They said Jf-17 was bad...
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8 ай бұрынThis guy in the video is a Growling Sidewinder Discord Mod, he said the other pilots in my videos were just bad, and that's how the Jf-17 was winning. He then offered a 1v1 dogfight and said "1 vs 1? You Jeff me Su-27" and then said "Ah wait, I'll get the Su-33 to make it more fair to you" ...... then he got 3-0'd:)
Moral of the story, just because your bad in a jet, doesn't mean that the jet itself is bad. Don't talk down on something you know nothing about.
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@Typewriter7 6 ай бұрын
The downward tilted gun makes a2a harder than it needs to be, but your skills more than make up for it
@gallagherthewolf5845 7 ай бұрын
the jf-17 aint bad its just very unpopular. one of the better jets to be honest
@jacobdoolan4978 7 ай бұрын
How so
@simpai941 7 ай бұрын
@@jacobdoolan4978 Best AG weapons in game imo. Cruise Missiles, laser guided rocket pods, massive glide bombs, the HARMS can automatically fire at targets that fire at you, and hands down the best TGP. I can see targets from 80 miles on a clear day with the TGP. Only problem is it doesn't have as many hardpoints as the NATO jets. 2 less than F-16
@GipsyDanger41 7 ай бұрын
@@simpai941 Dont forget the damn good SD 10s
@warthy4889 6 ай бұрын
its just a modern f18, wait till the eurofigjter comes out
@gallagherthewolf5845 6 ай бұрын
@@warthy4889 well you could say its just a ___ for almost every plane. each body has different flight characteristics, fuel usage, weapon dynamics, etc. like could say the Eurofighter is just a European f16 but we both know thats not quite true
@DCSWORLDPAK 7 ай бұрын
Good Stuff. Subscribed!
@Shahbaz-Ali2k2 5 ай бұрын
It's a best multi role aircraft in range of 25-30 Million dollars
@NobbsAndVagene 8 ай бұрын
Jeff.
@ArifKhan-hw2wi 7 ай бұрын
Jf is nice fighter jet
@pd28cat 6 ай бұрын
didn't think mike romeo was that kind of guy
@Mike_Romeo 5 ай бұрын
I just wasnt convinced since I never was able to be good in it. Seems like I'm just bad.
@brandonmoisesblandonflores1483 6 ай бұрын
The worst parts of the thing are the guns and the engine a little, but that's about it
@AnAmericanDodo 7 ай бұрын
That first one when it turned into a low level rate fight he could have had you if he kept it in a rate fight. Instead he tried changing tactics and he lost it because of it.
@Jf17Enjoyer 7 ай бұрын
jf17 out rates the su27, best hope is 1c
@_cyantist 7 ай бұрын
@@Jf17Enjoyeryou were at least 50-100 knots below your rate speeds, if he was up to speed he would absolutely out-rate you for a turn or two if it was looking like he was about to loose the rate, he should have waited untill you went for guns to reverse, no point in reversing in-front of your nose
@Jf17Enjoyer 7 ай бұрын
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@_cyantist 7 ай бұрын
@@Jf17Enjoyer 1:35 you could see he started to rise up your canopy, that means he was turning faster than you i think
@_cyantist 7 ай бұрын
@@Jf17Enjoyeri think his main issue (and the one you keep exploiting) is that he want to go vertical, its natural when you’re devensive and low to the ground, you need to get out of plane so you pull up into the vertical, problem is that causes you to loose allll your speed, it makes you an easy target like in round 3 with the mig 29. it was over so quickly 😂
@iasha740 5 ай бұрын
Good video and great skills, but he wasn't very smart either, the Jeff turns the shit out of the su27 in a turn rate fight. He should have opted much more for the one circle.
@Mike_Romeo 5 ай бұрын
I tried but I failed :(
@iasha740 5 ай бұрын
Forcing rolling scissors usually works, but you have to get the vectors right and not be afraid to pull hard@@Mike_Romeo
@Jf17Enjoyer 2 ай бұрын
id love to try it out :)
@munnumkhalid 7 ай бұрын
no offence to your skills man they are great, but your opponent had loud mouth and no skills to back them, need more videos on jeff
@Jf17Enjoyer 7 ай бұрын
preciate it
@Mike_Romeo 5 ай бұрын
Me, who fought him in the video, can only agree with you and admit that I greatly underestimated the JF-17 and had a big mouth
@jacobdoolan4978 7 ай бұрын
So if you had to sell me the Jett, what would be your main points? As far as I know it has slightly better fox 3 advantage and every other disadvantage in the book
@alirizvy8229 7 ай бұрын
i dunno man, I found it excellent at both one circle and two circle fighting. Loses out in the one circle to the mirage because of the delta wing advantage but it does really well in two circle. If you play it well with the limiter off, you can do some nasty things while barely not ripping the wings out. It does have a slight thrust lag but overall it thrust to weight is really good. Overall armaments are top tier too and id call it a proper 4th gen multi purpose aircraft.
@Galf506 7 ай бұрын
it's a simulator, it's not about being the best at anything. Even the worst jet would be fun to fly due to its quirks. What let me down of the Jeff is the unbearable cockpit voice and the radio positioning making it really hard to use
@soysauce6977 6 ай бұрын
@@Galf506 you can change the voice if you go in special settings and then jf17
@theleftfootedsultan 6 ай бұрын
It’s a cool plane that is at worst decent and isn’t just F-Teen number ten thousand. You’re disadvantaged enough to feel great about wins, but not so much that you get massacred five times for every victory. Also the ground pounding is absolutely amazing for a plane with so little payload. AKGs are arguably the best overall A2G weapon in the game, 802s are a solid anti-ship, the TGP is great, and it’s the only supersonic aircraft to get an APKWS equivalent.
@jacobdoolan4978 2 ай бұрын
Thank y’all for the replies, coming back to this video I may have sounded like a bit of a ass😂. I’ll def have to trial it soon and see what it’s all about🤝
@notsurejr4957 8 ай бұрын
what switch are you flipping
@Jf17Enjoyer 8 ай бұрын
flaps
@Jf17Enjoyer 8 ай бұрын
wait did u mean the red switch?
@notsurejr4957 7 ай бұрын
@@Jf17Enjoyeryeah are you flipping Dir link and EFCS switches
@Jf17Enjoyer 7 ай бұрын
oh i flipped dir link so i could get out of that high aoa thing jeff does@@notsurejr4957
@SyedWinder91 5 ай бұрын
The reason it gets so much hate is simply because of European/American superiority complex. They simply can't accept that Pakistan has made an exceptional fighter, even in a game. Wait till block 4 comes with the upgraded WS19 engine, better AESA and more advanced targeting systems and even hypersonic missles. Coming in the next year. PAC is growing fast.
@RW-zn8vy 5 ай бұрын
It doesn’t get hate it just gets looked down on because it has zero connection to anyone. Nobody says oh wow look it’s a jf17 so scary 😂 it’s not a bad fighter no but it’s definitely not on the same level are the nato aircraft or Russian.
@SyedWinder91 5 ай бұрын
@@RW-zn8vy yeah that's exactly the type of thinking I'm talking about. White people superiority complex. Why does it need a connection to anyone? It's a good fighter in its own right, you simply don't know the professionalism and skill of Pakistani engineers. What they did with the limited budget is commendable.
@ShadesAwayYT 3 ай бұрын
Absolute truth.
@TheOfficial007 11 күн бұрын
Well it unfortunately is a niche plane for the market that is already dominated by F-16. Remember they wanted a ground attack optimized F-16 like airframe. The F-16 already was designed for that mission and has a vast service record across the world and many wars. It's hard to trust something that is a joint program between China and Pakistan when not even China uses it let alone exports any of their current planes like the bigger players can.
@DKC-IND 5 ай бұрын
😂AI never defend truly, play with multi players.
@Mike_Romeo 5 ай бұрын
He fought me, a real player. Guess that means I'm just bad :(
@jacobdoolan4978 2 ай бұрын
@@Mike_Romeono sweat man, sometimes we just gotta learn a lesson or 2😂. In all actuality there is a massive skill ceiling in dogfighting and your not that bad bro🤝
@rawdyrider 6 ай бұрын
Now Block3.Much advanced