They Say It's Just A Big Garden Tractor? JD X700 vs 1025r

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Күн бұрын

The John Deere x758 vs the John Deere 1025r. Are subcompact tractors just big garden tractors? Let's take a closer look at comparing the John Deere x758 garden tractor versus the John Deere 1025r subcompact tractor. I'm led to believe the subcompact is far more capable than the x7 Series, but I'll let you decide for yourself.
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@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
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@groundworxlawncare6803
@groundworxlawncare6803 5 жыл бұрын
I weighed the options between the two and I went with the x758 with a hard side cab because it was more compact and capable for mowing and snow blowing which is what I primarily do. If I was doing anything else it would be a 1025r for sure
@davidr3246
@davidr3246 5 жыл бұрын
Great info, as always. Love the shout out to TTWT channel - that’s what got me hooked on subcompacts in general a few years ago and the 1025R in particular. I also noticed Tony’s Tractor Adventure auto-populated in your KZfaq search. Another of my favorites.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Hi David, thanks so much! TTWT is "must see" for any of us tractor nuts :)
@waltermattson5566
@waltermattson5566 5 жыл бұрын
Very good job on the video. The numbers and Tim’s videos speak for themselves.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Walter!
@Kcducttaper1
@Kcducttaper1 5 жыл бұрын
I'm casually looking to upgrade my John Deere 140 to a modern equivalent and dang near fell out of my seat when I saw the price tag on the x7 series!!! I simply don't understand why that costs more than a 1025r when the 1025r is a significantly better machine. I'd be interested in the x7 series if it were closer to the $8,000 neighborhood.
@ritterjon
@ritterjon 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of great information here! Excellent comparison video. I think there’s a lot of people who don’t understand the huge differences between a garden and a sub-compact tractor. Tim has a fantastic channel. Keep on tractoring and God bless
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Ritter :) Hope spring time comes soon to MN!
@nickr8829
@nickr8829 5 жыл бұрын
I'm happy you posted this, and it's kind of funny I was just debating with someone yesterday who was trying to tell me their X758 was the same exact thing as my 1025R and could do everything the 1025R could do - same size, same engine, same power. I pointed out they weren't even close and was trying to find a direct comparison video.. well now I have one!
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Well that made my day, haha! Awesome. There is an appreciable difference in my opinion.
@CodySkidmorenh
@CodySkidmorenh 5 жыл бұрын
I was the guy who wrote you last week -ish asking about the X758. I get what you said about the value/price point difference between a 1025R & X758. At the same time, I have space restrictions that limits the size of tractor and storage capacity. I have two acres. Only 1/2 acres is mow-able and a pretty large driveway. I lived on this property for almost ten years. In that time I needed a bucket only once. I rented a Bobcat for $250 for three days and got the job done. Have not needed a backhoe yet. If I need one to remove stumps or something, I will just rent it like I did with the Bobcat. I will rarely, if ever use a bucket, backhoe, etc. Storing the tractor outside in 24 inches of snow in the winter + accessories is not for me. I spend a lot on a JD no matter the model and I want all of it garaged to protect it. With all these considerations, the X758 is a better fit.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, it's the right tractor for a select few. You seem to fit that category. Thanks for watching!
@delldavis6222
@delldavis6222 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a big JD garden tractor fan [ I have 4 of them] , but they really don't compare to the sub compact. They are head and shoulders above the Big Box JD lawnmowers. I will say if you don't have room for a sub compact, then maybe the X would work for you , if you can choke down the price!
@lilbigrigw9904
@lilbigrigw9904 10 ай бұрын
Maybe look into real tractors such as the sub compact or bigger…you’ll get more women
@Tom-ej8bb
@Tom-ej8bb 5 жыл бұрын
Your info and energy is amazing! Looking to be able to get a sub compact one day and your information is a great help!! Thanks!
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I'm glad you find it helpful! Thanks so much Tom!
@danpanderson
@danpanderson 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm actually giving these two consideration. This was very useful!
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@Formulabruce
@Formulabruce 5 жыл бұрын
I traded my X758 ( after I put a loader on it, and then stopped at the 3PH) for the cost reason of the 3 ph. Bought a 1026R at that time. The only think I disliked was the loader wouldn't dump over a 6 ft fence. Great Video Courtney!
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks FF!
@robbruggeman6931
@robbruggeman6931 4 жыл бұрын
I recently priced a 1025r with a 60d mower deck and x758 60c mower deck Here is a few things I found Even though both had a 60" mower deck, on the 1025r, the 60d mower deck is a must heavier duty deck because it is a 7 iron deck. I already have a 52" rototiller, on the x758, a category 1 and 540rpm pto is extra By the time we priced the rear pto and 3 point to the x758 lawn tractor, the price was nearly identical to the 1025r It became a no brainer, get the 1025r
@mikeschlup5279
@mikeschlup5279 Жыл бұрын
How does it mow?
@daveallen4194
@daveallen4194 5 жыл бұрын
Good vid... however I would add (as a commercial lawn maintenance contractor) that heavier is not always better when it comes to mowing grass in semi-soft conditions for selective customers. I run a X758 all wheel drive for very hilly properties, and a couple of Ferris zero turns for the rest. That extra 400 lbs. of the sub-compact John Deere is a lot of extra weight in soft conditions.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
There are exceptions to every rule. However, there's gotta be a mathematical equation to determine the additional PSI right? Probably isn't all that much extra in reality. But, I'm also far from a mathematician! Just ask my kids ;) !!!! Just think of the extra versatility in your business that a 1 Series tractor could provide! Well, now I'm just being a salesman, haha! I digress :)
@stephenrhodesianridgeback7418
@stephenrhodesianridgeback7418 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video . If you have large anchorage . Try too buy both in my opinion . We had a 2720 Deere with loader and drive over deck . Excellent machine but became a pain taking deck off deck all the time or tractor tied up mowing when I had stuff too do . Sold 2720 top dollar and bought 40 horse tractor workhorse . Bought a x series garden tractor for mowing only . It worked out better for mowing . Faster and better for around ponds and house and trees etc . Wife’s happy and I happy now . If you have the money and place too put them with large property I recommend this . Best of both worlds . Roll bars are a pain too around trees 👎.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the AutoConnect decks on the 1 Series are a serious game changer compared to the basic drive over on the older 2 Series and all other older models. If you have money and space, it can be hard to beat separate dedicated machines. Not something most have the luxury to afford.
@jggassert
@jggassert 5 жыл бұрын
Almost bought a x758, then realized I would want/need a loader...went with the 1025r instead. After a year and 50 hours, traded in for a TLB model. You never know what the future holds and the ability to do so much more is worth the additional cost.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, excellent example. Thanks for watching Jeremy!
@stevengardepe6037
@stevengardepe6037 5 жыл бұрын
Wish you were around when I was buying my first jd lawn mower I had to do all my own research and still ended up selling it and getting a 2032r later down the road.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry Steven! Though I hope you're enjoying your 2023r!
@DavidKallander
@DavidKallander 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching tons of videos and still having a heck of a time deciding between these two. I currently have a Kubota ZD1011 commercial zero turn mower with a 54” deck that I don’t like and am going to sell. I have 12 acres, 5 of which are field/pasture, and around 4 acres of grass. Mostly flat- some hills but nothing too crazy. The ground is pretty uneven and I have to run the zero turn at around half speed so I’m not rattling my brains. I have a Bobcat 5-ton excavator now and a JD 4066R coming in October (massive delay, obviously), so I don’t really need the optional capabilities. Definitely not the loader or the back hoe. There’s a pond to mow around, the house, and the back patio, but the zero turn doesn’t save that much time. One of the sections of grass has quite a bit of clay and can be a little soupy in the spring- thus the 4x4. I’m looking for comfort, speed, and the ability to haul a 50CF lawn trailer/leaf vacuum with an onboard impeller/vacuum. Which one do I get?!? The 1025R or the X758?!
@DougAlesUSA
@DougAlesUSA 10 ай бұрын
Riding lawnmower, garden tractor, and sub-compact utility tractors are just words. I have needs to manage and care for my property. I used my applications to find the correct tool for my needs. In my case, that process resulted in me purchasing a John Deere model 1025R, thats a SCUT, plus seven attachments, and a variety of accessories. Call it whatever you want, but its the correct tool for me.
@gardentractors1751
@gardentractors1751 2 жыл бұрын
IMO the 1 series is essentially an evolution of the classic super garden tractors (John Deere 300/400 series, Cub Cadet Super GT’s, Simplicity Powermax, Allis Chalmers 720) which had pretty much every feature of the current 1 series and a few extras like rear SCV’s and turning brakes. You don’t get any of that stuff with a current X7 and you can’t get a OEM loader either which IMO cripples it.
@belindakt
@belindakt 5 жыл бұрын
As usual, i learned more stuff. I believe you Can be classified as an expert in your field! Thanks for the info....
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, I don't know about that. The info is out there already. I'm just regurgitating it in a different format :) However, thank you very much for the compliment!
@Korahandherdad
@Korahandherdad 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched this video... Will say that the new x7 is far size for size less stout than the 1 series.... However... The older 400 series 420/430 and 425,445,455, At this time ... Yanmar was starting to show up big time on the lawn and garden side.... by supplying engine and transxles they Can handle a loader and backhoe( older 400 series with an auxiliary pump 4x5 on board hydraulic) In Europe The 455 took the place of the underpowered 655. The older 4x5s were scaled down versions of the x55 series minus 4wd Yanmar Tuff Torq Transaxle cases made from same alloy and Yanmar engine. The same K90 series Transaxle is still used in the x7 and was used in Yanmars own sub compact the SC2400. There is literature on internet to back this up. Also the psi can be increased to allow loader closer to lifting 500/600 lbs. I think that the sub compacts are nice but the older Heavy Duty Garden Tractors are not too far off ... Aside from 4wd.
@dannyallen9804
@dannyallen9804 3 жыл бұрын
Unable to make my mind up so I ordered both! OCD sucks
@nbookie
@nbookie 26 күн бұрын
When did JD stop the 2 speed trans for the garden tractors? JD430?
@petermarte70
@petermarte70 5 жыл бұрын
Good video but really unnecessary IMO. The Signature series (X700s) and the 1 series are very different.. While the X700 series is more than a capable Tractor, John Deere has put into a segment that it only does a certain amount of things. The older X700 series were able to have a front loader on them due to a cross bar that was installed. (X748 ultimate) This made this tractor very very useful and I would guess kept lots of JD buyers from stepping up to a 1 series. While there are still front bucket solutions for the new X700 series from outside venders, it's not the same as the JD attachment made for the older models. The new X700 series is pretty similar in size to the Kubota BX series which has front loader and back hoe, but JD has decided to not equip the X700 series anymore like the 1 series to better separate the two models I suspect. While they are both very nice machines, they are very different machines in capabilities now. Not to say the X700 series couldn't handle some if not all of what the 1 series does, I'm sure the 1 series would have an easier time of accomplishing jobs due to the size and power. I actually know of a few people who bought Kubota over JD because the 1 series was too big for them and they wanted a smaller machine (like the X700 series) with the front bucket and back hoe options like on the BX series. Me myself I am a X739 owner and I think these machines are a beast for what they can do. They are way above the X300's and X500's. The 1 series would of been to big for me as well. Thanks for the videos. Appreciate the time and effort you put into them.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pete. Good stuff. Yes, the video should be unnecessary, but it's a misconception I still hear on almost a daily basis. Just doing my part to quell the myth :)
@fljetgator1833
@fljetgator1833 5 жыл бұрын
Very necessary IMO . This is a GREAT video for the potential customer of ANY seller. AND a great video for the SELLER to a potential customer as well as it saves alot of time. And for BOTH parties... Time is MONEY! 🤑 That's jus' good BINNESS! 😎🚬
@darthvader4hire
@darthvader4hire 5 жыл бұрын
when i bought my 1025R in 2016 it was less expensive than the X was for the bare bones model. i went into the dealer planning to get an X and left with an R. reason....it was less money when all was said and done.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
It's also more tractor.
@lawnfascist4890
@lawnfascist4890 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe the abilities of a true garden tractor are just being underestimated. The X758 is a big garden tractor and that's okay.
@shawnboss5542
@shawnboss5542 5 жыл бұрын
I looked at both models back when I bought my 1026r , for the price difference it’s a no brainer you get a heavier , more option tractor with the 1 series . It was definitely the right tractor for me !
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Yes sir, thanks for watching!
@stuglenn1112
@stuglenn1112 5 жыл бұрын
You add on 3 point hitch and PTO to the X-758 it is more expensive out the door new than a 1025R, which is absurd. The ONLY reason I can think of to get the x-758 over the 1025 is if you have a lot of work driving under trees, the 1025 even with the rops folded down you might have some clearance issues.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm sure there's some very small percentage of folks that are best served by the x758. It isn't many though.
@obiclankenobi
@obiclankenobi 5 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 1 series and the MSRP doesnt include the mower deck.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Good to know. So, about a $2,500ish difference in base cost if the x758 includes a 54" non-AutoConnect drive over deck.
@obiclankenobi
@obiclankenobi 5 жыл бұрын
2018 1025r loader and 54 inch auto connect deck for about 18k
@obiclankenobi
@obiclankenobi 5 жыл бұрын
President day sale
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Okay, so ended up right in that ball park of where I mentioned at 18-18.5k. Awesome, thanks for sharing. It's great to have real world data points!
@mikebreazeale2563
@mikebreazeale2563 5 жыл бұрын
Does the 1025 come with a gas engine? I am actually going tomorrow to get a X738 and if the 1025 comes with a gas engine I would think about it. Thanks for sharing...
@nickr8829
@nickr8829 5 жыл бұрын
No, it's diesel. I have an acre and went from a tank of gas a mow with my X730 to about a gallon of diesel. The savings add up quick.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
I just replied to someone else, so copying and pasting here as it applies to you as well. "Depending on how heavily you use your machine, you may be surprised how much the price gap can shrink between a gas guzzling Kawasaki vs a diesel. I estimate about 3 times as fuel efficient."
@ottohonkala6861
@ottohonkala6861 4 жыл бұрын
Lawn mower with a front loader, that can lift an empty bucket....
@Gixzer04
@Gixzer04 5 жыл бұрын
N front guard.
@Gixzer04
@Gixzer04 5 жыл бұрын
Rops, n wheels are the difference in weight. Rops on 748 would bump it to 1250.
@markstengel7680
@markstengel7680 5 жыл бұрын
Model differences explained without biases. Your correct, geographic area and intended use are major factors in choosing what model will do the job best. Nice large lawn with vegetable garden will do fine with a X758, add some horses with added tasks like feeding the 1025 series would be the suitable tractor. One item for me the back tires on the 10 series look to small in diameter for the size of it's frame. It dose for me. Enjoyed Comparison JD X758 & 10 Series Presentation👍
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark! I would like to see slightly larger tires on the 1 Series. Maybe someday!
@jamesbainton
@jamesbainton 5 жыл бұрын
Check out the 2025R - same engine as the 1025R, but slightly bigger dimensions, and much larger rear tires.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
The new 2025r? That one is a real tough sell for me. I think about $2,500ish additional cost for larger tires, 350 lbs of weight, and little else. Oh, and you even get stuck with the lower capacity 1 Series loader! Someone better explain that one to me! The 2025r was definitely due for an upgrade, but I can't figure out the logic behind the finished product.
@bbsi9574
@bbsi9574 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoodWorksTractors Interesting perspective. I know TTWT wasn't sold on it until he used it for the move. Well, he seemed to think the minor differences in dimension and larger tires made it much more stable. Point taken about the loader though...
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, no doubt that larger rear tires and added weight will aid in stability. My point is that's about all you get for an additional $2,500. I feel like JD missed the mark with that redesign. Maybe I'll change my view over time, but I have had a 2018 2025r in inventory and had a chance to operate as well.
@whatchath385
@whatchath385 5 жыл бұрын
I have a 1025r and i think its awesome. However if you had an "old school" garden tractor such as the jd 400 or 430, they would be more comparable to a subcompact tractor nowadays. Of course you're talking about 70s and 80s tech.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Those older machines were built like tanks!
@Scott-ty8kj
@Scott-ty8kj 5 жыл бұрын
I have a low hour 420 with the 23hp Vanguard engine and it's a beast. I have an aftermarket loader on it and it comes in handy on my property. Someday hope to graduate up to a 1 series for more versatility.
@whatchath385
@whatchath385 5 жыл бұрын
@@Scott-ty8kj The 420s are nice. However if or when you upgrade to a 1 series, you will definitely appreciate the 4wd and the 3 pt hitch.
@Scott-ty8kj
@Scott-ty8kj 5 жыл бұрын
@@whatchath385 I 100'/. agree....many times I've had a lot of rear wheel spin with a full bucket and wished I had 4wd.👍
@roccoseals7753
@roccoseals7753 4 жыл бұрын
Still looks like a beefier GT to me
@BA_X728
@BA_X728 5 жыл бұрын
Not everybody needs a backhoe . Or has the room to store extra attachments. I have a x 728 ultimate jd. and it is sometimes more tractor then what I need.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Correct. Starting MSRP of the currently produced x738 is a little over $2,000 cheaper than the x758 in my video. Depending on how heavily you use your machine, you may be surprised how much the price gap can shrink between a gas guzzling Kawasaki vs a diesel. I estimate about 3 times as fuel efficient.
@jonbrown9490
@jonbrown9490 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds to me like the 1025r isn't an over grown lawnmower....the x758 is an extremely underbuilt sub sub-compact tractor.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 4 жыл бұрын
Might be on to something there
@TomFollis
@TomFollis 5 жыл бұрын
I say...get both!
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
You are so good at spending other people's money!!! :) :) :)
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
How's that new x7 treating you Tom? Or is it strictly for mowing? I can't remember?
@TomFollis
@TomFollis 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoodWorksTractors I bought a snowblower for it too, but haven't had the opportunity to use that. It's mainly going to be a mowing tractor. I've been using the HLA pusher this winter on the 1025R and I love that!
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
That's what I like to hear!
@jamesbreen7394
@jamesbreen7394 5 жыл бұрын
Why would you buy an x758 when all you can really do with it is mow, when you could buy a far more capable zero turn for less? Ex JD Z915E would run circles around the x758 and it’s almost half the price.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think they're very popular except with those that aren't aware of the other options. However, it fits the bill for a select few.
@jamesbreen7394
@jamesbreen7394 5 жыл бұрын
Good Works Tractors copy that. Thanks. I need to buy something before Spring gets here and debating a zero turn plus a tractor vs a tractor with a mower deck. Thinking 2025R would give me a good balance of everything as I like the added ground clearance and lift capacity/height over a 1025R.
@harleyheil
@harleyheil 5 жыл бұрын
James Breen IMO the X7 series is a lot more versatile than a zero turn. As the 1 series is more versatile than the X7.
@machone7580
@machone7580 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 X7's. They will beat the 1025R hands down every time if all your're doing mowing. If you're doing anything else, 1025R
@jagx234
@jagx234 5 жыл бұрын
I got a bunch of silence, which made me think the volume was low, so I turned up my headphones. Ouch
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
At what point in the video? Maybe I can edit it? Sorry!
@jagx234
@jagx234 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoodWorksTractors 0:00 - 0:23 and :39 - 1:06. Basically the two sections where you're speaking outside the shop.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Weird. I do notice a slight difference, but nothing significant. Anyone else having issues? I just got a new mic for recording outdoors. I will have to adjust the gain a little bit for future videos.
@dblehar
@dblehar 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoodWorksTractors yeah, I had the same volume difference. great video though!
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
Dang. Sorry guys. It doesn't show up on my end. I'll try to make some tweaks in the next video that I use that new microphone and see if it helps.
@ckane510
@ckane510 2 жыл бұрын
Center of gravity is higher on 1025R. If your mowing hills it can be a huge factor. Something to think about.
@lilbigrigw9904
@lilbigrigw9904 10 ай бұрын
I can’t stand garden and lawn tractors. I call them booty tractors. Get a real tractor (sub compact and up)
@markschmaus5580
@markschmaus5580 5 жыл бұрын
FIRST!! AGAIN
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
At this point, I expect nothing less! Haha!!!
@markschmaus5580
@markschmaus5580 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoodWorksTractors EXACTLY LOL ! I Enjoyed that video. With all that info I should go towards the 1025R....plus i would need a cab. Not sure if I would need the loader. Definitely not the mower deck.
@GoodWorksTractors
@GoodWorksTractors 5 жыл бұрын
That's an odd duck Mark! I'm sure I'll have another 1025r cab unit before too long, but would most likely have to strip off the loader and mower as most come with those attachments.
@markschmaus5580
@markschmaus5580 5 жыл бұрын
@@GoodWorksTractors all I want it for is to plow snow. I live in a Manufactured Housing Community. I need to be able to plow snow for driveways only. Streets are done with a truck. 100+ driveways per snowstorm.
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