Aren't there after market transmission pumps/coolers that can be installed on the newer vehicles?

Andre Allen yes for many applications an auxiliary lube pump can be installed. Remco is a company that provides these for a lot of applications. Mike

You are confusing an auto not a manual. Auto transmissions need an external pump if you flat tow them.

@@xCRO3x pretty sure Mike is correct, in the newer vehicles the manual transmissions (some) have a pump on them. I suggest asking (Google) VW and find out.

Flat towing is damaging even if you put the auto transmission in neutral??

We'd love to take our Tesla with us on a flat trailer, but the problem becomes what to do with the trailer at the park. Also our Tesla has no hitch.

Great to hear, thanks Ron. Hope you are selling lots of Liberty Coaches!

Hey Don, can you explain a little more in depth for some of the short bus listeners like me? Thx

ak ,sure,there is a 12 volt wire in your 7 pin light plug on your coach. It’s hot when the key is on,you can take a 12 volt tester and find it,the cord that I use to run from my coach to my Jeep is 7 pin to 5 pin. Yellow is left green is right turn signals and brake lights. Brown is running lights and white is ground. The fifth wire is usually red and once it’s plugged into your coach it should be hot with the coach running. So if you run a wire, I us a number 10 wire,from the female side of the plugin to your battery it will keep it charged going down the road. Make sure you hook it up to the positive side of your battery ! It’s easy and it works great. I just plugged my 7 pin to 5 pin adapter in and took a pencil and paper and drew it outdated I checked each port on the 5 pin side so I new witch was witch. Hope that helps,if you have any questions let me know.

That would have been pretty impressive to see that at night, may have made a pretty good fireworks show. But if he was driving during the day then I’m surprised no one alerted him to the massive amounts of oil leaking/spraying or smoke coming from around the engine, etc. I know it’s not funny at all to the owner and I sure hope I never pull that stunt either but it does happen and it’s an expensive mistake!

What year beetle bug do you have? Love those things! My first car was a 63 bug. You can not beat that German engineering

That's what everybody always says... but I I've seen autos towed for many many miles without damage, start the vehicle and let it idle in drive. Not the most fuel efficent answer but it keeps the transmission lubricated and doesn't require removal of the driveshaft or expensive unreliable dirveshaft couplers.

Many of the newer manuals have pumps that spray the oil now. Most of the ones for at least the past ten years no longer have a wet sump on a manual transmission and that’s why it’s so critical you really find out from a dealer or transmission shop if it’s ok to flat tow your SPECIFIC model or not. Years ago we could tow any manual by throwing her in neutral, those days are long gone tho now.

@@1982MCI thanks for the info, I have no idea why any auto engineer would choose to do such a dumb thing, what makes them think that it would be an improvement? Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

@@1982MCI Except for the Really Old 'Crash Box's' . The lower shaft would not turn in Neutral . Pre synchromesh !

A bunch of these newer cars no longer have wet sumos on the manual transmissions. They are spray lubricated and you’ll burn one up if that pump isn’t running but you can install an auxiliary pump that will allow for it to be flat towed safely but you’ve gotta find out what situation your in with your specific vehicle. It’s not like it was 30 years ago when we could tow any manual by putting in neutral and heading down the trail

I flat tow a GMC Canyon automatic 4x4... Before I bought it new I did a lot of research to ensure the vehicle was certified by the manufacturer that it was towable and that it's curb weight was within the towing capacity of my coach... But I think you make a good point that some manufacturers may not want to certify due to engineering or liability issues... I think the author is a pretty smart guy but he made it sound like the whole thing was some kind of experiment... Kind of crazy in my book!...

Ed The question I’m wondering about right now is when he said he had a lot of folks telling him that it was not safe to flat tow this car, it seems to me that at that point it should have flipped a switch in my head that says , hey silly, it’s time we really find a pro that can let my silly brain know whether it’s safe to do or not. If a bunch of folks already said it’s not then odds generally are not that good in my favor to just do the opposite, especially when there’s that much money on the line. A friend of mine put her car in the shop today to have similar work done to it. Same car but a 2015 or 16 I think but it’s the same VW. They just bought it 2 months ago and the original owners traded it in and they found out after the first month that they used to pull it behind their RV as well and did the same thing but they went ahead and traded it off before the damage was noticeable enough that she would notice it and then it went down hill in a matter of days and now they are having trouble getting the warranty company to cover the cost. Don’t know all specifics yet but they are estimating $6k and the dealership was saying it’s gonna be a bastard of a job to fix. Hopefully he can get it figured out before he has to hit the road again cause I sure wouldn’t flat tow that thing another mile down the road. It’s a toss up right now on if you did damage, how much damage was done, and when is that damage gonna start rearing it’s ugly head! These new cars have so many coolers, pumps, fans, electronics on them and if just one of those things wasn’t doing what it was sposed to do because the engine wasn’t running and the internals got hot cause the pump was delivering oil to the right shaft and bearings then it’s game over! Something is gonna wear. That’s why I love my older Jeep CJ-7 for stuff like this. I don’t have all that electronic stuff but sometimes it’s nice to have A/C and stuff for when your in Az. I hope our young lad makes out ok. Maybe he had a guardian angel looking out for him this time and he won’t suffer damage just a bit of shame and I think we’ve all been down that road before!!

i rlat tow my wrangler

Did you watch the whole video?

RVing with Andrew Steele it sure doesn’t seem like she did Andrew or she would have seen that you corrected that and what you did to correct it. It’s ok brother, just go on and it will be ok , I promise you!! It takes all kinds of us out here to make this country interesting but some days you’ve gotta wonder just why in the hell someone wants this country this damn interesting tho, lol 😆

Great call James! Lights dont light without electricity.

Self-insuring is the way to go!

RVing with Andrew Steele could you give us a bit more in depth reasoning on the decision on why self insuring being the way to go Andrew? I’d love to get your perspective on that a bit more, thanks man!! Stay safe out there buddy!!

Short answer, it will burn up the transmission. The transmission output shaft is still turning but the input shaft is not because the engine is off and not turning it.

Any towed vehicle over 3k is suppose to have a braking system.

If that's the case i'd trailer it. Then you can tow whatever you want without worry of needing to have a system installed.

Someone is trying to take you. The brackets for the tow bar should take you an hour and a half, quicker if you know how to wrench. There isn’t much that needs installed with a supplemental brake. The only thing that needs fastened anywhere is the breakaway cable. Use a removable light kit. There is nothing here that should come close to 4k.

Those "tow points" he used is actually a Base Plate from BlueOx made specifically for the car and attach directly to the sub-frame. He's not using the tow-loops.

I wanted to know that as well... it looked very simple to hook up to tow bar.. I've got a vw jetta 2000 manuel that I want to tow...also I wanted to suggest putting a tpms on the vw and monitor from your pusher...it should take some of the worry away for you...your pusher is so nice it might be a mile or so before you notice a blow out

I knew that comment was going to come from you. You seem to be very critical of me at times. I will send you a photo of the air Force one braking system but want to keep my KZfaq videos as simple as possible. people get lost with all of the technical information and I don't want to be an educator.

@@RVingwithAndrewSteele I'm not being critical. I asked as I watched the video and didn't see anything about a braking system. I like the Air Force One system.

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RVing with Andrew Steele hey buddy but I hate to remind you about this in public but this is getting serious now!! Your security clearance does not allow you to release any of the photo’s for the braking system on Air Force One and it is not limited to the pictures but also includes any and all Technical Orders AF-1 and will include all schematics and specifications to include all superseded and revisions for the specific aircraft. All of your future electronic communications will now thru eternity be routed thru TicToc to determine if you are putting the safety of the President of the United States at risk by performing in the capacity of a domestic spy and can be punishable by one year confinement to the New York State Penitentiary Cell block A, Block 36 recently renamed the Jeffrey Epstein Villa due to unfortunate and tragic Murder of Mr. Epstein. Room and Board will be covered temporarily. This will be the last warning and notification you will receive concerning this National Security Threat. You can consult with Mr. Epstein about sho will pick you up and when should you feel the need to continue transferring classified Air Force One brake photos and details via any of your electronic Devices. .....26854-34075.......892-08531799, 245883257-68894.........79021578-458004.0

Don Pfeiffer 🤣😂😁. You should write novels. How shall Andrew converse with the murdered mr. Epstein ? 🤔 Btw thanks for all the explanations about new transmissions vs old style in all you comments, educating in understanding why the caution. Cheers 🍻

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there is always some risk with trailer towing for sway if you get going too fast, then there is the wear and tear on the tires if flat tow, etc. there are pros and cons to everything in life. you just need to weigh each situation and go with the one that you feel is best for you.

Ian Do you know if the mileage increases on a flat towed car ? It must, right ? Unless the car is a ‘throw-away’, that alone would be a deterrent for me. It would improperly devalue the car because it implies the engine and drivetrain has more wear than it actually does.

@@radradrad I dont think it increases on the newer cars as the mileage is racked electronically based on rpms etc. with the engine running (which is basically how taxi cab meters work) On the older vehicles the odometer was tied into a cable on the transmission.

I assume like many, the hassle of the trailer when you arrive and storing it is a burden. Many places just do not have a solution.

no

This was a few years ago but i believe it was blue ox

I believe most states require you to have tow brakes on any vehicle when flat towing.

You end the brakes added the same time you add the tow system. 49 states & Canada require them because they are necessary for safety.