no clue what this guy is talking about but the guy makes it sound so interesting and understandable that i stayed for the whole video
@HVACRVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks bud!
@ravenslight25493 жыл бұрын
Omg same!
@ricanderson57173 жыл бұрын
Is that an OSHA approved brick you're standing on? I prefer the OSHA approved 5 Gallon bucket step stool myself 😜
@ConstantlyDamaged3 жыл бұрын
My old man, being a bricklayer, always used at least two bricks stacked on one side and a bucket on the other, with a plank between them. Redundant safety-every time.
@watchvideos91043 жыл бұрын
I mean my OSHA approved 2x6 always helps
@fixitallpaul48473 жыл бұрын
I will never mud bucket step stool ever. I watched a guys foot go thru when the bottom cracked. The cuts(stitches) and scrapes on his leg showed me its way not worth using that convenient trick. Edit: Same goes for milk crates
@jacknasty69403 жыл бұрын
One time i stepped on bucket of liquified bromine and i went thru the lid and had a sock shaped skinless foot for about 2 weeks
@50_foot_punch993 жыл бұрын
Nothing beats the OSHA approved plastic chair
@vincentguttmann22313 жыл бұрын
Man, you really gotta appreciate Chris for sitting down after a workday, editing, commenting and uploading a new video.
@Bryan-Hensley3 жыл бұрын
It's a lot of work
@MeepChangeling3 жыл бұрын
Someone's gotta perpetuate knowledge. If no one teaches, civilization falls. If no one learns, civilization falls.
@vincentguttmann22313 жыл бұрын
@@MeepChangeling I mean, he teaches his employer, but he doesn't *have* to do this for us. But I suppose it helps if someone wants to learn about that, or maybe it is the thing getting someone into HVAC, which is also really cool
@Shortcircuit2203 жыл бұрын
A great tip given to me by a field engineer: Always know what value you are expecting before you put your multimeter on the terminals.
@lwilton3 жыл бұрын
Especially in the old days when they would turn to smoke if you had the range switch set wrong. :-)
@prdoohan3 жыл бұрын
@@lwilton I may or may not have ordered a big box of multi-size fuses after forgetting to switch from V to A while experimenting with electroplating during lockdown...
@JasperJanssen3 жыл бұрын
@@prdoohan uhm. Multimeters need special fuses if you want to be able to survive the next time it trips.
@tmst21993 жыл бұрын
Everyone likes to pass on a great tip without telling you WHY. It's a rampant insanity.
@Shortcircuit2203 жыл бұрын
@@tmst2199 if you don't know what value you expect to see how do you know if it's wrong?
@silasmarner75863 жыл бұрын
That thing looks like it hasn't been cleaned since the time of the Pharaohs!
@whitcwa3 жыл бұрын
Since Ramses the zeroth
@dashcamandy22423 жыл бұрын
"32% humidity is HIGH." I wish... 83.5% yesterday, temps in the 80s. That split condenser really surprised me with how gunky it was in the inside! It's not what one would expect, because the outer half looked recently-cleaned. I bet somebody hit it with a quick rinse and pushed all that crap into the inside, and then left it to dry.
@shigekax3 жыл бұрын
I don't think humidity goes that low when the temperature is above freezing in my town
@rjwaters33 жыл бұрын
aye, same here, the lowest I remember ever seeing the humidity (and i check frequently, multiple times a day, even in winter) was 43%. also 90% is incredibly common, and the highest ive ever seen was 108% when the temperature dropped rapidly one day, and walking outside made you feel like you were drowning.
@tmst21993 жыл бұрын
The coil cleaner guy really screwed the pooch. Any professional would face civil liability for that kind of negligence.
@hvac01453 Жыл бұрын
@@rjwaters3 100% humidity is rain/fog
@rjwaters3 Жыл бұрын
@@hvac01453 In the vast majority of cases, when the air has particulates in it to make the water condense out of the air, yes, it is not a guarantee though, it is rare for the air to be clean enough for such a thing to occur.
@PapasDino3 жыл бұрын
Great mentoring technique, know it's hard to balance between filming and what you need to teach the newbie...you're the kind of tech I enjoy watching over their shoulder. Happy Fathers Day Chris!
@cadgrampadavidb98533 жыл бұрын
This video it seemed like you were training a new tech or perhaps an apprentice. It was absolutely AWESOME to hear you explain some of the stuff in simpler terms. I know most of your audience is HVAC techs, but some of us are just regular guys interested in learning. Your regular videos are great, but every once in a while a "training " video is very welcome! Thank you for all that you do. Your videos are always interesting and informative. As to humidity, we have plenty here in Georgia... Maybe I can box some up and send it your way! :-)
@majstealth3 жыл бұрын
i am just an it-guy. i do not even have an ac at home, still like what i see and hear here.
@SuperBrainAK3 жыл бұрын
@@majstealth haha me too, but today the AC at my office is down and I was able to at least let the guys know there is no control voltage going to the thermostat. 😁 Its probably a main breaker or blown LV Tx/fuse but as he says "dont just go flipping breakers" so I'll let the pro's handle that.
@c117ls73 жыл бұрын
Man that condenser was dirtier than my ex wife. Happy father's day guys!
@toddthegamer3 жыл бұрын
9:00 lol 30% humidity here on the east coast is a great day, in the summer it’s usually anywhere from 60% to 100%
@hulkingelf49573 жыл бұрын
ahh thank you youtube recomended ive never watched a video on the interworkings of an ac unit before but this was a very nicely done video
@joshcbr83 жыл бұрын
“Their schematics can be a bit confusing” Lennox; am I a joke to you?
@billymcguffin60383 жыл бұрын
Lennox: “and to make it interesting, we have flip flopped pressure controls on stage 1 and 2. Good luck”
@jesseh55543 жыл бұрын
For real. Lennox is terrible. Half the time I just trace by hand. Aaon is where it's at though.
@yzhang86293 жыл бұрын
Most likely only the service technicians will complain about bad schematics while trying to trouble shooting equipments, but service technicians have nothing to do with purchasing equipments, so the manufacture has no motivation to improve schematic design
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld3 жыл бұрын
goodman: a what now?
@w5cdt3 жыл бұрын
The EE draws a reasonable schematic and the draftsman gets ahold of it and makes it neatly fit his page size :-) at the expense of readability.
@kevinpoore56263 жыл бұрын
Well Happy Father's Day if you have the luxury of being one if not happy Sunday keep everybody cool man
@bolastube3 жыл бұрын
Even tho the subject is boring af its interesting to watch professional at work explaining everything.
@nathanharrison23 жыл бұрын
i agree. i watch a heavy tow operator and ive learnt a few things from that and i started guessing which way hes going to use from what ive seen previously
@PhillipFrischman-vo8gm26 күн бұрын
Wow you're making everybody look like kids man I swear to God no one has ever shown this crap good job Amen brother.
@godbluffvdgg3 жыл бұрын
So glad I'm a Remodeling contractor and sub out HVAC...My poor Brother in Law owns an HVAC co. He goes everywhere and works crazy hours in the WORST conditions...I'd rather be a plumber ( the second worst trade)! :)...You guys earn every CENT!
@moconnell6633 жыл бұрын
I've not done HVAC or plumbing professionally, but I've done my own work at home for years. There is far more chance of getting shit in your mouth as a plumber ;) I know which I would prefer to do.
@godbluffvdgg3 жыл бұрын
@@moconnell663 That's not where the shit goes; silly!
@moconnell6633 жыл бұрын
@@godbluffvdgg it sure isn't! But sometimes you find pressure where pressure isn't supposed to be! Turd-herding wouldn't be my profession of choice.
@godbluffvdgg3 жыл бұрын
@@moconnell663 Me either, I'm a carpenter by trade...They're both hard jobs....
@jonhu41273 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first time I've seen a tech perform the heimlich maneuver on an air conditioner. That thing was totally choked on that grime
@denninosyos3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I learnt a lot! But my inner engineer is screaming though. Dust and electronics usually don't combine well. Those connectors and exposed circuit boards are a prime example of a system designed to fail.
@joevinski13 жыл бұрын
Morning and happy Father’s Day Chris !!!
@aaronsmith54333 жыл бұрын
@tony king "Chris, gonna find Ray Charles!" Famous Flip Wilson routine about Christopher Columbus, check it out
@journeymanturdpolisher16923 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one working on Father's day. Happy Father's day to all the HVAC Dads making shit happen on the daily
@johnhanson47953 жыл бұрын
you guys would laugh at my 1977 central air unit i have maintained it since 77 it is 100 today and its cooling my 3500 square foot house just fine it struggles if you put thermometer below 77 though its had a run capicator replaced and fan motor other than that nothing.when i watch you guys work on these new ones they look so big and complicated.you guys understand electricity for sure!
@eliteman76853 жыл бұрын
Great video. I used to be in the overhead crane world and screamed for keeping certain parts on the service fleet. Saves so much time and headaches.
@mikepeter13233 жыл бұрын
It's not a problem to watch your videos from the beginning to the end as it's so satisfying to see a skillful technician in action. :)
@danyoung53463 жыл бұрын
32% humidity is "HIGH" OMG Chris you need to come back home to Missouri!!!!! See how you make it!!! LOL, Great video keep em coming!!
@dougmapper33063 жыл бұрын
*cries in Michigan* I can't have a cold beer without the condensation making a puddle on the desk!
@TheMaster51503 жыл бұрын
106°F all week in So.Cal except for Friday we had some offshore clouds come in making 100°F with 32% humidity, that was a nice day. On a roof in Arizona, and So. Cal the radiant heat is 5°-10° degrees hotter than the actual temp. Chris and guy's like myself deal with temps upwards of 114°-120°F +. My respect goes to the Las Vegas, and Phoenix guys🔥.
@jamminwrenches8603 жыл бұрын
From Springfield transplanted to Houston, it is not humid in Missouri. Going south from Dallas you can feel the air getting thicker and stinky lol.
@danyoung53463 жыл бұрын
@@jamminwrenches860 Been to the big D
@chuckferraris84892 жыл бұрын
@@TheMaster5150 What sucks when it's 115 plus for a solid week.. when it's over 15% humidity is like working in an oven.. Been in Vegas doing HVAC 20 years and it doesn't get any easier...
@joshuaobelenusable3 жыл бұрын
This video was narrated beautifully as a training video for your guys, explanations along the way of not only what you are doing, but also why. Nicely done Chris! On a side note, the X terminal for the compressor lockout board, is that terminal just for troubleshooting? Or are there systems out there that bring that terminal back to a thermostat or building control system for alarms or other purposes? (And finally, that was a nasty split)
@williampatriot56223 жыл бұрын
Love that you explained the sequence of operation and troubleshooting steps, very helpful! 👍
@jonarmedpiandsecurityoffic90513 жыл бұрын
I love that osha approved cinder block step stool your assistant is using 🤣🤣🤣
@victorczaika62423 жыл бұрын
Your videos on top of having a great mentor has helped me in my career tremendously. Thank you. Happy fathers day man
@johnhanson47953 жыл бұрын
when you guys are struggling in the heat fixing ac units im working in bodyshop with no air throwing chains on frame machine fixing truck frames and im the only paintless dent tech in shop so i have to do them to and paint and do big dent stuff but i respect you guys alot wish i woulda been hvac im qualified and trained in cars but not the new ones with the y refrigerant
@ares39143 жыл бұрын
That was a pro find splitting that condenser. I bet most techs wouldnt split that condenser and just washed the outside of the condenser coil. Great video. Try to burn yourself out in this heatwave
@ethankriegel46143 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the details my service manager and senior techs drill in to us. We always split condenser coils for cleaning because it gets matted between them. We have been earning new service contracts lately because of our thoroughness and detail when asked for second opinions on repair quotes.
@tmst21993 жыл бұрын
That's pathetically negligent. But it is what it is.
@fixitallpaul48473 жыл бұрын
Id like a video about being up on a hot roof in that kind of heat. What things do you do to help you be able to function? As a welder I often set up a patio umbrella to gain some shade.
@tmst21993 жыл бұрын
How about a dry-ice hat?
@davidfreeman23163 жыл бұрын
35 years in the trade and appreciate you teaching this old dog some new tricks.
@pepsi823 жыл бұрын
I’d rather have your 32 humidity than 82 atm.
@iowaphotos91073 жыл бұрын
Great troubleshooting technique. I miss doing HVAC until the weather sucks and that is most of the time on a roof in the midwest. I'll live vicariously through your videos.
@Insane2477143 жыл бұрын
i have no idea how i ran into this video. i have no idea what anything you say means but what i do know is, you know your craft, and that is very impressive. always cool to see a pro do this job and make it seem easy
@rustblade50213 жыл бұрын
also this reminded me, it would be cool to see an autopsy on a suction line filter dryer after a burnout to see how much shit it caught
@winstonpoplin3 жыл бұрын
He standin there casual like "yeah this one says 104 degrees." These dudes are probably so hot they don't even remember that they are hot. These are the real heroes of our time.
@justmakeingit3 жыл бұрын
Best video so far showing step by step what to do when. I first started learning hvac they did not show me nothing had to learn most on my own these video so me something new every time I watch I like listening and learning from you
@Mustang79953 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining the entire process on that first unit, and also thanks for explaining where to take temp readings on the suction and liquid lines. Your videos are 1st class.
@DIYDaveT3 жыл бұрын
I know very little about AC but the explanation was so clear and so methodical that I understood every word and I could easily see the debug sequence. People who know AC usually are not good teachers but this guy was a great teacher.
@douglasv53852 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate how you walk through the troubleshoot. I have no HVAC experience and watch these strictly for entertainment value. Great videos.
@GregoryGlaser3 жыл бұрын
I was today years old before I finally came to understand ECONOMIZERS! I'm now off to sign up for this stuff on Patreon. Bully Chris!
@HVACRVIDEOS3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much bud!!
@helohel59153 жыл бұрын
"It's not that hot outside, it's 100 degrees" as a European person, I got zero clue how hot or cold that is...
@Duffcow3 жыл бұрын
Its easy, 100 is hot and 0 is cold. 50-70 is usually comfortable for most people while working
@KevinJones-pj8kx3 жыл бұрын
We see a ton of cottonwood tree fiber in the air around here this year. Some years are worse than others. I had to remove what looked like a wool mat pad between the radiator sections in a truck a number of years ago. It looked like a rolling wave across the street as you drove that year.
@dacomy3 жыл бұрын
This was a really good troubleshooting breakdown from start to finish. I’ve been in the field for 10 years and I picked up some really useful information from this one video. Keep up the great content. Subscribed!
@applied.precision3 жыл бұрын
I learned more about HVAC in a few minutes than I would've thought possible. Great teacher.
@fabianhernandez31263 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would sit and watch someone find out what is wrong with multiple A/C. Thanks, I was interested the entire time and man you can explain what is going on so easily. 😲👏 Great video thank you.
@supamild8083 жыл бұрын
As usual, nice work Chris. Again, love the satisfying shots of cleaning the dirty coils. Happy Father’s Day brother
@gregdennis35233 жыл бұрын
Wish most companies would use teenagers as a laborer. We need to get the younger generation into the trades. The information you are showing us is great information!
@etherraichu3 жыл бұрын
32% humidity. Im in Kentucky. Its 5:30 AM. Humidty is 83%. I miss living in southern california, humidity is hell. Here's what high humidity does. we had a broken AC. During the day the temperature inside, according to the thermostat, got to 83 degrees. So after an entire night, know what the temperature inside was? 81 degrees.
@mvargass3 жыл бұрын
This video makes me want to work in the HVAC industry.
@CHOMAHOMA3 жыл бұрын
Man, 3 things. First one, thank you for your videos. Second, thank you for the emphasis on the "sequence of operation". If you could touch some of that more often, it would be greatly appreciated. Third, it is funny because you said that "the condenser doesn't look too bad", but I had a feeling before you opened it that it was, in fact, dirty as hell. Conclusion, I have learned a lot watching your videos. They have given me a lot of input for troubleshooting. Thank you.
@fabbsl17702 жыл бұрын
As an electrical engineer I feel very unconfortable with all this stuff hanging around in the dirt 😄
@markmcmahon27743 жыл бұрын
How this for a comment, if you were my boss or my senior tech when I entered the field, I would still be a field service technician. Keep up the great work and thank you for all you've taught me!
@seangriffon65023 жыл бұрын
I absolutely hate those double row condensers. The Lennox HS 25 condensing units are designed this way. So many are not aware of this, and they see the outside is clean, so they don't think its dirty. You have to remove the fan top, and get in between the 2 coils as well.
@winstonwright36133 жыл бұрын
Great video, and Happy Father's Day!! I worry about you sometimes, the way you'll cancel a family outing, or work til 2 am saturday night changing compressors. Point being .... it actually made me smile as I'm sitting here with my 3 kids to hear you say you weren't going to spend your weekend putting some kind of band aid on their AC just because they would like their bathroom cooler. You're entitled to some sanity, and I have to stop and tell myself that sometimes too. We all do. hope you enjoy your day. The sun will go down and it will come up again and whatever restaurant that is will have made more money than they did last Father's day and they'll live.
@mohammedaljammaz60173 жыл бұрын
This vid was in my recommedation, after watching this I can't stop watching the other videos, keep up the great work!
@brianmillion-osborne67473 жыл бұрын
I always thought those three dots on the compressor were a soft plug. But I was told that those dots of what it looks like solder was just where the windings are suspended from via a weld. Maybe I was right then?
@jaysonhines13 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. Awesome step by step diagnostics.
@jamestegarden2584 Жыл бұрын
Great ladder logic call out.
@FBHSswimmer20063 жыл бұрын
Chris: “We have high humidity right now and I bet it’s 32%, 35%.” FL: “That’s cute. Hold my beer.” Current humidity level outside is 90%+ dealing with outer rain bands of a Tropical Depression. I wish it we had a 35% humidity level.
@mathewrussell15333 жыл бұрын
Australia here, 80% humidity is a cool day
@lutboy29093 жыл бұрын
Ha, veracruz its arround 90+ humidity all the time
@petersmart19993 жыл бұрын
Burnt to open,see it all the time! Slow burns are the worst as far as contamination is concerned! I've done simple opens that weren't too bad and I've done some where I condemned to unit,due to the black sludge oozing out!
@laskahvac6663 жыл бұрын
AC #4 gas valve was shut off, don't know if you noted that.
@richardbartlett69323 жыл бұрын
one sensor read 39f one nothing, yet both read 10k ohms on the deck? First thing I would have done is swap them out to see if the misreadings follow . the new ones were 15k which isn't miles away (and depends if the van was as hot as outside) I think I would have let the old and new equalise temp on the deck and remeasured. I'm suspecting bad connections but you know these units better than me for sure. Great video as usual.
@gregomyeggo45293 жыл бұрын
Excellent knowledge transfer experience!!!! Broke it down, step by step in an easy to understand way! I'm sharing this one with our new techs.... Thanks Chris!!!!!
@zacke14343 жыл бұрын
Great video! Really enjoyed the different types of action shots you were able to get with the added assistant!
@evanw29803 жыл бұрын
On choked condensers. Onboard ships we blow with air first then wash because some of the finer particulates were turning into a hard cement-like-crete when wetted and then dried. Good for when you hae easy airline access. I don't work on the refrigerant cycle part of the plant yet but will eventually. I just hae to monitor and call the bossman if there's an issue and it's great seing the lengthy vids of your work, common issues and great oicing of the internal monologue (always find it makes a better presenter on these type of what-I-saw videos). Always good to see someone who cares about doing the job right. Have a like and a sub. Time to watch some more.
@dumbbellenjoyer3 жыл бұрын
Hope that HVAC guys support right to repair.
@cjshvacjourney4034 Жыл бұрын
Chris makes me proud to be a rooftop hvac technician! Looking forward to this spring and summer maintenance and service calls!
@prjndigo3 жыл бұрын
On split coil condensers I've had a fair amount of luck getting the sandwich crap out by simply deluge flushing from above and not pulling them apart much. On residential units people expect to last 20 years you don't want to do much flexing. Used a gallon pitcher that has that shield over-top the pour like a watering can, splooch muck gone.
@Tonyhvac Жыл бұрын
Good job sir,thank you for the class I appreciate it
@jayp39813 жыл бұрын
I just learned 3 things. #1 Economizer temp sensors #2 Split the coils (never took it seriously) #3 Voltage between x and c
@USA-GreedyMenOfNoIntegrity3 жыл бұрын
At the 11:30 second mark, you said we would have a “higher than normal TD”. I think you meant we would have a lower than normal TD, when the economizer damper is open. Keep up the good work and videos.
@jonsaircond85203 жыл бұрын
All refrigerant has skyrocketed. In my area 410A is up 200% in the last few weeks. Gonna be a interesting summer I suspect, hope I'm wrong though
@marcoalvarez12763 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. You are the man when it comes to diagnostics
@jasonlax41123 жыл бұрын
No idea how I got here...why I am watching.... but I watched it all.
@perrynorris59783 жыл бұрын
I found this video very informitive im in school now for HVAC so thank you
@reargiro51023 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that the outside unit can do free cooling , thanks for the introduction!!!
@ryanmurray30343 жыл бұрын
always learning from you, thanks for just being you
@007galaxie3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, such great information, thank you.
@rustblade50213 жыл бұрын
guys around here would just change the fuse, flip the breaker, and watch the fireworks 🎇 🔥
@xenolard3 жыл бұрын
Wow that inside coil. I've been watching for years and you've always said make sure you check but never seen one like that. Jeez
@adamruck3 жыл бұрын
You should be using insulated screw drivers. Don't risk shorting stuff out by accident when you don't need to.
@mrjimi13 жыл бұрын
What an odd coincidence with that temperature sensor. The bad reading was pretty close to actual temp in Celsius.
@rogerghiardi77233 жыл бұрын
Wow one of your best videos ever, Carrier troubleshooting 101 👍
@dragonrider42533 жыл бұрын
You think 32% is high? try living in Florida during summer. Temps don't get quite as high (80s 90s, sometimes we'll break 100, but it's rare), but the humidity at 60-80+% makes it BRUTAL. Also, are you training a new tech? It seems you were showing someone new to the trade how to do it.
@luckymlg3693 Жыл бұрын
im currently in trade tech to learn hvac but i would love to internship under him. he really knows what hes looking at.
@grandprix834bbl3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't know what to do with 32% humidity lol. I live in Kansas currently our humidity is around 70%
@MariosACandRefrigeration3 жыл бұрын
you could use 407c with new compressor it has poe oil,and you can use nu 22 or mo 99 on mineral oil have done in for years.need to carry more bottles like everyone else.
@Bryan-Hensley3 жыл бұрын
The humidity here is 82 percent. No it's not raining or cloudy. It's not too hot yet. I can stand hot temperature in low humidity. But 90 degrees at 82 percent humidity is horrible. I consider anything below 45 percent as low. I also want to add, all of our distributors are completely out of R22 except one. I'm not getting anymore. I'm experimenting with MO-99 and 407c
@sivalley3 жыл бұрын
Are you out here in Virginia too? 🤣
@Bryan-Hensley3 жыл бұрын
@@sivalley East Tennessee
@sivalley3 жыл бұрын
@@Bryan-Hensley Hello from Hampton Roads neighbor. Gotta love the swamplands turned metropolitan.
@jasonjohnsonHVAC3 жыл бұрын
Happy Father's day Chris. Hope you get to enjoy it
@grimki11er3 жыл бұрын
Me a half asleep metric user: 100 degrees!?!?! Jesus christ Me remembering they are using freedom degrees: oh wait 100 is not as much as i tought ouf!!
@JoeyLovesTrains Жыл бұрын
8:57 30% is high in socal??? Wow. I knew you guys got low humidity but I didn’t realize it was that low. In Massachusetts we’ve been getting around 50% to 60% humidity and that’s low for us! Weather has been amazing recently.
@petersmart19993 жыл бұрын
After watching this,I remember why I hated restaurant work,everything you work on is a toilet, it just amazes me that they really never put aside a chunk of change for maint or repairs.Of course most restaurant were C.O.D !
@bananafoneable3 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what you're saying; but I like it. --Every home owner / Building manager ever.
@MrAleksandar97823 жыл бұрын
this is the first time i watch your video ... I really like your approach! Big like!!! keep up the good work;)
@spencerryan26573 жыл бұрын
@ 19:31 - "Y is the question". Yes, yes it is.
@johnhanson47953 жыл бұрын
i dunno how you do it when multipiles go down that would be a mind game but you do it well
@Skjaeg693 жыл бұрын
r32 is the future, in the eu r22 hasnt been sold for years and the only way to get more for one old system is to recover it from another