Good to know!

Hype 2 with spinfit w1 too🎉🎉🎉

@@Daniel-lq5qq Gahh, can't get any spinfits in the UK without paying way too much :(

@@warmth_97 you get them cheap from China now for 8 Dollar instead 14 i have the dunu s and s Yesterday will Test them at evening for Hype 2 perhaps its even better

taking your word on this, just bought some purely from this comment 😂

Unfortunately, I don't have all of those IEMs so I won't be able to do a comparison. I can only review what gets sent over by those companies and not everything comes my way.

I have tried both today, the Cincotres is a bit more bassy and fun to listen to, but the treble is quite damp compared to the Hype 4 and the sound stage a bit less detailed. If I would chose between the two, I may consider the Cincotres if its for fun beats and electro, the Hype 4 if I was more into vocal and rock... but in the end I actually bought the Monarch Mk3 myself as I found the pricing to be worth it... if you try all 4 (I tried the Mk2 also), you will quickly realize the money is actually worth it because both the Cincotres and Hype 4 sound "dull" compared to the Mk2 and more notably Mk3. :) Also fun fact, Ziigaat and Thieaudio are brother companies with Ziigaat focusing on affordable mid range and Thieaudio more on higher end.

@@petralian Hmm very interesting I didn't t know that..My problem is that I have small and shallow difficult..ears.I would like very much to take a multi driver end game iem but I hesitate because of this reason thats why I may go for Mega5 est custom although I m also very curious about the new FIIO FA 19 it has amazing technicallities and amount of drivers.Only for the bass there are 3 or 4 balanced drivers !Thanks for the answer!

@@anatol1204 you are welcome :) I did not hear the FA 19 yet, but with it using 100% BA drivers instead of a mix of DD and BA and EST (which is like the new thing for a few years) I would recon the depth may be a bit less "full" compared to the MK3. Since hearing tribrid and hybrid I simply cannot go back to 100% BA drivers haha. A few more things for you to consider. 1. The FA 19 uses MMCX which is a big no no for me, I will never use MMCX because its a faulty, flimsy and outdated system invented for antennas... why use this on headphones is beyond me. 2. I am not sure the tone change switches on FA 19 may get issues later on but they look like a weak point for sweat and audio issues. I am not sold on that system yet :) 3. There are SO many reviews of the MMK 3 being a top product, I simply cannot find that many reviews on the FA 19, but it looks nice. 4. Are you sure the FA 19 will fit your ears? It looks bigger than the MK3 to me haha

Yup! I knew I must have missed something while putting all of this together.

@@Fc-Construct And the Hype 10 is $900. Just FYI for this review and your written one :-)

@@misterfinerthings Wow you are absolutely right. I can't believe I missed this one. I had quadruple checked the Hype 10's pre-order page so many times and still made the error. Thanks man.

How is it identical to Hype 4. It absolutely isn't.

@@juanblanco7898 Its an identical driver setup minus one BA. Read please before asking a question.

I tried them both and thought they were quite similar but the hype 4 had more mid bass.

Dusk 3 are coming... 2DD + 2BA + 2Planars

+3dB @300-1kHz is an odd thing to say given the norm is to normalise IEM and target in that region. So it can't really be +3dB in that region, because that's where you align it. What it is is flat or slightly sloping down in that region, rather than sloping up like Harman, but that's virtually all IEMs other than the Variations. Most people don't like the Harman bass tuck and very few IEMs follow it. It's actually pretty bang on Harman in the bass up to 500Hz if you normalize at 500Hz. It is a bit back at 2kHz. I think this was a tuning decision that maybe emphasises the bass and sense of stage but I could understand someone wanting more there, I would. +3-4dB @ 3,5k-5kHz is weird though as well, mine (and every other measurement I have seen) is under Harman in that region. It only gets above in the treble above 8kHz (which is no harm, Harman rolls off too aggressively). Part of this does depend on how you normalize them, and the fact that Harman has a mid-bass "tuck" and then an upslope from 300Hz up to 1kHz. So depends where you normalize in that range, but this is sort of a quirk of Harman in-ear rather than the IEM; almost nothing follows it.

@@blorg8206 True, I view my own measurements as averaged SPL instead of 1kHz aligned since I find with anything that has dips or peaks around there can look very misleading, but if course that's not the norm. Still for me the bass aligns well, but between 200Hz and 5,5kHz there are three wide areas (crossing the target at 1.5k, 3k and 6k)that notably separate from Harman, but positioning the graph in any other way would make half of the deviations look far worse one way or the other. To match at 1kHz would mean a massive hole from 1.5k to 3kHz and make the bass seem lacking for the average preference when I don't think it really is.

I'm potentially reviewing the DUNU Glacier in the future but likely won't be able to talk about the Mirai as there's a bit of an inherent conflict of interest - Fc-Construct

yeah, i think im just gonna go the blessing 3's.

@@ephemerisone74 wait, the Dusk version is coming!

@@resottolamontagna904 Crin says Blessing 3 is tuned "in between" blessing 2 and dusk. It shouldn't matter too much.

@@resottolamontagna904 yeahhh idk if I can wait that long. Unless it's released within the next 3 months. I can just EQ myself to bass and treble even still, it's not that bad. I'm just excited to finally replace my Red's. Anything is an upgrade at this point in the game.

Monarch Mk2 is a lot more neutral and more natural sounding. Much more natural timbre. S12 is great but much more zingy and more mid-bass as well. S12 sounds very good and very detailed but not really natural. Monarch Mk2 is certainly better, but S12 is much better value, it's severe diminishing returns from that.

@@blorg8206 I'm currently using the s12 pro with the monarch mk 2 autoeq profile. I know it's not the same but I really like the final result. Can you comment about this? Did you ever checked the s12 with an autoeq profile? Not just for monarch mk2 but any iem you have experience one on one?

Well, you are on an audio-focused channel. Discussing fine nuances is the reason this hobby exists. For 99% of the general public, they'll be well served by most of the $50-ish IEMs coming out nowadays such as the Truthear ZERO: RED.

@@Fc-Construct $50 iems sound bad to me but you are probably right. $400 is the sweet spot as I can't tell the difference between the best $200-$400 iems from the best iems in the world (I've heard many iems up to $2000 iems). But trust me. Most people do not understand what you guys are talking about. We can't hear what you are hearing nor understand what you mean. Those type of reviews should be reserved for $1000+ iems imo. As those who can tell the difference are probably the ones that can understand what you mean. Here are some questions I try to find out 1. is the bass balanced? A. mid bass vs sub bass quantity B. bass level (in dB) vs highest level of the presence region (in dB) 2. Is it clear and detailed without being harsh or shouty 3. does it sound open or closed in 4. Can you distinguish the instruments from each other and their placements in space . 5. Is it comfortable Now when I get more years of experience then I will graduate to that level of hearing. But let's not forget the most important thing. We are here for the music. If we can listen to iems that sound better than what we want then that's all that matters.

Thanks, that is good feedback.

@@Fc-Construct you have good knowledge & experience and I want people to comprehend that more clearly, you got this man 💪

The Cincotres is incredible. Different from the Hype 4 but just as good to my ears (I own them both).

@@mucklechumps Do u have the canon 2?

@@justanotheraltaccount5644 No, but I hear it's really good.

​@@mucklechumps how you would describe the difference between them?