You absolute legend.

You should post the video if you have it.

They stole my Honda cat. We should be allowed to electrocute them

I want to see that video too of them failing to steal your cat

Sadly deterring a thief in this method just sends them to steal your neighbors CAT instead.. It would be better to rig up a motion detector to an alarm. Not an alarm to scare them away, an alarm to wake you up so you can go outside and handle business. A dead thief can't steal from anyone!

I wish his car would of slipped off of the jack and crushed them.

Crime pays.

To many worthless scumbags out and about. Had wheel and tire stolen off my 03 mustang 2 bicycles ect.

Sick world. Too many evil people in the herd.

...or vindictive! Thief was foiled in his attempt to steal the catalytic converter a third time so he slashes tires. SOB needs his head held under water for about five minutes at the same time your uncle is kicking him in the nuts.

Yes. Amen. THIS. This right here.

Agreed.

People watch too much violent TV and play too many violent video games. You think that killing a cat converter thief wont scar YOU for life? I'm betting it will. In any case, these thieves are the scum of the earth and need to be brought to justice by the justice system.

@@curiousgeorge555 no it won't. it'll make me pretty happy

Calm down, cowboy

They are already regulating sales in California. The problem is most of the processing of these parts is done overseas.

@@mufflertech Up here in Minnesota the thieves sell the catalytic converters back to you on Facebook marketplace for $70. So ours are not going overseas up here. They know you need to buy it back for the emmisions test.

Yeah, that wont work

that’s the dumbest shit ever ,what about honest ppl who want to sell theirs

@@driverblaz unfortunately the dumb s*** is most of the ones the scrap yards are getting are stolen.

The first time. The other hand should they try it again!

Knaw, just nail their pecker to a log in the middle of nowhere. Hand them a knife. And tell them freedom is theirs when they're ready...

start playing by middle east rules an African rules lol I like that idea

In some countries, it is like that. That would surely send a message.

You are too kind. An exploding claymore is a better solution.

I thought about the dye pack as well as wiring power to it so they get jolted if they try to take mine again. But obviously thieves have more rights as they would file suit against me if they get hurt trying to steal from me while trespassing on my property. I guess the owner has to be involved to be covered by stand your ground laws.

They need pain. Lottsa pain.

Would it be illegal to put a white powder packet around the thing with a 'hazard' label for, oh, 'This baby is filled with bear repellent-level tear gas. Rupture at own risk.' Bilingual, naturally.

A guy did this in Seattle (with a `45) - and now he's in jail for murder. Prevention is better.

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Cat security lol its all bs thieves stealing cags shops scaming people a sawzall cuts through a master lock in no time.your lvl 1rod must be kryptonite.

@@Alongfortheride693 you need to watch the video again. The rod or level one is designed to stop a pipe cutter, not a sawzall. We use cold rolled 120 wall DOM (level 4) to stop the saw.

@@orange1soda BS? I’m always open to new ideas and suggestions but I assure you our products work.

@@Alongfortheride693 i agree

California already has this rule.

Already does in most states. But they don't track how many cats you sell. So if you sell one at each scrap yard you can hide the fact that you're selling a bunch

Scrap price on it ?

@@chuckgates1171 Depending on catalytic converter I've sold units anywhere from $10-$250 each. OEM fetches higher prices.

Ever heard of fake IDs? Easy to get in LAa

Exactly. Manufacturers should make the catalytic converters theft-proof. The consumer should not have to deal with this.

@@laurenl.6291 NO MONEY in that logic. Welcome to America Capitalism

I bought two catalytic converter security alarms and put them on mine. They both came with a sticker that says "protected by Guardian security system". I put one sticker on in full view. My logic was hopefully the sticker would sway them to leave it alone. If not, one alarm acts as a decoy. Let's say they work their butt off and figure out a way to get around the alarm somehow. After all of that work, the second alarm goes off, and they never suspected a second alarm. Let's say they spot them both and figure out some way around them in theory. The job goes from a minute or two to a half hour or more. They don't want that much misery, and for all they know there's a third alarm, a fourth alarm, something they don't suspect, so they leave and go on to the guy's truck that isn't guarded at all. Why risk the time or getting caught on my truck when John Doe down the street has no security of any kind?

"Manufacturers should have made them theft proof from the start." Here, you hit the nail on the head.

@@b4804514 Are foreign manufacturers making theft proof cats? A lot of cars are manufactured, here in the U S, are foreign, like Honda, Toyota and I'm sure others.

We are definitely seeing more desperation with these guy’s. Maybe more people doing it creates competition amongst the thieves.

They kept trying probably because the amount of money they were getting from the cats was worth the extra attempts...🤔🤬😠

You don’t believe those damn thieves are very bold now a day. If they get caught then only few months in jail and they are back in the same business when they get out.

@@vxphan2601 no jail time in California

@@mufflertech for anything! 🤣

They have too many rights and would file suit against you for hurting them while trying to steal your stuff while on your property.

@@marklubinski4195 gotta love the justice system in this country.Too bad we don't have a few Middle Eastern laws,chopping a thief's hand off would be sending out a great message.

@@marklubinski4195 I really doubt you'd hear from their attorney!

@@rkalsic Sadly he's right. It's basically an open and shut case for them. You can have a contingency fee arrangement, you only pay an agreed percentage if you win. There are also government programs to help pay for attorney fees etc. The only possible defense would be to claim it was meant for vermin XD; I seriously doubt that would work, but at least it's honest.

It's a new world problem and who the fuck wants to pay more for a new car just to stop crackheads

they're probably the number one buyers of stolen cats lol.

How are they supposed to prevent thefts? Weld armor around the cat? How is it supposed to be serviced? acetylene torch? The problem is the third world conditions we have in the US. Our society is completely rotten.

@@fuqutube actually, Rhodium is the pricey one. ;)

that's because this is all purposeful microcosms for agenda 2030

or, lay them on a bed of hot catalytic converters...🤣

Hang ‘em high

Short ropes and tall platforms for thiefs.

Karma

@@mufflertech what kind of people stealing those catalytic’s in the US? Hete they are mostly from eastern europe coming to the west. Stealing and than go back

Should have just backed up to make sure.

And the family of the thief will sue, and probably win because he was the "poor victim"

I love a happy ending.

I believe most of this movement is organized crime. If I’m right local and state level laws won’t matter. As long as rhodium stays at high levels I think we will continue to see this unfortunate issue continue.

@@mufflertech True - no recycler would have a use for a cutoff converter. Organized crime can easily put together the technology to extract the precious metals and sell them.

had my cat stolen 2x in the past couple weeks. just had the new cat installed and asked the dealer to install the cat security shield too. cost an arm and leg but i'm hoping i can go incident free for at least the rest of the year. paying two $500 deductibles plus the cost of the cat shield is expensive for an old prius. i just hope those mechanics at the dealer aren't in on this scam since they would know exactly how to un-install the cat shield... that's my worry now. no piece of mind owning a prius these days... ;o(

@@BumSkidley you can rest easy my friend. The whole reason they steal them is it takes like 2 minutes if you are bad at it. Even if someone knows the fastest way to take off the cat shield they are gonna need more tools/time than what will be worth it to them.

@@alexwitteried3893 I have heard of someone having one stolen even with the shield, but that does take a lot of time drilling out the rivets, which really heightens the risk, when there are usually other cars without any deterrents nearby.

got mine stolen with the shield......

@@gailcahill4006 Did they cut the shield? Drill out the rivets?

Come and see us, we have lots of So Cal clients. We got you.

@@mufflertech They got me. Sad and expensive. The laws are a total joke. Penalties are hilarious.

@@mufflertech Anyone in the San Diego area? Thanks!

go on your local 'nextdoor' site, they have various places that people post for getting cat converter protection, from more to less expensive, got mine done locally for about 150, can't remember the name of the place but you'll find places on nextdoor

@@mufflertech i may need to drive out there to see you. Here in Mississippi you can imagine there are like zero people doing this. Not a big problem but im going to be traveling and camping out of the Prius later this year so i want this taken care of!

They are in the works.

@@mufflertech awesome!!😁

After getting my Accord's stolen this week, I finally located one from Miller. Give it a try. Expensive sheet metal!

I'm a welder, go to a welding shop, they can make a custom one for you. I made one for my Toyota Tacoma, 6 days later thieves came back to steel mine, but left empty handed.

Do you have the name of the welding shop in Long Island that was willing to weld pipes around your cat? My 2012 Sequoia cat got stolen. Thinking of getting a new vehicle/replacement vehicle.

Careful, a buddy of mine super glued razors on the back of his radio and got sued and _lost_

@@231mac shoulda never said he put em on. must have been the previous owner

YES! The sickos are drilling holes in the gas tanks to drain the gas!

got mine stolen with the shield

@@gailcahill4006 sorry to read this. What shield was it and was it aluminum or stainless steel? Thanks

This is why we’ve come up with our additional levels. That said, if a thief wants something bad enough nothing is impenetrable. It is a risk vs. reward situation.

It is my pleasure, thank you for watching.

I’m working on a couple of new videos. It takes a lot of time. The shop is so busy it’s hard to stay on top of staying current here. I made a video on the motor home issue. We do at least one MH a day line yours. Here’s the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rtalarSU2MvVfps.html

Root cause if not the actual thief whom steal your CAT, but is the buyer(s) and automotive company should start putting either protect shield from the factory or etch the ID# on the CAT so it prevent it from being sold at the markets or salvage yards etc...

@@tousshong9438 How about remove the regulation for the CAT. To quote Ronald Reagan; "Government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem".

@@dbmn7571 exactly. don't require these cats on the cars and it won't get stolen. or else the state should reimburse the victims their insurance deductible and for those that only have liability, it should still be covered. not enough police to catch the thieves, and when they are caught, nothing happens. with no consequence or repercussions these crimes will only continue to hurt the law abiding citizens.

@@BumSkidley recently had my CAT stolen, but replaced it with a resonator...$ 200 and not worth anything to the next thief.

@@dbmn7571 unfortunately, the thieves are just as likely to steal the resonator, thinking it's a catalytic convertor (or thinking you're trying to disguise it as one. ;) ).

Thanks for watching even though it doesn’t apply to you. Converters have a massive affect on the reduction of emissions that come from a combustion engine. The precious metal are the active ingredients along with heat that allow the conversion of harmful gases, see here: www.uti.edu/blog/automotive/catalytic-converter

Not a good idea. Cat can overheat. It needs to stay ventilated. The foam can catch fire. Then the whole car catches fire.

We agree this will work for a thief, it will also go off with any cat, squirrel, or other movement causing lots of false alarms. Our products are static and reliable.

You are so TOUGH dude

Catch them, stand your ground laws may be the only help for owners to fight back.

What would you do to them if you caught them? Most likely you would get sued and/or put in prison.

@@curiousgeorge555 not if they threaten your life. Wouldn’t be very hard to convince a jury of

I never claimed they were impossible to remove, they are just an additional level of protection deterrent and they work very well towards this effort. Thanks for watching!

@@mufflertech I never said you claimed they could not be removed I was just explaining that a small pipe wrench would probably easily remove these special bolts as many people think they are bullet proof. Maybe I should not have as there is probably a lot of these scum bag thieves who might have not known this. And yes your different levels of protection will probably prevent the theft of the converter because I would think a thief would just move on to the next unprotected vehicle. It is a shame when we have to spend hundreds of dollars to protect our vehicles from parts thieves.

I have a 2009 Prius and still waiting for stolen cat to be replaced. Isn’t the cat located at the center of the car? I’m so afraid it’s going to be stolen again.

@F M Just took pictures for insurance on my mom's 2009 Prius, it definitely runs up through the middle of the car and connects to the additional stuff in the back. This is our second stolen CC, both in our apartment parking lot. This time it had a Toyota placed "cat guard" that clearly didn't guard it. :(

I’m sorry I do not. We have a lot of people drive up to us from Southern California.

As a professional shop we warranty everything we do, soldering the wires to rather sensitive 02 sensors does not always prove to be a reliable repair.

@@mufflertech fair enough I get your point, you don't want any comebacks. I do hope you gave them the option though as it's would be a easy repair for an expensive part.

@@craiglambie9373 once we spend the labor time on properly soldering and shrink wrapping the wires the savings isn’t that much. I recognize a lot of people see this as a DIY solution and in this case there’s no labor charges so it pencils. To charge a customer our shop minimum of .5 hours to repair cut wires that may not work we don’t feel it’s an ethical solution. We don’t charge customer’s any labor to install a new sensor with a stolen cat so it’s only the difference between the sensor and the labor that is a savings.

@@mufflertech I agree with you on this. That is why the mechanics won't replace the A/C compressor clutch. The clutch is $50, but a new A/C compressor is $200 and the labor rate is $140/hr. Three months down the road the A/C compressor might fail anyways.

I agree with you. It is however something manufacturers can’t forecast as cat theft is relatively new epidemic.

Yes, please call the shop for details, 916-421-0399

Two things. First off all how do you know if your vehicle has any other issues with the check engine light already on for the cat missing? Secondly your polluting the environment. I get that it’s frustrating that someone took your cat but does that give you the right to mess with our environment?

@@mufflertech I thought my insurance would cover it but it doesn't. Paying $450+ not worth to replace it as vehicle is only worth $500. I see some Chinese knockoffs online but herd they fail.

@@drsysop a running driving Prius is worth a lot more than $500 right now. Stay away from the cheap overseas made parts.

@@mufflertech Not the Prius the Escape isn't worth more than $500 maybe $700 on top end as it was a junky SUV anyway.

We’re in Sacramento Ca.

@@mufflertech LOL

Up here in Minnesota the thieves are selling the stolen catalytic converters on Facebook Marketplace back to the public for $70. They know you will need it back to pass the emmisions test.

Bicycle..

Straight pipe it and call it a day

@@franklaskus2395 Have you heard a Prius without the cats? You have to wear ear plugs to drive it. Sounds like a NHRA car. It's stupid loud for being such a small engine.

$500 deductible is "killing" you, but yet you are considering purchasing a new car? Makes sense...

@@zacharypeery4082 that's called financing. I used to have customers come in all the time that couldn't afford to fix their car so I'd send them right up to the sales department to trade their car in as is and put them in a brand new car with nothing down.

This is happening all over the globe.

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Cut their hands off!!!! Those m;$^&k^@#$^(

I can show you the same. Nothing against your mechanic, but unless they have an alternative offering that is better, simply pointing out faults in existing products to stop this is obtuse. We have way more customers that have our deterrent options that have not experienced a theft again then have. With an average of 15-20 vehicles in our shop for catalytic converter theft we have the data.

@@mufflertech I was just pointing out the efforts thieves are going to. Nothing obtuse about it. I'm looking at a variety of options. I'm worried Insurance won't cover the next one and I don't see much out there that inspires confidence. There are many options that could work but seeing someone rip apart the cat security plate, which is solid, was disappointing. Must be some desperate people for such a risk.

@@burrdaddy I’m with you, that was my point of this video. So you’re aware, if you keep a comprehensive policy active your insurance company doesn’t get to decide to not cover a theft again, they either have to replace it or choose to total the vehicle. The fact that you’ve had a claim in the past doesn’t affect another claim in valuation. That said, if any customer has too many claims an insurance company can choose to drop you after the last claim is resolved. We do what we can to stop it, and most of the time we’re successful.

@@mufflertech Great advice, thanks!

@@mufflertech good to know and i am impressed with your use of the word "obtuse."

It works!

It does not interfere with an oil service.

good luck walking away with something that weighs over 1000 lbs

Think about it bob

Yes, like the Tesla Model 3.. The entire floor is also the battery... Wonder how hard that would be to remove and then somehow carry away??? :)

The ECU’s in most modern cars are very sensitive to resistance in wiring, especially from the 02 sensors. Soldering the wires can create more resistance in the current then the stranded wires. Although your way will sometimes work, we are in the business of fixing things the correct way.

@@mufflertech this doesn't fly. The difference between an original wire and a solder fix should be on the order of maybe at most 1/10,000 of an ohm difference. Of course, most people are don't have the right technique and the right tools to do it well. If your guys ran into problems soldering an 02 sensor wire, the problem is their tools/material/techniques. People are doing rough Sutter patches lines ranging anywhere from 24 to 3.3 volts and it frequencies from one megahertz up to 4 GHz, without the kind of problems you're reporting. Those that are using the right materials and technique do just fine. An oxygen sensor is sending crude data (if you can call it data really) that simply isn't going to be hampered by the kind of resistance increase you might experience, unless it was a really really bad solder repair.

@@saganandroid4175 We're not in the electrical repair business so we stay in our lane. Most of the jobs we are doing are covered by an insurance claim and I can't imagine that even if your way works reliably it is actually better then an a sensor that was never cut in the first place. If an insurance company is paying for it why wouldn't we give the customer the best repair possible. Furthermore, if you talk to any trained technician from Honda, they do not recommend repairing any cut wires in the manner in which you suggest. I am not saying your way won't ever work, it is just not protocol for us as a company.

@@mufflertech the entire world of electronics works using the very method I described. All today's cars use some level of electronics so you had better get yourself comfortable. To me, this looks like either ignorance-leading-fear or gouging.

@@saganandroid4175 Now you're stepping into an area of being disrespectful. You are clearly not in the industry of automotive repair. Not a single licensed automotive repair shop will use your method when they are offering a warranty to their customers. Not a single Toyota technician will advise your repair. As I have said before, it's not that it doesn't ever work, it is the possibility of an issue down the road. We don't want customers to experience any problems that we can avoid. As far as gouging, we make 20% at most on any parts sales. An 02 sensor that sells for $150 would yield a $30 profit before shop expenses. Our 1/2 an hour minimum labor charge is $65. We would actually make more money doing it your way. Lastly, if the entire world of electronics does it your way why isn't there any solder joints in wiring harnesses in new vehicles? I appreciate your input and participation as I do with everyone's here, but lets go easy on the insults.

Virginia, I'm sorry no one has replied to your very important question yet. I bought both the Miller Cat shield and the Cat Security Shield. Brought them both to my mechanic. Although, the Miller Cat shield cost more and was boasting that it is made of stainless steel (instead of aluminum,) upon physical inspection, both the Miller Cat and the Cat Security used pretty much THE same metal material, of the same thickness, so there wasn't a lot of difference there. My mechanic, looking at both anti-theft devices determined that the Cat Security was the better design, because it prevents access to the area of the catalytic converter, entirely. The Miller Cat was substantially smaller in size / area that it covered. You want the thieves to have to cut at much metal as possible (to slow them down,) in order to be able to even get to your cat. Additionally, spring for the UPGRADED Cat Security model that is shown in this video which has the additional 2 brackets, which further reduce accessibility. (they can't just slide a saws-all in there on an angle. They are gonna have to cut that metal bracket first. ---which they can, but it's gonna add time to their theft.) However, my mechanic did mention that with enough time / in an unobserved location, a thief can STILL saw through this cat shield & the additional metal brackets, and still steal your cat converter. This device only adds another 10 minutes or so, onto the sawing. So while it may prevent the 1 min and 30 second cat theft... "the saw and flee" .... it won't prevent the theft if the thief has access to the car in a remote location where the thief thinks they have a good amount of time to attempt the crime, before anyone might hear them. I have a 2nd gen Prius. Hope this is helpful. And for anyone else reading... i agree... this entire situation sucks... and the MANUFACTURERS should be responsible for leaving the catalytic converters vulnerable. There should be a huge recall on ALL vulnerable vehicles... and these anti theft devices installed on all of the cars, at the car manufacturer's cost. But that's the thing... the car manufacturers / cat manufacturers are making millions selling new/replacement converters to those who endure the thefts... with it happening multiple times to some unfortunate car owners, (with and without theft devices.) This is a manufacturing design flaw. The consumer should not have to bear this burden. The manufacturers have basically CREATED the problem and the market for the thefts. Because let's face it... if the precious metals in a cat are worth millions (collectively).... and the manufacturer basically designs the vehicle so that the 'diamonds & gold' are on the outside of the vehicle, easily accessible to thieves.... the thieves steal the 'diamonds & gold'*...... sell them to the middle men who 'wash' the 'gems' and repackage them for sale on the precious metals market..... and then, I am guessing that a good portion of those 'gems' go BACK INTO the catalytic converter manufacturing market.... those cats are then sold to be put on new cars and as replacements on cars that suffered the thefts. It's a pretty common recent economic model in America, (especially) .... "paying multiple times for the same item (that you've already bought) or service." And we're paying again and again.... because the designs of these vehicles have no theft deterrent aspects at all, when it comes to cat converters. Not a lot different than if manufacturers didn't provide locks on the car doors or require a unique key to start the engine. (probably how it was on the first cars manufactured.) * diamonds & gold'*. is a metaphor for the actual metals: i.e. "The three precious metals that are most commonly contained inside of a catalytic converter are platinum, rhodium, and palladium. All three have seen spikes in prices as the pandemic surged and as global supply chains slowed."

Please contact us at the shop for pricing, it is a moving target so I don't like to post prices online

It’s already that way in California

They use a jack to lift the car before they go under them

This is where my mind went. Exhaust gets hot and now you've shielded the heat in one location. Is the shield a nice/bad thing to have on your vehicle? I'd like to know more on this subject

It has vents... and the catalysts are designed to work at high temperatures, and there's still plenty of airflow, as well as insulation and heat shields to keep the heat from getting into the cabin.

Yes. Thanks for the compliments. You’re correct about the efficiency of the cordless tools. I tell customers all the time that we can cut your entire car in half with enough blades and batteries and a decent cordless sawzall.

What's your idea for another level?