Things to know when getting a CNC- Genmitsu 4040 pro

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I continue to practice and learn how to operate my new compact CNC router. I am a totally new to this and bringing you along for my adventure.
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@RP-gf5me Жыл бұрын

I have been into CNC for 2 years, finally gotten really good at it. 3D carving and design is my main work.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Maybe one day, I will get there

@oupaswoodshop1325 Жыл бұрын

Good job Clack. You'll have success. Perseverance

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I am having fun with it.

@budgetmerch 11 ай бұрын

Having just watched your video showcasing your bird perch as a gift for your mother, I came and rewatched this CNC router video. I have watched several but I wasn't originally keen on the dust these machines create - however, I'm getting ideas now for how I can incorporate one into my small mechandise business. I think it's time to give serious thought to this! 👍

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

They are very useful and fun. I am now looking into a larger one…. This one is good to learn on and does great on small things but I need bigger now…lol

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

I have also engineered a pretty good dust collection system for it

@midstaterustics4507 Жыл бұрын

You are going to love that DWP 611. I freehand carve signs with routers and this is my go to work horse.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

I am just hoping its not too much horsepower for the chassis.. gonna take it slow at first

@midstaterustics4507 Жыл бұрын

@@TheClackShack nice thing is it is variable speed so you can slow it down if need be.

@rmgf1005 Жыл бұрын

Carbide bits are a good thing to use for what you are doing. Try to leave about .010 on the rough cut for a finish cut.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip

@mrt2431 11 ай бұрын

Also new to cnc. Taking this ride with ya.

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

It has been fun so far..

@michaeljamescarlile Жыл бұрын

I use Vectric V-Carve Pro, It came with my Shark Pro and I have kept it updated over the years.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

I have heard it is a good software

@MarklTucson 11 ай бұрын

Appreciate the insight this provided. Regarding the bits -- this appears to be the same issue one encounters with router and shaper cutters and available profiles complicated by the fact that all of the design and tool moves need to be identified at design time. For your relay, a 3D printed enclosure or cover should solve your problem. I did something very similar for the electronics and power distribution for my electrically adjustable height welding table.

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

I will probably make an acrylic box with ventilation.

@bowillis9195 Жыл бұрын

I use open builds as my g sender and it has a function called check size that will frame. By the way I’m in Pell City . I’ve been doing laser for a couple years and cnc for about a year and I will say that lasers are easier but once you play with the cnc it becomes easy as well.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Yea, the bit selection is gonna take some work but so far, it seems really fun. Hello neighbor,

@IfUOnlyKnew Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite bits is a diamond spring-loaded drag bit for acrylics

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Nice

@woodlandgrains6087 Жыл бұрын

I love Whiteside bits.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Cool

@kingdomtouchesbyajayrichrn6077 Жыл бұрын

Roughing is done more efficiently with endmills.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

That’s what I am learning.

@edturonek1136 Жыл бұрын

I have a 3020 pro and a 4040 pro, I like using the amana or spetool bits, usually a 60* sometimes a 90*

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@Railroad_Talk 11 ай бұрын

Feeds and speeds are tricky.. to slow takes for ever.. to fast you’re breaking bits and it all changes depending on the type of wood lol. Doing a lot better than me when I got started. I should have started with a laser but I started with a CNC and wrecked my machine a good bit but nothing ever broke. Amana makes some great bits, chamfers, bowl bits, compression bits etc etc. I learn something every time I cut that machine on lol. Roll tide btw! Glad I found your channel.

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

Yea, I am playing with MDF before moving to real wood. I am hoping the transition goes well.

@hangingbythemoments3762 11 ай бұрын

Btw if you ever decide to cut acrylic the Dewalt router will cause you headaches. The minimum rpm is too high for a normal 2 flute bit. I would use an o flute bit. If possible the Makita router is a better option because they have a lower minimum rpm. Also with the Dewalt you will pretty much always what the rpm set to minimum. If you run much over that you will burn your bits. Just things I learned the hard way.

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

Thanks

@chipsmith6486 11 ай бұрын

I came from cnc to laser. Bits from IDC woodcraft are great. up and downcut 1/4 , 1/8 bits, but you will find that v bits are your friend. IDC has chart for feeds and speeds . Vectric is to cnc like lightburn is to laser. Oramask will save you a lot of time in your painting. Seal with shellac, oramask, cut then paint.

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the tips!

@HeyNickNick Жыл бұрын

With that dewalt router, you’ll notice that the z axis will flex if your depth of cut is too deep. The linear bearings aren’t very good quality on the z axis and it’s a pretty well known issue at this point. Just a heads up.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Yea, I am looking at running it slower than if it were on a larger machine. Not that the router can’t handle it but the frame

@kingdomtouchesbyajayrichrn6077 Жыл бұрын

I’m new to CNC but I’m a maniac and my first machine is a 1500x1500 lead CNC. I’m a go big or go home kind of girl!

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Not in my budget, nor do I have the room for it… that would be massive

@0590don 8 ай бұрын

Once you get going get yourself some carbide upcut and downcut end mill bits 1/4 inch shaft, some ball nose bits and so on.

@TheClackShack 8 ай бұрын

Yep,, lots of bits

@JackInTheShop Жыл бұрын

With that new router and the tapered ball nose bit on that machine, you will not need to run a roughing tool path on most your work. If the cut you plan to make is deeper than the cut flutes on that bit is the only time you will need to rough. That will speed up the project time eminently.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

I have to study the bits but hopefully it will speed things up. Thanks for the info

@pietermulder9199 Жыл бұрын

Hi David. At 16m30s, the wood board in your hand is called pressed wood. Some guys like me call it "Weet-bix" wood. Coming from the Weet-bix cereal in South Africa.😂

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

It’s not very sturdy but good practice material instead of burning it

@pietermulder9199 Жыл бұрын

@TheClackShack Yes I agree.

@jlathem56 11 ай бұрын

Hey Alabama! To get a cover for that converter all you need to do is to find a file for your 3D printer and print one, easy ..... oh wait..... no one has sent you a 3D printer yet! Well, I guess that will be a project for you once you master the CNC! LOL... Just razzing you. I appreciate your videos Alabama. It's nice hearing an accent for home. And the topics are interesting too!

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

Not sure where a 3 d printer would go.. shop is getting smaller

@jlathem56 11 ай бұрын

@@TheClackShack - I completely understand!

@hangingbythemoments3762 11 ай бұрын

If you need help with Easel just let me know. I learned CNC with Easel about 8 years ago. I have transitioned to Vectric Aspire and if you continue you probably will too. Vectric really allows you to dial in those toolpaths. I'm located in north Alabama so if you are ever up this way and have questions just let me know. I will gladly help.

@billlester3088 5 ай бұрын

A quick question, enjoyed your presentation on the 40x40 pro CNC Ie, what are the x and y tube sizes, and do you anticipate flexing when using the De walt router.?

@TheClackShack 5 ай бұрын

I want to say they are 15mm, if you do not run the appropriate speeds it will flex. You can't run it to the max but it is still way faster than the stock spindle. After using both, I like the Makita router better due to the lower speeds. Also, If you can get one of their 300 watt spindles, it seems to do a really good job with the 1/8 inch bits.

@billlester3088 5 ай бұрын

Thank you clack for the prompt response; I appreciate your insight and the projects you involve yourself@@TheClackShack

@barbaraboyd7269 11 ай бұрын

Hi! Cog Hill Farm sent me over.

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

Thanks

@chrisgallaher3899 Жыл бұрын

Pssst you can frame, but I am not really familiar with Easel so it may/may not have it buried somewhere, I design in Lightburn, save Gcode and then use UGS to open file and send to Machine, the thing that convinced me to go this way was I can frame the job!!

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

That would be nice. I will look for it

@spafa9 Жыл бұрын

I also use UGS. You will probably not find it under framing but look up Zero and homing in your easel. The zero position is basically where the carve will start. The only way I know to do it is move the Z up to to a little more than the height of the material zero out the z and basically hit play (run) which does an air cut.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

@@spafa9 , yea, I have used that by setting the working home position higher but it doesnt frame the entire design, it just starts the job.

@ElmoTheDestroyer 11 ай бұрын

There are a bunch of free 3d printable covers for that relay, just search any of the major sources of 3d printing files and search for that relay part number. :)

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

Yea, I currently do not have 3d printing capability. I was able to mount it inside a double gang AC box. Working great and staying cool.

@daynafost 2 ай бұрын

Can’t you resin fill some of those? Like the happy camper!

@TheClackShack 2 ай бұрын

It could be done

@steveray5288 Жыл бұрын

Can the bits get dull and can they be sharpened?

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

I am sure they can get dull and will. Maybe…

@srae40 Күн бұрын

Can this CNC enable one to do inlays wood in wood?

@TheClackShack Күн бұрын

You could. Would need the appropriate software

@srae40 Күн бұрын

@@TheClackShack could you recommend which software would be able to run the machine and handle the inlay. I want to do some simple letters and designs

@srae40 Күн бұрын

@@TheClackShack I want to eventually get the shapeoko pro, so if possible some software that will work with both if possible

@bearman3163 5 ай бұрын

I’m researching now. Great video, thanks

@TheClackShack 5 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@tedvoskuil2827 8 ай бұрын

Does the genmitsu have z travel?

@TheClackShack 8 ай бұрын

Z travel?

@tedvoskuil2827 8 ай бұрын

does the spindle move up and down automatically@@TheClackShack

@chucklenz9011 Жыл бұрын

Now add dust that the vacuum doesn’t pickup. Sounds like your handling the learning curve OK. I’ll watch from the side line.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

I can see it getting much messier when I add the dewalt…

@griffgear3d 9 ай бұрын

So you're saying bits is it?

@TheClackShack 9 ай бұрын

Sure

@kingdomtouchesbyajayrichrn6077 Жыл бұрын

Your alignment happens when you put your dimensions in the software.

@TheClackShack Жыл бұрын

Yes, but when using something that has a design on it, you have to account for where it is in the workspace.

@jonwoodworker 11 ай бұрын

Throw those stock clamps away. Get XFasten woodworkers tape.

@TheClackShack 11 ай бұрын

I will say they are my least favorite part of the machine

@bomaryniuk3639 7 ай бұрын

Scroll to 55% of the video to skip unnecessary talk about nothing.

@TheClackShack 7 ай бұрын

You got jokes, good thing I don't care....Thanks for watching

@lindashealingart 5 ай бұрын

That’s rude I love the talking I’m learning

@alexey_sychev 3 ай бұрын

Things to know when getting this CNC - we should not watch your videos if we expect to get any useful information about the actual machine...

@TheClackShack 3 ай бұрын

Aren’t you just a delightful person. Your folks sure are proud.

@GRudeger Ай бұрын

I don't want to be a jerk, but like you, I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I spend $3k on CN setup. But 10 minutes into a 25 minute video all I've heard is get some different bits. Not what kind, not for what material, not where, not why. Just get some bits. Sorry guy, thumbs down. I feel like you wasted my time.

@TheClackShack Ай бұрын

Everyone has their own opinions, others differ. I am not a salesman