Spitfire Symphony Re-issue vs. BBCSO
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So which is the mightiest Spitfire library - the newly re-launched Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra or the awesome BBC Symphony Orchestra? That was the question everyone was asking me last week so today I leap back into the fray and pit them library against library. I'll explain the difference, go through the features, play you the sounds and then write a piece of music using BOTH libraries at the same time.
As always, I'll be trying to pass on as many tips and tricks about writing a piece of fantasy music as I can using Cubase 13, Spitfire Symphony Orchestra Relaunched and BBC SO, both Core and Pro. So if you are looking for a tutorial in writing orchestral music AND a battle of the libraries all in one video, you've come to the right place.
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NOTE: I am not paid or sponsored in any way. I get free review software but I only bring you stuff I think you will like!
0:00: Start
1:30: Feature comparison SSO vs BBCSO
6:25: Scoring demo - String ostinato
9:50: Cello comparison
12:45: Harp
14:55: Celesta
15:55:. Woodwind
20:54: Brass
24:00: Violins
27:00: Finished Piece
@cjthomasmusic 4 ай бұрын
I’ve owned BBCSO Pro for a while and recently picked up the SSO. To me, BBC is a more well behaved library. Very “down the middle” sound. Easy to program. Sounds great out of the box. But I’m preferring the SSO because it’s less behaved. It feels a bit more alive to me. Feels more dynamic and detailed. A bit more bite.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
that is bang on
@MrCrompz 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I own BBCSO Core and I do sometimes feel it sound slightly too ‘classical’ for what I’m going for. However, I do prefer it to libraries like Albion, as I hate it when you don’t get control of individual instruments and only get variants on ‘woodwind section’ or something (although overall, the sound of Albion style libraries generally is more suited to what I’m going for… maybe I should try it at some point)
@gtholt2816 4 ай бұрын
Your videos make me so happy, I love it, also great review, keep up the amazing work!!
@TPOID 4 ай бұрын
Perfect timing! Just got done watching your last video about the Re-issue and asked myself the question.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
:)
@LotusEater14 4 ай бұрын
You're such a legend. Really enjoy your videos. Please keep it up, you're a highlight to my day.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
thank you
@RobertRodriguezMusic 4 ай бұрын
Love a VS video! 🙌 Excited to watch this one!
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
it was good fun to do :)
4 ай бұрын
YES ! Exactly what we needed!
@tsenkov 4 ай бұрын
Subscribed a few weeks ago and this is becoming a favourite channel. Thank you for the great content!
@squeakD 4 ай бұрын
Guy makes it all look so easy. It’s funny because those of us that have been playing a long time are used to people saying that to us.., but we also say it to other great musicians as well. Guy is very good at what he does.
@briancollins1475 4 ай бұрын
This was really good timing. Thank you. I had just completed the Sampled Orchestration course using my trusty BBCSO Core and that had made me to hanker after something more "complete" in terms of instruments and mic positions. So I was planning to move up to Pro when I try eventually to complete Cinematic Orchestration (from way back - not the relaunch). But it seems totally clear to me that my best course of action is to buy SSO rather than upgrade to Pro. 1. I get a lot more instruments and articulations. 2. I get the *useful* mic positions rather than an enormous number that I would not use. 3. I still get to keep and use my BBCSO Core to blend in as appropriate. 4. SSO uses Kontakt, which I trust, rather than the Spitfire Player (where I have three unresolved support tickets!). 5. And I am still spending the same ££. In this upgrade scenario, SSO seems a no-brainer.
@acdms 3 ай бұрын
I never get bored watching your channel. You have great music
@animeshsankat3119 4 ай бұрын
Learning from you is always a joy, especially sitting here in India❤
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
Greetings!
@sonicart1808 4 ай бұрын
Great as always Guy thanks, Talking of the BBC, I work for a TV company and I was conforming some old Blankety Blank episodes recently and noticed a familiar contestant on one of them 😆 he looks better now, to be honest😏
@user-eh1vp3ev3c 4 ай бұрын
Incredible work as always Guy, don't ever change 🙂
@HankAstral 4 ай бұрын
The conclusion is they work great together. Great tune guy
@JanBLarsson 4 ай бұрын
Nice video, and now I have bought the course too. There will be old breadcrumbs to eat until Easter 😂. I'm sure it's worth it. Bought the two required scores as well. Hopefully Spitfire SO will be a great companion alongside everything. ❤
@connollytunes 4 ай бұрын
"There may be trouble ahead...", but while there's Spitfire and music and Guy with his silly hood-eeeee - there ain't no trouble at all. Pure enjoyment. Thanks, Guy!
@powerbastion1083 4 ай бұрын
Thank you again for an excellent review - my fellow Sussex man.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
:)
@LorenFagen 4 ай бұрын
"cathedral of wonderfullness" I love it!!
@shubus 4 ай бұрын
This vid is just what we needed. I'm now convinced now that BBCSO Pro is fine for my needs--especially since I already have it. And now for the Tip Of The Month: How can we easily spot music created on a DAW? Answer: Look for an opening ostinato.
@jaywoelfel9228 3 ай бұрын
I just talked to a friend how is very musically interested but not talented or able to compose himself this week. He says he's now done some, in his words, very convincing, songs using AI. He said country songs seem to work very well. Anyway a prebuilt ostinato is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm sure you see the trend of many sample libraries now of "textures." These sometimes openly just say, hold down one note or a chord and you can immediately get minutes of score without moving a muscle.
@shubus 3 ай бұрын
@@jaywoelfel9228And it's going to all start sounding the same---as with all AI generated content.
@umatgeratonleik2584 4 ай бұрын
Timestamps for myself: Quick comparison SSO 2:48 BBCSO 3:17
@DJSkyracer 4 ай бұрын
I love these videos. I’m building a new studio, and I’m gonna go with Spitfire! 😁👍🏼
@rodterrell304 4 ай бұрын
This is an excellent video Guy, if I were to buy another sample library, I would get the BBCO core due to price. I'm just an armature hobbyist. The tip on Trombone voicing was very helpful.
@Bonamici 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful piece Guy!! 💛💙
@simonreglar7261 4 ай бұрын
Another amazing video, Guy, thank you!
@MaxiCortezProducciones 4 ай бұрын
Tremendas librerías... y lo tuyo es excelente!
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
They are
@anatomicallymodernhuman5175 4 ай бұрын
It's astonishing how good that quick sketch sounds. BBC sounds more like music. But SSO has more clarity and definition, especially in the pitched percussion. Plus, as I understand it, it has an extra dynamic layer. I have BBC Pro, and wish I could justify adding SSO to my template.
@doodle6497 4 ай бұрын
I think for strings at least, BBCSO has consistently three dynamic layers, where SSO strings sometimes are a blend of a piano layer and a forte layer (I speak as someone who spent way too much time under the hood mainly fussing about where the velocity layers divvied up, and that's how I discovered this. There's variance along the way, but some articulations have only two - even only one - dynamic layers.)
@timravesteijn 4 ай бұрын
Love your video’s! Just bought the SSO 2024 library. Really love it! On your website you offer a cubase template for the library. Any change you also have one for logic? It’s really hard to come by 😅
@FLH3official 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, Guy. I already own BBC SO Pro and I'm thinking to expand my orchestral palette with the Spitifire Symphony "At A New Reasonable Price". I'm still hesitating but I heard it could be a nice "enlarged" complement. 18:20 I love the story about the ney and the qanun player 😅 But now we need to know how you used and orchestrated the qanun instead of a ney!
@JoelEverettComposer 4 ай бұрын
I havr BBC Pro and just picked up SSO. For my take I find the expanded techniques a nice complement to the BBC SO
@CraigRodmellMusic 4 ай бұрын
18:40 No, I haven't had a lost Bassoon crisis, but I HAVE had a lost Double Bass crisis. While scoring in BBCSO Core one day last year, I noticed that the Bass part had just vanished. Curiously, though, the missing Bass part was still somehow playing back, even though it wasn't there. I had inadvertently pressed a key combination that caused the track to be hidden.
@chrismoule7242 4 ай бұрын
Been there...
@RudalPL 4 ай бұрын
HA! Very timely video. I own the BBC SO and was just wondering what's really the difference between the two.
@raeloonja4832 4 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video and this lovely little piece of faery demo piece 😉 I own BBCSO and i was wondering if it was worth buying SSO. In the end, I feel that both are worthwhile. But that it's not essential to want to quickly replace one with the other. In any case, I'll end up buying it sooner or later!
@nealegordon 4 ай бұрын
Nice vid thanks Guy. Reminded me a bit of a “potter esque” section
@Absolute585 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Finally an answer to one thing of the many things we wish to know. There so many of these orchestral libraries. All of these companies have the same marketing campaign. Always talking about how they captured every detail while recording and the wonderful rich, deep and warm ambiance of whichever famous space it was recorded in. Also the amount of microphones they used. That it is the only library you need. I could go and ramble on, but I think you get the gist. We don't need perfection. We don't like marketing. I personally think getting results fast is more important. We spend hundreds of dollars on these things. Take your (potential) customers seriously. Honesty and ambition can coexist if done right.
@alainlabonte6750 3 ай бұрын
I love your videos, educational with a touch of humor, if you ever want to take a tour of your home studio, learn about the choice of hardware and plugins…THANKS
@trentwaterman7049 4 ай бұрын
THANKYOU for this sir!
@mymusicbox1322 4 ай бұрын
I still watch “Daw 2 Score” when I’m in a rut for inspiration. Great series.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
Ha - happy days
@donstevenson3960 4 ай бұрын
Loved that one. Sounds like a John Williams Star Wars theme!
@nicholaswheeler1311 4 ай бұрын
Looking forward to watching this. The “old” Spitfire Symphony orchestra is at a significant discount to its previous prices.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
It is great value now
@MikeGeorgia 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you. BBCSO does have muted brass. I believe they are loaded as a separate instrument rather than as an articulation.
@LeeGee 4 ай бұрын
I'm looking forward to the day when wobbling a key introduces vibrato through polyphonic aftertouch!
@SilverRiMiX 3 ай бұрын
It will be a wondrous day indeed.
@andyjacobs7010 2 ай бұрын
@Roli - Lumikeys and Seaboard/Block M And K-Board-C Midi-controllers
@justincox1685 2 ай бұрын
this is therapy of the best kind...ty
@JohnSk82 4 ай бұрын
Dude .... THE THUMBNAIL hahah. Love you mate ,always a trol
@adriendecroy7254 4 ай бұрын
I bought the original SSO, and it was about $3000 NZD. I couldn't really use it until NotePerformer 4 came out with support for it, and now I love it. Unfortunately NotePerformer 4.4 doesn't yet support the re-issue. Thankfully Spitfire kindly gave me a free upgrade.
@Lesit12 19 сағат бұрын
thank you for the template! I want to know what you are doing in your session? more than anything
@jaymurray6051 4 ай бұрын
It’s that adorable guy with the rock star sunglasses again…. So a spitfire battle, a symphony of flight and might! - So is it gonna be a kinda Dam Busters theme written for King Fishers v’s Jacamar’s ? Guess I’ll have to watch and finds out wish me luck
@ArtmanBass 4 ай бұрын
Nice comparison of the two libraries from Spitfire! I appreciate your sample library reviews. A long time ago I purchased Spitfire Studio Strings - any thoughts or former reviews of that library7?
@StevBarretMusic 4 ай бұрын
I like a lot your vibes !
@jaywoelfel9228 4 ай бұрын
I really like BBC PRO, which I got awhile ago. The only thing I find is some of the smaller voices, like the harp and celeste for instance, of BBC has some rumble and unwanted room noise in them, perhaps even traffic noise?? And when you add a couple of mics together this type of thing can add up to be distracting. Spitfire has always seemed to me to make you use the modwheel more than I'd like on any long notes. The BBC PRO strings are pretty great, you can a little additional verb from wherever you like outside of Spitfire if/when you need it.
@design1569 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this informative and (as always!) humor- and energy-filled video! Mainly for money reasons, I'll buy BBCSO (I can buy BBC core today on sale for $269, vs $498 for SSO). Also, since I have little to no experience with orchestration, SSO has a bit too much choice (there's a TED Talk by psychologist Barry Schwartz on the downside of too much choice if that is of interest). Another reason that I'm going with BBC is that it's easier to add reverb to BBC than it is to remove reverb from SSO!
@5ammy13 4 ай бұрын
Guy, you had BBCSO Core open when you loaded the French Horns, which is why when you shifted to the Pro version you didn't see the mutes. You could either have gone to the articulation selection option or have reloaded the the French Horns from the Pro version. The FH and Brass do come with mutes 😃
@saalasruokangas4206 4 ай бұрын
Core also has mutes! Something else went wrong there 🤔
@alexpapas99 4 ай бұрын
Like holyyyy.... I was just thinking of s comparison between these two...
@bobloomis246 4 ай бұрын
Guy, what happened to your 'game changing' NI MK3? Back to the Arturia or are you using all of them. Wondering because I'm thinking about a new board and trying to decide. Great vid as always!
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
Thats a 61 note keyboard I use with my protable rig - I havent got the Mk3 S88 yet
@Eye1hoe 4 ай бұрын
Recently NI has had frequent problems with their software, either bugs or weird design mistakes. I recommend a keyboard that is fully functional on its own without requiring a host app on your computer like NI's things do.
@bobloomis246 4 ай бұрын
Yup. That's what I was digging for, but it sounds like Guy is still satisfied with the 61. I run Kontakt 6 and have had zero problems but hear others are running into issues with Kontakt 7 and NI boards. Maybe I just need to stand pat for now.@@Eye1hoe
@cinematic_monkey 4 ай бұрын
Glad I inspired You to do that one.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
Thank you :)
@signumscaler 4 ай бұрын
Where can we download the finished music. It sounds amazing.
@stevem-h3562 4 ай бұрын
I've not long invested in BBCSO Core.....liking it a lot.....
@CraigRodmellMusic 4 ай бұрын
I've had Core for about 18 months now, and loving it. Very good value.
@HARMONYWAVEmarko 4 ай бұрын
Bless you!
@paul_meulemans 4 ай бұрын
I have both. Only have to do the upgrade of the Symphonic Symphony . It's only 99,- for me. :-)
@TrevorWesleyOfficial 2 ай бұрын
Man! you are amazing bro!
@Julzantoine 4 ай бұрын
Hi Guy! Jules from TSE here… nice demonstration, thank you! I have a question though : did you set all the appropriate tracks delay so that everything blends together ? Or do you don’t care about it because you play so much by hand? Or because it is a quick sketch, you would simply clean up the whole thing afterwards (or give it to Brad 😆) ?
@league6 4 ай бұрын
This is by far the best demo of the two libraries I've seen! It was really enjoyable and so informative. SSO with the ambient reverb of Air Lyndhurst seems to have quite a tail to it, which is no doubt suited to epic blockbuster orchestrations, but I guess you can't remove it if you wanted to replace it with something else. I was just thinking, what would you do if a professional mixing engineer wanted totally dry stems from you??
@dirtyandnasty9011 4 ай бұрын
If he wants totaly dry stems when your samples were recorded at lyndhurst you should probably question the "engineer", not the samples. Mix the close mics higher if you like your mix more "in your face" but it is a waste to delete the room and add a reverb later imho.
@Morkai101 4 ай бұрын
Do you think the performance patches in SSO are worth the price? Quite like the idea of loading up one patch that works without key switches?
@JudgeFredd Ай бұрын
Great video
@NickWendelsGuitarLessons 4 ай бұрын
Hey Guy, Nick from the MA PMC. What about 'Swam' by Stefano Lucato. It's the latest Audio Modeling software. How do you think about this plugin? It is 500 dollars and seems on the video's from Namm 24 really impressive!
@ianriddle9502 4 ай бұрын
Great video as always Guy. Think the Symphony sounds better than the BBC. Bought the BBC Core last month on offer. And being a hobbyist can't really justify buying the Symphony. Will have to wait for Black Friday 🙂. Think the music escaped from Hogwarts🤣.
@dogukanseren 4 ай бұрын
Hello, first of all, thank you for the video. Can SSO be used in Kontakt 6 as well? 🤔
@maleake56 4 ай бұрын
No, the original version can, of course, but this updated release requires Kontakt 7, though you can use the free version.
@markbutcher4100 4 ай бұрын
I wonder if an upgrade of bbc core to pro might price drop. But I might need another Ssd even more ram… and so it goes
@craigmoran893 3 ай бұрын
When you changed sunglasses, i subscribed.
@BackSlashJvb125 Ай бұрын
i loves Guys excitement over new libraries
@garymagnusen6500 4 ай бұрын
Did you get rid of your NI Kontrol keyboard?
@anatomicallymodernhuman5175 4 ай бұрын
It's in his other studio. Video about it a few months back.
@craigturb 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Guy! If I already have BBCSO Core, would I get more value from upgrading to Pro? Or buying SSO instead?
@JonahTrojek 4 ай бұрын
Hi, I am now 18 and I am thinking about the music composing carreer, bcs I started playing piano at 7 yo and started "writting" music when I was like 15. Now I am looking for some projects or just ways to practice scoring for videos/films, but I cant seem to find anything. Is there anyway to practice scoring when you are not yet proffesional enought to work on a REAl works? And one more question. Is it worth to go to collage for bachelor's degree in music? or just study something more reliable and than get Masters in music composing? Ty for any answers
@dbmusicproductions9181 4 ай бұрын
There are multiple paths and the one that takes you the furthest is the correct path. It depends upon you. I highly recommend choosing something that makes you work the most at what you want to do. If you hope to be a composer, go straight into composing. The right university would be a fine choice.
@therealmikeward 4 ай бұрын
If it's your passion, studying music is never a bad move. If doing it at college is too much of a stretch, you don't have to go that route. I'm on a Master's currently with Guy and the team at Thinkspace and it's really great. My undergrad was computer science, but I have many years of musical experience in lieu of an undergrad music degree. To your specific point, two bits of immediate advice: check out The Cue Tube for some films to score, also look out for scoring competitions, they're great to practice; and practice playing with other people as much as you can. Join bands, groups, orchestras, whatever you can find. It's a great way of learning how music "works". Good luck!
@therealmikeward 4 ай бұрын
Oh, the Thinkspace short courses are good too. Worth checking out!
@GARYCOLEIV 4 ай бұрын
Just wondering if you are no longer using your NI MARK 2 - S88 keyboard?
@user-eh1vp3ev3c 4 ай бұрын
I really leaned into Spitfire's questionable product pricing/discontinuances over the last few years, but they've really proved me wrong in the past year. Bringing back all these classics at affordable prices, rather than discontinuing things and offering half baked versions for Originals (I like originals, but it shouldn't be the only offering of these legendary products). They've really shaped up and expressed a desire to remain competitive. I'd imagine they may even be working on some sort of subscription based service as well. So warm and inviting, so Spitfire!
@magicmulder 4 ай бұрын
Couldn't really warm up to the Spitfire releases except Kepler Orchestra which I somehow liked. My fave orchestras are Best Service/Sonuscore The Orchestra 3 and Symphobia 3.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
Project sam are mighty - their new Lineage Percussion is great
@magicmulder 4 ай бұрын
@@ThinkSpaceEducation Thanks I'm gonna check it out. Cheers!
@dare2win215 4 ай бұрын
I've been primarily an 8Dio user for years with Audio Modeling for solo/smaller sections. Is Spitfire superior, or is it another instance of taste?
@Lol4you22 4 ай бұрын
Once the basson lines came in this reminded me of Elfman's original Batman theme.
@Paszczakoformis 4 ай бұрын
Someday you could try out audio modeling SWAM instruments, if you didn't already. They are not sampled instruments but still sound nice. From what I know generally speaking they are modelled in real time by cpu, work similar like synthesisers. Best to use with expression pedal or those funny breath controllers. I don't think those instruments can replace great sampled libraries, but for solos, fast legatos, or music such like jazz for example work pretty good. Give them a try someday because I'm curious what you will come up with. 🙂
@MsJovanijovani 4 ай бұрын
Hello to you, I have a small question if you allow. As someone who wishes to compose grand orchestral music for opera, film, or video games in the style of Hans Zimmer or John Williams, which orchestra would be most suitable between the BBC Core Orchestra and the Spitfire Symphonic Orchestra? To provide further guidance, I am ideally looking for an orchestra equipped with the greatest number of articulations and instruments, with a soft and warm sound for emotional music, featuring solo instruments that sound good and realistic. This orchestra will be paired with the Metropolis Ark One from Orchestral Tools to add the power it might lack during climactic moments. Thank you in advance for your response, and best wishes! 🎶
@cgcohen01 3 ай бұрын
For large cinematic sound, most people recommend Albion One, although it only has ensembles which make the arrange the chords for you, so you lack voicing choices.
@SamAllenComposer 4 ай бұрын
You gotta stop convincing me to buy more libraries Guy! ha
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
Ha! Sorry
@ramonmff5158 4 ай бұрын
You made the video we all imagined in our heads 😂
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
HA! Well never say I dont respond to comments!
@ramonmff5158 4 ай бұрын
@@ThinkSpaceEducation sir, I would never! 😉
@lovelymikeb 4 ай бұрын
How come the Harp is so "present" in that mix - I always lose the Harp when it is playing with almost anything else.....?!
@muiscman807 4 ай бұрын
That's two videos you have done on this library Guy and have not mentioned the 345 gig download...
@rafaelhernandez5550 Ай бұрын
All good and now my question why Spitfire not have divisi strings? Thanks
@brentmarquez9057 2 ай бұрын
Can someone explain to me what Kontakt is? I thought it was another library at first, but I hear people talking about it as if it is some kind of base tool or plugin(?) or something that you use with another library. As I'm researching VSTs, I keep seeing it mentioned sometimes used with libraries, sometimes without and I'm confused on whether it's needed, when to incorporate or use it and what it's for. I've heard it called a "player" now - what is that and what is the difference between that and say a DAW?
@MikeSheehan727 2 ай бұрын
Kontakt is a plugin by Native Instruments for running sample libraries and sample-based virtual instruments. So all Spitfire libraries (unless they have their own plugin, which some do) run in Kontakt. There is a free version called Kontakt player, which is just a more limited version of the plugin. but for many sample libraries you do need the full version of Kontakt. so both Kontakt and Kontakt Player are plugins, but not a DAW in itself.
@brentmarquez9057 2 ай бұрын
@@MikeSheehan727 thanks. Looking into this whole world a bit more, it seems like I need the free version of Kontakt to use some Spitfire libs like Symphony Orchestra, but BBCSO comes with it's own player apparently. So I guess a "player" is some kind of software that the DAW needs to convert sample information into audio signal.
@DennisCaunce 4 ай бұрын
I prefer BBCSO (pro), but I have to say - at this price point, I'm very temped to grab SSO as a backup orchestra!
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
Both is a great option if you can afford it
@daviddas 4 ай бұрын
Request: remove the colons in your time stamps (in your description field) so that KZfaq can properly index the chapters.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
Ah - really?
@thurrafork 4 ай бұрын
Ooh, I'm very curious about this SSO deal! I have HOOPUS - which is good, but sometimes a bit of a struggle to get the sound I want. Obviously combining things gives new opportunities, but, for a traditional orchestral sound (dense orchestrations like JW), which would you say is the better single library: HOOPUS or this rereleased SSO?
@user-vp9ub1fm8y 4 ай бұрын
OPUS is 1st grade orchesta for instant Hollywood sound.You can not compare these libraries.Opus is more powerfull,detailed and sound.
@thurrafork 4 ай бұрын
@@user-vp9ub1fm8y Yeah, HOOPUS is great, and certainly powerful and detailed, and yet I often get the impression that some pros much prefer SSO. Hmmmm.
@user-vp9ub1fm8y 4 ай бұрын
@@thurrafork it gives diferent flavour to your sound
@TalmoTheSell 4 ай бұрын
I really like the sound and tone of HOOPUS, but it’s such a pain to program and it’s hard to get the sound you want, in my personal experience. I’m also not really much of a spitfire guy, but in general I’ve had better experiences with spitfire. Spitfire also has better legatos and Air Lyndhurst is awesome, which would work great for JW style scores
@GlennBroadway 4 ай бұрын
Interesting that you still instinctively spin your wedding ring with your right hand, even when you’re not wearing it!
@craigturb 4 ай бұрын
Can you just add a reverb plugin to BBCSO to make it sound like SSO?
@braunhausmedia 4 ай бұрын
Isn't it nice to have a drier choice? Allows you more focus, I think. Though I do prefer Kontakt instruments.
@StephSancia 4 ай бұрын
I bought the Spitfire Cinematic ORIGINALS 2 weeks ago and I think the SPITFIRE ORIGINALS Collection is Beautiful
@StephSancia 4 ай бұрын
PS, I see you have an Arturia keyboard. I so wish I'd have bought one instead of my S61 Mk2 from Germany
@jammypockets606 4 ай бұрын
Wasn't the main difference between the celests just the mic position?
@C_F_M 4 ай бұрын
I had a feeling you would do this video when the top comment on the last was basically "but BBCSO exists" 😂
@ianai787 4 ай бұрын
Is there a way I could use my mouse for strings ? By moving it back and forth ?
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
You mean instead of the mod wheel? You can use a pencil tool and draw controller data in - that works
@ianai787 4 ай бұрын
@@ThinkSpaceEducation hmmm… I really just wanna be able to do it with a midi and my mouse. I don’t think I’m at a buying a keyboard stage yet, I’ll consider a pencil.
@9stitchesimages268 4 ай бұрын
The pencil tool referred to is a tool in your DAW that you can draw notes and automation (etc) in with. And yes you can use it with a mouse. Check the documentation that came with your recording software.
@skyproductionz2 4 ай бұрын
What about Abbey Road Orchestral Foundations? It seems that it disappeared with the Abbey Road Orchestra
@MartinJG100 4 ай бұрын
Think I will wait for the 50% sale on Spitfire Symphony.... :)
@Markusnokio 4 ай бұрын
I currently have bbc core and I'm 50/50 on witch one to get. Bbc pro or sso?
@kubapianoYT 4 ай бұрын
Hello, I am curious which you decided to go for? And also if you went for SSO - can you compare them? Which one sounds more real? And which one is easier to use?
@Markusnokio 4 ай бұрын
@@kubapianoYT I haven't still decided witch one to get. and I started to think that maybe it would be more beneficial to get specific libraries like solo strings etc.
@kubapianoYT 4 ай бұрын
@@Markusnokio yes, I am thinking the same, because I already have Spitfire Studio Strings Pro, which sound similar to the strings available in SSO but - the performance mode is very tempting, it could make the template smaller (I used to put every articulation in separate track because I hate keyswitches)
@-Deena. 4 ай бұрын
As of 17/03/24 the Spitfire Symphony Orchestra is now back at the full price of £499. Damn. I'm so annoyed I missed the discount. I guess it's turn the heating off for two months time 😁
@talnomix3164 4 ай бұрын
For me, SSO is the clear Winner, better Legato patches and the brass has a wider dynamic range and bite for epic themes like stat wars, clear winner for me
@ridgero 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Guy! You're videos are always a pleasure :) Don't you have issues with Kontakt 7 and the GUI size of SSO? I have to scroll down & up all the time. And the default view of Kontakt 7 is so annoying and ugly, I can't change it.
@ThinkSpaceEducation 4 ай бұрын
Not often - I do have an issue where the UI flickers on a second monitor but nothing serious
@ClassicCaleb 4 ай бұрын
Overall I generally like Kontakt, but noticed on a 4k monitor the GUI for SSO doesn't seem to scale well and is very tiny indeed.
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