That African Country better start offering marriage subsidies then😂.

This is a good conversation. The only thing it is missing is the wisdom of a elder who will answer the questions on marriage from it's African origin and the roles of each partner.

There’s only 2 scenarios that being with a woman makes sense: Either the man pays for everything in exchange for someone who is essentially a maid, chef, bed-warmer, or they act as equals and both pay their shared costs, making both of their lives easier and less stressful. Many women don’t seem to agree to either. That’s the problem.

Oshay is on point! Bride price is a SCAM. You can't pay top dollar for a high mileage used car, when you can lease the latest rides without costly long-term contracts, maintenance headaches, and crazy value depreciation. You just want to ride and get back to living your life.

Yesterday my client joined my business development program because she saw how difficult it was for her husband to take care of her and the children and wanted to ease his suffering. Another student she began working at a back breaking minimum wage job so her husband could join and learn cybersecurity and get out of trucking. There are women out there that are willing to sacrifice to build _with_ a man.

The purpose or “value” in a bride price comes into play when me and my wife raise a young women to 1. Be a virgin 2. Teach her life skills like home managment, money managment. 3. How to cook. Proper nutrition 4. How to rear children how to teach them. Show them how to become assets to a community. 5. How to respect a man. To know when to interject and know when to keep silent. I can go on and on. But once that os accomplished. Any man in his right mind would pay any price to get the opportunity to wed my daughter.

There's no such thing as a GOOD woman, what matters is, is she good to ME??? A woman treats a man according to how much she value him🙌 🔥

Jonita, Rachel and Kojani are correct: It doesn't have to make dollars, but it MUST make sense. Oshay is also correct: A woman must be fit, feminine and inspirational - possessing those, among other characteristics.

Marriage is everything. Strong families is what’s needed,fornication is a sin!!

What's the old adage? "Why buy the cow, when you can get the milk for free?" Outa Brian - get REAL. No woman in her right mind wouldn't become intimate with a male, without having some assurance that he will provide for any children and for her.

Lets be honest marriage doesn't benefit men

Males and Females should First become Platonic Friends and Leave Sex Off The Table. When Men and Women don't KNOW, LIKE or UNDERSTAND each other a Romantic relationship is impossible. Men and Women shouldn't Pretend to be in a Marriage when there are NO Benefits of Marriage.💀💔🥀

I've been watching this podcast for about two months and just from the tenors of this conversation it seems that the people in this section of the continent are just as lost as we are over here in the west.

But this Outta Brian guy can't express his points very well. Sometimes, i find his submissions, either childish or the topics, are beyond his age or he is not just articulated. Yeah yeah😅

There's a reason marriage is scary for men and it isn't about being afraid of women. Look at the stats for divorce for women in comparison to men in the US for example, and look at who usually takes the greater half of the money. I believe men have a couple responsibilities to own up to as men socially, a couple torches that need to be rekindled and carried without complaint, if you will. Men need to man up, but they do have a valid reason to not want to just nose dive into marriage, and that should be acknowledged by women and not emotionally but impartially, and logically reasoned about - Because marriage dwindling is a threat to your human rights, you can't see it past your nose now but that's literally part of a plan to destabilize nations. Africa is the biggest producer of children in the world bro. Please stop with the dilly dallying and figure out a solution with your Woman (or if you're a Woman, with your Man). Time is of the essence. It isn't about defending your gender, it's about not being conquered by the adversary. There has to be a mutual agreement to overcome this sort of mentality or things will get worse - If Africa becomes like the West there isn't going to be anywhere else for you to run to. Black Man and Woman everywhere, its time to grow up. Don't choose a partner out of ego, truly get to know someone out of genuine interest. Edit: This is under presumption the man is in good faith, I don't speak for abusers

Marriage is too much of a one-sided financial burden for the men, and there's too much negative risk.If you ain't a virgin, I won't pay no bride price, or if your family isn't on equal financial footing, no bride price. No virgin, no bride price

When YOUNG women are ready to be wives men will return to the table. No use in a old 35+ year old woman who's been around the block twice and is dragging someone elses kid around to now see you as valuable. Men are pretty happy without the old ball and chain.

I love you, Racheal. Your opinions are always so brutally honest. Such an intelligent being. Your views always stands out from the rest. Well said, dearest.

The more pure the women the more men see them as valuable. If she is a virgin, polite, traditional, men will marry them.

You're a girlfriend before you move in together. Once you're living together, you're wifey. Marriage is what makes you a wife.

Jonita please go heal sweetheart....

Great stream. Sad that marriage in Uganda is not as popular as it once was. Wowww😢

"Stop dating for free". Wow! What a choice of words.

Very respectable conversation ❤ accountability

Oshay keep going! 👏🏾

Kuhani is a warrior. Do not cross her 😂.

Where i come from its marriage in the church that people do not do like before. People are encline to do more and more traditional marriage. And thats the most important here.

Racheal often come with brilliant contributions. She is an intelligent babe and the control in her voice is penetrative ❤❤❤

Black people around the world are taking on the negative aspects of Black American Culture. We have to keep standards and morals and look at the positive traits of our different cultures not the destructive aspects

They are cohabitant, but she’s definitely not there for nothing. He’s paying all of the bills, even if they are not legally married. So she definitely have a reason for being there even if she is not legally married I hate when women say they get nothing out of being in a relationship If it don’t come with a marriage. But if you wasn’t getting nothing, you wouldn’t be in the relationship.

Great 👍 👌 show! I agree😊

Husband Price LOL ...

Cohabiting should be considered pre marriage ,it is in no way a problem to society

Rachel is intelligent and on point

I've watched some of your programs ....but not satisfied yet with the way you guys answers questions.

OSHAY - Why don't you have channel memberships enabled???

U r definitely right 😊

Women do not hold the same value today. Why would i pay bride price for a non virgin. Also why would I pay half just because she's been there. Thats like saying i start a business and I give my friends shares just because they been there. Smh

That young lady host should download everything O'shea just said. I feel exactly the same about Ugandan women.

This is to the two (2) men sitting on the couch…. 1. How many women have you ran around the block with? 2. What age did you start? Be honest.

I live in a Turkish Muslim community and marriage is clearly a top priority to them....and this is how they have a strong voice as a group here in Germany. Their community is led by strong proud principled males. And they have maintained their cultural integrity, African men have failed, black men have failed. Alot of talk and the internet has become an echo chamber for the black mans embarrassing shortcomings.

What Khuhani said is what most modern women say when it comes to "she's been supportive so she should get half". Reality is that most women that get half aren't there from the beginning, they just find the guy AFTER he became well-established and try to take half of his stuff. That should NEVER be allowed, because it's gonna open the door to the other one. Don't get me wrong, she should get a reasonable amount that they can both negotiate and get to terms with, but never half.

Good discussions. Marriage to FAMILY to NATION building. It is everyone’s responsibility to BUILD STRONG HEALTHY MORALLY UPRIGHT FAMILIES. Bottom line. Its not about the self. FYI, grandma said, “ don’t give the milk if you want him to buy the cow”! He won’t!! Smh!

The Divorce rate in that country is less than 4 percent. I do have a make up artist friend thats always booked every weekend to work on the ladies getting married.

Oshay dropped bombs of truth on this show that the women could not even comment on.

Oshay is dropping bars. I am not bashing women, but what is the benefit of getting married if I've already done all of the work. You ever heard of a move-in ready apartment/ just bring your suitcase? That is the person that I aspire to be. Cooking and cleaning has it's value and it should be appreciated, like all acts of service to your significant other, but does that equate to half of what's in place before you arrive? I enjoy doing those things, so my spouse will not be carrying those responsibilities on her own. What's the benefit of marriage? Especially if it's with a modern woman who wants to be my competition and refuses to listen, not to me, but to what's logical because it's coming from me.

Teach young lady

You need strong families to build strong communities it’s just that simple….

Brian is hilarious 😂

co-habitating and wanting to put milage on the woman while doing so too...

"Dating for free"...all three women talked about money. Then the host said it is not just monetary. Do they know how they sound? He was right. Just be upfront about the cost. "Fair exchange is no robbery".

It is really hard to choose I wife from different African countries because I would say the majority of women know the duties of being a wife in Africa women are trained and I agree with bride price this is our tradition african women living in African are not even like the african women in the west now they have become in the west arrogant

If you want it you can have it, PUT A RING ON IT. Why give a man the best of yourself without the valuable consideration of marriage with all rights and privileges including generational benefits for the children?

There are many research studies showing the negative side effects of cohabitation...children suffer the most. Westerners already see it. Africans will see it when it becomes prominent. Africans have bride price, india has dowry, and muslims have Mehr...its a setting expectations the lady is getting assurance. The success rate depends on standards of the country. Marriage is responsibility and investment of future. If Cohabitation get same protections as marriage than the marriage lose value. Currently only marriage comes with protections and family support that cohabiting does not provide.

I want to understand what it means to get married for the sake of sacrificing for the community.

Bride price is not buying. It is compensating parents for raising the child well and is used to build relationships with in laws and combine the family. Bride Price should b3 set lower nowadays. When Zulus had lots of cows it was 10 cows. Now, it should be 2 cows as one cow is $1,000 - that is a lot of money. And, maybe, one should be a calf = $500 - $800. It is NB but we dont buy women.

Oehayy should leave his American mentality in America. We don’t date in Africa it’s not our culture nor part of Islam/Christianity.

They don't want cohabitation because men can make a better decision on marriage once they can find out more about them. Habits etc.

Some women just think their presence and being cute is worth a man monthly salary for the rest of her life

Can yall please make a video on men paying bride price? For the families that require bride price do they're daughters maintain their v card?

You knew she was going to deflect.

Cohabitation.😮 How does it profit a man? He still paying the bills as if he was married. Yall not roommates if she isn't paying half the rent and bills.

Those of you who claim/profess that you are genuine followers of Jesus Christ already have your solution in the Holy Bible and it states in 2 Corinthians 6: 14-18 ; do not be unequally yoked/tied to an unbeliever of your faith or expect to have Satan and Jesus at war in your home and no peace . Both man/woman must first submit to God/Jesus and resist the inner evils of temptations to hurt/damage your partner/home . Follow Christ young people regardless of culture and you will never regret it because Christ transcends all cultures of man . Peace Fam. .

the problem is the generalised disdain of black men for black women. Oshay is clearly looking in the wrong places for a decent woman.

It's not cohabiting; it's cohabitating...

5:42 Khuhani is talking like cooking food is worth half your net worth, let's be real. Stupid feminist logic.

Oshay D Jackson / Kevin Samuels 😅

The major pillar for the success of Indians no matter where they live on the planet is arranged marriages. That is why their children succeed in school and in Adulthood. In listening to Oshay I would be stunned if he finds a wife. If African men follow in the footsteps of the black western male their families will resemble the shatterness of Black American families in 30 to 50 years. The greatest pillars black African men and women have to beat off the economic failure the West had planned for them is to maintain and build on the family which marriage is the bedrock and holds it together.

Next topic "Does Brideprice Facilitate Poverty in Africa?!"

It's sad but I believe most of Africa will follow in the same footsteps as the West. Men are tired of getting their assets stolen and women do not add any good points to get married unless it benefits them and wants the government to step in and force you to marry them. Now a concept is taking root to leave these countries with bad laws & prospects and go to more accommodating countries. With that move brings money and infrastructure so women need to get on the program or get left behind to suffer.

We have papers/license on everything we own. Why not on our spouse??

Muslims pay mahr, not brideprice.wife is not expected to work. And muslim gets to drive a new car, no girlfriend, no co habiting.

What do men actually expect from a wife? As in what should she be in your life?

...modern life dictates modern thought dictates modern life dictates modern thought dictates... It's not alway a North, East, South, West philosophy versus one another.

No sex before marriage means no spending money until marriage

Man should protect and provide for their wife’s PERIOD!

Jonita's last statement, "love is not going to do shit for you." Ok, so what's the point in marriage? Is it purely transactional without love? I would think two people who enter into a marriage would have some feeling of love toward one another. So, I think that statement was purely from an emotional place. Maybe Jonita doesn't believe in love? Just a rhetorical question. I've never been married. I've been the best man or groomsman at many wedding, but never married. For me, marriage is a serious investment. Two people must be in love with one another and build a covenant to traverse a path of unity and commitment. Each person should bring value to the marriage, and not looking for anything superficial. For instance, if a woman is looking to be married only for the material reward, the marriage will dry and break. If the man is in the marriage, because he has a showpiece, the marriage will dry and break. It has to go beyond looks and wealth, and "what he/she can do for me." You both really have to see genuine value in one another. I've never taken time to appreciate the relationships I've been in, and some of them , I knew early, will not last long. Also, I've never lived with a woman, and I never had any of my girlfriends live with me. I am seriously considering marriage now, but the environment in which we live has made me skeptical. Most women watch toxic Instagram and youtube videos and want to replicate what they see. They watch all the superficial and damaging drama on reality television and think their life will emulate what they view. Many perceptions of relationships have been damaged by social media, because what we see on these platforms are purely for entertainment and are not what we want to build off of in our relationships. I find women to be looking for a "payoff" when I engage them. I literally had a sistah tell me her tastes are very high. Ok, that seems nice, but if I can't meet her tastes, then I guess that is a major disqualifier. Never mind qualities which will make me a desirable choice. As for the men, many are looking for dime pieces and show pieces, sistahs to show off in public. In both cases, I am not generalizing, but among the male and female groups, there are many who are looking for all the wrong reasons. Bottom line is that, if love don't mean shit (according to Jonita), then don't waste anyone's time. Love should be a major factor in finding a soulmate. Personanlly, I want a woman to fall madly in love with me. If she can't do that, I don't want her. I can easily fall madly in love with a woman, but the qualities I look for are simple. Personality, loves to joke and laugh, enjoys new experiences, respectful, generous, beautiful inside and out, great in conversation, share innovative thoughts, selfless, Pan-African in mindset, natural, and just an amazing person to be with. Honestly, these things alone will blow my mind. I haven't even mentioned anything physical. Too many people play games and are just looking for "what I can get out of this person." If that is the objective, it will not last. Great conversation...

This mf'er Oshay felt like preaching today....and I'm here for it amen my brother dez gotdam women be straight up full of shit living in lala land loving how they want but not how is required! I still want Rachel tho 😘

Sounds like excuses to not practice self control. It takes work for 2 people in a relationship; playing the field is easy fulfills their lust.

Dowry and expensive marriage ceremonies is impoverishing newly weds.

Looking in the comments all I see is fear , so many Men living in fear……

Do men in Africa have to pay when going out and when co habing so who is eating lunch for free.

If you're cohabiting, why wouldn't you clean the home you're living in??? 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️

It seems that ,getting a wife from Africa it is just as bad as America. This does not inspire confidence.

My man with the Puma hat is a reasonable guy.

If I give her half , she has to help me make money but we all know they spend your money more than help you make money so 50% is crazy.

Marriage is a construct of society, not nature. Society has moved beyond marriage thanks to technology. You don't need children to grow your land, you don't need land for survival. You don't need to be a wife to gain inheritance, that is what wills are for. Marriage is archaic in the same way celibacy for priests is archaic. The minute women decided their role to men wasn't the be their subordinate, was the same moment men were free from the yoke of marriage. You can't say you want a man to be responsible for you and then at the same moment say you are for yourself. This is what societal evolution looks like.

😂😂did Rachel just talk for 20min about the importance of marriage and then at the say she personally doesnt want to be married 😂 this is a clear example of the problem. Women also want to eat for free, but dont want to admit.

That "she's been supporting you, so she deserves half" argument is weak. Building an empire isn't easy, a woman standing by you doesn't equate to helping build an empire. A wife should support, not support with an expectation of getting half of something she did not build. That's a westernised talking point.

Feminism is so exhausting. Do they even listen to themselves when they talk? Its like listening to kids cry about having responsibilities. The "why do i have to clean up. Why do i have to take care of kids while you go slave for most of the day and pay all the bills that keep me and the family in luxury." They're so out of touch with reality

Wifely duties?? Half don't know what those are and the other half don't do them very well. My mother taught all of her sons those so called wifely duties and we do them better than most. Because as she use to explain to us..." I don't know what type of nappy haired girl you might marry that their mother taught them nothing and someone needs to be able to do something. And I've seen this ring true more often than not in these newer times and I'm touching 60.

Cohabitation is a way of splitting living costs in an expensive world. It's very practical. If people would set aside their romantic ideas and think practical for a moment....

WOULD YOU CO HABITATE WITH ANY MAN BEFORE GETTING MARRIED TO THEM ❤? JOANITA ❤?

Marriage is a legal action on paper and under law to announce your commitment to one another to the public and before God. For the women marriage states that she is your woman only and is willing to work together to build a righteous household for the community and future generations. For men marriage is stating that under God's guidance he will protect, building a legacy and holding on to traditional ways for his wife and children.

I think moving in together is good because you don’t really know a person until you stay with them. That’s just my opinion. I can elaborate more but I’ll keep it simple

Surely marriage is useless for men marrying a modern women.

Marriage is right if there is a plan to have children. It is OK to shackle until you produce a baby and if there is a breakup the one who will take care of the child should be compensated be it should be to help the child eat live under a roof and be schooled,but if no child I say we as adults should not be obligated to take care of the other partner. If we are roommates with pleasurable habits to each other why do I owe you for living with you unless you evict them for no good reason,and not just split up.

these african brothas are smart and refuse to sign the robery document that can cost him 50% of everything. its not worth it.

Will she get half? Why is that the question? Crazy. Also that would depend on who is divorcing who. Women always waiting for a half.

Problem IS: Most Women do not know what they need to have to get the attention of the MEN they are focused on. GARY - The Garden contractor may be below your standard; BUT, He earns over $100 K, through his Lawn contracting business. You think and say "He is just a Gardener": Until - Ms. World steps in and then you cry.