This amazing game ruined a genre for me

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Eljay

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Күн бұрын

"Wizard Of Legend really makes you feel like a Wizard" - IGN probably
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0:00 Why Roguelites Kinda Suck
0:36 How Wizard Of Legend solves boring repetitive combat
2:40 Why Wizard Of Legend has perfectly balanced combat
4:29 Why Roguelites Struggle With Meta Progression
5:31 Why Roguelites are rarely replayed years later
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Title: This amazing game ruined Roguelites for me - Wizard of Legend
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@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere 2 ай бұрын
Sorry this is 2 weeks between videos! I'd love to say I have an excuse... so yeah, just assume I do have a good one
@jachetugaming9840
@jachetugaming9840 Ай бұрын
Your channel is exactly what I have been looking for rn, these kinds of videos are right up my alley, undiscovered gems 💎 ✨
@LuckyNoodleFox
@LuckyNoodleFox Ай бұрын
Finally, a reason to play a game hidden in my steam library
@shinyuta
@shinyuta Ай бұрын
I literally have it in my library and I don't remember buying it lol. Maybe it was part of a humble bundle
@JustANyanCat
@JustANyanCat Ай бұрын
@@shinyuta Wait, I too have it in my library LOL
@jamesdietzen7305
@jamesdietzen7305 Ай бұрын
@@JustANyanCat me too LMAO. i agree it was probably a humble bundle tho
@Piorunes
@Piorunes Ай бұрын
@@shinyuta same :P
@yukkahiro
@yukkahiro Ай бұрын
>Roguelites kinda suck >*Shows cult of the lamb* I wonder why
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
I found the dungeon segment was counterproductive to the cult management, after a while they almost clashed. But also, it’s mostly became compared to other games in the genre it’s just lacking
@BiCuror
@BiCuror Ай бұрын
>Also shows hades >wonder why he literally showed 2 popular games, which are kinda shit at being rogulites
@kubistonek
@kubistonek Ай бұрын
@@BiCuror both literally one of the best roguelites objectively
@heysalve9753
@heysalve9753 Ай бұрын
@@BiCuror I can kinda agree on cult of the lamb. Hades is one of best games ever tho. The roguelite aspect is pretty good, the story is amazing.
@BiCuror
@BiCuror Ай бұрын
@@kubistonek, mb check definition of "objectivity"
@JoStro_
@JoStro_ Ай бұрын
the way you're describing it makes it sound like it shares a lot of elements with deckbuilder rougelikes, where a lot of the exitement comes from finding interesting and powerful synergies between a bunch of mechanics interacting with eachother. I love deckbuilding roguelikes and I feel like I miss that style of discovery in more action focused roguelikes, so this sounds super interesting to me.
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
It can be like that! I think the fun for me is mastering the combat, but part of that is also getting a new spell mid dungeon on the fly and suddenly you’re adapting your entire fighting style to it.
@ryanm6004
@ryanm6004 Ай бұрын
Go try it, I've been playing it for years now and it's still my favorite roguelike of all time despite having extensively played dozens of games in the genre and basically every subgenre. Finding a cursed relic that synergizes with the rest of your build perfectly in this game is probably the best that exact rush of excitement you're talking about gets in any roguelike I've played. Noita is another one that does that really well with its wand crafting system.
@tyler403
@tyler403 Ай бұрын
The thing with deck builders is that sometimes you have to use a certain meta strat to win, like high ascensions in slay the spire, but with this game you can run literally anything and win
@sneeringzorbone
@sneeringzorbone Ай бұрын
​@EljayIsHere Have you ever tried enter the gungeon? It seems to have similar play style with finding guns throughout the floors of the dungeon. The combat is challenging, but also shares the start of the room aspect where you can dodge to assess how to go about clearing it. The learning curve has a similar aspect where you can die a bunch until something clicks and you start understanding how to play. Sorry for the essay, if you haven't tried I would recommend it.
@jemm113
@jemm113 Ай бұрын
@@sneeringzorbone Yeah, Gungeon would fall into the category of really good Roguelite!
@werdfeefs7027
@werdfeefs7027 Ай бұрын
So, if you haven't played Noita... You should. Does it start out brutally hard and with limited options simply because you can't even make it past the first area? Perhaps. But as soon as you do manage to do that consistently, the wand crafting system starts letting you do some ridiculous things. Heat-seeking slime clouds, drowning the world in alcohol, miniguns that shoot exploding mushrooms, or simply firing one dinky little magic missile... Every frame. I think it would scratch a similar itch here, and once you get *good* at the game well, that's when all of a sudden it turns from what seemed like a simple roguelike into a game packed to the gills with secrets and hidden quests and parallel worlds and...
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
I was going to stream this one on the channel! Since I wasn’t sure a review would work.
@werdfeefs7027
@werdfeefs7027 Ай бұрын
@@EljayIsHere That's totally fair, it's a pretty involved game and difficult to crunch into a review. (Also, you seem pretty cool. I'm afraid I can't really watch live streams, but you've got a subscriber and I'll check out the VoD. :)
@light819
@light819 Ай бұрын
yeah noita and wizard of legend are like siblings separated at birth
@totaloof
@totaloof Ай бұрын
@@EljayIsHere It's a bit different to the other rougelites mentioned considering it's an fps but I would strongly recommend roboquest. It has meta progression like the others but you have access to the full arsenal of guns and in-run upgrades from the get-go, it's a really great game
@KillingTheMeta
@KillingTheMeta 5 күн бұрын
Noita holds a special place in my heart. What starts off as a brutal rougelite sandbox game, turns into a hardcore Finnish god simulator where your immortality is only challenged by your inability to afford a better cpu and silly pink liquid if you haven’t phased it out of reality by doing a heroic dose of psychedelic mushrooms
@ZDaisho
@ZDaisho Ай бұрын
another thing i really appreciate is the simplicity of the plot, theres no world ending threat, no apocolypse. Youre just a wizard at a yearly competition here to pick up some expirience and a shot at a chaos arcana. All the masters are supportive of you once you beat, them and its just a simple story. Those are few and far between these days.
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Dude yes this is such a good point
@mageferago
@mageferago Ай бұрын
I think Dead Cells actually does roguelite progression perfectly. For instance, the health potion upgrade, which increases the amount of potion charges you can heal from during stages, goes up from just 1 charge to 4 total. This is a HUGE upgrade and is really good because you can refill your health bar whenever you take a huge hit. Sounds broken? It's great, until you beat the first difficulty, and suddenly you can't completely refill your health flask between each stage, and as you go up in difficulty, eventually you cannot refill your health flask AT ALL during a run, leaving you with 4 charges to get you through 6 stages and 3 bosses where anything can go wrong. And that's where it forces you to improve as a player, because you can't fall back on your health to get you out of bad situations, and are significantly more punished for mistakes. Giving a player this kind of strong resource, but then taking it away in this fashion as they progress to harder difficulties, is honestly the direction I hope Wizard of Legend 2 takes, since it's targeting more tangible roguelite progression than just unlocking new spells.
@Tom-rd8dd
@Tom-rd8dd Ай бұрын
with some changes to really weak weapons and making the maps fair I think It would've been perfect and also they didn't finish the legendary affixes the finished ones are cool tho. I feel encouraged to play the optimal route every run because I might not be able to win if I go promenade or silk village/specular. Weapons like pistol and machete/twin daggers and ice bow needs a serious rework or buff
@gooseta9583
@gooseta9583 Ай бұрын
I think dead cells become a worse version of itself, whey they started that thing with collaborations. Gameplay has become less more accurate and skill based. Also balance patches harmed the game a lot
@blitzboy2934
@blitzboy2934 Ай бұрын
@@Tom-rd8ddthey’re still making all of the unique legendary affixes. There are a ton of weapons and other stuff that they need to give special aspects to
@blitzboy2934
@blitzboy2934 Ай бұрын
@@gooseta9583how did balance patches harm the game? Also, what’s wrong with the collaboration updates? I thought they were pretty cool. Sure, some of the weapons (the bat) can be busted, but they’ve been toned down a bit, but nothing is truly perfect.
@gooseta9583
@gooseta9583 Ай бұрын
@@blitzboy2934 newer balance patches made a lot of weapons much weaker, this caused that you want to play only with 2-3 types of weapons, also they aded a lot of weapons, but they are mostly weak and unplayable. Collaborations just poorly integrated to the game. That's just collaborations for collaborations and that destroys the atmosphere of the game
@malagargamer5598
@malagargamer5598 Ай бұрын
They are making a sequel! 4 player co op. Only thing i dont like is the 3d graphics. should stay pixel imo
@unfairverona
@unfairverona Ай бұрын
I enjoy the new style, reminds me of another favorite game called Ravenswatch
@rlan.0
@rlan.0 Ай бұрын
3d graphics are allowing from some beautiful lighting to be fair
@Ready_Set_Boom
@Ready_Set_Boom Ай бұрын
This game didn’t need coop. I hope it doesn’t ruin the sequel.
@LunarrWind
@LunarrWind Ай бұрын
It looks different because it's being made by an entirely different studio of developers. The original Wizard of Legend was (If I have my facts straight) made by two people. They were both 18 year old 'kids' when they made the game, and got it published via Humble Bundle. Now Humble Bundle, who I'm guessing owns the IP and rights to WoL, has brought in an entirely new dev team to make the sequel. Maybe the original guys just didn't want to make a sequel, and Humble decided to go ahead without them. I don't have anymore info on that.
@jonaut5705
@jonaut5705 Ай бұрын
@@Ready_Set_Boom I mean, I thought the multiplayer in the first game was really fun, so presumably it'll be great in the sequel too (given the other dev team makes a game as good as the first, which isn't guaranteed)
@nooruzuneel5343
@nooruzuneel5343 Ай бұрын
Not at all the quality review I expected for a video with 58 views. You're like the Scamboli review of this niche genre
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Sorry! I don’t know what that means, I know I rushed a bit on this one so the quality is lower, that’s my bad!
@nooruzuneel5343
@nooruzuneel5343 Ай бұрын
@@EljayIsHere nah I meant, such a high quality, something you see from those 500k view vids
@nooruzuneel5343
@nooruzuneel5343 Ай бұрын
@@EljayIsHere Scamboli reviews is a anime reviewer, check his edit style out, I felt similarities
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Ohhhh! Hahaha thanks! Sorry replied half asleep
@bigbackman3609
@bigbackman3609 Ай бұрын
damn same algos
@ILiekFishes
@ILiekFishes Ай бұрын
"if you meta progress to a point where you can't lose, why are you playing?" because... you up the heat to a level that you can't steamroll? because it would be overwhelming if you started with the whole mirror unlocked and a level of each pact of punishment, so instead you start with neither and are encouraged to go at your own pace, so that even if you're bad you can still feel like you're improving?
@HeartbrokenHeartshooter
@HeartbrokenHeartshooter Ай бұрын
What’s crazy is this game is so good that its sequel looks kinda crap, despite obvious love being poured into it.
@jonaut5705
@jonaut5705 Ай бұрын
i think it's mainly the absence of pixel art that makes it look more generic
@zencrystal1383
@zencrystal1383 Ай бұрын
It’s a different studio making it
@blitzboy2934
@blitzboy2934 Ай бұрын
I feel like the visuals look a little weird, but some adjustments or just getting used to it could be really nice.
@filioperibeiro6285
@filioperibeiro6285 Ай бұрын
Streets of Rogue is legit the best Roguelite I've ever played, it's mostly inspired by Deus Ex. There's alot of freedom which brings alot of replayability too. And there's mutations, which are used to modify the game however you want, also brings even more replayability. You should try Streets of Rogue if you haven't already. But you also managed to interest me on Wizard of Legends, I'll give it a try it looks very fun.
@jokerofspades-xt3bs
@jokerofspades-xt3bs Ай бұрын
Streets of Rogue is my most played game of all time (600 hours). If thats not a sign of replayability then I don't know what is
@filioperibeiro6285
@filioperibeiro6285 Ай бұрын
@@jokerofspades-xt3bs it's so much fun I can see myself replaying it a ton, I did all the achievements and now I'm trying to finish the game with every character to unlock their super ability. I can't wait for the sequel, it's not going to be a Roguelite but it looks so good.
@AWanderingSwordsman
@AWanderingSwordsman Ай бұрын
There's no better roguelike experience than wizard of legend with the pre run option to cycle your spells every few times you use them. It's an experience I wish other roguelikes would have. Having to figure out what you have and how it works on the fly constantly for all your spells is just amazing and if you ever have a truly horrible line up, it'll get swapped out pretty quickly. The game does IMO have one real issue though and that is the camera is just slightly too zoomed in making it really easy to get tagged by off screen enemies. It can't really afford to zoom out much more either so I don't know the optimal solution but it became more and more of a nuisance the better I got at the game and the more challenging things I tried to do. I hope the sequel ends up well even if it has some concerning stuff around it's development (different dev, same publisher, new artstyle). Still, I very much hope for the best for it.
@FroggyKing22
@FroggyKing22 Ай бұрын
I really like to play rouge like with my sibling, however a lot of time one of us ends up just becoming more powerful than the other. In this game I felt like we were both able to have incredibly unique playstyles without either of us being left behind.
@theadventuresofsolykos6433
@theadventuresofsolykos6433 Ай бұрын
Hmm I have this in my library frm a humble bundle sale. Might have to give it a go now. Thanks for the breakdown.
@secretzombier.8730
@secretzombier.8730 Ай бұрын
Games like cult of the lamb and hades is a rogueLITE. The difference is that a rogueLITE lets you grow in power and a rogueLIKE forces you to try different things and none of them are more overpowered than the rest. I love wizard of legend so I’m so glad someone made a video about just why it’s so good!
@beegyoshi1685
@beegyoshi1685 Ай бұрын
or if you are playing something like dead cells they are all overpowered lol
@toolazytobeoriginal4587
@toolazytobeoriginal4587 Ай бұрын
Isn't that a false dichotomy? Just because a roguelite has lasting progression doesn't mean that it can't/doesn't force you to try different things. It's just that a lot of the popular roguelites don't go as hard into synergies as some roguelikes do. I mean sure the progression can help you beat the game, but it rarely(at least when done well) is enough to just allow you to win without actually experimenting with builds. I mean dead cells is like one of the easiest examples of a roguelite that basically forces you (or at least heavily incentivizes) experimentation
@beegyoshi1685
@beegyoshi1685 Ай бұрын
@@toolazytobeoriginal4587 it kinda is? but that is the only form of progression on a roguelike unlike in a roguelite where you can get stronger each run is what they meant most likely. Doesn't seem like they conveyed it that well tho, so it is normal to misinterpret (or maybe i misinterpreted it idk man)
@jonaut5705
@jonaut5705 Ай бұрын
well, that's one interpretation, there are so goddamn many. Another big one is that roguelikes have to be turn based, for example. There's no real consensus on which is which, so the terms are generally interchangeable, with the exception being that roguelikes are generally a little closer to the actual core roguelike games (rogue, ADOM, nethack etc.), and roguelites are a little farther, usually being other concepts with some roguelike concepts thrown in like permadeath or procedural generation. but also sometimes the turn based ones are called traditional roguelikes, it's just really convoluted and it's not really worth trying to separate them for most purposes
@deebun2015
@deebun2015 Ай бұрын
Aren't roguelikes supposed to be grid based dungeon crawlers? You know... like Rogue, games like CDDA, Caves of Qud and Unreal world are all DIRECTLY inspired by Rogue, hence Rogue-"LIKE". Roguelite should be used as a broad term for games that has similarities to Rogue (Procedural generation and/or Permadeath), it'd be so dumb to improperly use the name of an ACTUAL genre just to differentiate a Roguelite that has Meta-Progression as opposed to one that has none. If that mindset was applied to ALL genre, then Minecraft would be a hack and slash, beat em' up game. I'm fine with terms and genres changing meaning over time (Like RPGs) but this one absolutely makes no sense and makes it super hard to mention Roguelike games, even the term "Traditional roguelike" is being used for Roguelite games SIMPLY because some are turn based and have some minor amount of Permadeath/Randomness.
@nottayion
@nottayion Ай бұрын
wizard of legend was my intro to roguelikes and now it’s my favorite genre 💀
@blitzboy2934
@blitzboy2934 Ай бұрын
I’ve always really liked roguelikes and roguelites. Gungeon was my first try at it, and that game is one of my favorites. I got it on switch for $15 a few years ago, and have over 350 hours on it. Also, Metroidvanias are awesome. Similar situation with Gungeon for Hollow Knight. It was my first of the genre, and I’ve got roughly 300 hours in it. Another good Metroidvania is a game called Worldless on steam, and it’s stupidly good for no reason.
@psychicchicken5263
@psychicchicken5263 Ай бұрын
You should try Crypt of the Necrodancer, the progression is super fast and skill-based, in fact, pretty much everything in the game happens very quickly if you're skilled enough. There's also a *ton* of run variety with different characters, modes, multiplayer, mods, etc. And the characters all feel like separate adventures rather than just changing an attack or whatever.
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
I really want too! I hear it got a massive update too?
@psychicchicken5263
@psychicchicken5263 Ай бұрын
@@EljayIsHere Yeah, the Synchrony DLC added new characters, enemies, items, a new item type, online multiplayer, better mod support, cross-platform, even cross-platform mods, the list just goes on and on...
@PKMono
@PKMono Ай бұрын
You as good as lost me the moment you showed an upgraded Hades weapon as an example of "bad roguelike upgrades". You really lost me when 5sec later you showed a game that dumps everything on you from second one as "good game design". Don't get me wrong, you make some good points throughout the video, but so many other weird design decisions that would personally REALLY urk me you swept under the rug.
@wowdude5056
@wowdude5056 Ай бұрын
As someone who's played hades 1 and is currently in love with Hades 2 and has sunk 10 hours into it over three days, even I agree that Hades/hades 2 weapons are lack luster compared to other games. But that's ok!! Because hades is over all a story based game so it's not an issue. Which is why if you're looking for super big build variety and literal infinite combos, then you gotta pick up this game when it's on sale. Definitely worth the 5-7$ it cost
@sapnavora6834
@sapnavora6834 Ай бұрын
I don’t think he meant that hades had bad weapon upgrades I think he just used it as b-roll
@Drakkenlordz5419
@Drakkenlordz5419 Ай бұрын
Wa wa wa
@Ansalion
@Ansalion Ай бұрын
He's not wrong though. Hades is a good game, but it doesn't have interesting weapon upgrades. The variety in the game comes from boons, not upgrading your weapon.
@thomasturner1065
@thomasturner1065 Ай бұрын
Around 5:42 is where his reason for saying so is clarified: very few roguelikes/rogue-lites have any replayability, which kind of defeats the point; they're **supposed** to be replayed, so if you can't keep replaying them, the focus of the game probably isn't the roguelike aspect of it. I personally think Hades falls into that category. Having sank hours into it only to discover the weapon upgrades were abysmal (as in, didn't change much), I was pretty disappointed tbh. Not saying Hades is bad overall, but imo it gets very repetitive very quickly as there is almost no variety, even with the weapon upgrades and boons. That's why I stopped playing it. It's ofc mostly subjective but one objective thing is that Hades clearly has more focus on story than gameplay variety, and to some people such as myself, that just isn't my thing.
@thealchemist7843
@thealchemist7843 Ай бұрын
PLEASE play Noita, it's probably the most convoluted game I have ever played, (at least when you look at all the things you can do) but even knowing just the basics is really rewarding. There's some people that build these honestly just ridiculous wands that utilize specific mathematical equations to summon a deer in a separate reality, just to swap your position with it, or a wand that creates an infinite lifetime projectile that follows you around and fights for you. I understand MAYBE ten percent of the game, and I have played it for only about 120 hours. I know the game might be hard starting out, but once you get to know how even one little thing works, you're golden. (Just remember, chainsaws are your friend) also, Hämis.
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
It’s on the list! And also been requested a lot with this video hahaha
@eow4317
@eow4317 Ай бұрын
I forking hate that game it’s worse than rain world
@anusaukko6792
@anusaukko6792 Ай бұрын
@@eow4317 I fucking love that game it's better than rain world
@thealchemist7843
@thealchemist7843 Ай бұрын
@@eow4317 i have 300 hours in it :)
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 Ай бұрын
Other rogue likes expect you to optimize. Noita expects you to snap the game mechanics in half so things can get serious. Every impassable barrier in the game is a test to see if you can assemble something clever or broken enough to pass it anyway and find another challenge. And that's really it. There's no absolute rule in the game. There are a lot of hard rules, but if you know what you're doing and get the right stuff, you can break every last one. (Heck, the current WR speed run involves straight-up stealing a giant meticulously created spell from a previous run using an interaction that would be considered a bug if it didn't fit the lore so well).
@Fallen_Pup
@Fallen_Pup Ай бұрын
I like how Binding of Isaac wasn't mentioned at all
@pk251
@pk251 Ай бұрын
🤫
@SilkyForestMoose
@SilkyForestMoose 6 күн бұрын
Shhh, don’t scare him, he might not know it exists.
@TEHAWSOMEMEH
@TEHAWSOMEMEH Ай бұрын
Ngl this video actually made me want to play noita again for some reason
@ryanm6004
@ryanm6004 Ай бұрын
Noita scratches the same itch as wizard of legend for me, it's built on a lot of the same principles and I love it to death. But I am much worse at it than WoL.
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Everyone keeps telling me to play it after this video hahaha
@clairek4668
@clairek4668 Ай бұрын
5:28 I too freaked out when I beat the final boss of this game
@nobelphoenix
@nobelphoenix 22 күн бұрын
At 3:50 you talk about how the first boss's pattern is just "dodge, dodge, dodge then strike, then repeat".. what really got me by surprise was how the bosses scaled according to the level you were at. The fire boss at the end of first stage only does that minor pattern but if you see her at the end of second stage she does something else and they even use the spells you can get as arcana cards; which makes it so that even if you are seeing them using a move for the first time if you've used that arcana before you know what to expect from the visual cues alone. This game is simply clever in its design. edit: lol a second later in the video you talk about the second part of what I love about boss design in this game and yeah, it deserves the praise.
@SylvesterAshcroft88
@SylvesterAshcroft88 Ай бұрын
I've had this game in my library for years, and i still need to play it, but i didn't know where to start when i launched it just over a year ago, similar to the start of magicite, which felt like an impenetrable wall to overcome.
@oliver-ip6bc
@oliver-ip6bc Ай бұрын
huh... it was only reading the comments that I realized that your video didn't have like 600k views. youtube give this guy more views
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Just starting out :)
@nicklasbertelsen8717
@nicklasbertelsen8717 Ай бұрын
well, i mean it is pretty close to that now. 150k views
@AgecTube
@AgecTube Ай бұрын
Which are the games shown in the video?
@TheNemkris
@TheNemkris Ай бұрын
The progression isn't there, it could not keep me motivated to play it at all.
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Oh man I loved it, it felt way more rewarding to progress from my own skill, getting faster, smarter, and learning more every run instead of just being stronger thanks to upgrades But I do prefer roguelikes more than roguelites
@TheNemkris
@TheNemkris Ай бұрын
@@EljayIsHere Different strokes for different folks.
@livedandletdie
@livedandletdie Ай бұрын
@@TheNemkris I don't like playing a game for 50 hours to unlock a bloody health buff... I am an ARPG player, and a Bullethell enjoyer, If the game isn't testing my skill, my decision making, and my endurance, it's not a good game, if I can just die 500 games in a row to become an unstoppable monster... it's not fun.
@TheNemkris
@TheNemkris Ай бұрын
@@livedandletdie But that is an unfair characterization. Try Hades, try Deadcells and you will know ur dead wrong.
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
My main problem with Hades personally is how little story they give you each win hahaha I ran that game so many times and was getting so annoyed at talking to his mum for 3 lines then dying, with no new info being revealed. I really think it’s just different gameplay appeals to different people as well, no one here is wrong :) just preferences
@bbdragon43
@bbdragon43 Ай бұрын
Spent hours 1v1ing my friends in this game just discovering combos of what worked and what didn't. Miss those days
@Halawanyjr
@Halawanyjr 13 күн бұрын
what is the game at minute 4:33 ??
@Nichoma
@Nichoma Ай бұрын
There is a bit of a meta best pick set up in my opinion. I always ran with the cloak that lowers your hp to 100 and gives you health regen after a few seconds of taking no damage and I pair it with the relic that makes all damage you take have a hard cap of 10% your max hp. It makes survival significantly easier and once I found the combo it was hard to justify not using it. Also it does lose a bit of replayability over time once you get most of the void arcana. That all being said its a 15$ game ive played for over 100 hours and i loved every second of it. It is an incredible game that i would highly recommend and I cant wait to see what they do in the sequel.
@durttheelder4035
@durttheelder4035 Ай бұрын
My problem with Wizard of Legend is that I have to play action roguelikes/roguelites with a controller and I can't adjust the key binds of Wizard of Legend so I can't play it, but it seems like a game I'd like
@anonmisfit
@anonmisfit Ай бұрын
been playin w different controllers, including steam deck for 700+hrs, i think youll do well ;)
@VinTJ
@VinTJ Ай бұрын
oddly enough, despite agreeing that Hades is best played with Controller, I think Wizard of Legend is a fine KB+M game. especially if you have a gaming mouse with two side buttons, it makes all your arcanas / skills be handily used. not to mention Wizard of Legend has a lot more precise aiming required.
@Cerberusisntmycat
@Cerberusisntmycat 18 күн бұрын
@@VinTJ Keyboard and Mouse VS Controller in WoL has a couple differences - Controller sports any direction whereas keyboard mouse is limited to orthogonal, however keyboard mouse has Dash to Mouse along with adjustable keybinds. i find if you can get around aiming on a controller it is more fluent and better to play with.
@Foto17
@Foto17 Ай бұрын
Have you played Enter The Gungeon before? I’m surprised I haven’t seen it mentioned here in the comments yet. It’s definitely not as much of a “deckbuilder” roguelike as the items you get in runs are more random, but that randomness adds to the replayability a lot. The progression is definitely slow at first, but there’s still so much in the game. The main turnoff is probably the difficulty when first getting into it, but it’s really fun to learn how to predict attacks and get better at dodging everything. I’ve done almost everything in the game, and still occasionally go back to do runs and challenge myself.
@haotatyan
@haotatyan Ай бұрын
Its a different genre
@johnkim1048
@johnkim1048 Ай бұрын
I just wanted to ask if you played risk of rain 2 or Slay the spire? I feel like they are both really awesome roguelites, with a lot of replayability. I will say that they do start off slower (especially Risk of rain 2).
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
So I’m thinking about streaming slay the spire soon! It’s so well known and fantastic a review seems silly, but I missed it sadly so keen to try it before 2 comes out
@Goodfeller
@Goodfeller 28 күн бұрын
What is the game at 5:49 ??? And I love the game. Been a while since I played but gonna pick it up again I think.
@mikhasanto2880
@mikhasanto2880 26 күн бұрын
I think its loop hero
@MegaPhil92
@MegaPhil92 7 сағат бұрын
Hey Guys, what is that Gnome/Dwarf Game at 4:39, and is it worth playing? Greetings!
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere 4 сағат бұрын
Barony I did a video on it, it’s sick!
@dvd72
@dvd72 Ай бұрын
What other roguelike/lites have u played?
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
At this point it’s probably easier to check what I haven’t played
@arron390
@arron390 23 күн бұрын
@@EljayIsHere have you tried slay the spire?
@abdulrahmanwaleed6363
@abdulrahmanwaleed6363 Ай бұрын
Anyone know what game this is 4:39
@morgangames2706
@morgangames2706 Ай бұрын
What was the song used in this video it sounds familiar? At the start of 2:40
@Nevercleverr
@Nevercleverr Ай бұрын
City of Tears - Hollow Knight OST
@seussusamongoose2905
@seussusamongoose2905 Ай бұрын
Warm Snow has similar in-run diversity, you might like that one. You can beat the game on a fresh save too (might need to have played before, but it’s very doable). The first difficulty is balanced around having nothing, and all the higher difficulties are balanced by giving you much more complicated upgrades to keep you interested. There’s around 16 classes in the game, and they’re all unique and viable without needing to play a specific “meta” build. (E.g., Even effect-specialised classes like the poison class can actively support about a dozen cool builds that have nothing to do with poison.) Every item can be put into one of four inventory slots, and the effect completely changes depending on where it is. I have tried over 300 unique builds at this point for sure (with a theme and a cool payoff) and they were all really satisfying. You’ll feel heavily rewarded for having fun, theory crafting ideas and experimenting with what you find 👨‍🔬👍
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Thanks for the recommendation! :) Now I just need to get through the other hundreds of games hahaha but it does sound cool!
@ecrosenow5194
@ecrosenow5194 Ай бұрын
See the other thing about wizard of legend is that it has made me despise other games with magic systems because wizard of legends just feels like everything I want in one in the most perfect sense, not only are you learning how spells work and what goes well together for your build but it truly will become “your build” because your experience might never be the same as someone else’s with the game, it makes it feel like I’m actually looking and learning wonderful tricks myself in a certain manner whereas other games with magic have a more restricted system, a mage might only have certain spells it’s able to use or unlock and that’s it, or it feels restricted by mana which takes away the magic from the magic in a certain manner of speaking sometimes
@dylancooper1394
@dylancooper1394 Ай бұрын
All great points, I absolutely love this game. Also something that adds to the replayability immensely for me, is that every time you beat the final boss you unlock a special spell that you can only obtain by beating him. I own every item in the game now, and am just working on unlocking all those last spells :)
@SieromneDamietso-xm4pz
@SieromneDamietso-xm4pz 13 күн бұрын
5:14 As you were talking about not having any op builds, you find magnetic follow up to sync with bolt rail & fueled berserk. That's about the equivalent of holding down backspace on enemy health bars 😂. Tbf, it's still not a guaranteed combo to win, but it's a relatively op synergy
@kookigorre
@kookigorre 24 күн бұрын
What is the game at 4:33 ?
@tilllemaignan-durand9375
@tilllemaignan-durand9375 10 күн бұрын
Hey if you are talking about the one in 3d PS2 style art with a goblin its Barony If you mean the 2D one i seen it somewhere on steam already so by searching "2D roguelike" you should find it in a few minuts
@Kekeripo
@Kekeripo Ай бұрын
The one thing i noticed about LoW is how even after 40h, i only managed to beat the game once, yet i'm not mad when losing. Ofc, i'd rather win but is still fun to adventure trough the maps. I suggest magicraft if you need a "same, but different" experience to WoL but with a few twists and quiet a bit more odd spells.
@LiterallyMyst
@LiterallyMyst 25 күн бұрын
SHADOW WIZARD MONEY GANG, WE LOVE CASTING SPELLS. PS: Coop mode is sadly local only. It may work with remote play but unfortunately local only ):
@spad4
@spad4 29 күн бұрын
but have you done phase 3 sura
@Atzelord
@Atzelord Ай бұрын
If you think LoW offers variety you might need to play Noita. Gotta love that you use the Kingdom OST by the way
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Ive been recommended it soooo much hahaha I bought it the other day, very keen!
@awso0075
@awso0075 13 күн бұрын
4:33 game name pls
@light819
@light819 Ай бұрын
Love wizard of legend but I was really hoping wizard of legend 2 that just got announced would pull a risk of rain 2 and go full 3d with an over the shoulder camera
@danjames8314
@danjames8314 Ай бұрын
if you want this game but more unforgiving and with around 40-100% more bullshit. I'd recommend Noita. the game is hardly a rougelite (though there are some things that unlock, there are no permanent upgrades) but is one of the most satisfying games to get good at, with insane levels of complexity it also falls under the category of game of "weirdly sadistic Finnish game", but most of all is that the game accounts for you breaking it, and borderline expects you to. so if you consider some Randoms word as good enough to look into, genuinely look into Noita. edit: You want replayability eh? if you wanna know a fun thing about the community around noita, beating the boss for the first time is considered a pretty big achievement, but also often joked about as beating a tutorial.
@sethb3090
@sethb3090 Ай бұрын
Your first time beating the boss, you probably think you've done the playthrough. Later on you realize that it's an open world game and every assumption you've held is actually a challenge waiting for you to overcome it. You're not required to accept the ending the game offers you, you can go out and make a different one by sheer force, knowledge, and creativity.
@aplayerplays708
@aplayerplays708 Ай бұрын
Have you tried chronoark? Its kinda like slay the spire but not really.
@sasamak6474
@sasamak6474 Ай бұрын
i use the same built every time and i can play this fucking game as many times as i want. why is this game so good and why is that one water basic attack so broken
@ValeriaPaper
@ValeriaPaper 11 күн бұрын
Welp, the demo for a sequel came out recently. I'd like to hear your opinion on it.
@Alex-lu5ui
@Alex-lu5ui Ай бұрын
Amazing video dude, keep it up! I was not expecting to be recommended a video about WoL in 2024 lmao, but now I wanna get back into it and dump another 60 hours into it!
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words! I'm playing a lot of games late to the party hahaha but I'm trying to use this new channel to work through my back catalogue of all the games I missed
@kukukachu
@kukukachu Ай бұрын
My go to for a good roguele is Rogue Glitch. If you haven't played it, seriously, check it out and DON'T just put it on your backlog. If you're gonna check it out, check it out, if not, don't bother with it. It gets, CRAZY!
@NatanStarke
@NatanStarke Ай бұрын
I liked this, i think i will get it
@hercar20xx5
@hercar20xx5 Ай бұрын
You’d love Nita as it also is wizard based with hundreds of spells and it also super unique though be warned its super difficult and its secrets are so hidden you are better of just looking a couple up
@harshvats6183
@harshvats6183 Ай бұрын
nice video my guy, i believe u have what it takes to make it big. keep it up
@Guddeisr
@Guddeisr Ай бұрын
I think that Enter The Gungeon is a good example too. I mean, the difference between runs are new weapons and items, but the stats are always the same on every character. It keeps the difficulty even with great weapons, the system of synergies and the floors and bosses changes the game in every round. Also, the game encourages skill improvement of the the player giving rewards when you take no hit with a boss and other situations. The collectables like keys, blanks or money are generally rare, so you have to be strategic on what to use on a certain moment. I know some combinations of weapons and items are super powerful, but the difficulty of the game is always high so you can't be too relaxed. For me, one of the best games I've played.
@VinTJ
@VinTJ Ай бұрын
I agree. Enter the Gungeon and Wizard of Legend are all-timers for me. so easy to just jump into it when I have nothing else to do.
@MTREDHEADS
@MTREDHEADS Ай бұрын
you want a game that will kick your ass but has endless replay ability? Noita. from the physics to the exploration to the wand mechanics. it gets more fun the more you learn and play the game. prepare to die... a lot.
@haxking2
@haxking2 Ай бұрын
I remember coming back to this game recently after a few years and accidentally sinking another 25 hours into it.
@gtkingly8127
@gtkingly8127 Ай бұрын
man I played this game with a very good friend of mine around the time of release split screen just smoking and playing for 12 hours straight ahhhhht what a good time
@kristofferlape
@kristofferlape Ай бұрын
Thank you for recommending this game! Searched it up and found it was on sale for 70% off! Perfect timing! (sale lasts until May 21)
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
heck yeah!
@somefishhere
@somefishhere Ай бұрын
Wizard of legend is a bullet hell roguelike with how the bosses are designed. It makes me want to try Furi, which I haven’t yet
@kamm3021
@kamm3021 20 күн бұрын
There's a way to startworh full relics by doing tutorial again
@wyvernplays1147
@wyvernplays1147 Күн бұрын
this is genuinely one of my FAVORITE games, me and my friend play it all the time and its just so good, im genuinely surprised how it isnt more popular
@janmantsch6675
@janmantsch6675 Ай бұрын
There is only one thing that i feel you forgot to mention: The absolute lack of Invincibilty frames, if you get hit in this game you dont get a short window where you cant be damaged by anything else, the enemy will combo you away if you are not carefull!
@davidgusquiloor2665
@davidgusquiloor2665 Ай бұрын
I was obsessed with this game when it came out, freaking banger. I spent multiple hours trying different card and relic combos and capes just to see what happened. I don't usually like rogue likes or lites, but this one was super fun for me.
@noophieu5197
@noophieu5197 Ай бұрын
4:12 just wait until he put on his hood or better, his second hood.
@LunarrWind
@LunarrWind Ай бұрын
Keep in mind that Wizard of Legend was made by two people. It's amazing that what I consider to be the best Rogue-lite/like of all time is the product of a two person team. Additionally, although there is a sequel to Wizard of Legend coming out, neither of the original devs are involved. The publisher, Humble Bundle, brought in an entirely different studio to make the sequel. It's being worked on by Dead Mage instead of Contingent99.
@crydegolem4135
@crydegolem4135 Ай бұрын
Played it many, many times over the course of 2 or 3 years on my Xbox one. Fantastic game, coop play is insanely fun to do too since you can build to have the role diversity of melee/range, tank/dps etc although it is important to note the camera was pretty annoying to work with (could’ve changed by now). Highly recommend, even as just a game you play in bursts occasionally throughout a year.
@afonsoleitao4439
@afonsoleitao4439 7 күн бұрын
You should try noita it really changed the way I view rouguelikes
@hellbr3ad807
@hellbr3ad807 Ай бұрын
Wizard of Legend and then Dead Cells set the bar so high up for me, that I can't enjoy any other rougelites as much anymore
@FrontFacing
@FrontFacing Ай бұрын
Well.... I fucked up. I thought I'd get a rogue-like for me and my BF to play after work. Now our standards are way too god damn high after 60+ hours of grinding Wizards of Legends. xD
@masterpiece1817
@masterpiece1817 Ай бұрын
I loved this game, but I could NEVER beat a full run. So hard.
@theparpro
@theparpro Ай бұрын
can someone tell me the name of the game in 4:34? please
@Legogreens
@Legogreens Ай бұрын
Yeah I wanna know too he says it so fast. Looks comfy atmosphere
@jokerofspades-xt3bs
@jokerofspades-xt3bs Ай бұрын
the game is called Barony
@theparpro
@theparpro Ай бұрын
@@jokerofspades-xt3bs thx so much
@sirparish
@sirparish Ай бұрын
Out of so many roguelites I've played, I'd never expect youtube to recommend me a video talking this highly of 'Wizard Of Legend'. It's a decent game but it was a very repetitive and shallow experience for me. The combat is fun but nowhere close to carrying the game to something more than a few hours of fun. Crazy how tastes may vary lol
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Im always down for suggestions, what should I play that you like? I'm keen.
@grayve2122
@grayve2122 Ай бұрын
Maaaan, your incredibly low sub count SCREAMS to me that I just found a growing gold mine of content. Just binged your entire channel. You're gonna be huge! amazing content
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Wow, thanks! :)
@imajindraggn16
@imajindraggn16 Ай бұрын
whats the game at 4:34 ?
@Legogreens
@Legogreens Ай бұрын
Barony It looks like
@jokerofspades-xt3bs
@jokerofspades-xt3bs Ай бұрын
its Barony
@obamabenlaggin1302
@obamabenlaggin1302 Ай бұрын
Kinda funny how you stumbled upon wizard of legend after I played it till I moved on. I agree with most of your points especially when you were saying you were lying. It is an extremely balanced game to a t and takes the feel of potentially dying and starting from nothing very seriously. I love that you love this game. Finding extreme satisfaction from it until ya need to move on.
@karuban3060
@karuban3060 Ай бұрын
I absolutely love this game to bits. Been playing for hundreds of hours ever since I got it last year and I can't believe their are still people playing it. I really hope this vid entices more people to play it as it is so underrated these days. Love the vid! Keep it up!
@manuel_42
@manuel_42 Ай бұрын
what's the game at the beginning of the video?
@pada5animation550
@pada5animation550 Ай бұрын
He showed Cult of the lamb and Hades at the beginning 👍
@manuel_42
@manuel_42 Ай бұрын
@@pada5animation550 ty
@Marc-fk6si
@Marc-fk6si Ай бұрын
"what the hell was that, where am I? .... who am I...." got me cracking up
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Hahaha
@dailypotatoplay9535
@dailypotatoplay9535 Ай бұрын
4:33 what game is that?
@jokerofspades-xt3bs
@jokerofspades-xt3bs Ай бұрын
that is Barony
@eglaiosdeminecraft9259
@eglaiosdeminecraft9259 Ай бұрын
4:15 I remember flexing how I though myself smart for finding a cooldown-reduction build then getting roasted on Steam Discussion by experienced players because there're a couple really broken builds lol
@anonym-hub
@anonym-hub 22 күн бұрын
What "Wizard Of Legend" version you talk about? Melody, Thundering keep, Phantom
@akhdanwira
@akhdanwira Ай бұрын
won the game in my 6th run after learning the abilities and relics, got crazed over it and kept playing for a week straight
@nlight1291
@nlight1291 Ай бұрын
I am so soooo sorry for people who had to fight zeal in 3rd floor boss for their first time just so you know yes meteors are meant to blind you.
@Limestoneowl
@Limestoneowl Ай бұрын
Got this game on my switch and really enjoyed it on vacation lol I should def play this game more or get it on my pc also
@everythingsetup
@everythingsetup Ай бұрын
I beat this game when it came out and when I came back the game was unrecognizable with new bosses and spells and everything it was awesome
@riangahq8974
@riangahq8974 Ай бұрын
I can't believe somebody is using kingdom new lands ost. This is great!
@EljayIsHere
@EljayIsHere Ай бұрын
Banger sound track :D
@Hematie023
@Hematie023 Ай бұрын
shadow wizard money gang we love cast,ng spells
@AimlikeJame
@AimlikeJame Ай бұрын
I was waiting to play the second one since its online multiplayer but bc of this video i might play this now. Great video!
@Srsperson
@Srsperson Ай бұрын
What games is this at 4:33?
@jokerofspades-xt3bs
@jokerofspades-xt3bs Ай бұрын
that game is Barony
@Srsperson
@Srsperson Ай бұрын
@@jokerofspades-xt3bs thanks
@seya8282
@seya8282 Ай бұрын
4:13 "master my ass he's not even wearing a hood" me: ..... ayt
@hectorruano9423
@hectorruano9423 5 күн бұрын
I want to become overpower at one point
@oanimus07
@oanimus07 Ай бұрын
i love your choice of music in your videos
@Psyko_Monk3y
@Psyko_Monk3y 10 күн бұрын
Wizard rougelites just work for some reason I suppose. * cough * Noita * cough *
@Obsidian.Nightmare
@Obsidian.Nightmare Ай бұрын
Whats the game in 4:39?
@TheGreggs
@TheGreggs Ай бұрын
Barony
@harmlesschimera4793
@harmlesschimera4793 Ай бұрын
I remember playing this game when it was on the game pass
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