And jumped 3.87m in length 💫

Is this barrel jumping or figure skating? 2As should have a nice high arc. Her arc is like Miyahara on steroids, despite actually getting good height. Lol

@@gogroregogoror Bigger than some of the men's triple axel

And the running edge she gets out of the 2A 😍

Just speed, but this is not speed skating. This is figure skating!

I agree! I hope she continues to compete as I really enjoyed her performances! 🤩👏👏👏

Yes! Two performances that she will be so proud of for the rest of her life! And how M Huth is so calm and positive in the kiss and cry too.

I really enjoyed her. Which is weird because I remember finding her kind of plodding and boring last year. However, I found her programs and overall performance a real step up. *She actually didn't get a PB in the short here. I just looked her up and technically her personal best is from last year, but it's by like .40 or something.

I agree! Nicole has been on a roll since Beijing. She has consistently been improving and as she is getting older she is finally improving on all fronts.

I was impressed too! She was so elegant!!

Honestly, I know the pop was a big mistake, but the fact that she pulled off the 3T right after it was pretty iconic

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Her posture makes me want to self-defenestrate. I'm sure she's a lovely person though.

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She reminds me of an Asian version of Irina Slutskya, lots of power, but not my cup of tea.

Icon ??? don’t say nonsense ??? She’s a star but icon no , surya bonali , Michelle kwan etc are icons …

Yes! Loved how thoughtful Kaori was. ❤️

I am not into phantom. And Haein is so beautiful and her smile is worth a million bucks but she was so mute until the jumps were done.

@@youarestronger I'm not into Phantom that much either, but her posture and arm positions is so beautiful and perfect

If you want to add - between Haein's name, Hae-in is the right one, not Ha-ein.

@@SkatePSY Thanks.

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So excited to see what she does next season!!

She's awesome!

I hardly knew she existed until this season. But she has made an impression. Recent events Niina is one of the people I make sure to see her skate. Looking forward to her future.

Let's not pretend that all her skaters are the same in terms of artistity. I agreed that a poor tecnique was expanded and determined on pre-puberty bodies, and that's a bad thing. However, Alyona Kostornaya's Angel SP(2019) was a real art product

So agree!

I agree with that

On the other hand, Polina eloquently expresses what many of us are frustrated about in particular preferential scoring for certain skaters like Kaori, who basically receives tech call immunity on her suspect triple lutz edge with high GOE near +2 in both the SP and LP and to my eyes she had one hooked (ur) landing on her triple jump combo ignored. Even with this beneficial, Kaori's base tech score for completed elements in the long program was about 7 points lower than Haein Lee's, yet her advantageous scoring allowed her to close the gap to 2 points after also receiving more generous scoring than Haein Lee in the SP as well. Meanwhile, overly harsh tech calls are made against her opponents like the q call on Haein Lee's beautiful triple lutz / triple toe combo with deflated GOE of -.10. In my opinion, Kaori was also overscored in PCS compared to Haein Lee with the 5 points extra Kaori received in PCS being more than the difference in their final scores; therefore it is clear to me that Haein Lee should be the real World Champion. I believe Kaori is a very good skater, but I personally prefer more graceful skaters with less overt pumping of the body to gain speed like Haein Lee and I also prefer Haein Lee's musicality and intricate and agile steps, expressions bladework, erect posture and grace more. Comments were just removed and disabled under Haein Lee's freeskate video and the Ladies Freeskate video was removed altogether at about the same time, both of which contained a great deal of disagreement with the scoring and results. This strikes me as kind of a silent confession of scoring manipulation and demonstrates that as much as I disliked the great scoring favoritism in favor of Eteri skaters a similar kind of beneficial scoring is now being given in my opinion at least to Kaori.

​@@johnjackson3735 This has been the case for her in Japan for years. Just ask any Rika or Wakaba fan how ridiculous the JSF has been in its favoritism for Kaori over everyone.

@@joeyartk Yes, I will never forget 2018 Nationals when Rika should have won with two triple axels in the long program. It is especially aggravating because Rika could have just flutzed away and taken the pressure off her chronic ankle injury, but she didn't receive the teflon tech immunity and PCS, GOE inflation of Kaori.The ISU is really shooting itself in the foot because they could have created a rivalry between Japan and South Korea by giving Haein Lee the victory she deserved with a classically graceful style favored by so many like me and others but they had to force the scoring manipulation down people's throats.

@@johnjackson3735 I believe the whole fairytale about Kaori having such great quality technique was cooked up between her team and JSF so that she could try to compete with Rika, despite Kihira's content being miles above Sakamoto. The JSF have always hated Wakaba, so they just continued to perpetually nitpick and lowball her compared to Kaori. You notice this really took off following the season Kaori showed she had no chance whatsoever of doing Quads or a 3A. What is most frustrating is that while being touted as cleaner and more technically superior, Kaori actually uses alot of poor, cheated technique to hide her flaws on several jumps. Rika doesnt have edge issue, and Wakaba at least tries to do her flip correctly. Kaori on the other hand tries to disguise her lutz edge until changing to inside at the last minute. She also jumps most jumps with a circular entry to make it harder to spot her pre-rotation and often under rotated landings. Her whole speed skater style is to hide her lack of grace, yet it is celebrated as superior, Lol. Same goes for often cheat assisted jumps with the abnormally low arc that are also lauded. The judges are well aware of these things, yet completely ignore and even reward them. The only exception was Worlds a few years ago when the US needed to qualify 3 spots for the Olympics. Then they actually called Kaori on a few things. That tells you all you need to know about ISU integrity. Lol

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Glad you like them!

You don't have to be a playwright to be a theater critic. Polina knows what she's talking about. Whether she had a correct lutz edge herself is irrelevant.

the russians are gone, for now. But the cloud stays. The scoring and the placement..Urghhhhhhhhh

It was a long road to get here, but the sport is recovering a bit.

Glad you like them!

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She is well informed and so well spoken. Always a great episode when she is on with Dave and Jonathan!

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It would.

Heard enough phantom for a lifetime

It doesn't matter music is heard a lot or not. The importance is that the program fits the skater artistically and athletically I think.

Agree.

So hard to do

She is a lovely skater but the jump technique hurts me to watch. Puberty could be a down fall for her using that technique. Hopefully her coach and parents get her the training for proper jump techniques soon.

@@louisehancock324 She is probably already past puberty. She is 16.

@@skatefan9495 Not all girls. My granddaughter grew in height at 13 but feminine changes such as hip, breast develop and monthly visitor did not happen until 17. She was a competitive runner which can slow down some changes in body structure, negatively effecting some athletes.

@@louisehancock324 Yes, there is always the exception that proves the rule. The vast majority of 16 year old girls are past puberty.

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The ISU has botched this so badly it should be an example of how not to do a World Championships for the future to learn from.

You might need a VPN to see the whole event, they're geo-blocked if your country had the streaming rights

@@TinaOe We do, and I watched it without commentary on Peacock, but I love Noonan!

@@TheLkell00 I did vpn Spain. The isu channel on KZfaq. Then you do videos. Or. Just type in saitama world free women. Or something in search

Hmm yeah. I’ve just checked. I don’t know where the full session videos are on their channel. It’s v odd. I’m just used to putting it in the search bar because it’s so useless ! I don’t know how anyone who didn’t know you COULD see the whole event would find it or know you could watch I? 😮😂

Yassss. It's hard to believe she ever got an edge call or underrotation considering how confidently she speaks on the issue.

Returning stars are definitely important for a sport.

Thank you!

100. They either have to be pretty and girly , delicate or do tangos. That seems to be the vast majority of styles. i enjoyed Nina from Estonia, Leona short, kaori’s short just to name a few of top ones. Anything with personality basically! It isn’t rewarded enough to perform or embody a piece when you can get away with just wafting hands around and a delicate face to a ‘classic’ (as in phantom etc no offence to haein, great skater and she won’t have chosen it) or classical style. Pretty dress, pretty arms but dull. Korean skaters and many Japanese (bar wakaba and kaori) seem to do this. Beautiful dresses., lovely presentation, zero individuality. Such a shame as I think there is so much potential so that’s prob why it annoys me! Miahara on other hand is lovely skater but she skated the same to her free as she does everything else and I assume that was supposed to be feisty ! Someone low down in technical can do something original and with personality and they don’t get rewarded so I assume many think why bother!

What????... Por favor no insulte a MAO ASADA... ella tiene una figura muy estilizada, es una verdadera patinadora artística!!.. ademas MAO fue acreedora a muchos 3A !!!.. Piense bien al hacer sus comparaciones 😉

The event was in Kaori's country and she is the previous world champion, so I've sort of expected these factors playing a role before the event.

@@johnl405Well this basically means the results are fixed and meaningless and one must decide and calculate the scores more accurately for themselves.

@@johnjackson3735 To a degree yes. If Kaori had another error in the long, then it'd be really hard to justify her winning overall. I'm just glad Russia was out of it this past year, and I really hope it continues. Though it is truly a farce that the coaches and officials are not punished as well. In fact they should be banned for life, for the fact that Trimetazadine showing up in Valieva's urine.

@@johnl405 Lesson 1 on obvious manipulation which this assuredly was is that there is no need to get the blowback from doing it like removing videos full of complaints about the scoring as happened in this case unless the manipulation is decisive in changing the final placements.

Kaori's 3Toe was not underrotated.

That was merely a VISUAL error!

What about Gubanova? I'm scared to watch bc I'm afraid she made many mistakes 😢

I always thoroughly enjoy Katia's programs.❤

@@pgk3052 i never ever liked any of her programs; simply I don't. But it does not meant that she is a bad skater. She is great! but I do not enjoy her skating at all

@@koknesis5226 I understand, people have different preferences and that's fine. 🙂 She just makes me incredibly happy when she skates/performs because it's always done with such abandon.

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Thanks for the info!

Hopefully you'll have more success than I did requesting Medvedeva to be correctly pronounced 😭😂

It's He-in , not "hay-in".... Loena is good, but has lots of problems and has a history of being overscored.

@@jenvogue5005 💯 I would have given Mai the bronze.

@@thesovgc definitely more deserving

She GIVES it to us! 😍

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you are right about coach if you ean Rafael

And the balloons on the dress. They infantilise her. Yes she is small and ‘cute’ but she is in her 20s! Just removing those balloons would help! She has bags of personality and charisma, skates with personality and they gave her that. She deserves more.

Did you post links? I've had replies disappear when I do that.

@@L.Spencer No, I included no links. My reply/replies were to help you out by letting you know how I accessed Worlds with commentary on KZfaq as it was blocked. I downloaded the free ProtonVPN app and then chose the location Netherlands and then the videos will appear on KZfaq. Hopefully, this reply doesn’t get blocked. This way you can hear Belinda Noonan!

@@TwinnerA sometimes the spam detector picks up people recommending apps and such as spam when it isnt- maybe thats why :(

Kaori is a good skater. Too many flaws to be great.

💯 I honestly prefer Mai Mihara to Kaori. If she isn't skating to The Piano, I'm not here for it.

I think Haein should have won by two or three points, as well. I gave Kaori negative GOE for her popped 1F3T and subtracted a couple of points in GOE for each Lutz. I also lowered Haein's PCS a few points in the free skate to give her 8.5s instead of low 9s, since I do think Kaori has better PCS. Haein ended up with 218 to Kaori's 215. I'm obviously a layperson, but yeah... Haein should have won gold!

​@@zackwilson8701 when you see the URs Kaori got away with, u might change hers to bronze. Lol

@@joeyartk fair enough! Beyond Kaori and Haein, who else do you think should have podiumed here? The rest of the skaters were so messy...

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She really does, And confident as well as.

You must hate Sakamoto then. Lol

@@joeyartk I don't ‘hate’ anyone. Like I said, I like Haean.

@@hbattagl I was making a joke because Sakamoto is among the worst at the 2 things you mentioned, that's all.

That's funny because I think her arms are always perfectly positioned.

@@johnl405if you like stiffness and lack of grace and musicality , Kaori is your cup of tea I guess. That's ok. No skater is perfect.

I'm so intrigued. Could you elaborate? 🤔 And does that mean that if Beijing was a Worlds that Trusova would have won?

@@thesovgc I'm only saying that the younger, energy filled womens skater seems to surprisingly win over the more mature skater at the Olympics, Tara Lipinski, Sarah Hughes, Alina Zagitova, Adelina Sotnikova. I didn't watch 2006 and 2010 Olympics. I don't think my theory applies to Trusova, the three Russian women had kind of a different dynamic, in my opinion. Valieva was the youngest, newest and still expected to clinch.

I should add I'm just a casual enthusiast, with no expertise in technique. So take my opinion with a huge grain of salt. I just think the Olympics values the excited emotion of a younger skater.

She doesn't want us to forget her, does she.

Was he speaking ill of the elderly? 😢

I was not speaking ill of the elderly. I was saying her program doesn't reflect her age or personality.

@@TheSkatingLesson I figured as much 🤗

I think Isabeau is beautifully packaged and really impressed that she does her own hair and makeup. Her dresses are clearly in the Russian style and even made in Russia. The simplicity of 90’s velvet spaghetti strap dresses are not on trend anymore - even adult figure skaters are fully bedazzled

Lol agree with you, Dave!

Rika and Wakaba >>>> Kaori. It's a damn shame. I'd rather watch Rika do 3S combos.

If we're being honest, Kaori is more consistent than Wakaba has ever been. But Wakaba is much better with musical interpretation.

​@@deirdrekiely6187 Wakaba would be just as consistent if the judge's allowed her to get away with the sloppy technique and mistakes Kaori does. Watch her pick assisted jumps in slow motion sometimes. Constant massive pre rotation, yet still under rotates often. Not to mention poor upper body carriage, stiff back, and lack of grace. Shocking the scores she gets with the mediocre content she has.

Haein has edge issues too

@@thh982 Not as bad as Kaori, but she does. E for Kaori, ! For Lee. Both should be called. I don't care who wins. I just want honest scoring. At least she rotated her jumps better than Kaori, regardless of what the judges pretended to see. Lol

Lutz has to be done on an outside edge, otherwise it's not a Lutz.

@@deirdrekiely6187 Then maybe the flutz should be legal since it gets used so much…

​@Catherine Sullivan No. That's ridiculous. Jumps require specific edge take-offs. Skating is about edges and curves. We don't need to dumb down the sport for skaters with poor technique.

@@deirdrekiely6187 well it’s what skaters do and if they are not penalized for the wrong edge, improper technique continues.

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I agree. These programs did not feel at all like Kaori…at least in comparison with her Olympic programs which felt like Kaori 100%

I remember liking her Amelie program a few years ago. I should rewatch it.

@@slumberland969 She's trying something different, got to at least respect that

Obviously everyone has their own opinion, but for me it's the exact opposite. I really see her feeling that LP music and she makes me feel it too. Hers was my favorite performance of the night by far even with the mistake.

Couldn't disagree more. Haien Lee gave my favorite and most engaging performances at Worlds for me and she received a standing ovation in Japan so obviously most in the audience thought the performance and the music she interpreted was really inspired.

@@johnjackson3735 I meant in general! They compete too much and have they same style. Yes she was excellent! but the music is not original or inspired but that’s not her fault. I would never blame the women for their programs

I thought she was very pale also. I was worried that she was not well. I think more youthful costumes would help also.

She doesn’t want to fall into that “Jersey girl” stereotype… I think Isabeau has a beautiful complexion…wonder what you think of black & brown ladies and how they look against the ice 🤔

I thought it was kind of refreshing to see a 16 year old who wasn't wearing heavy makeup.

She does not need anything you think to please your sick thoughts,Isabeau is gorgeous and charming young lady :inside and outside !With mesmerizing presentation on the ice !Beautiful face with no make up for once ,why she does not need one !

@@skatefan9495 thank you 💯🙌

Exactly I totally agree about Haein Lee being robbed of gold. She had 7 points higher in base tech score for completed elements alon in the LP and that is with a bogus q call on her triple lutz / triple toe with -.1 GOE while Kaori's suspect triple lutz edge was ignored in both the SP and LP and given sky high GOE of +2. In addition, Kaori was given a 5 point PCS cushion over Haein Lee over the SP and LP. In my opinion, Haein Lee's smooth stroking with minimal extraneous pumping to gain speed, her great musicality and intricacy in her step sequences and her marvelous grace and erect posture through her jumps with picturesque spins should have won both tech and PCS.

I would have put Chae-yeon FS over Hae-in. It was much more interesting music and more interesting choreography.

@@johnl405 I would have Haein Lee in first place in the freeksate and I prefer Haein Lee's artistry, expression, erect posture and flow through her jumps, and her intricate step sequences but everyone is free to have their opinion.