Time Stamps 0:44 Last year’s Grand Prix predictions with Megan 1:13 Megan’s life, move from Montreal to Toronto 5:32 Going from competitors to coaching with peers (KMT and Michael) 8:37 Canadian death spiral technique 10:13 Eric’s plans 10:48 Practicalities of skating while pregnant/having a young baby 13:10 Grand Prix assignments LADIES 21:20 Russian ladies (Alina Z vs Alena K, Medvedeva vs Trusova) 25:15 Skate America: Mariah Bell vs Eunsoo, U.S ladies - Gracie, Karen, Megan Wessenburg, Megan thinks U.S. uses their “TBD” spot well 28:05 Skate Canada: Korean ladies, China taking CoC back instead of Korea, China prepping venues for Olympics, Alaine Chartrand retiring?, Gabby Daleman coaching situation, Canadian girls for TBD spot - Veronik, Aliston Schumacker, Conrad Orzel’s sister, Cricket club as more than just a skating club, Trusova vs Rika Kihira 34:11 France: Maria Sotskova?, Marin Honda, Japan’s federation and how they watch/monitor during the summer 36:22 Tursynbaeva, how much attention Eteri will give her 37:40 Ting Sui - GP assignments, injury updates MEN 38:35 Skate America (benefits of Las Vegas location), Skate Canada (easier field), guesses for U.S. TBD men’s spot (Andrew Torgashev) 42:00 Summer strategy, how to build throughout the season 44:20 France, NHK: Torgashev, Tomoki vs Jason, Daisuke, Vincent PAIRS 48:11 Skate America: weaker field, Denny/Frazier and maximizing points 50:00 Skate Canada - Tarasova/Morozov with Marina/Charlie, KMT/Michael vs Luba/Charlie, Alexa/Chris (beginning of end, or beginning of something new), TBD spot to Evelyn/Trent? 53:35 Tang/Yang new Chinese team, Austrians with John Zimmerman training camp, Europeans lose ice during summer 54:15 Battle of the Blades - airs live, Vanessa can only skate GP if she’s eliminated early 56:55 CoC - Sui/Han GP in the past, what do they need to do to continue improving 59:06 NHK is deepest field, Mishina / Galiamov, Yu/Zhang missing, North Koreans only have 1 GP DANCE 1:00:52 - Weaver/Poje retiring, Canada’s 3 spots at Worlds 1:03:50 - 1:09:25 Many short ice dance mentions (Tiffany/Jonathan, Smart/Diaz, CanaDanes vs Hawayek/Baker, Marjorie/Zach,Caroline Green teaming up with Michael Parsons, Hubbell/Donahue, Importance of senior B’s for ice dancers to get early feedback on their levels, Papadakis Cizeron) 1:09:25 Megan skating again, post Olympics trajectory 1:11:20 Kids of skaters 1:13:45 Skate Oakville Pairs program 1:15:05 Skype technicalities 1:16:20 Starr Andrews 1:17:15 How fans experience off-season 1:20:40 Karen Chen GP predictions 1:22:34 U.S. ladies - Megan W, Starr, Amber Glenn, Gracie Gold, Hanna Harrell as junior vs senior 1:28:10 Zagitova vs Kostornaia (Butyrskaya - DAVE SAYS NOTHING IN SKATING IS NEW) 1:30:30 Jonathan going to China, Dave’s thoughts on China 1:33:47 Weaver/Poje retiring 1:42:10 Chock and Bates 1:43:50 Green / Parson age difference 1:44:25 Solbova’s partner from France, Didier 1:46:11 Rock the Rink vs Battle of the Blades 1:48:10 Kaitlyn Weaver’s insta post again, Canada’s not in a good place 1:49:27 US is not in a good place (Mishin’s comment about Bradie) 1:50:18 Eteri’s camp (side by side cantilever with Shoma) 1:53:25 1995 Worlds on Patreon

I think the reason why Kostonaya and Zagitova are together is that they both need later start. Kostonaya had an injury and Zagitova was in show in May-June and didn't train with the group

I think you misunderstood what Mishin meant when he called Bradie hard worker. You see in Russia promising skaters get everything for free, time on ice, high level coaches, ammunition etc. So many russian coaches including Eteri admitted the difference of non russian students that have to pay for everything on their own. While russian students even at top level can waste their training session time by pretending fixing their skates or fulling around non russian ones value every minute of training session. Russian coaches often yell at kids "work harder!". So saying about someone the he/she is a really hard worker is like a best compliment you can get.

Ok Shoma could have a good influence on these Eteri girls in some ways, but lets not do revisionist history here. Trusova was doing that same extended arch-back cantilever in her exhibition routine this year (go watch it if you don't believe me), she didn't just watch Shoma's and magically become better. Her one in the sp is great too but the ex one where she has time is amazing.

aww don’t blur your backgrounds! I love looking out Jonathan’s window with all the trees :P

When you immediately look for timestamps and then realize you're early for once and the video has only been out for 20 minutes😂

So excited! I've been loving all the off season content you guys have been providing

I just love Meagan. I NEED to see her in the kiss and cry as a coach. It’s going to be wonderful!

I love the dynamic between the three of you! I do want to see the dynamic with Bruno included, sometime soon in the future.

Hey guys, I'm from Poland. So Ekaterina Kurakova used to skate in Russia, but polish figure skating assosiation really would like her to represent our country. I also want it, she is such a lovely skater

what a treat for our saturday evening! i’ve been looking forward to this one since they were released. thanks guys!

Love the 3 of you together! Almost 2 hours is a bonus. Thank you!!

Oh yay! Perfect occasion for Meagan to guest host!

As someone who lives in Vegas, I really hope I can run into some of the skaters on the streets lol

It'll be interesting to watch how the Japanese ladies do in the Grand Prix even though Rika would likely be the only one that has the technical firepower to make the final and compete for a medal. For most of them it's more about gaining momentum and peaking for nationals, which is probably Satoko's strategy by doing Cup of China and Rostelecom back to back in November. The Kaori vs. Wakaba matchups in Skate America and France, and Satoko vs. Mai in China will be key to watch. Yuna Shiraiwa can enter the conversation if she breaks the 200 point barrier and places above Kaori or Wakaba in France or Satoko in Russia. I do hope that Rika can medal in the final, otherwise she'll lose momentum and would be at a disadvantage having to peak at nationals just two weeks later.

Have to disagree that Eteri won't care about Tursynbaeva anymore. She had to love everyone saying she can fix anyone (Shoma is next). And there's about a 99% chance Evgenia goes nowhere this year while Tursy is on the rise with Eteri. Nothing better than twisting the knife a bit. And she takes nothing away from any of her students either.

I see a video from TSL, I hit like

I’m already enraptured and I’m only five minutes in! Thanks for the vid. xx

Yaaaas! Thanks y'all! ♡

Thanks for bringing Meagan back!

"And then who is the fake Polish girl who's really Russian" lmao

does anyone know why Kostornaya wasn't in the photo with Shoma? i was looking forward to seeing them together because Kostornaya always speaks highly of him

What is this portrait mode filter Meghan has going on.... fancy

(1) Love Meagan as a guest! She's awesome! (2) Loved the discussion of Weaver/Poje. Given the odd announcement (or lack thereof) there really has been a dearth of articles and information.

Love the three of you together! Btw I would sell my soul to have arms like Meagan's :)

The Grand Prix fields for pairs are so uneven, in part because of Vanessa and Morgan's 5th place at Worlds. Some of the fields are pretty empty and NHK Trophy is completely stacked. There has to be a better way to balance the fields.

Amazing review ❣ love you guys! Watching from Riga Int'l Airport flying to Tbilisi, Georgia.

I've just discovered Dance Moms (I know, what have I been doing with my life?) and am all over the Eteri T pyramid idea. It will be delightfully brutal. Bring it, gents.

About the China city Chongqing, if you know the Hong Kong romantic movie Chungking Express, Chongqing = Chungking, this is how it's pronounced.

Videos with Meagan are the best, the least biased.

please do the tutberidze pyramid !

Cup of China is in Chongqing, which is a huge city of over 30 million people bordering Sichuan Province (used to be a part of Sichuan). Chongqing is one of the cities like Beijing and Shanghai that are administratively on the same level as a province. It will be great for Sichuan cuisine. I think it could be really interesting to visit.

FYI -- Sarah and TJ have to go senior internationally this year because Sarah turned 19 this past September (well before the July 1st cutoff for this current season) so she's age ineligible for juniors starting this season...

Dave in an aside, "You have to fire your agent" then when it wasn't noticed, Dave again, "You need to fire your agent." lol. OMG Dave gives me such life!

Go Yuzuru.

Omg please do the pyramids!! Meagan looks great! You guys made my day.

I miss Gracie. But, the jump rotations are slow. I'd hate another COR.

Nice episode! I hope next time that the guests audio would be a bit louder or the hosts audio a little less loud ;)

I think Evgeny Plushenko has three sons. The youngest one, Sasha is his only biological one though. The older ones are his wife’s sons with her previous partner and maybe they never picked up skating in their early years.

Dave and Johnathan, Chongquin is a huge ancient city in the interior of China that maybe you know as "Chungking" (the old English pronunciation). I think you'l like it. See you at Cup of China :)

Meagan is so healthy looking - love her insight and positivity. For the record I would want NHK too!

Eteri and I know what is going on! Classic

Ting... T_T Poor girl needs to heal and take time to take command of her skating and not let her father meddle too much. Parents meddling too much and thinking they can coach better than actual coaches never ends well... this is so infuriating. Now it all makes sense as to why she did not attend any of the jumping based camps during the summer.

How does one access the Patreon (sp?) videos? I'd love to see them. Thanks! Love TSL!

Jonathan, you HAVE to go to Cup of China and Chongqing, the largest city in the world (30 million people, big as Austria), but the city no one ever heard of...and we would expect a full report later:-)

i have a feeling kostornaia might end up like tsurkaya...the eteri method has proven v dangerous for skaters with proper jumps, plus the injury

Markova was my FAVORITE!

I think Chock & Bates are going to make a big resurgence this season.

You mentioned Maria Buterskaya! A woman who couldn't bend her knees for a jump landing if her life depended on it.

Hm since you have an insider at the city where Hanyu trains (Meagan Duhamel), we'll have to get some inside scoop or an interview of some sort from Brain Orsers troop

Tang/Yang were Juniors last year. They were 4th at Junior Worlds.

rusfed is pitting kosto and zagi to decide who they'll support and drop. medvedeva is always a favorite, has fed and big names backing her up and trusova is the new star, they purposefully put the "artistic vs technical" for their case. but for kosto vs zagi, kosto is always consistent and she isnt growing up so i'd say zagi is the one in danger.

I think it’s still too early to give Gracie a GP 🤔

Are Polina Kostiukovich/Dmitrii Ialin moving to senior level this year?

Great way to spend Sat afternoon..Skating Lesson upload with Meagan Duhamel

LOL..."there's no way Stolbova can do...any of this."

Lmao Jonathan would love to see you at Cup of China! But I agree with everything Dave said as a Chinese native- China is a lot. And reminder you need a visa too!

I watched starrs long program at egna with my fiance and he just asked what went wrong? So sad..

Meagan looks so good pregnant. Hopefully she keeps the weight on

I'm here for the Moscow pyrimad

Prediction: Madison Chock’s performance beats Meryl Streep for an Oscar next February. She will glide up the red carpet under a golden LA sunset, Smokey eyes and smoldering come hither stare, and gently whisper in the Grand Dame’s ear...”Do Better.”

Great show, guys! Meagan Duhamel was fantastic. She is insightful, intelligent, articulate, and engaging! Any chance she can come on more regularly than once a year now that she is moving into a more domestic existence?

Russian skater now skating for Poland and training in Canada : Kurakova

tings dad just sits in the cafe of the gardens ice house and everytime she does smth wrong, he goes in and talks to her. her spins look slow and weak although her positions are very nice.

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I Love Meagan, she really adds to the discussion. I hope she will become a semi regular for This and That.

lol 1:49:53 - "hard working" vs "talented" google Carol Dweck's research on growth and fixed mindset. The fact that Mishin used the expression "hard working" rather than "talented" says more about Mishin as a coach rather than about Bradie as a skater. (Your opinion on those two phrases also says something about you :P ) I'm sure Mishin just wanted to say something nice about Bradie. Being hard working is not a bad thing in Russian culture. He's not an English native speaker, don't analyze his English words too deeply ;)

I have gone over the Grand Prix eligibility rules with a fine-toothed comb and I still have no idea how Caroline Green & Michael Parsons are eligible for a non-host pick Grand Prix spot.

I'm living for the pyramid. It must happen!

GREAT VIDEO¡¡ and just today it happen another BIG drama¡¡ Danil stolen the choreo of Alinas ex from a famous choreographer, we have to wait ona week for your opinion, but really i hope this is a good reason for alina get a new choreographer,¡¡¡

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Jonathan, it’s not “lecherous” to be attracted to an attractive skater. Speaking of, I wish Tim Dolensky would stick around for one more season so he could get the Skate America TBD and I would definitely go to Vegas. His chest cleavage makes me feel lecherous. Just kidding. I’m not ashamed. Nathan Chen is awesome!

Omg Yas bish !!!!! And Meghan Yeay ahhh

Jonathon needs to sit the hell back, .. thank god I don't have 3D .. I can't sit any further back in my chair.

Korean ice show: are yuna andMorgan sending us a message that they will be phasing Vanessa James out 20-21 season? The posts out of that show seem to point in that direction?? Yuna and Morgan definitely SHONE there.......

Oh man - the Eurosport commentary after Michelle Kwan's Red Violin at 2000 Worlds is forever seared into my brain - "Maybe not as good as Butyrskaya - *no one's* as good as Butyrskaya artistically." Just....what?!

Why can Trusova not quad in the short?

I thought Maria Butyrskaya was a wonderful elegant skater and often better than irina. sorry poor analogy.

The Ladies events are going to be so interesting. The depth in Russia is crazy. Interesting to see how the pairings of Zagitova/Kostornaia and Medvedeva/Trusova will play out. Not to forget Shcherbakova who is competing against Tuktamysheva and Tursynbaeva in both her events. I was surprised that Sotskova and Sakhanovich got one spot each. I was sure that either Anastasia Gubanova or Anna Tarusina would get two - both of them were guaranteed at least one spot as they are in the top SB24 list, but I guess Russia ran out of spots which is crazy. And after eleven consecutive years at GP, we won't see Alena Leonova this season. And btw, Butyrskaya never did Cup of Russia, another top Russian skater who just didn't want to go there.

The ladies are allowed quads in the free but not the short like the men. The sport is growing... it's like they are preventing the ladies from getting better

A. Zagitova WILL get higher PCS than A. Kostornaia, even on A. Zagitova's off day. Not that she deserves it.

Why is Vincent doing Rostelecom? The way Meghan described it, as a World medalist, wouldn't he have better choices?

Their only excited to go to Vegas, until they see the hotel there event is being held in! It's not on the Strip and is super tacky, even by Vegas standards! Lol.

Pls! Give me time cords, someone!

Aside from SS, Rika's components are not better than Medvedeva

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i've listened just one segment about trusova, and once again there's a huge dose of ignorance. does TSL have even the slightest clue about skating? trusova was not trying to immitate shoma cantilever. and shoma cantilever is not "more beautiful". it's a bullshit cantilever. he touches the ice with his arm, while trusova is doing it in a proper way, without the help of her arms, which is ten times more difficult. shoma had a proper cantilever when he was young, but now he can't do it anymore, since he's old and rusty, he's doing only an "arm version" nowdays. so what was happening in the video, sasha was riding in her cantilever and got tired, so she looked at shoma to see why he is still going, is he tired or not, then she saw that this little cheater is riding on his arm, so she did it as well. to make sure that her cantilever will last longer. "more bend" my ass