This Charming Band: The Smiths Twisted History

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In a musical partnership that would last barely 5 years, Morrissey, Johnny Marr , Andy Rourke & Mike Joyce- THE SMITHS - would forge a body of work that was entirely unique, and defied the norms of their contemporaries. With 70 original songs, Manchester's The Smiths created a poetic post-punk romantic soundtrack for the 1980s. They leaned into sensitive poetry and jangling guitars at a moment when drum machines and synths were king. So why did this incredible band break up, right at the peak of their powers and popularity? In this video we delve into the early creative influences of Morrissey and Johnny Marr, their meeting, the prolific career of The Smiths, and what brought everything crashing down.
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00:00 Intro
00:40 Morrissey: early influences
02:17 Johhny Marr: early influences
03:49 The Moors Murders
04:48 If Morrissey was In The Clash
06:34 Moz and Marr cross paths
07:50 I was just there, dying, and he rescued me.
10:30 What’s in a name?
11:21 The Smiths first demo
12:17 Mike Joyce
13:56 The Smiths first show
14:56 Andy Rourke
16:32 Hand In Glove & John Peel
18:33 The Smiths (1984)
20:16 Hatful Of Hollow (1984)
20:52 Meat Is Murder (1985)
23:22 The Queen Is Dead (1986)
25:09 Liberating The Queen
26:58 Still Ill
29:23 The World Won’t Listen & Louder than Bombs
30:17 Strangeways, Here We Come (1987)
31:25 I Know It’s Over

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@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

Watch now: David J Interview re: hanging out with Bowie on the set of The Hunger kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jtujZ86Y0LOUYZc.html

@ecfan-addict9477 10 ай бұрын

Of the copious letters that Morrissey wrote to the music papers when he was young, one became unintentionally hilarious: in response to their cover of Bowie's "John I'm Only Dancing" he said that if the Polecats had any imagination, they would shoot themselves. Polecats guitarist Boz Boorer later became Morrissey's longest-running collaborator and musical director.

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

Haha awesome story!! Thanks Ec!

@amitcohen3034 6 ай бұрын

What amazing in this story is the fact that people who do not consider themselves as friends can make such a good music together.

@rocdocs 6 ай бұрын

They must have at one point just gelled completely, seems - but yeah they drifted apart so quickly and drastically! Ever see the “moz steals marrs bike” bit on Portlandia? So good

@Amber_xo_133 Ай бұрын

RIP Andy Rourke🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

@rocdocs Ай бұрын

Amen.

@user-lo5qm5tu8m 26 күн бұрын

Morrissey and Marr were God's! Rourke and joyce were the greatest rhythm section in modern music💔i still haven't got over the break up, there will NEVER be another band like them 🥰

@thatsafactjacksampson 10 ай бұрын

Dennis, I don't want to resort to hyperbole, but these docs are masterpieces. I have to keep pausing and rewinding them to take in all the fact you present! And you break it up with humor and cool artwork. A real treat for a music history nut like myself.

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

Jack - this means the world to me, seriously. Thank you!

@thatsafactjacksampson 10 ай бұрын

@@rocdocs Thank YOU. And, since I always leave you with trivia: the song "A Rush and a Push and the Land is Ours" isn't about British colonialism, it's about the Irish retaking their land from the Engish.

@countrymousejewelry 2 ай бұрын

Same!!!!! Last night I was wstching the cramps doc n I was rewinding n rewatching all night long! I couldn't stay awake n I was driving my bf crazy dropping my phone etc❤😅❤what can I say I'm stubborn i guess

@ThatGuy-ky2yf 10 ай бұрын

RIP Andy Rourke

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

Totally. He was a great bass player and seemed like a nice guy too.

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

I love that I call Moz a "music singer.' WTF does that even mean. I had to leave it in!

@AtZero138 2 ай бұрын

Hahaha.. could be worse... They get called "Goth" now... Music Singer. We can agree, less offense..

@TyrellBonneymusic 8 ай бұрын

Best video about the smiths and so in depth. You’ve done your homework Dennis great job!

@rocdocs 8 ай бұрын

Tyrell thank you so much! Appreciate you stopping by and the kind comment!

@mrgainz1344 Ай бұрын

The most original band! The best lyrics the best unique sound!

@rocdocs Ай бұрын

Right on! Thanks gainz for watching

@spillyjane 10 ай бұрын

Great doc, Dennis!!

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

Thank you kindly, Miss Jane!

@qibble455 9 ай бұрын

Great stuff. Rock on Dennis:)

@rocdocs 9 ай бұрын

Thanks Qibble! Appreciated!

@imsorryforarguingbut4555 2 ай бұрын

lovely video, you went into an impressive amount of depth here. must have taken a lot of research :)

@rocdocs 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@dennishough3709 10 ай бұрын

Yes!! Among my favorite bands!! Thank you,

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

Mine too! Thanks for being the first comment and one of the first views!

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

Are you going to see Moz on tour?

@Mongo42089 2 ай бұрын

I kept switching over to relive all the songs listed that I had forgotten or just wanted to hear again. And if there's anything I relearned today, it's just how much I never truly appreciated Andy Rourke's badass basslines.

@rocdocs 2 ай бұрын

They really are special. When you go back and listen- they were closely aligned with Marr and they were essential to each other

@skeeterd5150 10 ай бұрын

I read fletchers book. Quite the tome . With that book as a reference I’m surprised you only kept this to 33 minutes.

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

It was a main source, also moz and Marr autobiographies. You are so right- there was a ton that I omitted! Tried to get the main events and interesting bits and include some details about each record. Thanks for watching and commenting !

@samajax 3 ай бұрын

Funky Si lucked out, his main front man turned out to be Mark E. Smith. His drums were perfect when blended with The Fall.

@starrsparkle-wz7qd 2 ай бұрын

I LOVED THIS VIDEO SO MUCH AHHHSHSBSNS

@rocdocs 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@StarsandBarsRecords 5 ай бұрын

Kirsty Maccoll did not sing on Big Mouth Strikes Again. She sang background vocals on Ask and Golden Lights.

@rocdocs 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for the correction.

@user-lo5qm5tu8m 26 күн бұрын

it was Morrissey himself, Kirsty also Sang on Morrissey's single oujia board😮

@StarsandBarsRecords 26 күн бұрын

@@user-lo5qm5tu8m Yep, and I'll do you one better. It was Moz's voice fed thru an Eventide harmonizer which pitched his vocal up to sound like the female soul singers of his favorite 50s and 60s songs. Credited on the album as "backing vocals by Ann Coates" which is a cheeky reference to an area of the Smiths hometown of Manchester called Ancoats.

@audiolego 10 ай бұрын

And the. Joyce and Rourke was in the last of the international playboys video. Almost a reuniom

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

Almost! That’s one of the last things mentioned in the video, coincidentally! Thanks for watching and commenting

@audiolego 10 ай бұрын

@@rocdocsI'm getting into the Morrissey albums like Your Arsenal and Bona Drag albums these days. I'll be ordering those cds tomorrow and get the others as well later. I'm a Smiths fan but during Morrissey early years, I got into the Rave Techno genre(89-92) . I didn't appreciate Moz even though my friend Joey was so idolizing him. Now I'm liking and appreciating those records.

@ThatGuy-ky2yf 10 ай бұрын

@@audiolego Viva Hate, Your Arsenal, Vauxhall & I and You are the Quarry are all fantastic. Morrissey can be a confusing man but he largely resonated on those works imo.

@audiolego 10 ай бұрын

@@ThatGuy-ky2yf there's a video of him doing a studio session and nailing it every time .

@rocdocs 10 ай бұрын

@@audiolego I also stepped away after the Viva Hate - Interesting Drug period (which I love)! Returning to hear more of his work that I missed really is a joy. I dont love every thing he says but I do still enjoy his music! And of course, the Smiths are a moment of musical magic.

@GoldAmple 8 ай бұрын

Will you do a video such as this for The Cure?

@rocdocs 8 ай бұрын

Hi gold! I just did one on Robert smith and siouxsie- seems like there would be a lot of overlap there. Did you see that one?

@greatshakinfever2009 4 күн бұрын

No reference to the obvious influence of Rockabilly, The Cramps and even goth music. But very good documentary.

@cobra5088 4 ай бұрын

Enjoyed the documentary! I always thought the smoking woman on the louder than bombs cover was a homeless woman..lol. For whatever reason I always associated her with the song shoplifters of the world unite. I thought being homeless she's probably stealing food for survival..lol

@rocdocs 4 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏 appreciate the kind words. It’s funny the impression album covers give isn’t it?

@patronsaintofhorses1747 2 ай бұрын

My mum bought me T Rex's first album when I was 3 as I apparently sang Telegram Sam constantly and I begged her to call my younger brother Marc which she did. To know Johnny had the same taste as me makes me feel...fantastic. He's my ultimate guitar hero.

@rocdocs 2 ай бұрын

Very cool story

@countrymousejewelry 2 ай бұрын

Hi, have you done anything on Nina Haagen? Id love to see that. Omg i can think of so many id love to see you cover❤also wendy 0 and the Plasmatics..

@rocdocs 2 ай бұрын

“CBGB’s video ( part 2) touches on the plasmTics!

@areamusicale 9 ай бұрын

HIHIHI! ... I am a vegetarian too, but I hardly even told my friends! Infact I did all the opposite: with my rock band we used to take the p1ss on vegans ... my point of view was: if you like meat eat it, don't pretend you don't want to! I never liked meat and so I stopped eating it. Simple as that!

@countrymousejewelry 2 ай бұрын

Good 👉 point

@countrymousejewelry 2 ай бұрын

Now I can find out why the 19 yr old bf of my daughter thinks they are the best band ever..as a musician myself i wonder why people like what they like. I just duscovered yhese docus last night and theyre $0ooooooofrickin good!!!! A Morrissey gronted version of the Clash lmao

@rocdocs 2 ай бұрын

Thank you Rebecca!!! I really appreciate that!!!