Kellen Moore is from my hometown and those years he started dor Boise State was some of the most electric years in CFB history. It was a damn shame what the NCAA was doing to these "smaller" schools that showed that they could hang with the big dogs every year. Boise State had some of the most dominant years ever and they were still weren't taking seriously in the rankings

What always got me during that season was ESPN was singing TCU’s praises for being (correctly so) an amazing team. During conference championship week, ESPN was even suggesting that if Nebraska beat Texas, then TCU could play in the BCS championship because that’s how good they were. Then when Boise State beat TCU, ESPN turned around and said “wow you barely beat a mountain west team, how do you expect to play with the big boys?”

It's not just a conspiracy, it's fact.

The Frogs and the Broncos could have run with anyone in the country those days. There was probably and effort to minimize the schools. But you can’t minimize the excitement that was…. The play on the field was just too great.

Damn, I've been saying this for years! My dad and I watched the BCS Bowl Game selection show and said to him before any of the bowl games announced, "If they have TCU vs Boise there's serious white collar bullshit going on behind the scenes". My dad hated my cynicism but was in total agreement.

The BCS cabal was self-evident in 2009. When the Orange Bowl passed on TCU and chose 9-4 Va. Tech, leaving the undefeated Horned Frogs, with wins over Clemson, Virginia, and Utah (which had defeated 'Bama in the 2008 Sugar Bowl) for the Fiesta's second selection to take on Fiesta's first pick, Boise, it was unquestionable that the fix was in. Plainly the powers were worried that both TCU and Boise would defeat AQ teams and utterly expose the myth of AQ superiority over the best of the mid-majors.

Looking back, those TCU, Boise, and Utah teams all could've won a national championship if they weren't saddled with the G5 moniker. From 2008-2010, at least one of those teams should've gotten a chance, because all of them would've been capable of doing so.

Bcs died the day Kellen Moore took a knee against Georgia in Atlanta.

FBS football is such a weird sport. P5 conferences just hate giving G5 a chance simply because their big brands and big money. I always confused by those people who refused bigger playoffs, they thought the games would be blowouts, and G5 shouldn't be in the conversation with P5. In my opinion, if we have FCS playoff system in FBS, in the long term, recruiting will be much different and give chances for G5 to build their brands because those new playoff spots. As a neutral fan, I really wish to see more more faces.

I’m a UF alum and I wanted Florida to play Boise State or TCU. It was such bullshit that they matched up TCU and Boise State in the same bowl game.

I would love to see an SEC team play a game in November or December in Laramie, Boise , Provo, Fort Collins or Reno.

I’ll tell you what, those Mountain West and WAC conference games were FUN back in the day. Utah, Boise State, TCU, and Hawaii all made BCS appearances within a few year span. Part of me wishes they would’ve all come together instead of going their separate ways and (some) joining P5 conferences.

It started when Boise St. beat Oklahoma & it was made worse when Utah upset Alabama. Alot of powerful people lost alot of money. Every since that happened the establishment made sure it wasn't going to happen again.

As a boise state fan, this infuriated everyone in idaho

Boise state has offered every major school a home and home and 99% of them won't play Boise state. They'll play all them division 2 teams but don't want anything to do with Boise. Just too bad they had to get rid of the small schools entirely with paying players now. It's a shame because Boise state will always be dominate in any division they play.

this video is further proof that NCAA basketball tourney to superior to the NCAA FB bowl system...in BB, you'd get to see a 30-1 team from a "lower" conference get its shot at a 29-5 P5 school..on paper, the P5 should dominate, but on the hardwood, the game could go either way

When you say that SEC schools go through a tough SEC schedule, are you referring to their 8 game conference schedule or their schedule that include creme puffs/sisters of the poor?

I always thought that one second given to Texas helped form some cracks in the Big XII

Living here in Boise and growing up during their rise, even though I’m a USC Trojans fan all the way, the urge to have them or TCU (somewhat of rivals) play a big boy school was always an itch but it was just a big risk for the big school to take. The what ifs of sports!

BCS was a huge fraud the mysterious and all knowing "Computer" was a bunch of dudes in a back room trying to figure out what championship matchup would attract the most the most money. The playoff is the same, it's not about deciding who the best team is, it's all about cash.

I still have that first droid in a drawer somewhere… the slide keyboard was kinda cool back then

Playing devils advocate. TCU has only had 3 10+ win seasons since joining the Big 12 so yeah it’s very plausible they never deserved a chance to play for the BCS title. A lot of 7 and 6 win seasons since 2012

I was so thrilled to see Boise State beat TCU!! Kellen is still a hero in Boise.. as he should be. Go Broncos!!!! 😁💙🧡🐴🏈

I'll never knock a team for a weak schedule. The players and coaches don't decide who they play. Beat all opponents, get a shot at a title.

it was less about The Teams And Their Ranking and more About The TV Ratings

May we never forget Kellen Moore, no Division I quarterback will ever approach 50 career wins

Odd fun fact,Boise and TCU where part of my dream schools( ECU and Texas tech also) that I wanted to play ball at. Got a 3rd string offer from Boise and Kick off team for Texas tech,in the end didnt go with either an went to culinary school. Allot of info for no reason but cool to see both programs in a video

There was absolutely a conspiracy, those 2 teams were scaring the powers that be all year. They knew both teams had a real shot of showing up anyone in the country and watching the Fiesta bowl vs the national title game they were right. The Fiesta bowl was the real national title game, both teams could have beaten Texas or Bama

I'm not a fan of either team, On Wisconsin! Pardon me, that happens from time to time. I remember at the time thinking that BSU, definitely got screwed out of a national title, opportunity. Their season averages were as good, and actually in a lot of categories BSU had better numbers than alabama. Albeit against "lesser opponents", but we had 2 really good undefeated teams that should have faced off. Keep in mind that BSU outscored, gave up less yards, out threw, threw less interceptions, had more first downs and punted less than alabama. It definitely would have been a fun game to watch. But my money would have been on the winningest qb in college football history and the Broncos to take it.

i think boise state back then would have annihilated texas, but omg we cant have a non qual in the national championship, and we never saw what we should have

I think what really bugged me about this wasn't just the #4TCU vs #6BSU as much as we just watch this game the year before when they were #11 and #9 and played each other. As fans we wanted to see if they can hang with the big boys for a game and never got that chance. Or was the NCAA still scared of what BSU did to Oklahoma in 06 who everyone thought was the best team that year and didn't want it to happen twice in one year this time around.

I'm tired of hearing about this mid majors would never be able to play a power 5 schedule. Everyone seems to forget the fact that if the mid majors (Boise, UCF, ect ) played in the power 5 they would have more access to power 5 players. Right now they are pulling 2-3 star athletes. Just being in the power 5 opens up their recruiting tremendously, thus improving their roster, thus making them even more competitive, thus making them able to play with the "big boys".

Yes, there was a conspiracy to prevent non auto qualifiers from playing qualifiers. Why? Aside from a Hawaii/Georgia BCS bowl game, the non auto Qualifiers won every time. The BCS school presidents that are running their mouths are the same guys that have never been a school president of a non BCS school. Why aren't we hearing from the guys who've been at both, such as Bernie Machen? That guy was at both Utah and Florida. He hired Urban Meyer for the head coaching job at both schools.

And due to this. TCU and Boise State have never been the same since. Be on one of the top squads in the country but I’m in Boise so I fall hard in the draft due to it. Sad seeing boring football played by the SEC week after week when the small schools that played on innovation are being sapped by bigger programs. Went from a constant thrill ride better than any sport to less of an entertaining product than minor league baseball

2011 Sugarbowl Virginia Tech vs. Michigan. IT WAS A CATCH!!!

I Remember that Year Vividly. It was Very Disappointing but was Inevitable.

Not talked about enough is how Boise was only two years removed from their victory over Oklahoma in the fiesta bowl, which is seen as among one of the greatest football games played at any level. They proved that they can stand up to the big dogs. Most would agree that the 2009 squad was far better than the 2007 squad.

Yes! It is the same way that Utah got screwed the previous year. I once sat down and mapped out all the bowl games with all the conferences... You could totally create a winner takes all tournament using the existing bowl games to decide the national championship. It has stuck in the big conference's craw ever since BYU was awarded the National championship in 1984. In their defence they either defeated every other major contender or beat the team that beat the other contenders that particular year and finished as the only undefeated team. But they were an inferior team from an inferior conference and therefore didn't deserve it and the powers-that-be set out to make sure it would never happen again. So every time an upstart small-school dares lift up its head... slap! Behind-the-scene manipulation.

Also let’s not forget Sugar in 2011 picking middling Michigan and a Virginia Tech team who had gotten creamed in ACC championship over a Kellen Moore led team. Sugar was half empty and would’ve been full with Boise against anyone else. What an idiotic business decision.

That blue field captured me as a fan as a kid, but Kellen Moore kept me a fan, also awesome he ended up going to my favorite NFL team

Both of these teams would have gotten boat raced by Florida that year

Imagine if we had the playoff back then. 🤣

despite auburn being in the SEC they suffered from this too the year they had cadillac williams, ronnie brown, and jason cambell. Top 3 offense and defense but they put oklahoma in ahead of them and they got smoked by USC because they didnt belong there

Nebraska got so fucked over, there never should have been any time remaining let alone review it

there was 1 second left on the clock in the texas gm its clear as day like what...

Not really a conspiracy per say, but more of a “what if” situation that revolves around Rich Rodriguez’s career. What if he went to Alabama when offered the job. Alabama would not have had the success it has had since Nick Saban was their coach. Another what if is what if rich Rodriguez won that game against Pitt and stayed at wvu. At the time wvu got 5 star Noel Devine and was set to get Terrelle Pryor the next season. Terrelle Pryor in wvu’s offense would have continued Pat White’s success.

Good video! I would advise that you work on adding new variations to your inflections. Every sentence has the exact same shape that makes it somewhat difficult to listen to and takes some attention away from your actual points. You wouldn't need to force a change too hard; just don't end each sentence with the same up and down voice pattern. Hope that advice is welcome and you keep up the good work! :~)

TCU fan here absolutely true at one point Kirk Herbstreit Findlay just straight up said TCU just did Not have enough fans.even now in the Big XII look they just robed it taking UT & OU so they can once again put up that argument. Same teams every year has been booring as a National Championship game Alabama is making college football as booring as F1 Lewis Hamilton& Michael Schumacher 7 year championships in that sport that is a decade & a half two winners most of the time next 30 years. I mean SEC is the National Champions most of the time. I really think the US is the land of opportunity where the underdog can get ahead and today the rich get richer and larger schools have pushed out TCU the smaller schools just reflects the authoritarian society we have become made college football less appealing now too.

My favorite college football conspiracy is how these schools managed to sell their students’ likenesses to EA games and others for decades while also criminalizing said players receiving a single dollar for their work lmao

Everybody know TCU got screwed in back to back years. Fun Fact TCU was named Natl Champs in 2010 even though Auburn won.

Don't forget the 2012 season in which Notre Dame was the media darling all year, despite escaping two close calls to inferior teams, just to get mopped all over the field by Bama in the championship. If you want to know just how shady the rankings are, look no further than the yearly circle jerk around Notre Dame.

It's not a conspiracy it's a fact

The NCAA will always make sure that the big schools will never be left out.

Not gonna lie, as a Canadian who likes sports but doesn't follow US college football, I have absolutely no idea what is going on here

TCU has been robbed of 2 playoff opportunities, and they could have definitely won it all in 2014

I know for a fact that Boise State would’ve beaten most of the SEC teams

The BCS absolutely kept non-automatic qualifying conference teams down. There is a whole litany of them during the run of the BCS and it is even worse now. Western Michigan went undefeated in '16 and didn't get into the playoff despite being one of only two undefeated teams in 1-A that year. Central Florida still claims a National Title for their undefeated 2017 season when they weren't selected as one of the four playoff participants, despite being the only undefeated Division 1-A team at the end of that regular season, and then their 2018 squad was denied *again* after an undefeated regular season. Two undefeated regular seasons in a row and they couldn't even sniff an invite to the playoff. I wish there wasn't so much money at stake so that the non-P5 teams would be more willing to just not play the P5 squads. Maybe set up their own season and tournament or something. I hate it.

I’m a longhorn fan I got so drunk off 75cent keystones during the title game

Those late 2010 Boise teams NEVER getting a shot at a title is baffling to me. They were good. Hell they beat ou with a statue of liberty one of the best David Goliath moments ever. They should claim at least one title same as ucf did after 2 straight undefeated seasons. Bcs failed the little guy. Also imagine an undefeated power 5 team in Utah not playing for a title.

wheres the sound

As seperate to the information of this video, I would like someone to explain to me why Texas made the national championship over TCU. Now selection for the BCS in 2009 came from 66% weight ranking of human polls of the AP, Coaches and Harris Polls and 33% BCS computer polls. I understand that there would be some variability on the computer based polling to a certain degree but statistically Texas clearly made the selection over TCU. The problem is I don’t see any reason why they were. In terms of performance on the season, TCU beat both ranked opponents by a larger margin of victory and averaged a larger margin of victory on the season than UT. On offense was ranked #5 in total offense by SRS, #3 in total offense by SP+ and by the NCAA Offensive Production they ranked #4. On defense they ranked #1 in the country across SP+ and SRS. Now for everyone favorite comparison of P5 and G5 teams - SOS. At face value TCU should get the nod as per the BCS rankings they beat more and higher ranked opponents than Texas: TCU: beat #12 BYU 38-7, #18 Utah 55-28 and #20 Clemson 14-10. Texas: beat #13 Nebraska 13-12, #19 Oklahoma State 41-14 But very often the number of ranked wins and what ranked team you beat has historically not mattered for G5 teams, so let’s look at how SOS was actually calculated at the time. Per the BCS SOS was measured by “determining the cumulative won/loss records of the team's opponents and the cumulative won/loss records of the teams' opponents' opponents. The formula shall be weighted two-third (66 2/3%) for the opponent's record and one-third (33 1/3%) for the opponents' opponents record.” Now I actually went through and did the full scale calculation for both Texas and TCU and this is what I found: Texas - opponents records: 87-78 - Opp-opp records: 1117-958 - 0.348 + 0.183 = 0.531 TCU - opponents records: 80-69 - Opp-opp records:1036-799 - 0.354 + 0.184 = 0.538 So even statistically speaking TCU had a superior SOS than Texas. So how is it that a team with a greater margin of victory, better defense, better SOS and only ranked 1 spot behind Texas on offense, somehow got ranked two spots behind Texas by the BCS?

It sounds like it pains this guy to talk.

If you could go back and add the 4 team playoff to these years…. Things would be interesting

It's funny that Cincinnati would be the blocker in this scenario as they were essentially on the outside too.

Does anyone ever wonder if Boise state would have made the natty that 2010 season? If I’m not mistaken I believe it was Alabama v Notre dame that year. I feel like it would be hard to deny them after all those undefeated seasons in a row a a couple fiesta bowls

Bosie State is STILL ballin out

Me personally I feel that with NIL and the Transfer portal you will have G5 Schools With money like for example SMU & UTSA use that money they have😂 and use it On NIL to bro g in players

It's just Power 5 elitism at its finest

This video just shows that there should be a minimum 16 team maximum 24 team playoff

What a lot of people don’t realize is that had Texas lost, Texas or Florida would have likely played in the title anyway. This happened in 2003, when OU got blown out in the Big 12 title game, and still came out as the BCS number 1. The computers always favor the bigger conferences. Also, what the video really glosses over is that the Big East was still around which is why Cincy got an automatic bid. The Big East was really trending down after the defection of Miami, Florida St, and Boston College. Talks of them losing their automatic bid were already in the works and when five more schools left in the coming years, it was a done deal. Not many people thought that highly of Cincy and them playing Florida was not much different than TCU or Boise playing Florida. Having said that, I believe both TCU and Boise would have played Florida better, but doubt either could beat them with it being Tebow’s last game. And yes, it was really stupid to have TCU and Boise play each other, but I don’t subscribe to the conspiracy theory. I think the Fiesta Bowl picked the best teams for the best matchup and the Rose Bowl’s Big Ten/PAC 10 history limited the options. Unfortunately, it didn’t line up with what we the fans wanted and thus we’ll never know if they’d have upset an Ohio State, Oregon or Iowa.

They will get it straight 2024… Top 12 Teams…

The BCS was rigged so the major conferences got all the money. The president of the BCS was the president of the SEC and the AD of one of the SEC programs. When BSU not only beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl, but also held the best running back in the nation to less than 100 yards shocked everyone.

Yeah this game was the beginning of the end for the BCS, everyone hated them even more after this

They ruined college football because of it

Interesting though. My other comment was comment number 500 and only one single comment is showing. Someone didn’t get the responses they expected…

How could these smaller schools ever show they belong if they don’t get the opportunity? Well scheduling strong OOC opponents for one. But they never did that. That’s why they didn’t beling

Being a Boise State my whole life and going to these games, I felt this was the golden age of college football. Now the sport has become so much more bland that it's just SEC dominated every year. The only teams that make the CFP are usually Alabama, Georgia, LSU, and if you're lucky maybe Ohio State makes it. I'd even be happy just to see USC in the top 5 again. With the southeast dominance, every year of this sport is so predictable. Not as fun as it used to be.

I have always said the west (in general) has some of the most innovative football I have seen. I wish that eastern teams should play western teams more often. It causes a stale product, when there is no diversity in scheduling.

Good video however TCU did not “upset” Wyoming in the 2011 as TCU was favored.

You may not remember, but Florida beat Cincinnati really bad…2010 in the bowl…51-24

Most Power 5 schools don't want playoffs. They want to keep the big bowls for themselves because it means more money for their schools and conferences. Personally I thought BCS was a joke from the beginning, and have been pushing for 16 teams. This would provide the same number of rounds as the FCS playoffs, but include more teams. All FBS conference champions would receive an automatic bid, and the remaining spots would be wild cards. Let them play on the field to decide who the best team is, giving all FBS conferences a chance.

Fucn fact: the QB of the Nevada team that beat Boise State was Colin Kaepernick 😯

Chris Petersen had Boise St right as well as Washington

I hated the BCS system, and think that the two round "play-off" is more or less the same thing -- unfair systems where 40% of the teams have no prayer of even sniffing the championship game even if the run the table. But in all fairness, you could maybe argue that this is just a system that's closer to rendition that we see in other country's sports leagues, and not like the play-off oriented systems that we're used to here. FIFA uses a lot of rendition for their non-American club leagues: different leagues exists in given countries, ranked by quality/competitiveness. You move up and down based on performance. Arguably, if you're a mid-major, your job isn't to compete for a national title, its to impress the Power conferences so that you can move into one to compete for a national title potentially. Its a deviation from what we're used to, but not necessarily quite as unheard of or unfair as you would think.

It was a conspiracy!!!

Money controls people

The SEC should have scheduled Boise State in non-con to test the theory.

Whether or not you folks want to hear this, short of the alumni of the weaker teams (Boise, TCU) and fans in that state, the vast majority of America doesn’t care about the underdog and the narrative is well over done. It’s not rocket science. This is the same reason the NFL doesn’t flex a pair of competitive 8-8 teams to a national game short of when one of the other teams is a big draw. Any other time…..they’ll pass. Or they’ll take a bigger name with a bad record 100% of the time. The Packers, for example, will never be flexed out of a game. Nobody cares about the middle of the pack teams scraping by to compete against the heavy hitters. That’s just a fact. Boise State was never going to change that. No matter how good they were. Fair? To fans of the 12-0 team? No. But. Would football watching America rather see 11-1 Texas play 10-2 Georgia for the right to claim a national title should all 3 teams in the top 3 finish 11-1. See how that works? Not a conspiracy, even if Boise finished 12-0, they still didn’t travel the same road as those other 3 11-1 teams. That’s why they don’t just hand teams the crown based on record and when that happened they STILL asked the AP and coaches. This screaming that undefeated teams get the short end need to come back to the fact coaches and ap voters could change it, and always could have, but they don’t or didn’t. There is no way Boise, if the coaches or AP voted them 1 unanimously, would be held out of a top bowl. But they were. Because unlike coaches and the AP, fans cherish under dogs. They see themselves in them. Coaches and AP voters look at what team has 6-7-8 future NFL stars on them and how those kids will match up to similar competition. They don’t care about Kellen Moore’s dominance over a bunch teams that are desperately out of the AP polling all together. Really, competition matters. Sorry to be such a bummer here. But an 12-0 WMU team that beats Akron and Miami Ohio isn’t as good as an 11-1 Ohio State team that only lost to Iowa and beat 6 other ranked teams.

Florida was going to boat race any team in that bowl game

Great video but I disagree on 2:49. I think most agree that Boise State and TCU definitely could hold their own against Alabama/Texas in 2009 and even an SEC/Big 12/B1G schedule, but at the end of the day, Alabama and Texas were more deserving of the national title game spot because they had a tougher schedule(based on ranking, talent, team expenditure, etc.) than TCU/Boise during the season and since only two teams could play for the championship at the time, it's about who deserves it, which while it's a shame that there isn't a playoff system that could accommodate all of them, Texas and Alabama deserved those two spots the most of the 5 undefeated teams. With that said, Boise State and TCU should've played other teams in the BCS, rather than each other. It felt as ripped off now as it did, granted it did give a great game

I just hate the “weekly gauntlet” argument. Every SEC team gets a free fcs game once year, plays teams like Vanderbilt (and one other really bad team, depending on the year) and only has 8 conference games.

That quote at the end from the dude from the SEC and Big 10 is such horse shit. And it has always been. It's the argument ppl continue to have to this very day on tv and otherwise. These Power 5 conferences don't have top to bottom incredible leagues every yr. And they never have. MOST of the power 5 schools aren't qualifying for the CFP. Everything is Top Heavy. In the CFP era only Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma, Clemson & Georgia have at least 2 appearances in the title game. No conference even deserve any type of AQ status besides the SEC. It's just bullshit to keep the rich rich. NIL is going to continue to change the landscape. I can't wait to see what College Football looks like in 3 yrs bc of NIL.

All you have to do is follow the money!! The big schools are so arrogant that they feel that all the rest of us peons don't deserve to play them. Enter the 2008 Sugar Bowl where Utah destroyed Alabama. BYU beat Utah during the regular season in 2021 and got snubbed again. If I were BYU, and 10-2--beating 5 Pac 12 Teams, I would refuse to play in any bowl except on News Years Day. However, that said, it would be so easy to figure out a college Playoff system. There are 12 conferences; the winners of each conference would have an automatic berth. They then would select 4 more teams that have at least 10 wins and have a playoff system like college basketball using the bowl games as the platform. Easy peasy. Have a good day.

Records and win loss does not mean anything lest you play top 20 teams 3 4 times a yr

The play off are basicaly there for the SEC schools ! Espeascially when Alabama plays nobody tuff for the first 5 game and only play 5 to 6 SEC games a year!

Yeah, whatever

It was definitely a conspiracy. If you allow both of them to play better teams as they say and they both win, how would the major conferences counter that. I remember i was pissed when this happened and to this day still upset about it. I have learned over the years it's all about $ so I don't get upset anymore. People laugh when I tell them it's all a setup then they see it comes true and be like 🤔 I think you maybe right lol.

Get real, Boise state has put less than a hundred players in the NFL. LSU had the entire offense and half the defense in one year drafted.

I’ve never cared for boise bc they DO play cupcake schedules every year and HAVE had chances to move to difference power conferences and turned it down. No they don’t get a chance to go into a natty bc they’ve never deserved it. These tcu teams on the other hand have a better better argument, IF they were in the big 10 at the time. My memory isn’t working so I don’t recall. But Boise played cupcake teams and had ONE good team a year on their schedule. Just Boise butthurt fans

I think you may be yelling more than necessary.