This Extruder is a TPU Beast!
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In this video I show how I print the world's most flexible TPU from Diabase with a shore hardness of 60A. This is cooked spaghetti soft. I printed this with the experimental extruder I designed which uses timing belts to push the filament. I used PEEK-like resin with a metallic green dye from 3DResyns because it looks cool and we need the chemical resistance in a future video. Everything was printed on the Anycubic Photon M3 Max which is a huge printer which works very good.
I used the WhamBam Mutant to mount it so I can turn this printer into the experimental platform. I printed the adapter out of polycarbonate from 3D4Makers on the QidiTech I-fast.
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The equipment I mostly use:
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:48 The new version
1:50 Mounting sequence
3:03 Flexible filament check
4:17 Printing the last resin part
4:52 Squarespace
5:56 Preparing the printer
7:01 Adding the WhamBam Mutant
8:19 Adding the extruder
12:02 First try with flexible filament
12:24 Redesign
14:06 Final attempt
16:07 Printing the world's most flexible filament
17:33 Conclusion
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
Hi everyone! Finally, the files of the Proper Extruder are released! I needed to do some improvements first and now I'm happy enough to share the first version. You can download them for free from my website properprinting.pro/product/proper-extruder/
@didiz01 2 жыл бұрын
Fiberlogy fiberflex 30d is the lowest shore TPU on market! you lied! The Bondtech LGX extruder can print this fine, can yours?
@theofficialczex1708 2 жыл бұрын
@@didiz01 60A is lower than 30D.
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
@@didiz01 30D is similar to 80A so I shouldn't have any problems printing that ;) www.teknorapex.com/thermoplastic-elastomers-and-measuring-shore-hardness-chart
@antesdedormirmanu6789 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think your struder design will work on a cr10v2 if I print it on the same cr10v2??? (sorry I'm from the 3rd world jajajajaja having an cr10 here In Colombia is an very luxury thing) tanks man you are awesome... (I follow you since the beginning trough different accounts... I had to change it every time I change my phone)....
@antesdedormirmanu6789 2 жыл бұрын
Jajajajaja I wrote the comment before I finished the video jajajajaja greetings my friend... 😂😂😂😂
@jjmartell94 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that despite all of the work you've put into this thing you're keeping it free is exactly why the 3d printing community is so great. We're all out here trying to make things better, not only for ourselves but also each other. Bless ya and keep at it.
@mrbmp09 2 жыл бұрын
I believe it's $3.00 very reasonable.
@jjmartell94 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrbmp09 It's pay what you want, so you /can/ pay nothing. $3 is merely the recommendation.
@DeliriousProductions Жыл бұрын
I plan to do the same with my designs as they start rolling out. I know I need money, but I think everyone should benefit from the knowledge of others.
@jjmartell94 Жыл бұрын
@@peenerpan113 I mean, if you're giving something away for free (or pay what you want) there's an implicit understanding that you won't necessarily be making any money off of it, or are at least not expecting to -- Ultimately what you're positing is only really an issue if you had intended to monetize it from the get go.
@LordHonkInc 2 жыл бұрын
All other cool things aside, I think the most amazing part is that you managed something (and by that I mean "printing ninjaflex") that up until just a few years ago many companies - with, like, actual R&D budgets - tried and failed at. That's, I think, the most beautiful thing about the 3D printing "industry": I don't know of any comparable field where the line between "enthusiastic hobbyist" and "professional engineer" lie so close together. Definitely on my short list of things to print if and when I have access to a resin printer (should really check if there's a hackerspace near me, damn my procrastinating xD)
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
It's so cool that with 3D printing the hobbyist is able to create (semi-) professional parts! The biggest part of the work when developing a product is everything but the prototyping phase where I'm in right now. Optimizing the design to make manufacturing cheaper, do functional testing and real life testing, complying to standards, (get back to the drawing board and do this cycle again at each fail) sourcing cheaper parts (test again), marketing, packaging and be better/faster than your competitor. You quickly need a whole team to get things to the market ;) This of course depends on the product, especially consumer electronics requires a lot.
@acorgiwithacrown467 2 жыл бұрын
Computing and software development, theirs very little difference between professional and hobbyist.
@BLBlackDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Take a bow, Jon. Not only for developing an extruder that can handle some of the most difficult materials, but also for giving a real world demonstration of the benefits of rapid prototyping and iterative design. As we say in America, knocked it out of the park.
@oscargill6838 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Amazing work! I was inspired by your last video to develop a belt extruder of my own for this exact reason. I print in Recreus Filaflex 60A filament for work all the time and we constantly get buckling issues as you describe. It's so interesting to watch you go through the same problems as I have been these past 2 months. Your buckling solution is really elegant, I didn't think of it at all! I managed it in a different way, by putting the two drive belts in a slight V shape (about 2mm apart at the top pulley and 1.5mm apart at the bottom). This means there is more pull from the bottom and buckling doesn't happen (unless retraction is higher than 3mm). With this setup I've managed to get my home CR-10 printing at 45mm/s in 60A. Also when my stepper started skipping (like crazy!) I increased the gear ratio - it looks a little silly now but it works a treat! Keep going man! You inspire makers everywhere.
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome! Interesting approach to put it in a V-shape. Awesome that you're printing the same material on the same printer with a similar method!
@BrilliantDesignOnline Жыл бұрын
WOW! I am SUPER impressed. Excellent work sticking it out until you had a usable design. I would like to see something printed that is appropriate for the properties of the material; not sure what that could be, but something that is not just an aesthetic gear, but something that requires 'rubberyness'. Thank you.
@properprinting Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I just designed something functional for this material for the next video. It's simple and small, but an interesting case nonetheless!
@Dystrackshun 2 жыл бұрын
My carpal tunnel is aching just from watching you replace the FEP
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
I'm unfortunately used to it xD
@twoheadedpanthr 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how that belt drive holds up over time, what fails first. Very cool project.
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
Me too! Fun fact, APS tech solutions aps-techsolutions.com/en also uses the same type of belts and I had a great chat with them. They print a lot of Nylon with carbon fiber without any problems. This gives hope!
@matthewweinberger7023 2 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting just setup a silent driver and a gcode loop of 500mm forward and 500 back on a 700mm length of filament
@MkrezyL28E 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like the belt teeth will wear out
@FilipAus 2 жыл бұрын
@@MkrezyL28E these belts last for ages. I've used them on my CNC lathe for over a decade and still haven't changed them out.
@moczikgabor 2 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting My go to belt when grip is important are OptiBelt. We use Optibelt ZR series on toroid winding machines where the back part of the belt is used for friction tensioning the wire, and we tried a ton of belts. Optibelt's rubber compound seems to provide the best grip, uniform wear, ideal hardness, not to rigid and not too soft. The grip might be not important for flexible filaments, because the filament itself might grip on a harder belt, but might be important when one wants to print harder, possibly slippery filaments as well with the same setup. Belt backs can also be coated. We found a company that offers twenty or so coating materials with different hardness, grip, abrasion resistance and so on, especially for the purposes when you want to feed material with the belt, like conveyors and such. The only reason why we don't use them on the toroid machines is cost, mainly. The Optibelt ZR was "good enough" for us so far, and the coated one would't fit the machine easily anyway. Still good to know that it is an existing thing when needed.
@Eluderatnight 2 жыл бұрын
Long term I'd say a grooved bearing on the antideflection area. It will give the belt only one place to go. For grove radius use filament radius in addition to belt thickness.
@Igormeister Жыл бұрын
That 15:38 Eureka moment is pure engineering gold 😄 You have my like, my good Sir! 👌
@supernielsen1223 2 ай бұрын
This have been my favorite tpu extruder ever since this video, i have never printed with an extruder being this good at TPU.
@janetizzy6741 2 жыл бұрын
Oh! I want a pair of those high-speed, blue, gloves. Being able to make adjustments at that speed would be y ideal.
@PattysLab Жыл бұрын
If I can give you some advice, I would mount the spool on a pair of bearing without a cover nor grease (naked bearings) it will really reduce the force required to unwind the spool. This only is for flexible materials ofc
@markwebcraft 2 жыл бұрын
The music selection on this channel is amazing. I love watching your videos, the editing AND engineering are always so well done. Well done sir
@julianerickson595 Жыл бұрын
Holy cow. Thank you so much for providing the design. I needed this.
@Allan-mf1he Жыл бұрын
Like the way this guy approaches problems. Keep at it. brilliant.
@fixfel5787 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like so much time went in this design. Props
@heckyes 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats. This is a triumph. I'm making a note here, huge success.
@djispro4272 Жыл бұрын
Great video! The production quality is incredible, and it is nice that you show off your failures, so even we can learn from them. Great job on the extruder!
@Big3dprinter 2 жыл бұрын
Great job, belts are a perfect idea. It's exactly what they use on a filament production line.
@JeSuisNerd Жыл бұрын
You're consistently one of my favorite 3D printing/maker channels on this whole platform! It's cool to see these experiments that push the boundaries of the hobby, and thank you extra for making the designs public which is incredible for the community
@kingrutse3278 Жыл бұрын
Dude the thread support rods are genius I have my printer mounted to my desk
@mrbmp09 2 жыл бұрын
Try cutting a 0.8mm radius groove into the back of the belt. More grip and better tracking.
@B3ll3r0ph0nt3s 2 жыл бұрын
Really love seeing the design process and also the hardships you had to get through. Your extruder looks and performs like a monster =) Thank you very much for the video!
@3DMusketeers 2 жыл бұрын
DUDE THIS IS AMAZING! Nice work Jon! Love the iteration process on this thing. Excited to print one out and try ourselves!
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Grant! It'd be cool so see it on one of your printers!
@3DMusketeers 2 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting With a Mutant too! Just so we can have some fun!
@ArandomNutter 2 жыл бұрын
Cool to see your current work
@gizelle-s 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, this is awesome. I always look forward to your videos and seeing what you've done. Thanks for making this open to the community as well! Goie werk.
@Zachary3DPrints 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow John, that looks amazing! very well done!
@DEtchells 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!! It was really nice to see the iterative process, as you encountered problems and engineered solutions for each in turn. Great work, great vid!!
@802Garage Жыл бұрын
This was such an awesome journey. Great work!
@jeffh4581 2 жыл бұрын
Gefeliciteerd man. Geweldig om te zien hoe je vooruit gaat. Ga zo door!
@JustinDaze 2 жыл бұрын
So satisfying watching these parts fit perfectly together.
@LisaHarsh 2 жыл бұрын
This just made me smile. So very cool engineering you did there. Congratulations
@hithere2561 2 жыл бұрын
This thing is BEAUTIFUL!!
@johngardiner2178 2 жыл бұрын
epic designing and another cool project
@michaelgonzalez8863 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Congratulations on an great design!
@andrewdok3595 Жыл бұрын
awesome extruder. So unbelievable result. So titanous work
@jameschu8912 Жыл бұрын
pretty cool design, thanks for sharing.
@whisperino 2 жыл бұрын
i feel so happy with you my friend! great success!
@wekkimeif7720 Жыл бұрын
Right no one had created extruder before this that could print TPU perfectly
@ggate01 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and even better accomplishment! I’m new to the 3D game and glad to have stumbled on this video. Excited to see all your past and future content. Congrats.
@lavernaykevin6296 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats man this amazing work. Thanks for sharing this with us
@johnnig3589 2 жыл бұрын
CONGRATS BRO!!!!! no small feat, i have been following the development, i am so happy for you that the belt drive worked, am thinking adding it to my own printer, but what is the weight of the extruder assembly with metal parts and all?
@codyparker6118 2 жыл бұрын
That’s amazing bud very very cool!
@joseomarbenitez6759 2 жыл бұрын
Genius!! Congratulations!
@MelSavageKiller 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing work, congratulations.
@norym90 2 жыл бұрын
Impressive work!
@kevinpepe9101 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! This is an amazing extruder. I really think this has a lot of potential.
@drubradley8821 Жыл бұрын
Dang, I was on the edge of my couch with this one... WELL DONE ! ! ! ! TPU's will for sure, teach a Kat new curse words...lol ... I enjoyed this video.
@RedSlashAce Жыл бұрын
Awesome job!!!
@spon1853 2 жыл бұрын
12:24 every time a try to make a new mod for my printers... Great video!
@m97120 2 жыл бұрын
This is the proper channel! Always exciting engineering work delivered with the right amount of subtle humor. I'm always looking forward to the new videos. Can the extruder be printed with FDM too or does it depend on the precision of resin? I'm also wondering why you need such a big motor. Is it because if the friction caused by the large contact area of the belts?
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Max! It's designed in such way that it can be printed with an FDM printer. I made special versions of the base part for FDM printing. The motor mount must be printed out of ABS, Nylon or polycarbonate because of the heat of the motor. There's quite a lot of force between the belt and filament causing friction. It's a fine balance which probably can be improved. Right now I want to make sure that it can generate enough back pressure and a bigger motor is not a problem for me (this stays cooler too)
@Tomasitoke 2 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting One solution to the stepper motor temperature problem with a PLA or PET-G filament would be to use a stepper damper, this would isolate the temperature from the motor. You should get a stepper with a longer shaft or make the gear shaft longer to reach the motor.
@thebutcher1412 9 ай бұрын
I congratulate you on achieving such a feat! Very smart design with those belt guides !
@dkacor 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing job.congratulations
@SeanTaffert 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Very cool.
@d3str0i3r 2 жыл бұрын
aesthetically and functionally amazing
@martinvinnicombe7930 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, congratulations that’s amazing.
@johnsaunders6510 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Great video.
@freeemailssuck6848 5 ай бұрын
I’ve only just watched this and congratulations. I’ve watched a few of your other videos before and I have to say, I love your ingenuity. Keep it up.
@truthtoad Жыл бұрын
wow! very inspiring work. I just started printing and have a small resin printer. Now I want to start building another one and your extruder.
@Robothut 2 жыл бұрын
So cool. Great job and thank you for sharing with us.
@chrizzog.4585 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations man!! This is awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@denislarin3236 2 жыл бұрын
Great Job!!! Awesome video montage like art and engineering is outstanding!
@bloody_pinata 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously incredible
@saddle1940 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, thanks for the video. Till now, I hadn't thought of the feed hassles with flex. It's a bit of an eye opener.
@PMcDFPV 2 жыл бұрын
I am so freaking excited :-) this looks great
@julesmaguy 4 ай бұрын
Protect this man at all costs
@Felix.Garcia 2 жыл бұрын
well done, this design is pretty cool
@Nixqy 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely entertaining video, thanks for doing all this and sharing it
@zola5584 Жыл бұрын
loved that assembly part:D
@MGrzybek84 2 жыл бұрын
Good job. Congratulations
@brianswille Жыл бұрын
That is incredible!
@dagr8kerek 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss!!! This is so fantastic!!
@monkeyfpv7866 2 жыл бұрын
Well done bro, that’s amazing
@firepower9966 2 жыл бұрын
We always want to see more, you always excel with great ideas and content.
@guzklein 2 жыл бұрын
Great job!
@barabolak Жыл бұрын
That extruder is very pretty!
@brownie9921 Жыл бұрын
Amazing Job, keep making projects and inspiring people like myself.
@PaulDominguez 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing work. You got some mad engineering skills
@edescrambler 2 жыл бұрын
Great design .
@aps3000miki 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great video. Great project, have fun
@randomname4726 Жыл бұрын
Nice job! I've wanted to do this ever since I got a MK2 years ago. I would never have gotten around to it so I'm glad to see it being invented.
@TestTest-eb8jr 2 жыл бұрын
Dit is echte innovatie, geweldig gedaan!!! 👍👍👍
@stormofdragons 2 жыл бұрын
That is incredible. I always love your videos (especially when you wire the extruder backwards) I use many of your modifications on my Ender 3, and love them all. This might be one I have to try at some point.
@TheMrMused Жыл бұрын
I've been printing flexibles for over 5 years now (started with M3D's "Tough 3D Ink", now working with NinjaFlex 85A). Really happy to see the innovation in this extruder. Next up, maybe switch the hotend to a short, all-metal? I got burned (business/money sense, not heat) on my last large printer and I'm currently hunting for the most suitable out-of-the-box (i.e. minimal mods) printer for flexibles without going into the crazy stratosphere of $5K plus machines. Seeing what you've done here is a *tremendous* help in that hunt! Great content!
@CorneliuTicu 2 жыл бұрын
Great work! Respect!
@CptAwwsome 2 жыл бұрын
What an accomplishment!
@AbandonRule Жыл бұрын
Congrats you printed the most impractical gear. Great job on the extruder
@evandenenden 2 жыл бұрын
Nice job. These kind of experiments are helping the make community to think more outside the box.
@mattlong4102 Жыл бұрын
wow great job!
@khenderick 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work 😀
@Arnseb 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome work dude! Love how you include all misshaps
@conorstewart2214 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could use the most flexible one to print custom belts for the extruder, maybe ones with a groove down the middle to better constrain the filament.
@jralrazaz2828 2 жыл бұрын
Not surprised, genius as usual, man you did it again, can't wait yo see your next project.
@daliasprints9798 2 жыл бұрын
I know the TPU gear was just a test piece, but TPU is actually an awesome material for quiet low backlash gears if you do herringbone with zero clearance and 100% infill. I'm using TPU planets in my E motor gearbox. I think it might not work well for low speed high torque output, but it's great for stepping up speed.
@scruffy3121 2 жыл бұрын
Run a ptfe tube through the extruder with cutouts on both sides for the belt to grab on the filament.
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually not a bad idea. It'd be a difficult cutout, but doable. For now this seems to do the trick, but I'll keep it in mind, thanks!
@scruffy3121 2 жыл бұрын
@@properprinting print a jig and take a razor blade. Or sand it down. Your welcome 😂
@properprinting 2 жыл бұрын
@@scruffy3121 I tend to think too difficult sometimes😅
@lilvenaz 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations!
@exoduscustoms1348 Жыл бұрын
Not only is the design fantastic but I love the way you put the video together. I loved everything about this design/ idea and the way you presented it. Amazing work. This video got you another subscriber. I will continue to watch your videos going forward.
@shitposter4688 2 жыл бұрын
very nice iterative-design journey! Shows the problem -> solution -> somehow another problem popped up -> solution, again path very well :D The extruder looks very cool and seems to be technologically quite advanced!
@mdsign001 2 жыл бұрын
This is just simply the best 3D printing channel on KZfaq!
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