No, it actually cost Farrouk two testicles to work the PUMPKINS, as that PONZI CULTURE loves EUNUCHS

the japanese do infact make these and sell them in restaurants. they call them tempura!

@@d1p70 lol.. you got me for a while

It's because of PPP.

@@d1p70 very smooth...hahaha

to pay ALL the employees with 8 tanpuras...

They sell in India. 400 dollars cannot be afforded by many. So it is a premium.

It’s hilarious to me that people still don’t know that 400 dollars in America isn’t the same as 400 dollars somewhere else. How much is milk? How much is rent? I mean come on

If the same instrument is exported, it costs upto 6000 dollars

@@prakharranjan6388 its still very low even for Indian standard. I expected it to cost atleast a lakh for that amount of work

Most of them are made out of wood. Only a few are made of pumpkins.

Only part of the instrument is made of gourd

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One day I'm gunna teach myself how to make gourd instruments. It's something I've wanted to do since I was very young but never got around to.

Beautifully said

Dont worry the electrical sound like shit and will never replace the acoustic ones. Sitar is a very delicate instrument.

If electronic instruments were ever going to replace the real ones, they would have by now.

@@shiningarmor2838 Yo man looks like this specific one is under threat, did you even watch the vid?

Take it you’ve never heard a harp

@@Man_fay_the_Bru I have, nice instrument, don’t prefer it above the mentions above though.

@@Man_fay_the_Bru he is talking about Hindu goddess

@@Man_fay_the_Bru eveyone is heard of harp as americanization(globalization=) mAde them forgot native inntrument n get all unnecessary info about merica n europe

Sarangi too. But sitar was made by mughals inspired by Veena coz they were music lovers and not for devotional purposes, as peer I know.

May I bug you for where you found one?

Are you serious man? 400usd is about 33k in INR aur wo har saal 100-150 tanpura banate hai itani to logo ki average monthly salary bhi nahi hai

@@sjaomsshiqkq 15 log ke aas paas ka kaam Hai 1 tanpure Mae 1 saal Mae 15 ke hisab se per person ko Kitna milega mahine ke hisab laga dekh itna human effort ke liye worth it Hai ya nhi. Yeh same cheez USA Mae 2000 USD se start hoti Hai.

@@sjaomsshiqkq 32K is low for a tampuru, An intermediate quality tampuru costs 50-70k in musical shops

Obviously it’s a common knowledge

@@Kathakathan11 do you anything about kuttanad no right it's common for me coz I live in kerala, not everyone is aware of art and culture of a place. Thanks to platform like these where people get to know so much about there own country

Please share details of Tanpura makers as shown in above video, I'm planning to buy one Miraj tanpura

@@RasiliSharan also there are plenty of websites on Google

How much tacit knowledge will be lost that you can only learn from observing a skilled craftsman trained in a skill handed down through many generations. How much of this knowledge has already been lost around the world.

Art is never practical :) I am a classical violinist, I agree that authentic instruments are the best. electric instruments always sound so sad and lifeless..

@@CATsissta agreed, the sound quality and tone are always so deflated and the resonance is completely gone. Sadly, we don’t really have a choice lol

​@@CATsissta i think when electronic instruments are not trying to emulate the sounds of other instruments they are very pretty. this should be their usage. not a pale imitation of the real thing

Absolutely with you

400$ looks cheap until you realise it's whole month salary of average indian.

The people who play this instrument mostly live in India, Bangladesh and Pakistan where 400$ is alot. It can be the monthly salary of a lower-middle class person in my country Bangladesh.

$400 is very low considering the fact that they do not get enough orders and the materials take 1 year to be prepared before they can be worked on. Also he has 40+ years of experience. He should definitely charge extra for his skill.

@@cherrylle it may seem low according to western country standards. But if we consider the economy of south asia, the price is already very high. If they raise the price, most people won't be able to buy. If they choose to export it to developed countries, they could sell it for more than 400$ there. But $400 in indian currency is more than 20000 and in my country’s (Bangladesh) currency more than 32000 which is the average monthly salary of people here. Most people who play this instrument are from India, Bangladesh, Nepal and Srilanka. All of these countries are not economically developed. This instrument is already very pricy. That's why, wehn we learn to sing, most of the time we play another instrument instead of this

Yeah, but you need a whole second person to practice.

These are costly instruments for entry level Hindustani Classical music practitioners. Electronic ones somehow makes entry in this field easy and later on they move on to the real ones.

Far more people will get a chance to play an electric one than a handmade one. So which is better, to you, a small elite market that can afford a handmade instrument and has to spend years just learning to tune the thing or lots more people using easily affordable factory made ones ready to play?

I have learnt Hindustani classical music for a long time and people always prefer handmade, until only recently electronics are being used .

I know if they sold direct, I'd be willing to pay $500 for one, not including shipping.

Cool it cowboy. Leaving aside the fact that cost of living is lower in India and pakistan, I assure you that 400 bucks covers a decent entry model but not the real fancy ones- and they sell plenty of those. Moreover it may take a week or two on the calendar to make one of these things but that doesn't mean it takes 40-80 hours. You just need to make more friends with luthiers.

PS they can't be that poor, the uncle could afford to make hajj after all.

@@unclejoeoakland government gives subsidies for hajj

Getting them over here in good working order is nontrivial. Moreover, delicate musical instruments aren't that self stable, and don't necessarily store well without maintenance, especially if string tension is holding the set up together. As well, American costumers for this sort of thing are high maintenance and prone to returns.

exactly !!! India is the land of Muslim Mysticism so my advice to you is - SWITCH OFF THE FUKIN TV !!

Is that what youve learned!?

What an insight Sherlock. Sheesh, without you having said that out loud, we would have never figured that part out.

That is incorrect.

This is actually called Calabash not pumpkin. Calabash is used for making utensils and musical instruments. In Africa it's Korra whereas in India Tanpura and Sitar is made from Calabash.

I know, right? Decent machine-made unfinished Electric guitars made in Indonesia cost $1000 and you can get a fully handcrafted sitar for less than half that!

outside India, it will cost more than $1500

@@ashu8265Exactly! In India, 400$ is already high.

The worst part is they split it amongst themselves and each would get just around $50 for 2 months of work. Smh

It's only worth what people will pay for it... maybe in the west that amount seems low for that amount of work and knowledge but it's probably different in India. Price of living is lower there

@@sdrawkcabmiay I guess that makes sense. But, certainly, I would expect to pay no less than $1200 for even the most basic model of this instrument... It always makes me sad when art is undervalued. I would feel guilty to pay only $400... Like some sort of old-fashioned colonial thief 😬!

@@giuseppelogiurato5718 yup u are so right.. in India art is extremely undervalued as Indians don’t have enough for day to day needs but the true shame is that big business buy cheap in india and sell at very high margins abroad like the leather industry, furniture, jewellery, textiles etc. this leaves the artisan with next to nothing for their art and this is killing all originals and market is flooded with imitations.

​@@giuseppelogiurato5718 Thank you for your comment, I would like to point out that the piece is not undervalued by any means ; 400$ is a lot of money in India. I assure you that it is rightly valued at 400$ , for people to buy and propagate the art of playing it and is also quite the respectable price for the artisan. I would pay a bit more if you ask me as well around 500$ … might sound like I'm cheating them, in your perspective.. It might be hard to believe but I'm not. To put things to perspective 500$ is more than what most people make a WHOLE year in India More than 50% of the populace make around that much or less. That doesn't mean they are poor the money still holds a lot of purchasing power (more bang per buck you could say). I do not want to discourage you from paying what you think is right I certainly would If I could so.... please do as much as you possibly could ^^

​@@samanvayasrivastava559 True the Indian market is dying and The global market is discouraging people buying artisan products artisans getting paid. As people never question who they're really paying. Very sad state of affairs

@@shashankbj3804 I disagree. If Indians can afford to pay 2-3x the price Americans pay for smart phones, they can certainly afford to spend more than 400$ on a luxury hand made work of art. Yes, the blue color workers of India may think 400$ is a lot of money but for those who drive cars, watch dish television on flat screens and eat at McDonalds, 400$ is undervaluing this work of art.

@@sdrawkcabmiay naah , i live in the same economy and 400$ is too less for the kind of craftsmanship and time this takes. They should be charging 1.2k $ at minimum and ideally 2k. Especially given the kind of clientele. The only thing is that it's a very delicate use instrument so doesn't need to be as sturdy as others, but it also means very low rate of replacement. I guess if the adornment is largely skipped they can sell budget versions

@@ddawg3230 1.2k $ is the average salary of a middle class person in India, Bangladesh and Pakistan where majority of tanpura users live. How will they afford to buy it? If they sell it more that much price, only a few people will buy it.

@@ddawg3230 be a little logical. No one in India can afford it if it's 1.2k. you realise that most Indians are middle class, right?? None of them would be able to play this after a point then. I'd say they should just charge more to international customers depending on their economy, not make it harder for Indians to buy.

@@tanie3543 No one in India can afford an item costing 1 lakh rupees? Most Indians are middle class? You realize that earning 25000 per month salary will put you in the top 10%? Majority of Indians dont buy these tanpuras anyways. As far as I know, most rural and working class musicians do not use these massive tanpuras in their genre of singing. They use various other versions that are more compact and portable and produce a sound more suitable for their genre. Literally every tanpura player you see will be from a classical singer family who can definitely afford to spend a lakh on a fully embelished - stage ready tanpura. Even most singing teachers, musicians etc use an electric tanpura sound maker 90% of the time, so whoever is buying these high end tanpuras are already those who fancy them and can afford them.

Do you know where I can buy one?

banjos are also made of a similar gourd

@@-jank-willson Banjos are made from a tambourine.... I think you meant Mandolin.

@@bot42 no, banjos used to be made out of gourds. They only started using a drum-head or tamborine-head in the past 100 years or so, when the instrument became popular.

@@bot42 Are you related to the Boyce Thompson of Yonkers?

Omg thank you for this! 🙏🏼

Something similar went through my head watching this too. My kid wants to be a luthier, so I hear all day about guitar-making. Maybe I should show my kid this video and see if they want to try growing giant bottle gourds as an experiment.

This sounds great. I'm not opposed to the ideology as things must progress …. but as much I do love the idea I'm writing to convey that it may not be the best course of action I hope you understand the instrument has a very rich cultural significance. Many including myself would consider it sacrilege. That said , would encourage anyone experimenting within their own confines... but it is wise to realize tanpura and sitar are perfect by themselves ; regardless of the fact that they go mainstream worldwide or not. If they do go mainstream I and all of those who practice would love it if it did so, with integrity and while representing the culture behind it and not because it was merged with another instrument while piggybacking for fame with only the story of it being altered left to tell the world. its got 100s of years behind this , it would be a shame.

This is exactly how civilisations, timelines collide to create exotic inventions. Lovely idea! But some knowledgeable individuals need to take initiatives. As human beings, I hope we don’t stop being experimental and innovative.

Yes as time progresses fusion is inevitable for the future. 🤗

The problem would still remain though, that any new innovative instrument that gained any popularity comparable to a guitar or Tanpura, would be sampled and synthesized, produced in electronic versions within a very short time and again threaten the survival of the craft. The market for Indian trad instruments is ginormous, but being replaced with electronic versions for tangible reasons. Cost, mobility, simplicity etc. I hope these traditional artisan skills and authentic instruments won't become scarce or forgotten. I'm only commenting bc often people dont realize the scope of Indian culture, the amound of people it involves. Few understand that the Indian film industry is by far bigger than Hollywood, with a huge audience for example. In this case it's the digital tech that's so cheap and able to mimic any sound you program it too evolving quickly that's the threat for a slow craft like this in a country where 400 dollars is out of reach for the majority, and the pure size and sensitivity of acoustic instruments like this, or even a stand up bass, a grand piano etc in the climate and world mobility are also less practical that's the problem. And the more people get used to the sound of the lesser electronic replacements, the less likely it is they understand the difference or have experienced it at all.

Me too man 😬

These are gourds, not pumpkins. They are all from the Cucurbitaceae family, yes, but they are not the same thing.

Where are you from? I am mirajkar aswell

They didn't invent Tanpuras... they make it

@@snbharati1447 sitar maker family made it so they did invent pumpkin tanpuras, well from what i see from the video atleast

@Rick3y Rick3y some were even given daruwala, meaning one who sells alcohol

They in no way invented the Tanpura.

@@purvapawar8977 they might invented the "Pumpkin" variation of tanpura

I was thinking the same thing when she kept saying pumpkins😂😂

It is.

Maraj is actually called maharaj in india it is sanskrit word means king Miraj is Islamic/arabic word

Maharaj with time became Maraj in Trinidad

it is also used (or was) to make banjo's

If you can't be bothered enough to find a craftsman through Google odds are you aren't serious about buying. This isn't candy it's not some cheap throwaway item buying one costs real money

@@michaelf.2449 Maybe I should have googled them, but your comment still doesn't address my point. Which mainly being, why doesn't Business Insider, who are the ones doing the mini-doco provide links at all. It's such a small thing to add a link to the businesses of the people they are actually interviewing. I'm sure these craftsman wouldn't say no to wider exposure and a global market. Not just in this video but nearly all videos with ethnic craftsmen doing traditional crafts have no links. Also with a lot of purchases people make, especially for something they don't need or is a novelty to them. There is a thing called impulse buy, 10 years in retail has taught me quite a few things purchased can fall under this category. So if I have to look it up myself and read up and make sure this is the same craftsman I want to support as the video, then that impulse is lost and interest wanes. However if there was a convenient link, then people like myself, who do a lot of impulse buys would only add to these craftsman sale numbers. Finally, while I am by no means a rich man. I do live in a part of the world (Australia) where I have a reasonable level of income that spending it on an item that cost less than a flagship Samsung or Apple phone is well within my means. You made a few assumptions in your comments.

I agree completely that it would be great to be able to support these crafts directly! I wish they had that too.

The company might not have a webpage. .

Well it’s our bane that were born in an economically downturned irrelevant third world country

You play the harmonium and don't know the spelling of it?

As per majoritarian society people, muslims do puncture work only. They are yet to see any good side of their own society

Well, if you want to be technical, pumpkins are a type of gourd along with squashes like butternut squash and melons like honeydew (but not watermelon, which has more in common with a "true berry" than with a melon) and zucchinies (but those are on the other end of the spectrum). They mentioned that this was a bottle gourd, which is related to the pumpkin. However, I think that, more than anything, they're trying to be whimsical by calling it a pumpkin.

@@MissingRaptor cool thanks for the info 👍

Yeah, they're all in the cucurbit family but I would not consider "pumpkin" and "gourd" to be interchangeable synonyms. I think the script editor goofed-up or didn't do their basic homework. "pumpkin" almost always refers the the edible winter squash with origins in the americas in the genus Cucurbita whereas gourds, or at least the gourds used here, are in the genus Lagenaria, are usually inedible, and originate from asia and africa. They're just not the same thing.

@@neilhanson6806 gourd is eaten in south asia.

@@neilhanson6806 As an Indian i can confirm they are edible my family eats them twice a week

Lol

Average Indian needs to wait for 4 months to earn that

Thats how Indian society always was. Your last name represented your family profession. And that often led to endogamy and discrimnation. But it was always about family trade. From my last name I can trace back my ancient family tradition.

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Thats because the working and business class were most converted back then due to casteism and tax incentives. Thats why Bengal has all intellectuals and no strong business community. In USA not a single export comes from Bengal. It all comes from Bangladesh. Otherwise music toh haram hai. And Indian classical is Hinduism oriented music. The art and love of music is something that couldnt be converted.

@@RAIRADIO music is not haram

@@princess9528 it's written in your book.