This Farm of the Future Uses No Soil and 95% Less Water

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As urban populations continue to rise, innovators are looking beyond traditional farming as a way to feed everyone while having less impact on our land and water resources. Vertical farming is one solution that's been implemented around the world. Vertical farms produce crops in stacked layers, often in controlled environments such as those built by AeroFarms in Newark, New Jersey. AeroFarms grows a variety of leafy salad greens using a process called "aeroponics," which relies on air and mist. AeroFarms' crops are grown entirely indoors using a reusable cloth medium made from recycled plastics. In the absence of sun exposure, the company uses LED lights that expose plants to only certain types of spectrum. AeroFarms claims it uses 95% less water than a traditional farm thanks to its specially designed root misting system. And it is now building out a new 70,000 square foot facility in a former steel mill. Once completed, it's expected to grow 2 million pounds of greens per year, making it the largest indoor vertical farm in the world.
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@kuyaleinad4195 7 жыл бұрын

I'm aware it's still in its infancy but would this be the best solution? The crops they grow can easily be grown at home. Even if you live in a flat, you can easily grow a pot of spinach in your porch or just as decoration in your living room :/ I think by the type of food they grow, the solution isn't viable :/ Those type of food doesn't even require a lot of land in its own right. I do agree they need to develop this but they need to build it to suit the following crops: -Wheat -Rice -Potatoes -Cotton -Coffee -Soya -Corn These 7 plants will contribute more than 70% of our arable land used. They're also the one that uses the most pesticides and most of them use a lot of water too. The salad plants they grow at the moment are at low demand and a couple of internet searches will mean you can grow them indoors by yourself :/ But I guess they have to start somewhere :/ Lets see how they go. Growing those 7 crops indoors would be very difficult. (Edit: I'm aware that not anybody can grow salad plants and that you can't rely on a pot of spinach. My main point on that bit was to emphasise the ease of growing those types of plants)

@philippemorin5866 7 жыл бұрын

Growing inside won't reduce the need to use pesticide, in fact it's almost impossible to grow inside without the use of pesticide. The only way to reduce water and pesticide use is to change our agriculture practices that have been going on since the agriculture revolution. A better conservation of soils will reduce the need for water and more diversity in the crops in association with indigenous plants will reduce the pressure of disease and insects and the need for pesticide. Just think about it how can growing things in an artificial environnement can be eco-friendly?

@kuyaleinad4195 7 жыл бұрын

Philippe Morin You do make a good point :) I'm pretty neutral about the topic myself since the problems of agriculture today is more of malpractice than efficiency :/ The agriculture we have now is pretty efficient and I don't think we'll ever leave it. I still think a majority of our crops will still be grown in fields. The major problem is that nearly all fields are monocultures so we have to rely on fertiliser and pecticides just for them to survive. Perhaps increasing the biodiversity of farms would reduce the need of fertiliser and pesticides :/

@kuyaleinad4195 7 жыл бұрын

hawk 4 reason I wasn't even advocating that people grow 100% of their vegetables which is totally not viable. What I mentioned was that the crops they grew in these vertical farms (aka Salad plants) can easily grown in a pot. Maybe I didn't send the message clearly :/ As for the pot size, I didn't think I needed to clarify that since you obviously need a medium sized plant for it. And I guess I was over-exaggerating when I said in '1 pot'. As for 'You get a pot a couple of months' bit, salad plants doesn't take that long to grow. Sure from seed to plant, it's probably going to take a month but once it has grown, you can cut a couple of leaves off every 7 days or so. My main point is that as it stands, Vertical farms are pretty useless due to the ease if growing the crops they grow in their at the moment (You can easily grow it at home) and that they're only going to be viable if the staple crops are grown.

@valken666 7 жыл бұрын

Lot's of startups live off investors, and possibly from a higher premium selling their products as 'high tech food'. That doesn't mean the idea is good. Greenhouses are much more energy efficient, can use mist and stack plants.

@danielstarr8957 7 жыл бұрын

uhh well some of us live in deserts so to us this idea sounds amazing.

@Euporia21 5 жыл бұрын

Its basically like a automatic wheat farm in mincraft

@phillipporter6427 5 жыл бұрын

LUAN EXACTLY

@phillipporter6427 5 жыл бұрын

Minus the enslaved villagers, of course

@ryanflorian2047 5 жыл бұрын

only it can't even grow wheat good luck driving a harvester over it guess they have to pull crops by hand now? what a joke these people are going to fail because they don't realize how heavy beets are capreform.eu/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Sugar-beet-harvest.jpg you need a huge truck to carry just a few rows

@alphen9487 5 жыл бұрын

@@phillipporter6427 sadly

@mitchellknuth8805 5 жыл бұрын

ryan florian yep, your right, this entire company is going to go bankrupt just because they miscalculated the weight of a beet. 😂

@StressLessCamping 4 жыл бұрын

I can’t stop thinking of growing food in all the abandoned malls around the US. I also love the idea of doing this in schools.

@Urban_Piggy 3 жыл бұрын

StressLess Camping Now these are really good ideas!

@tomdrevet6244 3 жыл бұрын

Let's work together then !

@donberry6079 2 жыл бұрын

Dream on. That will come on line about the same time as cheap, cool, fusion energy.

@Future_AgriTech Жыл бұрын

Plenty plans to build a giant vertical farm near every major city kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rJymo5aaxq2qhIk.html

@MakeSushi1 3 жыл бұрын

I hope they use solar panels on the roof to lower that electrical cost

@abkolman474 3 жыл бұрын

@nisaan agarwal the cost of making and desposing are bad for the planet

@sixpackyoung9698 3 жыл бұрын

If the solar power is strong enough all the pot farms will be using it instead of rely on the electricity company.

@kaydenl6836 3 жыл бұрын

@@abkolman474 solar panels are actually very recyclable

@bigpickles 3 жыл бұрын

@@abkolman474 total bullshit

@angelsuniverse6021 3 жыл бұрын

What about the batteries?

@magzire 8 жыл бұрын

I have exact same setup for growing weed

@mrdumbguy6026 8 жыл бұрын

lmao

@misterwho4633 8 жыл бұрын

Hahaha awesome!

@jaysubero5849 8 жыл бұрын

same

@dimensional3926 8 жыл бұрын

Police will be at your door shortly.

@magzire 8 жыл бұрын

+John Doe cool, tell them to bring drinks and supplies

@Snailman3516 7 жыл бұрын

theoretically, if you use 95% less water, zero soil requirements, all stacked up, all you need is space, electricity, and capital. I say we put them in old blockbusters.

@Snailman3516 7 жыл бұрын

***** yeah, but you can stack them in really tall buildings and you can do it on any kind of soil.

@2awesome292 7 жыл бұрын

Why not on water? The irony... uses 95% less water on the water...

@nodigBKMiche 4 жыл бұрын

"Lettus know in the comments below". 😂. Great idea! No turning back

@padmnabhnarayansingh9166 3 жыл бұрын

Can we grow vegetables like cabbage.

@r.t.9881 Жыл бұрын

This is amazing! They also have farms popping up in warehouses with soil and the products are certified organic…. Healthy…. And less prone to bugs and molds as conventional farming…. They also don’t get ravaged by weather as the growing environment is controlled… its amazing!!

@bookwyrmneducator 8 жыл бұрын

This would be a perfect new industry for Detroit. They have tons of empty warehouses, a population willing to learn to have steady work and a throving city again. I read about this awhile back, and it still is amazing.

@aen9321 5 жыл бұрын

They aren't even productive enough to get basic jobs or provide for a family. I doubt that they would be able to uphold something as advanced or as time-consuming as this

@quantrindic5488 8 жыл бұрын

they're catching up to cannabis techniques lmao

@maxstirner8717 8 жыл бұрын

Hey, maybe they are, it's a great thing no?

@quantrindic5488 8 жыл бұрын

Max Stirner It's fantastic don't get me wrong, it just tickles me is all

@maxstirner8717 8 жыл бұрын

Quantrindic Oh it's brilliant, but yes definitely funny knowing where its inspiration comes from!

@MatanuskaHIGH 8 жыл бұрын

not even close.. we are light years ahead of big ag

@CHIPSTERO7 8 жыл бұрын

Sun is overrated... Seriously, though, that shit has got to be unhealthy to eat. I won't be touching it. Rule of thumb: the less human intervention with our food the healthier it is

@alexberry8190 4 жыл бұрын

I love how a good chunk of comments are about us playing god, we aren’t playing god 😂 this isn’t creating, its harboring. We take already existing life and cater to it. If we were playing god we could just say fuck it and spawn food from thin air. Open your brain to new ideas, it’s how we got this far. It’s how you all can share your close minded opinion on the internet like this.

@notthatthenamematters6163 3 жыл бұрын

Finally someone with an iq higher than room temperature

@iamawesome924 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah factory farming exploded the population so we are dependent on it and fucks like you won’t be happy till every square inch is a fucking hell hole

@Nikola-cs6in 3 жыл бұрын

wait till they hear about CRISPR owo

@revanthganesh3808 3 жыл бұрын

I am perfectly open to new ideas..but what is the problem with organic farming in soil and nature.. Instead of taking everything in ur own hands ,struggling in an artificial environment!

@revanthganesh3808 3 жыл бұрын

Do u know what it takes to do this..just have a read below NATURE/GOD- just add seed,water and cattle droppings..rest happens like magic!!.. HUMANS- 1.add macronutrients likenitrogen,potassium,calcium,magnesium,oxygen,sulphur etc... 2.add micronutients like zinc, nickel, boron, copper, iron, manganese, molybdenum, boron, and chlorine. 3.add water,seed,organic substance Mimicing soil 4.maintain and adjust proper pH 5.hand Pollinate each flower with your own hands and use vibrators to mimic bee activity 6. build high power led lamps and light all the crops 7.maintain and adjust temperature of the area 8.measure and adjust electrical conductivity 9. buy numerous equipments ,raw materials ,tubes,furniture etc..for setting up the hydrophonics farm 10.regulate humidity, air quality etc..in the indoor farm And many many more

@sachinnirwan7170 3 жыл бұрын

Guys just because of your innovation humanity come so far thank you for everything...kind regards and love

@ethanphilpot7643 8 жыл бұрын

It's stuff like this that make me optimistic about the future

@ClimbaRock5 8 жыл бұрын

Same

@djobokuwali4316 8 жыл бұрын

barf

@DeathToMockingBirds 8 жыл бұрын

Yes, but currently, this is only viable for leafy greens, unfortunately. So all the wheat, potatoes, soja, corn, fruits and roots that we eat are cost prohibitive to grow indoor, meaning it wont happen unless the price of all the food increase tenfolds at least.

@metusbatmanv1438 8 жыл бұрын

This shit has been around for decades upon decades, moron. The same way the electric car has been around since the early 1900's, moron.

@djobokuwali4316 8 жыл бұрын

***** Okay, I'll shut my mouth when it happens. Until then I'm pretty sure using ACTUAL sunlight is more efficient than electric powered sunlight, that which comes from fossil fuels rather than renewable sources. Also, current aeroponic methods for growing high calorie staple crops, like corn and potatoes are sorely behind in meeting current demands. I'm more of an advocate for reducing the 75% of farmland specifically for feeding livestock, not to mention ungodly amounts of water.

@muhammadharis2205 5 жыл бұрын

They have not explained important points like is it cheaper, energy consumption etc.

@dreadfulman5191 5 жыл бұрын

Its definitely not cheap with all those fabrications and stuff but it might make up for it's initial cost in the long run. And with all those lights it sure is consuming a lot of energy. Using solar panels can help in the area. Overall pretty expensive than traditional farming but I guess it's more reliable and profiting in the long run

@0Arcoverde 5 жыл бұрын

@@dreadfulman5191 best thing is not using soil, depleting it, or pesticides Wich kills soil And super massive building int he middle of the city could supply for all of it

@themehuify 5 жыл бұрын

it's not cheaper, more energy is used and the overall workload is increased. it sure will be a lot more affordable in the future as solar power is on the rise and more workload tends to create new jobs. the most important thing however is reducing erosion of farmland and to get rid of pesticides and herbicides

@goldenassassin7995 5 жыл бұрын

It is definitely not cheap and energy saving. You have the sun for free like WTF. They must sell a 0.50 dollar vegetable for 5 with the label no pesticides no gmos no shit etc. Huge dislike from me.

@bluememehehe9314 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly what the governments want 👍they poison Mother Earth. Become dependent on the system through food ... expensive. They allready preach Meat is bad that smoking kills.. yett its them growing food on plastick a known carsinogenic. #whachuthinkabouthat aye 🙈

@jumnugusar4572 4 жыл бұрын

Wow!!! It really give me goosebumps when I heard RECYCLED PLASTIC WASTE is used.

@normannabatar6260 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome. @1:28 "cuts the growing cycle in half." It makes sense, especially when have to replenish elemental losses in the soil to makeup for overall imbalance.

@kindcolt2747 3 жыл бұрын

And imbalance is the key to the planets survival 😋

@souravzzz 8 жыл бұрын

This is nothing new, weed farmers have been doing this shit for years.

@chasesan 8 жыл бұрын

*Columbia* University was an early champion of this technology. coincidence? I think not!

@kennykwong1028 8 жыл бұрын

it's new that ppl have financial backing for this to make it work on such a large scale

@metusbatmanv1438 8 жыл бұрын

Shut the fuck up Dallas, you moron. Your aeroponics prototype, moron? You mean the shit that has been around for 30 years, moron? Amazing how a plant will respond to pump timing? Holy shit, shut the fuck up because you're embarrassing yourself, moron.

@sourdiesel6791 8 жыл бұрын

+The Super Vanquish A lot

@aksmex2576 8 жыл бұрын

no not really

@panama-canada 7 жыл бұрын

like Uber will weed out Taxi companies, vertical farms will kill conventional farms and hungering be a thing of the past. yes, a few people will suffer as a result but for he benefit of the greater good.

@remliqa 7 жыл бұрын

Doubtful. Conventional farms is till more cost competitive.

@jchristian8413 7 жыл бұрын

at what cost? fucking the environment. that doesn't sound to bright does it. anything worth doing generally costs more. its like buying a decent pair of shoes. is ya cup half full or half empty remliqa?

@remliqa 7 жыл бұрын

Vertical farming isn't exactly greener.What this video neglect to mention is that vertical farming requires intensive amount of energy( which still uses fossil fuel at the moment) and resources to start up. The most important thing is there is still no pressing need to switch to vertical farming right now, even from an environmental stand point and from a cost perspective.In the future, maybe.

@philippemorin5866 7 жыл бұрын

Not everything can be produce in vertical farms also for now it's way more expensive and it's not proven to be efficient. Maybe in a couple years a lot of lettuce production could be made that way, but we're far from there with other crops. For now the only thing that can be grow this way and make profit out of it is weed.

@philippemorin5866 7 жыл бұрын

It will never be more environmental friendly to use artificial light instead of the sun.

@khossrov 3 жыл бұрын

Such a wonderful idea, it is really a gateway to a better farming and better distribution system to provide the produce locally "hopefully at the minimum cost for the consumers as well"!

@saha4774 3 жыл бұрын

We need more of this !

@witherredaway 5 жыл бұрын

me who has played countless hours of minecraft survival and made vertical farms: lmao

@iwantmykidssusan4941 5 жыл бұрын

Relatable

@dildoshwagins2222 5 жыл бұрын

Noobs I know they don’t even have a way to automatically harvest it

@Friddle 5 жыл бұрын

Back in mcpe like ~7 years id make huge tower farms and id end up monopolizing the server (my group of friends) with my endless food

@dddmemaybe 4 жыл бұрын

But eating bread wastes more gametime than eating meat especially when you consider _foodSaturationLevel._ Eating anything other than Steak, Cooked Porkchop and Golden Carrots is a waste of your time as you engage in eating animation over and over. Why have a big wheat farm when you have minecraftian carnivorous superiority. Now who is the n0oB? hehe ecksdee, also you can try realism mods where eating same food stops "working" lol.

@christianedwards9025 4 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, I hadn't thought about it for the longest time and then I was like....well I got a village over there with a bunch of farmer villagers, and my hand built town is here...what if I made a sorta warehouse to grow crops to trade them with the villagers for emeralds. Boom vertical farming discovered by accident.

@Critic224 7 жыл бұрын

They should try it in desert 🌵 countries....saving 95% of water is great 👍🏻!

@wanderingbufoon 7 жыл бұрын

Critic224 and electricity is no problem for them since they have an abundance of fuel source

@prithvim7 7 жыл бұрын

wanderingbufoon or just use solar panels and windmills?

@doodoobrown4518 7 жыл бұрын

Critic224 I'm sorry to tell you BUT these vertical futuristic Farms will ((NEVER)) be built across the world......They're amazing.........BUT farming will only get worse. The honey bee die-off why only get worse. The fish in the sea dying will only get worse. The Chemtrails, the pollution will only get worse.

@Dongdot123 7 жыл бұрын

That is until the humans go back to its 200AD population level

@carlospulido3318 7 жыл бұрын

Don´t forget the solar power, it is very helpful.

@infinitetraveler8111 4 жыл бұрын

This is the way, no question about it. Great job!

@Tingtvph9226 2 жыл бұрын

grabe super lawak naman ng taniman na yan. sana mayroon din akong farm na malawak.

@SnowmansApartment 5 жыл бұрын

The US are so weird.. Always comparing things with football fields..

@id104335409 5 жыл бұрын

SnowmansApartment that is all they know. :/

@farmerbold1144 5 жыл бұрын

Football fields? Well, its our unit of comparison and our language. So, why does the entire planet want to be U.S. citizens? The entire world must also be "weird," huh? I wonder how many football fields that would take up?

@Mark-jm8ug 5 жыл бұрын

Europe best

@Mokoshhy 5 жыл бұрын

@@farmerbold1144 oh hell nah I don't want to be U. S citizen

@novovires5625 5 жыл бұрын

@@farmerbold1144 Hell nope.... No one wants to live in San Francisco shithole homeless city. Also, we know the truth about the United States. Basically , everything is fake in the United States (fake happiness, fake women (transgender everywhere), fake currency, fake water (fluoride everywhere), fake genius (Elizabeth Holmes from Silicon Valley), fake Corporations (all invested and owned via Darpa and CIA funds from proprietary systems made by the United States), fake music (black magic via waves sound), fake media (fake news made by CNN), fake politics (there's no left and right), fake politicians ( puppets), fake human beings ( greedy, arrogant and Cuckold shit people), fake education (high IQ = Self Learning), fake government ( totalitarian and Marxist government hidden via the mass media programming), fake freedom ( 25 millions people in jail = hidden Slavery) and fake nation (you are owned by the Vatican). In short, we (self aware folks) know the real truth about united state, and we love our country (Germany).... The next war will be the end of the US imperialism... Trust me

@gillesbkf4315 5 жыл бұрын

How much does this consume electricity? If the amount of MWatts consumed are less than the energy required to run machines on the field + transport them, it’s obviously the future farming method.

@Wohodix 5 жыл бұрын

even if its consume more energy it might better than wasting tons of water, killing soil, the ecosystem and the ocean.

@jasplays6392 5 жыл бұрын

@@Wohodix i believe i heard in a different video a few years back that the energy consumption is the only real reason why indoor/vertical farming isn't used literally everywhere. I agree that even if the energy is more costly than that of normal farming we should still do vertical farming b/c of the saved water and land, but sadly most farmers and people in general, don't care about those problems and only about their personal wealth. Governments around the world (especially in the US) should put tax breaks and subsidies on vertical farming companies, like how there are for Electric cars.

@khazaharto515 5 жыл бұрын

Maybe we could replace actual farm with solar panel and grow the plant in vertical way? Win-win solution considering how large the farm fields are

@gillesbkf4315 5 жыл бұрын

Ahmed Arma actually building solars panels is expensive in electricity and in minerals matters. Also it needs a lot of maintenance

@Payteer 5 жыл бұрын

@@gillesbkf4315 Actually, the maintenance is very low for solar PV.

@HorribleGamingFun 3 жыл бұрын

Thats awesome, such a brilliant idea need to see this being done in more places

@feetcapetown8312 4 жыл бұрын

Well South Africa definetly need this.

@johnvanegmond1812 4 жыл бұрын

South Africa needs to quit killing those who actually know how to grow food skillfully enough to feed a country.

@kutter_ttl6786 6 жыл бұрын

All of those dead malls in the US, I wonder if they could be repurposed into vertical farms?

@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh 6 жыл бұрын

Except that these are even less profitable than the malls were. Once they burn through the investors' money they always close.

@user-kn3mi6yg3s 5 жыл бұрын

Brilliant my friend brilliant. Here in canada they are in old candy factories, old food processing plants, old mines, a thriving local gymnasium as big as 4 football fields was closed down because landlord got 10 tije the rent from grow op.

@shotgun6X 5 жыл бұрын

@@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh ah, but what if it was only one of several services provided?

@bararobberbaron859 5 жыл бұрын

This might work in a year or 10, perhaps even 6/7 assuming there is a fat discount on the structure to be able to break even/turn a small profit. Right now, after many years of effort (Talking 30+) the closest to financially feasible is a 1% loss. The university leading the charge on research and efficiency improvements in this field does believe in knowledge sharing though so at least that's nice. Once they know how to run a 2-3% profit, the rest of the world will have access to that knowledge. Don't mind Quinton, he's extra negative about this for some reason, maybe a vertical farm killed his hamster.

@catlluminati5645 5 жыл бұрын

hell yes!

@maistooo 7 жыл бұрын

less soil and water but more electricity!

@charlottel6381 7 жыл бұрын

maisto not if they use led lights

@hughjanus6209 7 жыл бұрын

They use led's, and as they said in the video, they save even further electricity by not using yellow spectrum light, only red and blue. Regular farms might not use electricity to grow their fields, but they use tons upon tons of diesel fuel to sow, harvest and prepare their fields. With vertical farm, the energy at least has the potential to come from renewable sources.

@hughjanus6209 7 жыл бұрын

Yes, but the technology for vertical farms exist *now*. It will be decades before we have batteries powerful enough to drive a tractor for any reasonable amount of times

@ObamaoZedong 7 жыл бұрын

+Thure Christensen and lets not forget, the batteries needed for solar powered vegicles are detrimental to the environment themselves.

@valken666 7 жыл бұрын

They could use greenhouses with mist and possibly some mirrors. No need for LED lights.

@Sproutt 4 жыл бұрын

Nobody is talking about the electric bill...

@joyfuljoyful6598 4 жыл бұрын

Solar powered perhaps?

@bookcadenb4584 4 жыл бұрын

With the fact that they mentioned LED Lighting and reduced spectrum multiple times, one would think you would've figured out by now that the energy bill won't be that high. That said, it may be higher than they can support with only Solar on the roof of that building.

@Cortesevasive 4 жыл бұрын

@@bookcadenb4584 24/7 +mist .+ investment .

@AverageAtBestHDTB 3 жыл бұрын

Price of kWh in the US is very favourable for these kind of set ups.

@pneron2032 3 жыл бұрын

There are no solutions, only trade-offs.

@OldSchoolGrowing 3 жыл бұрын

Super Cool! I can't wait to get a rebate for one of these grows

@douchbagat7671 5 жыл бұрын

when the weird kid in high school says, "I'm going to grow plants on racks for a living" couple of years later

@TheMirrorslash 7 жыл бұрын

"The idea is finally taking root"... Badum Tssss. Good one!

@josht9518 7 жыл бұрын

Damn... I "mist" it.

@Bubz_mordhau 7 жыл бұрын

where do these puns stem from?

@drzavahercegbosnaponosna5974 7 жыл бұрын

JW was an idiot !

@michaelwhitney6477 7 жыл бұрын

"Over the few years, vertical farms have sprouted all over the world"

@5thRing 7 жыл бұрын

Mirrorslash **grown** Puns....

@gentlegiraffe5888 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds almost too good to be true!! My hope is that such farms will also be build in over-populated countries, and places where fresh water is scarce. That would be the best thing of all!

@nicholaslynn2944 4 жыл бұрын

This new way of growing food is going to make alot of hunger disappear. Thank you so much. I would invest in this food production if I could.

@Half_Centaur 8 жыл бұрын

This video would be a lot better if they explained the economics of this business and not just the possible environmental impacts. I like the idea, but after watching the video I still have no idea if it's economically feasible or when it might be.

@NordicPieEater 8 жыл бұрын

It's 100% economically feasible. Sure, the intial cost will be pretty big, but the energy and water cost is much less than that of a regular farm, and with round the clock yealds they can be selling these plants within several months, eventually gaining back what they intially spent within several years. ( or less )

@Half_Centaur 8 жыл бұрын

+Gabe Newell Do you have a source?

@NordicPieEater 8 жыл бұрын

Half_Centaur No, but it's basic economics... Why would this not make sense? They use LED lights (much less efficient than traditional lighting), they use much less water by misting, no fertilizer, lower growing times, growing times 12 months a year, controlled environments (meaning no pests/diseases), etc. A regular farm also has to buy fuel and energy to power machinery for plowing/sewing seeds, which this doesn't require.

@Half_Centaur 8 жыл бұрын

+Gabe Newell Regardless of whether it is economically profitable right now, which you don't seem to know except from what you saw in this video and what seems like a guess, my point is that the video should've discussed the business side of it more. That is, after all, what will determine whether this catches on.

@pupdrummer 8 жыл бұрын

They for sure use a fertilizer. They don't use a pesticide is what you probably meant.

@gr3gwendt 5 жыл бұрын

And here I am growing beans in a bucket of dirt 😂

@Sariine436 5 жыл бұрын

Great

@selenator3855 5 жыл бұрын

greg wendt I can relate, I’m growing a tomato in a bucket of dirt 😭

@0popkm0 5 жыл бұрын

Well yeah if it's just for you thats sustainable. They sell tons of LEDs on Amazon w/ diffrent spectrums. They work great for my cannabis!

@Bramon83 5 жыл бұрын

Here I am tending my cattle on a ranch.... Vertical farming techniques save my wasted space!!!!!! 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒

@0popkm0 5 жыл бұрын

@@Bramon83 maybe beef shouldn't be mass produced because you have to kill millions of animals in a short but painful way, and it's the biggest producer of CO² in our atmosphere

@AAvfx 3 жыл бұрын

*This method is being used worldwide nowadays to grow endangered plants species*

@tomashanacik737 3 жыл бұрын

Gr8t idea! Will think about build a system like this at home. At least for a wintertime. Thumbs up!

@Adam-gn4oo 5 жыл бұрын

soon these will be run completly off solar power and people are gon a be like did you hear they growing plants useing the power of the sun lol

@miyamotomusashi3679 5 жыл бұрын

😂

@LanxOfficial 5 жыл бұрын

Me: Coming to the comments for genuine advice & opinions about vertical farming Everyone else: MINEECRAFFFTTTT

@krystalphan8871 5 жыл бұрын

😂

@jtact5487 5 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the internet

@darknessfrnd7993 5 жыл бұрын

People are acting like kids on internet

@bilalthefighter829 5 жыл бұрын

Internet the best source of knowledge

@melisa4516 5 жыл бұрын

@@darknessfrnd7993 Right

@arcticjungle4741 4 жыл бұрын

I feel like the one in Vancouver is probably filled with weed not beans 😵

@Urban_Piggy 3 жыл бұрын

Arctic Jungle happiest staff ever!

@isasaparov2655 3 жыл бұрын

Thx for idea )

@darrenanderson3583 3 жыл бұрын

The Colombian is running the show ,I'll order an 8 ball Shut up and take my money.

@danielhopkins7979 2 жыл бұрын

One can only hope

@macss4767 3 жыл бұрын

i was doing this in the mid east 40 years ago in shipping containers with basic wind power for the lighting. only growing crops to feed cows. back then was told it was a waste of time so i gave up on it

@neillim6172 8 жыл бұрын

How can this exist now if its "Farm of the future"?

@NeWx89 8 жыл бұрын

Future as in, it will be more main stream..

@fitemil 8 жыл бұрын

options are limited. this is paving the road for future generations

@unvmematt 8 жыл бұрын

to run this operation would require so much electricity so in a way you're still harming the environment.

@sebastianalancliffordthomp4114 8 жыл бұрын

+unvmematt This kind of project needs to follow after the renewable/better nuclear energy projects, but the testing needs to be done now for it to be viable

@1RAGEACE 8 жыл бұрын

+neil lim I SEE YOU COMMENT EVERYWHERE

@Creamagination 8 жыл бұрын

sorry bro, Japan is already doing it for the past 10 years.

@piotr5261 8 жыл бұрын

Japan for president!

@ganimecore7041 8 жыл бұрын

Yup

@encognito3013 8 жыл бұрын

+Piotr a country can't be president and if a country can, Japan is one of the worst candidates (Check the history books before you argue)

@ganimecore7041 8 жыл бұрын

+Jose Ledezma Yup,

@ganimecore7041 8 жыл бұрын

+Jose Ledezma but that's history, it's different now right?

@TheGlitchRoom 4 жыл бұрын

All these comments filled with hippies and minecraft jokes lmao

@thegreatlightmind 3 жыл бұрын

I'm going to invest in this way insted of using my farmland to grow this is amazing.💰

@thedevilsadvocate3710 5 жыл бұрын

Anytime someone only shows the pro's I am immediately skeptical. Show me the pro's and the con's. Then we can talk about the future.

@komix7556 4 жыл бұрын

Form your own cons

@vitramahabir6784 4 жыл бұрын

My TwoCents..everything has pros and cons..everything...we do it anyway on a small scale.on a big scale..but food production is very important..so we will have to live with a few cons..or u might have a better idea than these ppl plz share it.😊

@cyberlord64 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, expect someone else to feed you with what to think is good or bad. Anyone can spin anything as a "pro" or "con". Get the raw numbers. Make your own evaluation.

@kendyljae1938 4 жыл бұрын

I'm thinking that maybe one of the cons may be the jobs that people will lose because of this new method. Unless those directly employed to agriculture could build these vertical farms, which I'm guessing takes a lot of money considering all the specialized materials, they will most likely begin losing money as people realized the better environmental impact. But again, these crops might also be sold at a higher price due to the farmers spending so much to create it. It's all about money, and until this new method begins becoming more mainstream and affordable, it probably won't be pushed for a while. That's just my two cents, so take it with a grain of salt. I do think this is a very good idea, but it has to be supported before any large leaps and bounds can take place.

@uhclem 4 жыл бұрын

In the future we'll have flying cars!

@Nohoana45 6 жыл бұрын

Vertical farming is THE way to go, growing food inside city limits to cut down on how far crops travel, ultimately making food sources more readily available to urban development. While using less, land, water and pesticides?! How could it get any better than that? Bravo Aero, and all the other companies around the world striking out to be pioneers in this new and better way to farm.

@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh 6 жыл бұрын

Vertical Farming is far more energy intensive than normal farming, meaning it leads directly to increased carbon emissions. It is also not profitable at all. No one has ever made money on growing vegetables indoors.

@razorsaber2287 6 жыл бұрын

Quinton Beck please state your sources

@thaton3guy100 5 жыл бұрын

Solar panels on the roof...

@amymoran6206 5 жыл бұрын

they just said that?

@JudgeDillon 5 жыл бұрын

joe botsch You can't power all of those lights running 24/7 with solar panels. Think about it for a second; If that much light energy hit the roof of that plant why would you use a solar panel to convert 18% of that light into electricity and then use a UV light bulb to convert that 18% of electrical energy into light at yet again at 18% efficiency? Also, all of the nutrients are coming from external sources. Where do you think all of those nutrients are coming from?

@campdavidsonfunctionaltrai8583 3 жыл бұрын

wanted you to give more detail and how this works. love the idea would like th see the process from seed to plate.

@danieltalis7711 4 жыл бұрын

95% less water they say... but a whole lot of electricity. Sunshine is free. If it was combined with solar power it could make more sense but that would cost a considerable amount to set up.

@ellabennett1787 4 жыл бұрын

true dat

@92kosta 7 жыл бұрын

No soil, 95% less water... But wastes as much electricity as a data center.

@nexu6517 7 жыл бұрын

92kosta Think about it. Solar energy, nuclear energy, other forms of reusable energy can help this to become even better. Why is the spectrum of your mind so small?

@shanont 7 жыл бұрын

could be possible for spacestation? (with solar panels)

@pira707 7 жыл бұрын

they use leds...

@Krydolph 7 жыл бұрын

first off, its LED, second, getting that power from solar or wind would be problem. You dont have to burn coal and oil to get electricity. If you are into this kind of stuff, chances are you are into renewable energy too.

@corlfranco9371 7 жыл бұрын

energy is free since 200 years ago

@lifenoggin 8 жыл бұрын

Why aren't these everywhere?!

@kadencobbs269 8 жыл бұрын

Your channel is awesome.

@galaxymaster9457 8 жыл бұрын

ikr plus you awesome

@kx65andyx85rider 8 жыл бұрын

Probably expensive and it's hard to get large buildings in city's

@kx65andyx85rider 8 жыл бұрын

+notagoon695 and it's just not a big enough scale

@waffleman383 8 жыл бұрын

Its a big original investment to open one of these, and the profit simply is so tiny it would never pay for itself. Remember, global food production is privatized, so businessmen in the industry would much rather buy a cheap plot of land and grow crops on it for a significantly higher profit. Technological progress does not always mean immediate implementation or implementation at all. Farms are businesses, and a business' sole purpose is profit.

@cindychen8421 4 жыл бұрын

I love it so much, great works.

@tejasshekar Күн бұрын

May years later, we still don't see this as a widespread option

@scotland2256 5 жыл бұрын

People been growing weed 'in the future' for years then lol

@rozzzi.h 5 жыл бұрын

lmao

@nebula3576 5 жыл бұрын

Ikr. Like we been doing this already

@scotland2256 4 жыл бұрын

@Bantham Nobilis Try living in the UK lol for a Q of high grade you are talking £60-80 ($80-100) Unless you know a guy who knows a guy

@xmosphere 4 жыл бұрын

@Bantham Nobilis if you are spending more than $150 (or $180 if its some fire bud) on an O, you are getting ripped of.

@bethlehemeisenhour8352 4 жыл бұрын

Getting stoned is more important than reading their BIBLE,

@dawelch69 5 жыл бұрын

In response to the electricity question, I have an Aerogarden that has about 1/2 square foot of LEDs that combined draw about 30 watts when on. Add the pump to aerate the roots, which is about 5 watts, for a total of 35 watts. Do the math with 1 football field of LEDs (or less efficient fluorescent bulbs), which is 57,600 square feet, and it should be consuming approximately 3 to 4 Mega Watts of power depending on how often pumps are running. They could offset this consumption with renewable energy, which was not discussed in the video.

@andrexadoh Жыл бұрын

But then you have to replace LED's. They last long but not forever.

@marcelrodriguez67 2 жыл бұрын

The future we need more of this

@mcdougal0 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely the way to farm in the now and future.

@alexandercorbett1276 4 жыл бұрын

While a good idea, there is one factual comment that is bothering me. They said they were able to reduce their energy consumption by not using yellow light (and presumably only using a blue-red combination) because plants don't need yellow light. This remains to be seen. While it is true that structural components and sugar creation is independent of lights other than blue and red, we aren't quite sure of the effect of the rest of the spectrum on secondary metabolite generation. So, what they're doing is building plants that look healthy and fully formed but are potentially lacking a great deal of chemical diversity.

@kenyareads6918 4 жыл бұрын

@GamingTV Not necessarily. The yellow light may be responsible for the absorption of trace elements, which might not be essential for plant growth, but may make a difference to the health of the person consuming the plants. E.g. it is said that increased Selenium in food can help prevent cancer. If yellow light is responsible for the addition of Selenium to the plant, by denying the plant yellow light, you are producing a plant that will help deal with your hunger but lack in disease prevention properties.

@raydtettevi 4 жыл бұрын

Very good point

@APNambo 4 жыл бұрын

We know exactly the wavelengths of all the light that a plant needs to grow. It's no secret. Scientists have already figured out all the molecules that absorb lights in a plant (which is mostly just chlorophyll and carotenoids), we are not doing stone age experiments here. The plant can create all the components it needs from the energy absorbed by those pigments. There's no secret process that has not yet been discovered in terms of plant growth and metabolism. The only concern here is cost. If it is more economical than traditional farming, this would be a great way to grow food.

@lyricalmusic2518 4 жыл бұрын

Very well said 👍

@jenkech5824 4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree it very worrying to me

@CrispyChrisss 8 жыл бұрын

Squidward " FUUUUUUUUUUUUTTUUUURRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE"

@DarKMediaify 8 жыл бұрын

haha

@3qtipkilla 8 жыл бұрын

yasssssssss

@dudukunhuwarezu 8 жыл бұрын

its happening theyre using chrome, i mean steel XD

@brento2890 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent! I hope that find this successful !

@rasinshuriken 3 жыл бұрын

It can never be as good as natural farming methods

@coltmagnus6572 5 жыл бұрын

I was just recently telling my friends farms will be in high rise buildings in cities with solar panels covering the outside of the buildings. Thank you for proving me right.

@kikib48grid 5 жыл бұрын

Well...lettuce.

@coltmagnus6572 5 жыл бұрын

@@kikib48grid You could grow corn too, this is only the first set up. And it's in an old building ( think it was) eventually whole buildings will be designed around the process.

@kikib48grid 5 жыл бұрын

@@coltmagnus6572 I think the whole idea is interesting, but with all the people who freak out over anything that's not 'natural'...do you think people will accept this? I can hear the negative fear-style news coverage now. Thoughts?

@coltmagnus6572 5 жыл бұрын

@@kikib48grid If they aren't GMO then it shouldn't be an issue. Nutrients and artificial light coupled with watering systems isn't any different except the ability to maximize growth through time spent under lights. Recycled water and solar power to run the buildings. I don't see a problem.

@kikib48grid 5 жыл бұрын

@@coltmagnus6572 Yes, but considering the crazy bad press gmo got? How about 'pink slime' scare which destroyed a major meatpacking business, which sued and must have had a hella case because it ended up settled out of court. ( Lots of money came to the former owners who shared it with all their former employees. Great people.) Sorry about going off on that tangent 🤗but it just goes to show! Anyway, I'm thinking people might be gun shy, like 'What are you using to feed the plants? How do we know THAT'S safe?' And the bigger the operation gets, the more calls for regulations and oversight there will be. All you need is a worried rational-sounding guest on Oprah or the news, for example, for opinions to shift fast. To be clear, I don't have a problem with hydroponics, or farms inside buildings or any of it, as long as its well done, clean etc, I'll eat it. But I hope it grows slowly so everyone gets a chance to adjust. Nice talking to ya!

@qualqui 7 жыл бұрын

Interesting, but.....when the guy said the plants are grown on reusable plastic,....well, plastic, maybe I'm getting all ruffled over nothing but, why plastic, couldn't they use some type of natural hemp fiber?

@nexu6517 7 жыл бұрын

Joe Serrano Dont worry you aren't going to ingest any plastic or chemical in. Its still at its infancy. It'll get better over time.

@WaterspoutsOfTheDeep 7 жыл бұрын

It needs to die. It's a terrible idea and gives nutrient deficient produce and despite what they say is terrible for the environment other than saving water which give me a break. That's ridiculous lets work instead of better water purification methods instead. And many places in the world where most of the farming for the world is already done water isn't a issue like canada and new zealand.

@egazer7165 7 жыл бұрын

WaterspoutsOfTheDeep p sure their secret lies in how nutrients are infused in the plants, something they left out.

@2450logan 7 жыл бұрын

Net pots have to be water resistant , if hemp fibres are used as pots (no don't go there) they have the ability to absorb water and bacteria which cannot be efficiently removed and sterilised compared to conventional plastic net pots

@qualqui 7 жыл бұрын

Hemp fibres have the ability to absorb water and bacteria which cannot efficiently removed and sterilised? Isn't there "good" and "bad" bacteria, from what little I've read up on soil and how its built up over the years, soil isn't just "dirt", its made up of living things, bacteria,fungi and a myriad of insects so small that only with the aid of a microscope can they be seen. If the natural balance of the soil, the whole life cycle is respected there is no need to fear bad bacteria.

@hhsssytem8522 2 жыл бұрын

I love to see those vegetables growing up oxygenated and healthy ☺️☺️

@scp7375 4 жыл бұрын

i think the farms are going to need to be bigger to keep up with pop growth but its a nice idea. if possible might need to up the possible growth each building has. building down along side building up would also give more space to work with and thermal heating / cooling could further cut their energy usage in areas setting it up properly is possible.

@couponville1 8 жыл бұрын

they should put solar panels on the top of their buildings to generate the energy needed for these plants.

@japzone 8 жыл бұрын

Yep, and some already do.

@DraceArios 8 жыл бұрын

Solar isn't cost effective yet

@nowymail 8 жыл бұрын

Plants can use up to about 8% of sunlight. Solar panels can use up to about 25% (let's not consider more effective but highly costly solar cells). So for those plants under a roof covered with solar cells we can provide about 2% (1/4 of 8%) of captured sunlight energy. Or even less than that because some of the energy we will lose as heat due to electric current resistance.

@lontarus 8 жыл бұрын

yes it is

@ratgreen 8 жыл бұрын

Hydroelectricity would be better as you get power 24/7, whereas solar is obviously only when there is sun (ie not during the night)

@SilverWave64 8 жыл бұрын

So why don't we have these everywhere?

@BvousBrainSystems 8 жыл бұрын

My guess is it's spreading slowly over time, as things always do

@jessicab5448 8 жыл бұрын

Resistance of the guys making big money on big agriculture.

@SilverWave64 8 жыл бұрын

Jessica Bayol Duh...why does EVERY potentially world-saving invention fail because of big corporations? Just like permanent magnet engines. Imagine how much cleaner our air would be if we had them.

@SilverWave64 8 жыл бұрын

oggie90 Might be a reason, yes :)

@kennybroberg3173 8 жыл бұрын

I hope you know we use magnets for almost every engine, this is an example of one of the parts: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stator

@rahmanrahmani2896 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic and genius idea and certainly is very promising in the future of agricultures which use no water and less energy to produce food!

@thehorsepeeps3716 3 жыл бұрын

very interesting people should start farming like this!

@janno04 5 жыл бұрын

Neighbour is paying a ton in electricity and he doesn't know why! 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

@ProfeCreepyAdventures 5 жыл бұрын

Solar panels

@edwardjr1562 5 жыл бұрын

LED lights are very efficient. It probably cost for one light to run for like 60 cents a year.

@ernestc5641 4 жыл бұрын

Edward Jr In a normal house and normal lights maybe. With these estimates on normal small LED lights, it’s about $12 a year per each. Those lights they’re using are very specialized (even changes the type of rays) so I wouldn’t be surprised if it were 10 times that per each. www.cnet.com/news/are-efficient-led-bulbs-worth-the-price/

@HangTran-kv4rx 4 жыл бұрын

@@ernestc5641 also do they run Ac in the summer or Heater in the winter for the entire building?

@zoecarlibur 7 жыл бұрын

I didn't know America had a food production problem, more like a food surplus.

@it-tt2ol 7 жыл бұрын

Zim O.E A food waste problem.

@samsero6063 7 жыл бұрын

Zim O.E i didnt know Americans knew what vegetables were

@zoecarlibur 7 жыл бұрын

It's definitely innovative enough, Seems like the kind of thing amazon should get their hands on and figure out a way to scale.

@PlannedObsolescence 7 жыл бұрын

Sam Sero - I'm American and I wish I didn't know what vegetables were. I have to force myself to eat them because they're so hideous to my tastebuds.

@satyampatel491 7 жыл бұрын

Amanda Tessmer That's because you probably just eat vegetables raw with out cooking them

@ajitjain7639 3 жыл бұрын

Great Achievement in standardising the package of practices.

@GrimTactics6226 3 жыл бұрын

This is life changing! I wish we could blow this up

@Mossman04 6 жыл бұрын

At the end of the video "do you believe vertical farming will help? LETTUCE know in the comments below"

@michaelwilliams6431 6 жыл бұрын

John Doe help yeah solve no

@ladyairam3171 6 жыл бұрын

John Doe lol dude

@ChromaticPeace 6 жыл бұрын

It will not help. We're finding now that much of the nutrition we get from vegetables comes from the complex relationship between the organism and the soil-based organisms. It is essential for the health of your gut to have foods that are grown in healthy diverse soils. This is foundation for all complex life. Taking soil out of the equation will be one of the final follies of mankind.

@thomasedison2007 6 жыл бұрын

i suspect you are right. diet will miss micronutrients

@SimonHayter 6 жыл бұрын

Nick, not true. Those living organisms can actually be 'made' and added to the water, its called Aquaponics. A lot of vertical setups include that within its setup.

@francistran432 5 жыл бұрын

"We listen to the plant very carefully..."-CEO @ 2:50. This guy been smoking weeds lol.

@emmanuel1479 5 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@justaninfiredperson 5 жыл бұрын

Francis Tran lol

@janghunfarmtv 3 жыл бұрын

I have been farming in Korea for 20 years from 20 years old. I am interested in hydroponics after watching this video. So, I will try cultivation.

@Urban_Piggy 3 жыл бұрын

I’m blown away!

@yttrium7646 5 жыл бұрын

Thank God someone is working on this! The issue is overlooked so often, it's good to know people are starring to help solve it!

@Dizraptor 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree! It's nice to know that several companies are hitched working in this field and funds and celebrities are investing in them too.

@frozeneternity93 8 жыл бұрын

I am sure these guys have a lot of resistance from conventional big agri

@GradyHouger 8 жыл бұрын

Actually, all the farmers I know think indoor tech farming is neat, and all the ag chemical and machinery suppliers think it's a cool new market. I think indoor farming will become a vital production method for certain types of crops. It won't compete with or even replace any field crops, because you can't build a high tech factory that can produce more food at lower prices than the highly specialized field methods already do.

@inquaanate2393 8 жыл бұрын

In business it's adapt or die, 'big agri' will have to adopt this sort of thing.

@kishorepadayachi3120 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one, new thinking new innovations

@ravindradarji2630 4 жыл бұрын

Future of Agriculture..impressive

@joycepetalio2002 4 жыл бұрын

As an agricultural engineering student, I'm happy that people do this.

@gokhanozden2347 4 жыл бұрын

can you give information about the system

@BrowncoatGofAZ 4 жыл бұрын

We’re called “Biosystems Engineers” now

@newjerseylion4804 4 жыл бұрын

You make vertical farming applicable to potatoes or corn or rice. It is not cost effective.

@NightBazaar 7 жыл бұрын

Do these vertical farms grow anything else other than lettuce?

@ProgrammingP123 7 жыл бұрын

thats a good point.... how the hell are they going to grow corn or wheat???

@alexandregaultier8313 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you !

@MDP1702 7 жыл бұрын

just larger farms/less vertical rows. Although I am not so well informed about these farms, so I am just trying to apply logic. But of course for this kind of crops it might be better to do it outside. I am sure that the people working on this will know what's best to do and ofcourse these lettuce/smaller crops would otherwise need to take more place that can now be used for larger crops

@DreadX10 7 жыл бұрын

A crop that requires bees for pollination seems to be a real challenge with all those fans around. The parts of the plant we don't use are normally turned into fertilizer by the bacteria in the soil to support the next cycle. So growing lettuce indoors is still sitting at a very great distance from being able to grow (most of) all plants for nutrition. We have a long way to go still.

@justinmaloney7108 7 жыл бұрын

they'll find a way.

@michaelstewart3810 4 жыл бұрын

I defiantly agree we need this will this not only use less water but also help with less pollution from tractors/rivers/lakes/wildfire and such

@grep4044 4 жыл бұрын

As the coal fired power plant chugs along to provide the "juice" Hey maybe you could put the power plant out where that old dirt farm was... idiots

@Vospader21 4 жыл бұрын

I saw this a long time ago. Looks like KZfaq’s algorithm decided I should see it again.

@perfectbopangel 8 жыл бұрын

They never touched on animal agriculture and its environmental impact, they should've mentioned it

@vadereabsquenomen793 8 жыл бұрын

Well, it's a different subject, but scientist can grow meat in a lab. So maybe in the future we will make all our food in buildings like these.

@Player_Review 8 жыл бұрын

+vadere absquenomen I hope they make another video with the meat towers, when that is a thing.

@Player_Review 8 жыл бұрын

***** OP was likely referring to negative impacts of so many cattle (methane). vadere was speaking of labs growing meat. I don't think anyone implied a chicken tower, though that would be impressive.

@perfectbopangel 8 жыл бұрын

they should not make meat unless its going to be 100% not from an animal, so many health risks its crazy

@Player_Review 8 жыл бұрын

elizabeth flowers It'll be exciting being the first one eating it though, like the first person on the moon felt, probably.

@OllieWille 8 жыл бұрын

The reasons why this isn't a thing is: 1. Light 2. Cost

@Ant1Link 8 жыл бұрын

it costs alot more to make a normal farm vs a vertical farm. LED Lights are very inexpensive. Alot less water used.

@HALLish-bl3bm 8 жыл бұрын

+Ant1Link Normal farm requirements: some ground. Vertical farm requirements: building, structure, lighting, ventilation, less ground, power etc... Ok if land value is through the roof, vertical farming might be cheaper to set up. But it usually isn't, since farms are not in cities, so the set up cost for a normal farm is lower.

@tcironbear21 8 жыл бұрын

I think this model relies on one big assumption. That people are at least a significant portion of people are willing to pay a premium for fresh vegetables out of season. Like for example if you buy a strawberry in May or June, it will likely to taste much better than the one you bought in December.; This because such a December strawberry was picked green in the Southern Hemisphere so it could survive the transport. Then it was gassed with a maturing agent when it got close to its final retailer. The end result is a strawberry that tastes as bland as one picked 2 weeks too early, but looks mature. Meanwhile the June strawberry was picked just a few days ago in field may just a few hours drive away.This a VERY common tactic across the entire food production industry. Considering how expensive out of season food is to buy (often like 3 to 7 times that of in season food), you could actually make a profit doing this. But my guess is that the margins are still pretty thin, even on seasonal foods. You certainly are not going to grow any wheat or rice this way.

@OllieWille 8 жыл бұрын

***** No counter arguments? Ok

@OllieWille 8 жыл бұрын

TC Coltharp Well for people in cities this will not be a problem because, well, they often have alot more money. Although in this video they present it as if it will be wide spread as a superior option to the current way of producing greens. I think the biggest problem will be light (energy). Maybe in the soon future we will have more disposable energy but if we don't invest more in battery technology and/or nuclear power this idea won't go far. Just imagine moving the plants into a building with lights. Those lights are slightly more efficient than sunlight to supply the plants. But if the energy comes from something like solar (the "green" alternative) we would have to replace the fields with 50% effective solar panels (which is a pretty new technology) to just supply the plants that they have replaced. This is why I'm for nuclear. I'm not against the idea. I just think it sounds a little bit like solar roadways and dell's aircarbon (except those are just bullshit). I really do hope tho that vertical farming could be the best option in the soon future.

@gloriettaeroy4031 4 жыл бұрын

Wow... awesome...

@nicolasmarceau3137 3 жыл бұрын

I thought of this idea when I was 8 years old going through downtown Toronto seeing big tall skyscrapers and thinking of the hungry

@Withnail1969 3 жыл бұрын

How would the hungry pay for expensive food grown in skyscrapers?

@youtubeanswers2458 7 жыл бұрын

I can see a green moon in coming years!

@MPT-io8ml 7 жыл бұрын

KZfaq watchdog Why moon? People can't live there, there is no point on going to the moon. Why not Mars? We can terraform it, but it's difficult.

@cantstumpthetrump5987 7 жыл бұрын

KZfaq watchdog well you're dumb, this video came out 1 year ago and we aren't doing shit with it but growing weed.

@osimmac 7 жыл бұрын

The moon has tonns of ice in some craters that never get sunlight, we could set up base near one of those... The moon would be a GREAT starting spot, its sooo close compared to mars, it would be a lot easier to launch stuff off the moon, we could also start developing techniques for manufacturing stuff in low gravity / no atmospheric environments, and even mine the moon for raw ores. There's no oxidation occurring on the moon, and it's just been sitting there for millennia absorbing asteroids! We should go there and check it out... i bet theres some neet shit der huehueditddgcinn

@vjm3 7 жыл бұрын

Hire SpaceX to transport it for me.

@JohnFuckingDoe 5 жыл бұрын

Soil have left the chat. Sun: Am I a joke to you?

@dkjay4517 4 жыл бұрын

Awesome, idea and decision makes The Man

@yeisondavidortizquiroz9191 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, this idea could solve the problems production because reduce the water consumption and deforestation.

@FalconFastest123 4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if there was a way to use glass ceilings and mirrors to reflect light onto the many levels of crops instead of using electric lighting... Just a thought.

@darrelgaines777 4 жыл бұрын

The heat might be a problem, but with proper ventilation I'm sure it could at least cut the cost of operations. But it would require banks of reflectors and precise angle alignment constantly maintained to adequately light every level, not to mention the cleaning and precautions involved, so the savings might not be worth the trouble. But, send them the idea, anyway, it might be worth more than a thank you.

@zokay1121 4 жыл бұрын

Led lighting is cheap to run and effective.

@markgigiel2722 4 жыл бұрын

@@zokay1121 The create very little heat and are efficient and can be tailored to produce the spectrum of light required by the plants. The humidity level with all those sprays may become a maintenance issue.

@andrewmayers1493 4 жыл бұрын

@@darrelgaines777 The heat would increase the evaporation of the system massively, resulting in exponentially higher water waste.

@darrelgaines777 4 жыл бұрын

@@andrewmayers1493 probably do. Good point.

@robinccc 4 жыл бұрын

Things they fail to mention: massive amount of electricity used to maintain optimum environment plus massive investment that need to be made in buildings that are needed for closed farming such as these.

@jacksonvang3429 4 жыл бұрын

This will force Farmers to close down

@duanewilliams7353 4 жыл бұрын

Plants get no rest from constant sunshine!!!

@Lengsel7 4 жыл бұрын

@@duanewilliams7353 Yeah, I wonder about the constant light part.

@AverageAtBestHDTB 3 жыл бұрын

Electricity is cheap per kWh in the US, makes these vertical farming set ups very much viable if they have the market. Why does it matter that they don't mention it? It's not a bunch of chumps with no concept of P&L. It's simple to pit the cost per m2 against the production and value per m2, that's a basic prerequisite before even starting an operation like this. Now, talking about WHERE the electricity comes from is a fair point. As for the constant lighting, if anybody is running lights 24/7 it is safe to say they do not have a clue what they are doing. Depending on the crop, optimal day/night lengths have been researched many a time to generate the most annual success. Again, it is a trade off from extracting the most from the plant while being mindful of your costs.