"I hate that 'Persona' is an answer because it isn't good and totally entry level JRPG." - Not sure if you're implying gateway JRPGs are a bad thing or not, still a weird Persona take though. "Lol what? Under what rock you live to believe that "retro-styled" 2D games weren't popular or get outdone by 3D?" - I live on this rock called the 'Earth', and I don't think you understood my point, I'm comparing 2D games to the most popular games today like Fortnite and Warzone, which are OBJECTIVELY more popular. "JRPG was niche before Octopath? I guess you're really not into it then. If there's no AAA things it doesn't mean they're forgotten at all or has any lack of fans." - JRPGs were and STILL ARE niche, wtf are you talking about? Most people in the gaming community don't play them. Just because Undertale did extremely well, it was an exception, an no it's not a JRPG because it's not JAPANESE. "Where the hell Octopath took it's inspiration from FF6? If there's any games it took from it's: SaGa, Live A Live and previous game of this producer Bravely Default." - Sure I'll give you that it does take more inspiration from SaGa, but to say that it absolutely doesn't take any inspiration from FF6 is asinine. The artstyle, the combat, the enemy design of Octopath are very similar to FF6. "There's never was any "team build lock", what you even talking about? " - I never said that, wtf are YOU talking about? I said only 2 characters can do a mechanic (getting items, getting info, etc.) and allowing 4 character to do the same mechanic made it a smoother experience. Again, missing the point. "And it forced player to actually build a versatile team instead of '3 mages and a cleric' but sure, let's cal this bad. If anything this isn't a QoL and more of the opposite." - How is this a bad take? Players SHOULD be allowed to build 3 mages and a cleric if they want to. There is 0 benefit in not allowing players to build how they want. "Oh, again with that 'thinking is boooooring' whine from people that can't comprehend quality gameplay and have no attention span. And no, All out and Tera if anything are boring 'pres X to win' time wasters that take stupidly long and make fighting even more single brained. Boost mechanic is much more complicated and about proper strategy with having different effects on different moves." - Why did you even type this? I literally said that boost mechanic was a good system. And if you think the All Out Attacks and Terastallization is just a "press X to win", then you've probably never played these games. "Yep, right, totally. This is why ton of reviews on ton of games mention every time when soundtrack is either gorgeous or horrendous. " - No they don't mention it every time actually. A lot of games have great soundtracks and no one mentions them. I'm not even sure why you even typed this whole comment out. Are you trying to defend the game that I'm calling a MASTERPIECE? Or you do you just derive enjoyment from being an ass?

@@Atmux do you even remember your point? "Persona as definitive modern rpg". When baby easy game which you can complete being brain-dead is considered "definitive" there's clearly a problem... Either with industry or gamers. Compare proper games to overly popular junk? By this compression even proper AAA are unpopular you know... Can we speak about actual gaming industry and not about trash for casuals or eSports? Those are extremely different fields. No one consider FIFA when speaking about games because it's popular for all the wrong reasons. Again either all the games are "niche" because they aren't Fortnite or Pokemon and Persona aren't JRPG. Get at least your mind together. "Most people don't play them"? I can say same thing about Cyberbug, Souls series, GoW because where I am at internet we play Octopath, Fire Emblem and SMT, will it make those unpopular? Actually, first Octopath had amazingly huge coverage so it was popular? The artstyle? Same as in crap ton of games? Since when pixelart belong to FF6? If anything this modern HD-2D is extremely unique. Combat clearly from Bravely Default and has nothing to do with FF6, actually the way classes work is closer to FF3 if you wish. Enemy design... Again this is clownery at this point. You... Said exactly that. I stopped after those words. You was complaining that game forces you to specific team builds to have each of path actions all the time. And no, if anything having 4 characters doing the same things is a waste of potentially other unique actions. Having two doing same already was actually... Because why waste money with merchant when you can steal, or why bother with Cyrus if Alfyn do the same with no penalty. No, player should learn to be smart and utilize different classes instead of spamming 2 hit spell with 3 characters without care about breaking shields. Saying it's good without understanding it is as bad. And lol, of course I didn't play those. Because there's no way anyone who played those without being brain-dead could disagree with you. Yep, sure... P5, again, is a baby level game, I get bored going through it 3rd time even on hard because it's that easy on NG+ especially. All out just fast way to finish encounter if anything survived weakness exploit and Terastrallization I didn't even use outside of dens because I was already overpowered by being smart... Coming to a bage underleveled didn't help too. Only time game used Terastrallization smart was at electric gym. Again, either you're wrong, play bad games or watch wrong people. I rarely see review that don't mention music if it's actually good. Why... Good question. Because I love pointing out awful mistakes that people may believe without knowing any better and get too many things wrong. And calling game a masterpiece mean nothing if you do it with ton of bad takes on other games, no understanding the genre and industry as a whole.

What makes you think the game is failing in Japan? & ya, I'm not reading that entire message lol. Needs paragraphs.

@@skins4thewin Sales reports. Game seriously underperforming for a multiplatform title... Because Square don't know how to hype up and promote anything good apparently. And lol, I just put all of my opinions on this nonsense video in one comment instead of your spamming a ton of them.

@@Louis_Cyphriel Ah I see. That is a real shame to hear.... True tho that there has been basically zero marketing for the game which is a shame. A game like this badly needs the marketing. That said I want to buy a copy! But not til I at least see if it'll go on sale, which if it's selling that poorly I imagine it will at some point. Hoping it'll still be available for purchase around Black Friday time & can grab a copy then! Am in no real rush as I have plenty of other games to keep me occupied in the meantime including the 1st game which I just recently started.

congrats man

Thoughts on triangle strategy

its a bit repetative over time, some good units but alot are similar and there isnt the depth of OP2 character building. id wait for it to be 20 bucks and probably worth a pick up@@the8thgate543

Burger King foot lettuce.

😂so true

XD

Voice inflection keeping the ADHDs watching​@@Atmux

Crazy how much content there is!

I have put up 180hrs on my second run, first time play in Japanese, and now in English, just simply wanna enjoy the dialogue

Great game

Same,try then changing difficulty if you use the steam version i love tough bosses@@keoneeweyummy9610

A masterpiece not many will play 😔

I wouldn’t call OT1 unfinished… …just that the ending stumbled during landing. So they improved it in OT2

Yep! Loved that they included this in the game.

If only this game had proper marketing from Square.

OT2 is very good, but game developpers can do much better, with good direction and budget.

@@KSpartan Oh, for sure. OT2 isn't perfect by any means, and in certain ways, in my opinion, a step back. Like cohesive, immersive storytelling with all parties involved, for example, like the old school final fantasy games. But like you said, with proper funding and direction, I'd imagine we'll see some really impressive stuff down the road.

@@corndog9482 In my opinion, the idea that turn base gameplay is somewhat bad is a big problem. I am actually fairly good at competitive at multi-player PvP game(Racing, fighting, RTS, FPS etc) , yet, my favorite games are turn based. So from my point of view of a capable player, I don't get why turn based games have become unpopular, if they actually are. Turn base doesn't necessary means retro styled in my book. That is my complaint. It's ok to do retro. OT2 is actually doing it really well, and it has its charm. But what I meant in my first comment is : turn based game can be graphically more ambitious and modern than FF6. There were never a lot of animated sprites in FF6 btw. And it is a major flaw to me. Because SNES games were not necessarily this static. I can respect the fact that FF6 was very popular for valid reasons. But we're are in year 2023. I am not asking for Gran Theft Auto level of ambition. I am just saying that in the technical department, OT2 is nowhere near my technical expectations in the JRPG. And I actually really love OT2 at the moment. It's a blast so far. The game is doing it right in a lot of categories. But in 2023, there is a lot of margin for graphical improvement. It's the most obvious. Not the only one. That being said, I take what we have with this great game. And I am grateful for the work done on it.

Sames here 😬

Is there too much grind or it's okay? How do you grind in this game?

@@cheekydemon6131 There's is a little grinding but it's not bad. I actually enjoy it because the battle system is so fun. You can just run around and get into random battles. There is a way to reduce the number of random encounters that occur. It unlocks with a specific character's skill. You can equip or unequip it anytime once you unlock it.

@@cheekydemon6131 A lot of grinding. Even when you are at the level for the chapters. I feel like you gotta get stronger to beat the main boss.

@@franciscoargueta3423 Thank you for an answer. This game looks so beautiful, but I don't want lose time with grinding 😔

The game apparently didn't sell well and the devs already stated that there will probably be no 3rd entry anymore. You could check out Live A Live if you haven't already

well when you are older than 10 you dont call this stories as "compeling,wonderful or interesting." they are all boring as fuck. as whole game. they didnt improved anything. its still 8 lazy asf stories put into one game. thats it.

@@IIIiiiDAWiiiIII I wholeheartedly disagree with you

@@themysteriousherb2081 all stories are basic asf, non of them collide with any party member so whole OCTOPATH is pointless. you have 8 solo stories without any party member involved in anything. this is dlc to octopath. nothing new was added, typical cash grab.

@@IIIiiiDAWiiiIII Octopath Traveler II had side stories featuring two travellers, as well as a final chapter where all 8 travellers would see their stories be linked with each other

I have to start on the trails as well...

@@Atmux I wish you good luck. You'll need it.

This is great and the Trails games are another wonderful series that I'd highly recommend.

Agreed

Actually from what I'm hearing this game is so many times better compared to the first one.

Yep. Nishiki is just as good as other music legends like Soken and Uematsu.

@@Atmux Agreed.

Dq8 is the only one I feel did battles poorly due to needing to rely on tensing up which dragged out battles way too long. Plus the story was extremely slow to boot. I like it for its immense post game but it gets tough to push through its boring mid game.

OT 2 is surprisingly very streamlined for turn based rpgs.

This ost is seriously underrated. There's just so much detail in it.

Hopefully it doesn't end here.

Now i wish i did too..

I'm so sad cus i was too broke to get the collectors edition at that time 😭. I refuse to spend money on jacked up resales. At least i got the special edition for octopath 1...i love the pop up book. Though the bust miniatures would be cool too cus i can actually easily display it.

Yep, its criminal that this game isn't as popular as the first because of bad marketing.

Urm, FF12 was pretty great. Last of the good FF's.

It's too bad Square didn't market this game well enough as the first 😔

Underrated ost tbh

The first one was published (and pushed hard) by Nintendo everywhere outside Japan; the sequel is published globally by Square-Enix, who at some point got it in their heads that they could coast on brand recognition and didn't need to put any effort into marketing (which KIND OF makes sense for Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, but they act like being known as the makers of those games means everything they put out will automatically sell just based on having the SE name on the box). That's why you never heard about it.

Yep. Square being bad at marketing as usual.

It really is a special experience, hopefully the players can spread the word on how good this game is.

Honestly the game plays like a series of short stories so it's pretty good to just chip away at over a long period of time

I bought the game 3 weeks ago, was on sale in my country and since there's short stories you can play at your own pace without really disconecting. I think is very worth a shot and the music is awesome.

The genre was always anime af dude. Right from the beginning, the two big franchises that defined it had character designs by the creators of Dragon Ball and Vampire Hunter D, with writing to match. You just didn't notice because they got swapped out for generic Frank Frazetta knockoff fantasy novel cover style art for the US release and the sprite graphics of the time weren't detailed enough to convey the artists' vision without a hefty assist from the player's imagination, and on the writing side, you weren't familiar with anime tropes yet.

@@LPTheGas Lol oh trust me, I am as familiar w Anime as anyone out there. Been watching since the early 90's before anyone even knew what it was. And I can tell ya for certain that things have gotten more tropey than ever, including Anime itself! Even Anime used to be a heck of a lot better than it is now. And ya I am definitely not trying to say that the story in Octopath 1 isn't tropey or is great or anything, that's for sure. Am just saying the game itself aka the battle system & mechanics are rather refreshing & not just your run of the mill generic turn based JRPG.

Yea the marketing for this game was not that good.

Koichi Sugiyama, the godfather of JRPG music, the DQ composer. While he was a despicable person, he did set the path for all video game composers to follow.

@@txgoldrush How was he despicable? What'd he do that was so bad?

@@skins4thewin He denied Japanese war crimes in WWII and said some heinous stuff about LGBT people committing suicide.

@@txgoldrush Eh... far lesser ppl have done far worse than that I'd say. Then again I don't exactly know the whole story so yeah, can't really judge.

@@skins4thewin No, what he did was the Japanese equivalent of holocaust denial.

Yeah the lack of marketing really killed this game.

I saw an advertisement for it on youtube randomly, I don't usually play theses type of games, the music drew me in!!! Definitely worth the $60 price tag!!!

Kinda sad hiw Square didn't market this game as well as the first.

Glad you liked it!

Awesome, thank you!

Thanks!

Thanks, I'll check it out!

Yep. So many good games coming out soon.

Hope you enjoy it!

I appreciate that!

My napkin math might be slightly off 😅

😰 my bad. I'll put a spoiler warning next time.

Shut up

The sad reality 😞

Good taste

Heathens don't.

You're in the minority of gamers who know that game. 😎

@@Atmux Agreed. It's unfortunate that more people haven't played it. Honestly reminded me of the golden era of JRPGs. It was so good and did so many things right.

FF7 prelude

Thank you so much@@Atmux

Thanks!

Glad to hear that.

Got octopath traveler 1 and 2

I used the lost tribe sword on hikari. I forgot where i found it though.

@@Atmux find it thanks a lot 🤩🤩 maybe it Can help some people : Its the Boss Shark who give it ;)

Rpgs are making a big comeback this year. 😀

Fair point. Usually you can find the npc somewhere else during different times of day.

I don't think it failed per se, but it isn't doing that well mainly due to poor marketing.

Couldn't agree more!