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Scientists Against Myths

Scientists Against Myths

Күн бұрын

Look: Olga Vdovina from Kemerovo carved a trihedral inner corner in granite like in an ancient Egyptian sarcophagus.
So given:
- granite
- flint, sandstone
- her slender hands
- her skill and perseverance
- 40 hours of hard work
Long, hard? Yes. But keep in mind that Olga, unlike the ancient stonemasons, was doing this kind of work for the first time in her life. And, as she said herself, 'the sculptor is not very tired'. We could do that again!
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@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths Жыл бұрын
Full version of the video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/frdilat2nNO4mWg.html
@AIenSmithee
@AIenSmithee Жыл бұрын
I love the responses to this like "It would take too long"....for who? We have to remember this type of stonework was pre Tik Tok.
@PyroChimp75
@PyroChimp75 Жыл бұрын
That's my opinion too - they didn't have the internet to distract them. They carved rocks instead.
@myxomatosisity9977
@myxomatosisity9977 Жыл бұрын
The construction on prehistoric structures was over the span of thousands pf years. It DID take long.
@gustavoq5813
@gustavoq5813 Жыл бұрын
Right, it was a completely different economic and social system. They had totally different priorities and incentives. These pyramidiots think the world was always as we see it today, they are too ignorant to see it from another perspective.
@user-un8tv1pp8m
@user-un8tv1pp8m 11 ай бұрын
@@myxomatosisity9977 😲 What are you talking about? The egyptians built large temples, even pyramids in a few years. Even the really long-running projects in history like gothic cathedrals rarely took longer than a few hundred years - and eve that only if the construction got interrupted by war or similar. "thousands of years...." - source please. Lets not get mythological on a channel dubbed "scientists against mythology", huh?
@wombatjack3995
@wombatjack3995 5 ай бұрын
Conflating “building the pyramids in a FEW years” with “GOTHIC cathedrals taking a FEW HUNDRED years” is just as manipulative don’t you think. Did the Egyptians not go through wars during construction, did the gothics not have many millennium of further scientific advancement. What you have asserted is just as void and baseless of realistic possibility but you want sources without giving any? It’s way more probable that techniques used on this channel WOULD take many generations if not thousands of years. People are not computer simulations or calculations. The workers need housing, tools, food, and entertainment. All factoring into the man hours available to build anything let alone temples. A bad growing season could set projects back years at a time, just like in modern day construction. The civilization still needed to meet basic needs they didn’t use every waking moment to do one single task that’s obvious. Sure on paper scholars thousands of years later can figure out a way to retroactively build these structures, but that is laughable to think that’s what happened in reality. Your argument lacks nuance entirely and you just want to dunk on the other team. That’s not science it’s tribalism 😢
@rogeriopenna9014
@rogeriopenna9014 Жыл бұрын
The World of Antiquity Channel released a couple of weeks ago a big 44 minutes video about stone working in ancient egypt, including some clips from this channel. As for the amount of time spent on such tasks, they showed some Indian workers who have been carving stone on some religious monuments for over 20 years. Awesome stonework and they are pretty happy to be working on that: they have good lives in their opinion and are doing that for their HINDU GODS. Why wouldn´t ancient Egyptians work 20 or more years carving stone for their gods, pharaos, etc?
@willemdebruyn3715
@willemdebruyn3715 Жыл бұрын
If you have a whole industry set up for this, with people specializing in certain aspects, I could see this going a whole lot faster.
@philsurtees
@philsurtees Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Furthermore, what people forget is that in the time of the Ancient Egyptians, there was no such thing as CERN, or MIT, or Google, or heart transplants, etc., so their smartest people - who had the same brains as us - spent their entire lives figuring out how to do this, and how to stack stones on top of one another, and then they taught others, who spent their whole lives doing it. There's no great mystery to it, really...
@MrOttopants
@MrOttopants Жыл бұрын
I'm just always impressed by the amount of effort and focus that some of these folks put into their work. I can work for about 15 minutes at a time on any given project. It's just really too bad that some people (cough- ancient advanced technology believers) can't give the same kind of credit to people who did this sort of work thousands of years ago.
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 9 ай бұрын
The _"I_ am unskilled and unwilling, therefore aliens" deduction does seem to skip a few steps.
@bozo5632
@bozo5632 Жыл бұрын
If a modern person can do this much by hand with simple tools, just imagine how much better the Egyptians could do it back in the day with pyramid powered alien lasers.
@gustavoq5813
@gustavoq5813 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@jessevennard2640
@jessevennard2640 Жыл бұрын
She’s clearly an alien.
@carlpeberdy9086
@carlpeberdy9086 3 ай бұрын
Only an alien could hammer that fast!
@winterheartz012
@winterheartz012 Жыл бұрын
I knew it! They used girls!!! Not some lost technology.
@jps101574
@jps101574 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear Graham Hancock's reaction to this video. She must be from that "Highly advanced civilization" to work stone like that. Unfortunately, Joe Rogan probably won't invite her onto his show.
@AIenSmithee
@AIenSmithee Жыл бұрын
I know exactly what he’d say. He’d have this diatribe of bad maths, saying it would 2 years with 100 workers and then segue to the size of the pyramids and lifting granite beams 300 feet in the air and something about him climbing them 5 times. Then after banging on about how the physics and maths don’t add up “slope that’s 10 degrees” etc, say something about “telekinesis”. After that he’d say “I’m just a journalist”. Its a script he has down pat now and nearly jumps into with any question he is asked.
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 9 ай бұрын
That'd be 20 40-hour weeks for one corner of a sarcophagus. Run two shifts and that's 10 weeks. Put one stonemason on each corner and that's 2 weeks for the internal corners. Maybe 3-4 weeks for the internal sides which are bigger but easier. Double it to finish the outsides : 8 stonemasons, 12 weeks duration : 1 sarcophagus in one of the fallow seasons.
@kenboydart
@kenboydart Жыл бұрын
SO, THIS IS HOW SPACE ALIENS DID IT !
@user-un8tv1pp8m
@user-un8tv1pp8m Жыл бұрын
Nooo, the atlanteans. Silly!
@bobyneotuberunsdesrty
@bobyneotuberunsdesrty 11 ай бұрын
Nice Lazer she uses
@unclescipio3136
@unclescipio3136 Жыл бұрын
And she's an amateur, not some dude who is a professional stoneworker and the son and grandson of stoneworkers in a culture which has been working stone for thousands of years, and who grew up doing this. Most of these ancient alien people have never done any serious labour, and it's blatantly obvious.
@kungfumaster12
@kungfumaster12 Жыл бұрын
and she still manage to fail at it. cause it ended up poorly done. everyone knows you can do it the hard way. but this isn't how ancient humans did things. they was smarter then this. smh
@unclescipio3136
@unclescipio3136 Жыл бұрын
@@kungfumaster12 there is no evidence that they did it any other way. And sure, compared to the masters of the craft, she's not as good. It would be weird if she were.
@kungfumaster12
@kungfumaster12 Жыл бұрын
@@unclescipio3136 there is proof they did it with technology. there is no proof they did it like her. it's just a way to do it. but not the best way to do it. tools and technology is how you get quality above the hand crafting masters.
@unclescipio3136
@unclescipio3136 Жыл бұрын
@@kungfumaster12 on the contrary, handcrafting nearly always produces superior results. And there is no evidence of machinery or the necessary technology in the ancient world.
@kungfumaster12
@kungfumaster12 Жыл бұрын
@@unclescipio3136 not surprised that you are wrong. there is evidence. my channel has the evidence. smh.
@ddavidjeremy
@ddavidjeremy Жыл бұрын
Oh, well Graham Hancocks lost civilization has been found and apparently theyre immortal as well.
@ddavidjeremy
@ddavidjeremy 10 ай бұрын
@@RusssianPerson he probably said, "we are a species with hydrangeas"
@deths1679
@deths1679 Жыл бұрын
I like to use flint, jasper, and chert in my stone work, I hadn’t seen anyone else using it before. They seem way harder than granite, but the tool geometry and technique is very important because they can shatter easily
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
But......but........but - it doesn't look the same...... lol! That is what the _devotees_ of the "alternative" argument will quibble about. What matters of course is that stone can be worked using the technique shown - flint and other gneiss stone tools. What you end up with is emblematic of the skill of the artisan and the time and resources devoted to the project. Moral of the story: in the case of say the ancient Egyptians things were not produced by some rando in a mud brick hut. They had teams of craftsmen and supporting personnel who spent their lives honing their skills and who usually worked for someone such as the Pharaohs or wealthy temples who maintained their own staff etc.. Then as now = you got what you paid for.
@MrForestExplorer
@MrForestExplorer 10 ай бұрын
She's clearly an Alien space-robot. Who's hand can tap tap tap that fast?!
@anotherprimate2509
@anotherprimate2509 Жыл бұрын
Nice work to the person with perseverance
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 9 ай бұрын
Surprise twist: she _is_ an alien
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056
@bigmouthstrikesagain4056 Жыл бұрын
Impossible?... no Hard?.....yes
@TheAEWPhantom
@TheAEWPhantom Жыл бұрын
She moves quicker than the Flash
@markimusmaximus7870
@markimusmaximus7870 Жыл бұрын
Gives me even more repect & appreciation, for the stunning works of art, the ancient Egyptians produced from buildings,statues to sarcophagi
@nicoscarfo4486
@nicoscarfo4486 Жыл бұрын
She crafts a stone vase like this too, not in granite though
@bozo5632
@bozo5632 Жыл бұрын
It was diorite.
@swirvinbirds1971
@swirvinbirds1971 Жыл бұрын
It was diorite which is harder than granite.
@nicoscarfo4486
@nicoscarfo4486 Жыл бұрын
@@swirvinbirds1971 lol diorite is softer than granite, granite is a 6 and diorite is 5.5
@swirvinbirds1971
@swirvinbirds1971 Жыл бұрын
@@nicoscarfo4486 😂 diorite is a harder, more durable rock than granite. Diorite might contain small amounts of apatite, ilmenite, microcline, and other minerals. It is rated as 7 on the Moh's hardness scale (about the same as quartz). Come on man... This stuff is easy to Google you know. 🙄
@The1stDukeDroklar
@The1stDukeDroklar Жыл бұрын
This channel is hosted by aliens. Did you see how fast her hands were moving?
@hairyjohnson2597
@hairyjohnson2597 7 ай бұрын
But they didnt have pencils back then!
@floydriebe4755
@floydriebe4755 Жыл бұрын
well done, m'lady! nary a machine in sight👍😁 now, on to the full version😊
@chiznowtch
@chiznowtch Жыл бұрын
Nice but so much easier w/an ancient angle grinder powered by baghdad batteries working under the soft glow of dendera lights.
@Emphasis213
@Emphasis213 Жыл бұрын
So the Egyptians had the fast forward feature?
@ghos7bear
@ghos7bear Жыл бұрын
DEBOONKED
@offinthehaed
@offinthehaed Жыл бұрын
Lots of Egyptian coffee....
@michaelmartinez5217
@michaelmartinez5217 3 ай бұрын
Im not taking away from her skills. But can she also recreate the "scoop" marks left behind at the unfinished obelisk? I have seen some natural underground water cut "channels" tunnels that have very similar marks. Maybe it's a clue to cut stone faster.
@maximus-6788
@maximus-6788 8 ай бұрын
Aliens melting stones
@TymexComputing
@TymexComputing Жыл бұрын
Well done, no geometry can cope with this girl
@thesaneparty4079
@thesaneparty4079 8 ай бұрын
She's working like she's possessed by an alien.
@ghos7bear
@ghos7bear 3 ай бұрын
SHE IS NOT UNDER ALIEN CONTROL
@paulisfat8077
@paulisfat8077 4 ай бұрын
I was told this was impossible.
@memorydrain7806
@memorydrain7806 2 ай бұрын
Clearly, an ancient advanced civilization taken out by a meteor taught her everything she knows. JuS LooK At thE pReciSHUN
@yoimosan
@yoimosan Жыл бұрын
All that time lapsing and cutting to different days and all she did was cut a 2 inch deep square into the corner of it?
@gustavoq5813
@gustavoq5813 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone actually doing the work and not “theorizing” fairy tales on TV shows.
@nicolasfranco6490
@nicolasfranco6490 Жыл бұрын
What happened to the diorite vase project?
@ScientistsAgainstMyths
@ScientistsAgainstMyths Жыл бұрын
Its finished. The video is coming soon
@darrenb3830
@darrenb3830 Жыл бұрын
No it's not possible, didn't happen, aliens done it.
@pilkpulk8284
@pilkpulk8284 Жыл бұрын
maybe she is the alien....
@edwells4769
@edwells4769 7 ай бұрын
Yeah but lasers and aliens could do it quicker
@1206anton
@1206anton Жыл бұрын
Forty hours on that bit? How many hours would it have taken them for the granite boxes in the serapeum? She picked up a corner of the outside. And now a perfect piece in the inside.
@unclescipio3136
@unclescipio3136 Жыл бұрын
Well, they'd be faster, because she's an amateur, and they were experts. She's discovering techniques and tools as she goes along, and they knew all this stuff already. Also, she's alone. They'd have teams of dudes doing this.
@PyroChimp75
@PyroChimp75 Жыл бұрын
'Many hands make light work'
@AIenSmithee
@AIenSmithee Жыл бұрын
The Atlantians of the gaps argument. An ever shrinking landscape or personal incredulity.
@1206anton
@1206anton Жыл бұрын
@@AIenSmithee That are no arguments. That are questions.
@AIenSmithee
@AIenSmithee Жыл бұрын
@@1206anton kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZtyigKuAtcmxpok.html
@gimmenm9
@gimmenm9 Жыл бұрын
Admirable, but you'll see a lack of precision from this work compared to what we are seeing in Egypt. Look closely and the tool marks will differ as well, indicating a different method (cutting vs grinding vs chiseling) was used.
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын
That would appear to be an unsupported view.
@nalinux
@nalinux Жыл бұрын
It has not been polished here. We already did in neolithic.
@PRH123
@PRH123 3 ай бұрын
I would guess you’ve never been to Egypt and have no idea what different tool marks look like. As if you have the ability to measure precision from a u tube video.
@BeeLarryKing
@BeeLarryKing 9 ай бұрын
Was that supposed to match the craftsmanship of the pyramid?
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 9 ай бұрын
A lot of the stonework _in_ the pyramids is really rough. It's only casing stones and the linings of passages and chambers that have good accuracy. That alone shows that it wasn't a high tech base.
@mevenstien
@mevenstien Жыл бұрын
:)
@chilledadvocate8502
@chilledadvocate8502 Жыл бұрын
Why
@bluelantern144
@bluelantern144 Жыл бұрын
Do you know nothing about Egyptian culture and the discussion surrounding it?
@rickyspark4847
@rickyspark4847 Жыл бұрын
only took her 2 months to remove 2 square inches of granite 🤔
@AIenSmithee
@AIenSmithee Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call this "remove 2 inches of granite". Its easy to "remove" granite. Making a perfect edge is the hard part.
@cynodont7391
@cynodont7391 Жыл бұрын
40 hours is only 4 or 5 days of work.
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
She worked by herself to include maintaining her own tools. The ancient Egyptians on the other hand would be working in teams.
@rickyspark4847
@rickyspark4847 Жыл бұрын
@@varyolla435 really in the same corner? How many in the team ?
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
@@rickyspark4847 You're quibbling now....... 🤭 Moral of the story: as many as are needed....... The historical evidence shows whereby the Egyptians here highly organized. The "graffiti" found in the pyramids etc. as but one example show that work gangs - phyles - carried specific identification names to differentiate between them. Accounts from Deir el-Medina outside the Valley of the Kings refer to such phyles by the work they did: "left wall" versus "right wall" indicating that one team worked each side of a corridor being excavated. They refer to individuals assigned whose job was to swap out blunted tools for fresh ones and to weigh them to prevent pilferage of broken bits - copper was a valuable resource after all. Egyptologists excavating around Saqqara over the years have unearthed underground caches containing mummified animals = literally millions of them. Further they were of differing qualities with some exceptionally well done with others being facsimiles of lower quality - aka "knock-offs" likely for sale to tourists. This bespeaks of a large industry created to produce this volume of work - to say nothing of ancillary people supplying all the necessary materials. So I have just shown you evidence of a structured production base for ancient Egypt. These were not primitives. So what do you have beyond your endless questions of no real value........ 🤨
@1206anton
@1206anton Жыл бұрын
Can you also demonstrate how to move 80 tons of granite boxes 500 miles by hand and place them in a niche in a cave. And ask yourself why on earth would you want to do that?
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
Why do people today still build churches and tithe money to them - despite they themselves being poor??? People will rationalize doing almost anything because of their religious beliefs. p.s. - stone like everything else was moved = on barges via the Nile. Ancient harbors and canals once lined the Nile River area and delta.
@1206anton
@1206anton Жыл бұрын
@@varyolla435 Did those stone boxes have a religious significance? How do you know?
@varyolla435
@varyolla435 Жыл бұрын
@@1206anton It would take too long to explain ancient Egyptian beliefs here to you. Suffice to say if you make the effort to learn about their beliefs = you will have your answers..... I have pointed you in the direction you need to go and the rest is up to you. 🤔
@AIenSmithee
@AIenSmithee Жыл бұрын
What are you implying?
@1206anton
@1206anton Жыл бұрын
@@AIenSmithee I imply nothing. That are just questions.
@g-funk484
@g-funk484 2 ай бұрын
if you measure the precision achieved by ancient people you will see its not possible by hand, no one said it cant be done at all, you should take this "model" measure it and show us how "perfect" it is
@StoneInMySandal
@StoneInMySandal Ай бұрын
There’s no such thing as precise ancient stonework. When you see it in person, you can also see how not precise it is. You can definitely feel how not precise it is. The ancient conspiracy/lost civilization/lost technology people exploit the lack of experience in their target audience.
@g-funk484
@g-funk484 Ай бұрын
@@StoneInMySandal ok if you say so, go and look at the measurements measured by uncharted x on the stones vases, barabar caves scanned recently, numbers dont lie, objects do weather over time, not every ancient object is perfect thats not the point, the point is what we measure now,how flat,smooth,distance, h blocks show 1m height way before we even have the meter, this is what precision means with out machines
@SD11729
@SD11729 Ай бұрын
@@g-funk484most of UnchartedX’s work relies on him going “look, see it IS perfect just take my word for it.” In reality most of his measurements are misleading. Also the ancient Egyptians had an incredibly skilled craft industry
@g-funk484
@g-funk484 Ай бұрын
@@SD11729 i do believe they had allot of skills, but i also think it was done on a lathe and not by hand as its stone, you can tell by eye when something is done by hand, they say Egyptians didnt have lathes so what explains the vase balancing on a point like an egg it must be pretty well balanced, also barabar caves show the most hi level of "hand carved" precise curves and lines
@SD11729
@SD11729 Ай бұрын
@@g-funk484 the Egyptians had lathes at least as far back as 1300 BCE. also all the people claiming that stuff had like super “high precision” levels of curves and lines are misrepresenting the level of precision lol.
@megalithicblock
@megalithicblock Жыл бұрын
Could you make another peice that interlocks with that one? Could you carve a semetrical face like they did? How did they keep it polished so good for 1000s of years. This video only proves that you can chip away at it. Could you make a small statue or a vase kike they did
@somethingelse4424
@somethingelse4424 Жыл бұрын
Why does "like" auto correct to "k*ke" on your device? What kinds of things are you typing every day? 😂
@megalithicblock
@megalithicblock Жыл бұрын
@@somethingelse4424 lmaooo honest mistake
@somethingelse4424
@somethingelse4424 Жыл бұрын
@@megalithicblock I'm sure it was. 🫡🤔
@Eyes_Open
@Eyes_Open Жыл бұрын
I hope you have had time to view the other videos on this channel. Stone work requires huge labour investment, not mysterious technology
@damon2692
@damon2692 Жыл бұрын
Good effort, but still far far from the real deal.
@robbailey6476
@robbailey6476 11 ай бұрын
40 hours! So clearly that's not how any of the granite in megalithic Egypt was cut. Nice demonstration, though.
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 9 ай бұрын
That'd be 20 40-hour weeks for one corner of a sarcophagus. Run two shifts and that's 10 weeks. Put one stonemason on each corner and that's 2 weeks for the internal corners. Maybe 3-4 weeks for the internal sides which are bigger but easier. Double it to finish the outsides : 8 stonemasons, 12 weeks duration : 1 sarcophagus in one of the fallow seasons.
@lifechann
@lifechann 11 ай бұрын
her efforts are invalid because she used a ruler and a pencil
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 9 ай бұрын
:)
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