As someone who has no rated levels but loves creating this video is so real. I love creating but I'm really not that good at all. Instead of being mad and jealous of people who are successful, I get inspired by them, learn things from them, and wanna be like them. These hate comments really trigger me because no one who puts time and effort into making good levels deserve it.

Geometry Dash players trying not to start a controversy every 2 seconds:

A very relatable video I must admit. I remember when I got my second rate and there was a lot of hate in the comments. I asked in the comments what exactly was wrong with the level, but I got disliked and I was told never to build anything again. After my first epic level, I was very motivated to build more, but I wanted to do something very simple this time. After this level got a feature, people said that I wasn't trying, that I made a boring level. When 2.2 came out, hope and motivation returned a bit and I tried making a platform level. I really liked it and was proud of it, but my expectations were greatly disappointed because it didn't get what I wanted, and people in the comments immediately started insulting my level and me. Now, I don't really know what I'm doing and how to do it. I'm trying to muster the motivation to do anything. Wish me luck.

people are really not even trying to hide their envy. it's so stupid.

I agree 100% percent with the comment part. I got so much hate on my recent epic lvl and most of people in comments don't make constructive comments

You totally forgot a very important point: Branding. When you make a lot of levels in a certsin style, they will look so similar that the players will easily recognize you for your creating style, you can also see split and dubstep as examples of this. The problem lies when people try to force you to make something original when you start doing the same style, but when you do your own recognizable style and make a LOT of levels using it, the same people that begged for you to make something original will hate on you for creating the same thing over and over again. Its so frustrating to see comments like that when creators have their OWN style and therefore they have the right to milk whatever they want. I saw it on split, then croco, then yun, and the list goes on and on. And also, that "mod bias" and people complaining about unknown creators getting harder standards is pure bs. My rated level has decorations that are copied 1-1 from youtune tutorials. Yes, almost all of the deco, bg and air deco was made from tutorials, but i still got a rate, even when a mod sent it for feature hours before. So yeah, that is pretty much debunked since forever. Well, here goes my wall text. Great video btw!!!

I've always hated how a lot of these players that do this assume amount of quality = amount of effort. Seriously people need to stop crapping on levels that aren't literally perfect to them. It often isn't people that have created at all, they are just spoilt royally (never having a reality check). Will also say that this jealousy people are having is probably gonna get worse, since rated levels are constantly getting more rare to achieve and therefore more artificially valued. I gotta be honest, it was a terrible idea to lock an achievement behind it. I imagine this would have been way less of a problem (by a ton). It's not just young people that get jealous enough to do this, it's just "Most of the GD community + valued thing = people jealous for that thing" Granted Rob could let elder mods help as well (with rates, since I assume he trusts them enough) to lower the value of a rate and therefore the jealousy. Rob could also make some sort of disclaimer regarding hate comments BUT that could cause it to become worse if people take it the wrong way. It's not the best situation but what is? Doubt it'll ever get better naturally, it's practically ruining itself.

My number one creating rule is : if you don’t have fun building a level, don’t push yourself too hard, maybe try another day when you get the motivation back.

I see this situation the same way, people think of creators as people who just create for creator points and know it will get rated cuz rob knows them more, but it's not true, they create because it's actually really fun, if they had no reason to, their levels would simply not look good because they have no reason to create other than the thought of creator points in mind, the 4 levels I have made were all for fun and I enjoyed making them so much, even if none of my levels I ever post get rated, I'm just happy because it was a way of expressing my self and I had and will have a lot of fun creating.

Thank you for this video. As a creator and a player I can agree that hating for no bigger reason doesn't help either side. It's just a game after all.

something interesting i noticed with my two rated levels is that the second one got way more criticism than the first, almost as if people expected to perfect my creating skills after getting creator points. that is simply just not how it works lol, seriously improving at creating will take more than one or two levels

Dude, I completely agree. I dont make levels too much, but I love creating. It infuriates me so much seeing people hating levels for seemingly no reason when the creators are just trying to enjoy the game. The negativity that people spread to some creators is so unnecessary. We are all trying to enjoy the game in our own way so there is no need for those people to feel hate or jealousy towards them. Creators put time into their levels and it's a shame people ignore their efforts and spread hate towards them. We should all focus on the quality of the level and not how much creator points they have. Great video, Ausk I really enjoyed it.

I must admit that when i got my first creator points i've had the feeling of making people not enjoy my level cause maybe for their gameplay, their decorations, and i felt so bad at the time, and this happened for hate comments, then some friends helped me to go throught with it. But still, even some comments can hurt someone's feelings, they are still words and words could hurt even more than weapons. I also want to thank you for making this video explaining the situation

I'm still surprised that How To Adventure got quite a beautiful amount of love and good criticism (which has led to some level updates which improved it) when it got featured (I honestly expected rob to just rate it but both feature and second place on the first page for almost an entire day for my first ever rated level in the almost 10 years of me playing this game was so awesome), but yeah, it's also been pretty full of some useless hate comments, and one I straight up removed which hoped I'll end up becoming "another Advy" this isn't a joke btw this was an actual comment on the level at one point. Not taking it seriously of course lol but how does one publish that horrible of a comment without thinking twice?

GD comment sections are just twitter without a minimum age at this point

i also agree with this, people don't leave any constructive criticism when i post a level and just hate on it sometimes. i don't let it get to me though since i love creating so i liked how you described this whole controversy thing. you've earned my sub and like, keep up the great work man :)

i feel like i cant make anything without seeing what other people make and becoming demotivated immediately anymore

Your a real one for this, ive noticed this issue too and it really has killed my joy in creating myself... it just felt like it has been becoming worse and worse.

my first 2 levels both got rated within a day of their first send and believe it or not i lost a few friends over it for this exact reason.

I feel like 90% of those comments are made by people who spent 20 hours to get 7 likes on a good level (but not like a masterpiece) and then get frustrated and leave their frustration on creators that get rates with level made in like 6 hours and they are jelous of them...

Seeing Bridget make really cool levels like “Fun Shapes” and “bStep” in such a short amount of time is part of what got me back into creating. It made me wonder if I could possibly make a rate worthy level within the span of a month or maybe even a week. The levels I ended up making took WAY longer than that, but that didn’t really matter since I was now able to finish levels for the first time since 2.0. What Bridget was able to do in her time creating for this game is genuinely so impressive, and it was so weird seeing people hating on her for it instead of being inspired.

I absolutely agree with your statements. Well said ausk! People should create what they want to create. If you are going to criticize someone for not creating something good, then you just look stupid and are just jealous.

Not to be the hater, but I don't have a problem with simple levels getting rated. I have a problem with buggy and unoptimized pieces of trash that are poorly built, janky, have hz issues, gameplay that only works half the time, all for it to get rated 3 fewer stars than it should. As a stargrinder, I want rated levels to be based on decoration and gameplay. Just because a level is pretty doesn't mean it's rate worthy. Just a month ago I played an 7 star after it was rated and there was a LITERAL SECRET WAY within the first 20%. It's clear that unplaytested levels are being sent when if the mods just read the comments and saw over 50 people saying "secret way" they'd know something was up.

I went through this being a layout maker. It was something that affected me a lot because envy was literally surrounding me from all sides, even with the team I should trust. I suffered a lot of bullying and unpleasant comments just because of the style of layouts and the songs I chose. Even leaking my levels to higher creators and showing me what everyone thinks that my levels are trash without me asking about it. This messed with my head so much that I simply don't have any fun playing GD anymore. The only thing I really do now is watch.

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As an unnoticed creator I could understand that people don’t like low effort levels. Not everything that is high quality is high effort. As someone who can create realistic stuff i don’t put high effort inside of it unless im learning. So people don’t understand what is high effort or low effort for each creator. A average glow level does require effort. A average modern level doesn’t require much effort if you’re good with art and animations. But it’s hard and people put effort. I only been playing for 2 or 3 years and I understand what levels are considered low or high effort is for a creator on their own level. Compared to a player.

i remember one time when i posted a joke level, a hate comment appeard, the level was like a year old, and the player even blocked me lmao, i wasnt that offended, hell, i was laughing, then another hate commented showed up and also blocked me, strange it happened twice

The thing I don't understand I's when you have levels that's been sent multiple times and still doesn't get rated after like 5 sends or more. Ofc you are gonna get jealous when you see levels worse than yours that get rated after just 1 send :/

When my level got rated I got comments saying I should die in a fire or kms 😔 I deleted those comments cuz I really felt bad. And it really affected me on the way I touch the editor even tho I didn’t make anything wrong

if you want to say hate to other creators just think twice most of these creators are better then you. edit:im talking to the hate comments. just to clarify.

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Yo! Awesome video Ausk! Everything you touched on was very well explained. Hope more people start to change even if it's just a little. Keep up the great work!

Thank you so much for bringing this up. I see creators getting undeserved hate like this all the time and it makes me feel pretty awful for the creator. I really hope this can change at some point. I haven't seen such common negativity like this in comment sections in quite a while. While it still happens all the time, it's been extremely excessive in 2.2. It tends to ruin the experience of the game for me because the community just feels so much less happy than it used to.

Seeing these lazy levels honestly discourages making levels with effort,,, Like why make a great level with so much effort on a level when youre gonna get a feature just like split does with a minimal modern level?? Its just irrtitating

I got an epic rated level six months ago and spent over 100 hours building it. The top comment was thankfully a constructive criticism comment, but most of the other top comments were hate comments such as “Why do people make such bad gameplay.” Kinda unfortunate that people were only focusing on the unsightreadable gameplay rather than appreciating the level for my talent in art.

I agree with every point you made. I'm working on a level myself and I know damn well its not gonna be great, but I'm having my fun and trying my best. Great vid👍

The gd community is so childish man, literally half of my comments complimenting levels gets disliked by these kids that either dont like people with a lot of cp or simply are trash at the game, its so weird

thanks for making this video, it made me reflect on my behaviour in regarding gd level creation, i was being really hateful at levels not realizing how harsh i was actually being. i will no longer be hating on levels because they're "bad", instead i will either suggest some improvements or just not say anything and leave. i am also realizing that if something i make isnt of amazing quality then it stays in the drafts, which is reduces my enjoyment of creating. don't get wrong i still like creating and all, but often times i dont really like what im creating. those are issues i have to solve with myself, but thank you for making me reconsider. one issue i have is that at the intro you deadnamed bridget, and i think you should've re-recorded the intro, it wouldn't have taken that long i assume, right? i adknowledge that you put a text correcting yourself, but at that point why not rerecord? i'll give the benefit of the doubt and assume you couldn't rerecord because... well shit happens, lack of time or other things, however i would've still muted the audio where you deadnamed her. not acussing you of anything just wanted to point out how this could've been solved

As I do understand your point of view, it's also important to aknowlege that not all people who writes those types of comments are jealous. Sometimes, it's just the fact that level qualities are disintegrating, not only in deco, but also in terms of gameplay. Some levels are filled with untested parts and questionable gameplay, even transitions, that comments saying that it's bad are factually right. The way that it could be expressed may be rude depending on the comments, but not all of them are. It totally agree that creators are allowed to create what they want, but if a levels is low effort in terms of GP and deco and expect at least a rating, then they should expect those types of comments in which, a lot of them are being factual. Death threats or direct bullying, those are a big no and should be those types of comments that should be focused instead, but comments commenting on how bad the gameplay, deco, transitions, etc. shouldn't be deemed as people being jealous, envious, etc. If the creator really doesn't want those types of comments, then RobTop should add in a future update a way to enable/disable comments, similar to how a lot of media platforms have.

A couple of days ago, I wrote a comment on a new Extreme Demon that released saying that during practice, I found the gameplay unfun, repetitive and hard to read, yet the decoration was amazing and I got downvoted to hell. That might not be constructive criticism (not sure how that could become constructive), but people just don't seem to like opinions in this game, regardless of how nice you are being about it

tbh i dont think if those levels are "low effort" opening editor to create a level that can get star rate even is a lot of effort imo , maybe level style is low detailed but thats still a lot of effort to bulid something with similiar quality through out the entire level with i can see in all those star rated and featured levels

Really good points, I agree with what you talked about here :D I always like to leave a comment on things I enjoy, whether it's GD levels, music, videos I watched, etc., and whenever the person who made it is open for feedback, pointing out what I like while also tactfully stating what could be improved is how I'd approach it ^^

even with this video, it's hard to change peoples minds on stuff they don't agree on, or don't like, just like this topic. i agree with every point you made, but it doesn't change the fact that there are, and will always be toxic people.

one thing I wanna bring up in addition to the video is folks need to also have more *constructive* criticism for levels, maybe politely explaining certain flaws with the creator’s approach and how to fix/improve them, instead of blaming the creator for a rating that isn’t determined by them! just as important as making sure you aren’t jealous of other people’s success! nice video ausk

The people who don’t like cp grinding aren’t true creators themselves. Heck, people that just say “bad terrible delete this” and stuff like that, they’re DEFINITELY not true creators. True creators at least attempt to take 30 seconds to point out some flaws (or they don’t point out flaws for the sake of being nice), even if they don’t have time to come up with ideas.

been seeing this a lot lately, glad you made a video about it

I’ve been messaging some of these creators to saying something like this “hey people hate you for no reason I like your level good job” I like these levels they work for hours on their levels and as well they try something new. Don’t get why people have gotten so negative in these months.

Im working on a level called "Lucky bloom" Im working on a spider part and i dont know what to do for the air deco. Please reply by helping me

Finally someone says something about this. I really think this is the biggest issue overlooked in the community. Thank you, Ausk. GD should be fun and stress-free. Not another source of potential depression and hate. It’s a game, guys. Last I checked, it’s not about the rate. How would *you* like it if you swapped places with the person you’re hating on?

this is so true and I've felt this way for years but nobody ever seemed to recognize this huge problem until today, levels don't need to look or play amazing to mean someone spent their time to make something without anything in return except other peoples enjoyment, being negative and hateful can ultimately lead to demotivation. I'm not saying you have to like every level you play and there are some levels I'm not the biggest fan of but I don't spam people with hate over something they spent time on. when playing levels people seem to act like their words have no influence on people's opinions and I'm not saying we will ever be able to get rid of hate entirely but the amount of hate on some levels by people who creator point grind is dumb. This is also a huge problem in gauntlets despite not liking a level you don't have to act like it was the best level ever made just don't be a total jerk. another issue is lots of the time people look past the good things of a level and just focus on the bad things, comments should not be just hate ever and here's what I mean, when commenting at least say one good thing about a level so the creator doesn't feel too bad and also if you're gonna state something that should be improved describe why and be nice about it, what I mean is try to avoid saying things like "bad gameplay" or "boring decoration" instead say something like "Deco is very cool and the song choice is great, the gameplay is fun but felt unbalanced to me mostly at the ship parts, overall still a good level" so they don't feel bad on what they spent their hard work on and know what can be improved. a creator nobody talks about is ChaSe who gets a lot of hate for his gauntlet levels mainly the gameplay, I don't understand why people hate the gameplay but I always find the ChaSe levels to be really fun and just a pleasure to play, I'm not saying you have to agree with me however try to be nice to the poor guy who spends MONTHS on levels just to get an unreasonable amount of hate. you can address problems in comments while still saying what's good about the level and being nice instead of saying the creator sucks. overall I'm just tired of seeing all the hate of people being awful to other creators and this will never 100% stop but I'm hoping the hate towards creators becomes less as time passes. this is so long lol.

You have good points but personally I don't mind what the creators make I think its amazing that they enjoy making them my issue is normally that the standards for big creators seem to be dropped as amazing levels from unknown creators that robtop sees wont get rated but a level from yunhaseu14 would get rated although being of much lower quality. I just feel that a lot of people are frustrated by their hard work being put to higher standards. Not condoning the people just giving unwarranted hate or saying that the big creators don't deserve their levels rated I just think there is a disparity in the standards that frustrate smaller creators.

people should be allowed to create what they want but there is a certain extra level of responsibility that they should take if they are going to go for a rate and have the entire community play it, which a lot of people don't because sadly all they care about is the creator points

Honestly, I've had the same feeling of jealousy when playing levels, but I don't go out of my way to make hate comments just because they got rated. Just keep it inside and move on. Sometimes, I do have to make criticism, but I also make it constructive because I get it when I receive plain old hate comments. It sucks and it makes the creating process more longer than it should've been, maybe even stopping it all together. Constructive criticism is goated, underrated, and actually helpful for creators.

been waiting for such a vid for a long time. reading such harrassing comments on my levels somehow affected on my usual building process. only a few weeks ago things started to get better. sadly, the only thing creators can do is ingoring those kind of douchebags.

Ausk trying not to spit facts challenge (impossible)

It's enough to me when my NA level somehow got a difficult face

As a new creator, creating is sort of a mix of a hobby and a job. I set goals, which is job-like, but I won’t *force* myself to work. I mean, that’s partially since I can’t force myself to do much of anything if it’s so very time consuming, but you know. 2:15

I completely agree,im currently whiting a video on that topic and i aslo think we have a lot of elitism in the gd creative scene. Edit : and you should see a video by a guy named rootbeer on that topic named "yes is matter then a level gets rated"

This is truly a great video. I see these comments way too often, and I hope that this video opens the eyes of even just one of these commenters and they decide to stop and give these creators some love for spending hours on a hobby just for their enjoyment. Thank you, Ausk.

I highly recommend not reading comments at all because 90% of the hate comes from 10 year old kids who only makes wave challenge levels

Nobody Talking About 'How To Platformer Was AN INSANE DEMON WHEN ITS 5 HOURS LONG!!!!

Not to hate at all (we're all allowed to have our own respective opinions) for me personally I just don't like the fact these low effort levels get rated, it kinda puts smaller creators into a weird gap where they will most likely not get their stuff recognised for being not detailed enough, where these big creators (like split72) get their levels mass sent and most likely rated just because they're a known creator. From a gameplay standpoint I personally feel demotivated to play the game when I see less and less people put in effort to their work since it becomes a part of seeing a number go up (cp) instead of making something enjoyable for others. However at the end of the day people are allowed to make what they find fun, it's just my personal view on it.

I appreciate this video a lot. As someone who enjoys making more simple styled levels, I absolutely agree with you. Thank you for making this!

You're speaking of this like you forget that, contrarly than you, the age of the gd community still is very low. This type of comments is only made by 11 year olds seeking attention through trying to get buzz, whether its bad or good. This hate movement will go by waves, sometimes (like right now) very present, sometimes less, especially since very high quality levels are now published, but it will never stop (and i'd say will tend to increase).

This Video Makes A Very Good Point, Why Can’t People Just Let People Have Fun Building? P.S. I Know This Is Off Topic, But Does Anyone Know How To Make Objects Appear In The Background, I can’t find a tutorial for it

I agree, in my last level, which actually appears in the video for a few seconds lol, there are only negative and negative comments, like that it is the worst rated level of the week, that it is horrible, that its levels are better. ..etc. Then I see the levels of the people who comment that and they are pure challenges, so I get more encouraged despite the hate lol

It’s basically like saying “this level sucks” without seeing the level

Honestly, I think you couldn't have said it any better, this game has gotten so far because of the creating scene in this community, and I hate to see creators getting such hate for just pursuing a hobby they favor.

A mod straight up said "This level Sucks" on Calypso Blitz, and its one of the top comments.... I dont know if he was joking or not but thats not okay

I agree but look a simple example:Seven sectors created by a popular creator is featured and obuims 3 is also featured while the deco difference is big you get what i mean right

I think that people take to seriously getting a star rate, My personal goal was to make featured worthy levels that were creative and different and I think that I acomplished that in my first rated level, it was amazing. So if your goal is to get a star rated levels hating on others isn't going to make it happen

i do agree with everything except i dont quite agree with the point that "if youre unhappy for someones success, there is something with how youre thinking", since since (in my understanding) the term "unhappy" also includes the feeling of concern, which would be valid in the case of others health and safety being affected by that success. an example of that would be a food product that isnt approved by food regulations and could potentially cause harm to its consumer, but its getting popular on social media as an advertisement (that pink sauce incident). this issue as a whole is complicated and requires setting a precise definition of what is considered harmful

People often also hate on levels because of a few small things, even if they like most of the level. If you’re going to comment on a level, give some good feedback, not just hate. Shitting on levels for no reason is the dumbest trend in the comments lol

You explain this perfectly, it took me a while to find my style yet when I did, I realized that not a lot of people find it necessarily “good”…. But that doesn’t stop me because I really do like creating in this specific style, and I won’t let anything stop me! Good video man! :D

ausk making a comment about how in the past he wasn’t getting rated while scrolling past Hatapon in the featured tab…

this guy would be a great therapist

true (still waiting for the 2.2 guide :') )

I don't hate split or dubstep, but i absolutely suck compared to everyone basically, ive always wanted to get a rated level for 2 years only, but of course it has not happened, i can ne inspired amd try to build like them but how bad i am at creating i cant. Build anything like other people, i have friends that have Creator points and they have tried to motivate me, ive been thanking them but i have just not been having fun creating, when i open the editor i dont feel like doing anything at all, when i do feel motivated, im gonna build a level, but when i start building the level, i give up because it doesn't look goof at all, im this 🤏 close to quit creating forever because i suck at it and it would take me years to improve

It gets annoying when you see a level that's fun to play and the comments are just full of people complaining that the level is "lazy" because it doesn't have 100k objects or theres not a lot of moving objects or the style of the level is intentionally simpler or more minimalistic. Like yeah a high deco level can look really good if done right, but low deco levels are often still good as well, and lower deco can actually be better for the gameplay since too much deco can either be distracting or make it hard too see the gameplay. (It's also annoying how often times you see people complaining about a level because it's too hard for them and how you sometimes can have a comment be massed disliked because you said something positive about a level)

As a former Mobile player that switched to pc, I don’t understand the hate, it’s probably people who haven’t beaten the nightmare (im still trying to beat it…)

I can’t believe people think that if someone makes a simpler level and it gets rated, they’re a cp grinder

I always say to people like that "Just make it yourself If you didnt like what he make" Or "It like you can do any better". But some people always say to me "Your words are pointless" Defending them. Well they are not fully wrong, but what I meant is for them to know that something that looks easy is actually pretty difficult to make. If they can do it, it's because they already have an idea of ​​that level, different from when the creator created that level. I want people to respect other people's work.

As a person with 200+ hours in the editor with no rate, I feel this

what matters to me is gameplay im not good at creating but when i do create i try to make it as fun as i can cuz i like gameplay that feels good and fun to play i can deco (not that good tho)

Here's the thing too, it's not just level design or how low detailed a level is Often in my case as a star grinder there's levels made by well known creators who makes bad gameplay in some levels and most of the time it isn't playtested, not to mention it kinda ruins my experience at times grinding but I don't go in the comments and spread hate unless I have something good to say, regardless if you're a creator for years you know better than just overly decorate a level for a rate while it has bad gameplay or the layout wasn't thought through. I don't jealous anyone but I'm very bad at decorating and I'm very good at making well balanced and fun gameplay (also well playtested to find bugs or errors). That being said I would like to see creators improving on the gameplay aspect of creating levels

ok unrelated but like if i made nine circles i wouldve not been able to resist making 700 moving objects and having a "buttersmooth" design

I didnt get rated on my level but I don't really mind it since it's not a job

I'll admit it. I'm jealous of Lifecheck, but I'm still one of his biggest fans. In fact, I support all of his creations and we chat quite a bit on Discord. Edit: I'm a music creator, so I know where you're coming from.

also If you make simple levels and get rated cuz your popular isnt fair to the people who dont have creator points make simple level and dont get rated

I reently got my first rate and still had those comments even ith 1cp

I'm glad to say this video isn't targeted at me

10:07 Gamer 734 is a real person how dare you lol. Jokes aside very good video I hope it does speak to people who dont understand this game is a game and not a career

fun fact: people who criticize levels for being not good or it sucks probably cannot get 30% of the level.

whats the mod you use to preview levels?

Finally, someone acknowledging this issue properly. The creation community deserves so much more…

Comepletely unrelated but I like simple levels because it gives me hope that the CP ceiling is not too high and I could get a rate someday. Overall I actually like when people create simple levels. Not everythings a banger!

the new players be tryna start controversies since 2.2

Im not jealousy but i even dont have rated levels

To prevent that happening WE need to become better

Yes, the rating system is unfair and favorises creators who already have creator points. No, it is not the creators fault, it's that robtop can't play every level at once and the system needs a rework or at least more people to be able to rate levels