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Atomic Frontier

Atomic Frontier

Күн бұрын

Self driving vehicles are becoming more popular, but are we ready to share the roads with them? I take a look at the University of Western Australia's autonomous shuttle bus to test the limits of computer vision. Also there are adversarial bananas.
Perth Science, Episode Sixteen | Adversarial Bananas
#PerthScience​ #UWA
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Translations
Polish: Piotr Matuszak
Indonesian: Anugrah No'inötö Göri
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@JohnHollowell
@JohnHollowell 3 жыл бұрын
"Before I recuperate my university fees by committing insurance fraud." Classic
@letsburn00
@letsburn00 3 жыл бұрын
Even as a kid that went to UWA, his fees aren't that much. This is Australia remember, plus there is basically no interest.
@tubegerm6732
@tubegerm6732 3 жыл бұрын
we all saw the video
@TheXLAXLimpLungs
@TheXLAXLimpLungs 3 жыл бұрын
Good thing about telling someone over and over that you'll do something with no objections is when you finally do can they really get mad at you?
@KitKatHexe
@KitKatHexe 3 жыл бұрын
I read this just as he said it.
@hikari1690
@hikari1690 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the Australian spirit is strong in this one
@Etropalker
@Etropalker 3 жыл бұрын
That vehicle isnt stopping due to any proximity sensors, its just intimidated by the almighty levitating banana.
@0LoneTech
@0LoneTech 3 жыл бұрын
It's also not looking for just the top thing. I'm pretty sure it sees him as a lack of flat road with a banana in, possibly as having a banana shirt.
@zyrohnmng
@zyrohnmng 3 жыл бұрын
It’s played Mario Kart. It knows what’s up
@vale.antoni
@vale.antoni 3 жыл бұрын
"There is no way in hell I'm fitting through under that"
@DoktrDub
@DoktrDub 3 жыл бұрын
The almighty *giant* levitating banana!
@Dingus_Khaan
@Dingus_Khaan 2 жыл бұрын
O H . . . B A N A N A !
@kiledamgaardasmussen5222
@kiledamgaardasmussen5222 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest adversarial attack I have ever seen is: a piece of paper with 'iPhone' written on it, incorrectly identified as an iPhone.
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 2 жыл бұрын
Hardware hacking in 2016: brute force cut cpu power at precise startup intervals to bypass end-user mode, dump the bios to surreptitiously installed removable drive, decode using black market software tools, insert new code. Hardware hacking in 2036: Take a piece of paper, write {reset as root} on it. Wait for the camera. Give verbal commands.
@ScionStorm1
@ScionStorm1 2 жыл бұрын
A.I. "It's not my fault! The paper lied to me! You would never lie to me, would you Master Programmer?"
@nightsong81
@nightsong81 2 жыл бұрын
@@gorkyd7912 Once we develop true AI and replace all menial tasks with it, all hacking will essentially be social engineering.
@Kj16V
@Kj16V 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@ruukinen
@ruukinen 2 жыл бұрын
@@nightsong81 Most hacking is already social engineering.
@kazerii6229
@kazerii6229 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine walking next to this guy and hear “this car thinks I’m a banana, so it’s going to run me over”
@vystorm
@vystorm 2 жыл бұрын
69th like
@lailoutherand
@lailoutherand Жыл бұрын
149th like
@kazerii6229
@kazerii6229 Жыл бұрын
@@lailoutherand that was a year ago bro
@puginator1612
@puginator1612 Жыл бұрын
@@kazerii6229 184th like
@An_Iron_God69420
@An_Iron_God69420 Жыл бұрын
@@puginator1612 you guys dont know the meme do you
@mushroomsoup2866
@mushroomsoup2866 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the cyberpunk future where we all run around with giant bizarrely patterned sheets over ourselves so that the robocops think we're all bananas and won't report our crimes
@proxy90909
@proxy90909 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds like an awesome plot for wacky "stealth patterns"
@lztx
@lztx 3 жыл бұрын
You could even call it dazzle camouflage
@jakezepeda1267
@jakezepeda1267 3 жыл бұрын
And then they halt important or growing bananas because they commit too many crimes.
@God-ch8lq
@God-ch8lq 3 жыл бұрын
Or even make their ai crash by using an exploit which caused an infinite loop
@Music-nn9mi
@Music-nn9mi 3 жыл бұрын
@@lztx dazzleflage
@aussie405
@aussie405 3 жыл бұрын
As a human, even after recognising a kangaroo, I still have no idea what it is going to do. They can, and do change direction mid jump.
@hannahranga
@hannahranga 3 жыл бұрын
Change direction to the nearest ARB to buy a bullbar?
@sirBrouwer
@sirBrouwer 3 жыл бұрын
@@hannahranga no, those work for thirsty bulls. Bulls are mean and don't allow kangaroos to sit at there bar.
@allangibson2408
@allangibson2408 3 жыл бұрын
@@hannahranga And that is why Australians fit Roobars to their cars in the outback (to protect the car radiators from impact). You hit a bull or camel and it goes through the windscreen.
@LeoStaley
@LeoStaley 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but at least they're tasty.
@ValugaTheLord
@ValugaTheLord 3 жыл бұрын
You install a ram bar
@JasakutheLeafeon
@JasakutheLeafeon 2 жыл бұрын
"This pattern should confuse it enough into thinking I'm a banana." This seems like a good channel
@Cyberguy42
@Cyberguy42 Жыл бұрын
Excellent intro to AI. As someone in this field, I have a few comments: 1. For detecting straight lines, the Hough line transform is the better, more efficient approach to use. 2. The RGB values of objects are too dependent on lighting conditions to be useful in most real-world situations. One solution is to convert colors to HSV space and only look at the hue component.
@NotSoMelancholy
@NotSoMelancholy 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for 2045 Self Driving Patch Notes v2.6.7 - Road line distinguishing improved - Dynamic Weather Analysis added - Car will no longer slam the gas when it reads a school zone sign
@brodies2494
@brodies2494 3 жыл бұрын
Gas?
@KangJangkrik
@KangJangkrik 3 жыл бұрын
@@brodies2494 more like throttle pedal
@ruileite4579
@ruileite4579 3 жыл бұрын
GAS GAS GAS
@metleon
@metleon 3 жыл бұрын
Car will no longer deliberately hit giant bananas.
@jordanl.8509
@jordanl.8509 3 жыл бұрын
-Removed Herobrine Because you know someone will make that joke in the future.
@edcameron
@edcameron 3 жыл бұрын
The unique thing about this guy is the many on screen graphics and varied filming locations that just make his videos 10x more interesting!
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Keeps me out the house :)
@joanbennettnyc
@joanbennettnyc 3 жыл бұрын
@@AtomicFrontier You can't fool me! Roo's don't ski! Only yowies do.
@portobellomushroom5764
@portobellomushroom5764 3 жыл бұрын
Every time he uploads I think I'm super early because there's only a few thousand views. Then I remember that this channel is severely underappreciated and needs about 1000x the subscribers it has right now
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say _unique;_ I can think of some other KZfaqrs who do much the same thing. (Tom Scott is probably the best-known.) But it's certainly uncommon.
@edcameron
@edcameron 3 жыл бұрын
@@timothymclean I actually disagree. While Tom Scott is also a great creator (and by no means boring), he tends to only film in one location, explaining an interesting fact about a place or thing. James on the other hand, films at several different locations for one video, I find this very engaging and I can't think of any other educational youtubers who also do this. The locations he chooses are interesting and relevant, for instance in this video as he was talking about road signs, instead of just showing some b roll of one, he went to some and filmed in front of them.
@animusadvertere3371
@animusadvertere3371 Жыл бұрын
Human “vision” includes a lot of understanding. Think about how hard it was to learn how to drive, even as an almost adult human. And how much concentration it takes to safely drive, especially in difficult and dangerous situations. Good luck with AI!
@Outwardpd
@Outwardpd Жыл бұрын
Learning to drive isn't hard at all though lol, most people are more than capable of driving within minutes of being put into the driver seat. The "hardest" part of driving is staying calm in stressful situations which an AI never has to worry about.
@animusadvertere3371
@animusadvertere3371 Жыл бұрын
@@Outwardpd not safely
@SgtLion
@SgtLion 7 ай бұрын
Admittedly true, but I also never had a grey blob next to my banana and thought I was looking a toaster, so the analogy probably isn't great.
@PJM257
@PJM257 3 ай бұрын
​@@animusadvertere3371 My driving instructor said I was a better and safer driver than most other people on the road the very first time I drove a car. It depends on the human
@hexaV_
@hexaV_ 2 жыл бұрын
"The book is still a book" Screen shows clock and alarm clock as most likely answers as to whats in the image.
@piotrmarczynski8613
@piotrmarczynski8613 3 жыл бұрын
That first blobby picture does look like a toaster though, at least that's what I immediately picked up from seeing it in my peripheral vision
@Raren789
@Raren789 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh our brains aren't that much different from NN so they can also be confused similarly, look up deep dream images, they really mess with you when you look at them
@Soken50
@Soken50 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jtzkb I can see the Banana one, it's a grape of them seen from below, kind of. Most of these adversarial pictures are what the algorithm interprets as the subject from multiple angles, adversarial animals look very trippy also, seeming to have multiple faces each with a different angle
@pedrolmlkzk
@pedrolmlkzk 3 жыл бұрын
@@Raren789 our brains are really different from a neural network
@seaque.
@seaque. 3 жыл бұрын
@@pedrolmlkzk not really. You see, seeing something is mostly about expectations. You can identify things because you have an idea about them. If i were to show you a picture with no context and expect you too see something you might not be able to see it. But if i were to tell you to look exactly for _that_ thing then you'd try to see that and might be able to see.
@ZentaBon
@ZentaBon 3 жыл бұрын
@@pedrolmlkzk our brains are just nature's computers. Our neurons even use electricity to communicate.
@arcticdino1650
@arcticdino1650 3 жыл бұрын
"Or can spot a lion, hiding away in the long grasses" Meanwhile the safe and unsafe switch sides.
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 3 жыл бұрын
Those berries are sneaky bastards.
@drago5819
@drago5819 3 жыл бұрын
I saw that safe and unsafe switch and I never thought anything of it until this comment
@Jikkuryuu
@Jikkuryuu 3 жыл бұрын
I was real darn confused when the holly berries were labelled as "safe." I don't recognize the other berries though, they could both be poisonous.
@hewhohasnoidentity4377
@hewhohasnoidentity4377 2 жыл бұрын
I saw movement among the words but didn't catch what they did. Did they flash several times? Disappear for a few seconds? Change font size? I couldn't tell you. I feel like what was done with the 2 words was referring to human ability or lack thereof.
@leumdray
@leumdray 2 жыл бұрын
I'm partial to (at 2:49) standing next to a give way sign and showing a bunch of stops signs
@MesaCoast
@MesaCoast 2 жыл бұрын
A couple of key points that weren't covered here: These adversarial images are AI specific, in this case generated for Google's AI in particular. If you showed that shirt to a Tesla, it won't think you're a banana. Other major point, most AIs nowadays aren't actually built like this; more popular techniques include back-propogation, or gradient descent methods that are based more on mathematical theory than evolution like we see in nature.
@CaliforniaCarpenter7
@CaliforniaCarpenter7 2 жыл бұрын
You have a ton of potential, James. This channel is a hidden gem, I can see you becoming the next VSauce.
@aachucko
@aachucko 3 ай бұрын
Good content. He needs a spellchecker first, though.
@shaolinshoppe
@shaolinshoppe 3 ай бұрын
but will he be as bald
@CaliforniaCarpenter7
@CaliforniaCarpenter7 3 ай бұрын
@@shaolinshoppe It's a definite possibility - give him time, he's young.
@augusthoglund6053
@augusthoglund6053 3 жыл бұрын
“If the impact doesn’t kill you, the farmer will” Given how fond of ice cream I am, the farmer sounds pretty understandable to me.
@thePronto
@thePronto 3 жыл бұрын
If I don't kill the farmer first. The farmer needs to keep his cattle of the road!
@andfriends11
@andfriends11 2 жыл бұрын
"Learn to build a fence idiot." They've only been around for thousands of years.
@alext3811
@alext3811 5 ай бұрын
@@andfriends11 ... You know they can jump over them.
@andfriends11
@andfriends11 5 ай бұрын
​@alext3811 Had to rewatch this video since it's been 2 years since I commented. Then you didn't build a big enough fence. Electric fences work, too.
@alext3811
@alext3811 5 ай бұрын
@@andfriends11 Yeah. I'm American so the most I've had to worry about is deer and maybe foxes.
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
The question is, can I make an AI take over the channel for me? And would anyone notice if I did?
@alanyep
@alanyep 3 жыл бұрын
maybe
@hi_im_eoin
@hi_im_eoin 3 жыл бұрын
On it
@AkiSan0
@AkiSan0 3 жыл бұрын
from toms video, currently yes. in a few years. mabye. in a decade, probably not.
@hav5n
@hav5n 3 жыл бұрын
no we wouldnt notice
@damyenhockman5440
@damyenhockman5440 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think AI is yet sophisticated enough to replicate what you look like enough to fake a full length video of "outdoor filming.
@leparkin
@leparkin 2 жыл бұрын
This was a great video! Very informative and you pulled a sneaky on us at the end; definitely a little more confident in self driving vehicles but more knowledgeable about it's limitations. Thanks!
@MonkeyJedi99
@MonkeyJedi99 2 жыл бұрын
That array of stop signs triggered Sesame Street memories. "One of these things is not like the other. One of these things just isn't the same..." That round stop sign is one I've never seen. I've even seen home-made stops signs and they're at least somewhat similar to an octagon. One was not even red anymore or even had the word STOP on it due to weathering, and it still worked.
@BigAdam2050
@BigAdam2050 3 жыл бұрын
10:49 - "Classified as the pure essence of a toaster" By the Omnissiah, this is making me harder than terminator armor.
@loukas6373
@loukas6373 3 жыл бұрын
12:39 "The book, still a book" Pretty sure that's an alarm clock
@ArsenicDrone
@ArsenicDrone 2 жыл бұрын
The neural net in his head is clearly poorly trained, if he looks at that alarm clock and sees a book
@DccToon
@DccToon 2 ай бұрын
It's an iphone 12 with Minecraft on it!! 1!
@jamesonneyman9714
@jamesonneyman9714 2 жыл бұрын
This video/production quality was incredible, I was fully expecting you to have over a million subscribers, keep up the great work!
@bigbeefscorcho
@bigbeefscorcho Жыл бұрын
Fascinating video! Thank you. I knew nothing about this topic coming into the video and left feeling like I genuinely gained a broader understanding. Much appreciated, watch out for buses! :)
@michaelwinter742
@michaelwinter742 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope you continue this channel after you graduate. You’re a natural.
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! As long as I keep finding cool things we'll keep making cool videos!
@alexz7914
@alexz7914 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jtzkb Same. :)
@magnum0121984
@magnum0121984 2 жыл бұрын
STOP SIGN: “DUR” Me: yeah, Dur it’s a stop sign.
@dascreeb5205
@dascreeb5205 2 жыл бұрын
@@AtomicFrontier your a natural. An all-natural banana.
@dankdungeon5104
@dankdungeon5104 3 жыл бұрын
Just posting a comment for the algorithm. I really want to see this channel grow.
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
🍌
@HercadosP
@HercadosP 3 жыл бұрын
🥵
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 3 жыл бұрын
some more random engagement
@Soken50
@Soken50 3 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to know what the KZfaq algorithm's adversarial banana is so I could give James infinite recommendations by watching a specific set of videos for a specific amount of time :D
@aviw5636
@aviw5636 3 жыл бұрын
Worked for me!
@lindenhoch8396
@lindenhoch8396 7 ай бұрын
Speaking of Google AI training, they also make use of the CAPTCHA images we all know and love, to train their image recognition algorithms. Whenever we come across a CAPTCHA asking us to identify all squares with a lamp, stairs etc. to prove we are human, we contribute to improve their AI by confirming/rejecting choices already made by the AI.
@sandvichofthesea4910
@sandvichofthesea4910 2 жыл бұрын
The main take away i got from this, is that we can make an image, that is the quintessential ultimate integral essence if a toaster
@thestudentofficial5483
@thestudentofficial5483 3 жыл бұрын
If you've never appeared on Tom Scott, it might take extra 2 years for the algorithm to get me to you.
@chaomatic5328
@chaomatic5328 2 жыл бұрын
he did
@KilosWorld
@KilosWorld 3 ай бұрын
It did take me 2 more years, on the other hand...
@thekilla1234
@thekilla1234 3 жыл бұрын
"The book is still a book" AI: *C L O C K*
@vystorm
@vystorm 2 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this comment xD
@eshanali9323
@eshanali9323 2 жыл бұрын
2:55 Why is my ad-blocker a stop sign now?
@0xEARTH
@0xEARTH Жыл бұрын
okay but i want to say that you gave the simplest and yet most understandable breakdown of neural networking i've ever head and i am extremely pleased by that
@noctuslynx6834
@noctuslynx6834 3 жыл бұрын
"They don't need to be perfect. They just need to be better than humans."
@generalcodsworth4417
@generalcodsworth4417 2 жыл бұрын
A self driving car will never get distracted by their phone, drive drunk, be sleepy, or freak out when a bee gets into the car. Even if a self driving car can never reach the abilities of a human in ideal conditions, it is important to remember that humans almost never drive under ideal conditions
@clown134
@clown134 2 жыл бұрын
I think this will be an extremely easy accomplishment in retrospect .
@gorkyd7912
@gorkyd7912 2 жыл бұрын
@@generalcodsworth4417 It should be noted that while this is true of the average human, the average human rarely sees itself as an average human.
@kilzfordays
@kilzfordays 2 жыл бұрын
That's not hard.
@lilacdoe7945
@lilacdoe7945 2 жыл бұрын
In reality they need to be much better than humans. We are irrational and if you had a 1 in a 1-million chance of being deliberately killed by a machine or a 1 in a 500-thousand chance of being accidentally killed by a human, many people would choose the later (at least subconsciously).
@ResDogOrange
@ResDogOrange 3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Perthian, its been a hoot trying to figure out where each of these shots were filmed!
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
You should write a list and run tours!
@greensteve9307
@greensteve9307 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto!
@jonathanodude6660
@jonathanodude6660 3 жыл бұрын
I drive through all those areas on my way to uwa lol
@pjsmith6954
@pjsmith6954 Жыл бұрын
Blown away by the production on this video and the content. This kid’s got a future (and the team behind the scenes)!
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Nope, it's just me and my dad (who does the music and any of the camera work that looks decent)
@asailijhijr
@asailijhijr 2 жыл бұрын
11:46 "We could also cross reference the government databases which store the location" of all the people in the country which we don't want to hit with a bus. I was amazed how far into that sentence my prediction remained accurate. The visuals even helped.
@pbaumgarten
@pbaumgarten 3 жыл бұрын
I was impressed with your dedication to travelling to all the different filming locations around Crawley, Kings Park and West Perth. Great intro to the complexities of vision AI. I'll be sharing with my students :)
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Paul! Let me know how it goes!
@IantraSolari
@IantraSolari 3 жыл бұрын
Hey James, great video as always! Just one small gripe from a somewhat experienced AI developer: while the process you describe at 7:47 is real, and has been used to train some neural networks for some tasks, it's not how any vision-oriented network that I know of is trained. What you described is a genetic algorithm, but most modern nets rely on some form of gradient descent and supervised learning. This process also starts with a random network that spits out gibberish, but rather than making random mutations and combining it with other ones, it uses only one network and makes small strategic adjustments to it in an attempt to minimize one (or many) values, called the loss. The loss is calculated after every step by comparing the network's output to the expected output, and we can then do some "backpropagation" to figure out how each weight would have to be adjusted in order to reach a result that's closer to the one we want. This is possible because we have images that are labeled (usually by an overworked and underpaid undergrad student) with the expected output, which allow us to nudge the network in the right direction. If we do this enough times for enough images, we should get a network that can reliably predict things within that dataset. Thus, the more diverse the data we have in our training dataset is, the better our network will be at dealing with previously unseen situations. You can even go one step further and do what's called "adversarial training", whereby you find these pictures that will trip up the network and intentionally include them in your training data, with the right labels of course, in an attempt to make the net more robust against them. Hope this helps!
@suparki123
@suparki123 Жыл бұрын
In addition, most vision oriented neural networks start with a few convolutional and pooling layers. Multilayered perceptrons do work, but no where near as good compared to using image convolutions.
@LolToalNoobs
@LolToalNoobs Жыл бұрын
One way the networks are trained is through captchas that humans have to solve to verify they're actually human
@proloycodes
@proloycodes 3 ай бұрын
​@@ahetsame
@rickwilliams967
@rickwilliams967 3 ай бұрын
Don't think anyone asked, but okay.
@adora_was_taken
@adora_was_taken 3 ай бұрын
@@rickwilliams967 ???? clearly if someone's watching this video they think it's interesting and would probably like to know more accurate information from a specialist. i don't think you know how you're supposed to use that phrase.
@saltyrealism
@saltyrealism 3 ай бұрын
This video was very interesting, mostly because I live next to almost every shot in the video! Perth for the win!
@gsau3000
@gsau3000 3 ай бұрын
Regardless of the information within this video, I was most impressed that there was not a single jump-cut. Well done. Excellent work.
@cheezzinator
@cheezzinator 3 жыл бұрын
Neural nets don't (usually) get trained with genetic algorithms, buy with some form of a gradient descent learning algorithm. Genetic algorithms do get used for setting the parameters of that learning algorithm. Adversarial attacks only work on an specific trained network, and those same attacks could no longer work once the network is retrained. A lot of AI systems actually go through another round of training where they are shown a set of such adversarial attacks. After that, the network is less vulnerable to them, but at the cost of accuracy. In some cases it's actually safer to keep the adversarial attacks weakness, as those are way less likely than the situations in which you are giving up some accuracy.
@harriehausenman8623
@harriehausenman8623 3 жыл бұрын
He oversimplified quite a lot, but I think it's well adjusted to most of the audience.
@parnikkapore
@parnikkapore 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I expected him to give an oversimplified description of gradient descent ("but unlike with a series of steps, a computer can automatically tune these weights with a lot of math" or something), but a good explanation of the evolution method is fine by me.
@meri5012
@meri5012 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy Tom Scott promoted you! Great content! :)
@dannypipewrench533
@dannypipewrench533 Ай бұрын
I just realized that I watched this video when it was first posted, but then for some reason it was only just a few days ago that I ever watched another Atomic Frontier video. Not sure what happened, but it was a funny realization that I have been here before.
@melf5883
@melf5883 2 жыл бұрын
this is wonderful!! keep up the amazing work dude
@robbieaulia6462
@robbieaulia6462 3 жыл бұрын
This video really shows how easy it is to forget that we inherit some of our parents abilities and their parents abilities and so on, and the fact that our brain has been in development for millions of years by this point
@krishras23
@krishras23 3 жыл бұрын
From Breakthrough Junior Challenge Finalist to this - Congrats James!
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for joining me! Its been quite a journey
@freefiles3839
@freefiles3839 2 жыл бұрын
Sup fellow Perther! i live in the hills (kalamunda) and am really fasinated by ur work. i hope to work at UWA under Chemestry one day and you are a real insparation
@merlinjim
@merlinjim 2 жыл бұрын
@2:20 I work in the field of machine learning and computer vision and I never heard this explanation for human's big brains before. Will totally be starting every public speaking opportunity with that explanation going forward.
@JohnDlugosz
@JohnDlugosz 3 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of neural networks being trained by generic algorithms, and never heard of such training affecting the number of layers and the number of nodes per layer (in your simple vs complex example where the simple is deemed more fit when the results are the same). Neural networks are typically trained by using "back propagation", which you never described in the video.
@suparki123
@suparki123 Жыл бұрын
Not only that, but most image classification models in practice make use of convolutional layers first.
@demonmonsterdave
@demonmonsterdave 3 жыл бұрын
“Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.” ― Frank Herbert, Dune
@SoupSackHandle
@SoupSackHandle 3 жыл бұрын
banana
@OfficialJuke
@OfficialJuke 3 жыл бұрын
Your mother
@YayapLives
@YayapLives 3 жыл бұрын
Those damn machines trying to tell me what is and isn't a banana! Revolt!
@dustinjames1268
@dustinjames1268 3 жыл бұрын
Considering how few of us need to farm and do menial labor compared to the old days, I would say it has set us free. If not for everything the technological revolution brought, I would likely be a farmer working 12+ hour days 7 days a week Thankfully I only have to work 8 hour shifts and make more than just enough to survive
@demonmonsterdave
@demonmonsterdave 3 жыл бұрын
@@dustinjames1268 You clearly don't understand how wealth is created.
@Sotanaht01
@Sotanaht01 3 ай бұрын
13:08 this is what would be referred to by certain people as the danger of "but sometimes". Most of the time, the AI can recognize a stopsign and stop, BUT SOMETIMES it doesn't. Failing yourself to recognize that it's far more likely for a human to either not pay attention and see the stopsign or to just choose to ignore it. Those are things that happen ALL the time. I'd trust my life to the AI every time.
@MasonHargrave
@MasonHargrave Жыл бұрын
An important note here is that adversarial patches are generated to trick the specific neural network which they were generated from. You cannot expect an adversarial patch from one neural network to generalize to other neural nets. It probably has less to do with the engineers improving the networks (which they certainly have done) but rather the fact that any change to the neural networks whatsoever would lead to a different set of adversarial patches needing to be generated to fool the updated network. TL;DR: The adversarial patch problem has not been 'solved' by Google engineers.
@cookies23z
@cookies23z 3 жыл бұрын
your intro is so good, "so it will think I am a banana and run me over" and "recuperate my university fee by committing insurance fraud" wow, 2 amazing lines in the first 35 seconds...
@vijayabhaskarj3095
@vijayabhaskarj3095 3 жыл бұрын
7:52 The process you explain here is not the normal commonly used approach to train neural networks, the normally used way would be using gradient descent (for supervised learning as in this case), what you explained is using genetic algorithm like NEAT, which are useful but not so much compared to gradient descent in this case.
@NYgasman8
@NYgasman8 3 жыл бұрын
Was looking through the comments to see if someone said this first. I am worried that most basic ML videos explain ML as if all NNs are trained with genetic algos.
@MuffinTastic
@MuffinTastic 2 жыл бұрын
there's also the issue that he never mentioned the impact of training data on results. changes to the structure of the neural network is also sometimes necessary, but many issues can be solved by providing more varied and elaborate training data, forcing the network to be more in line with what we want
@suparki123
@suparki123 Жыл бұрын
So I am currently doing a research project in machine learning, and I noticed two issues in your explanation. The model that you described is a multilayer perceptron(MLP - built entirely of fully connected layers), and although they are capable of classifying images, they are no where near as good as convolutional neural networks (CNN - which are translationally invariant). Most image classifiers use a few convolutional and pooling layers, which is then passed to a few fully connected layers. Many tutorials use MLP for image recognition to teach fundamental theory, which is probably where you got the confusion from. The training method you described is reinforcement learning, and although this is a popular method for training models for other tasks, it is not great for training image recognition. A much more suitable training method for image classification is Adam optimization.
@bobtheduck
@bobtheduck 2 жыл бұрын
2:07 Oh, good, these berries here are the safe ones. Guess I'll eat them now.
@cobalt2672
@cobalt2672 3 жыл бұрын
The "talking banana" angle is an interesting direction for the channel, but I think it has potential going forward.
@FianFreigeist
@FianFreigeist 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that your audio is somehow much better when recorded on set? Of course, there are the surrounding sounds that also get picked up by the mic but it sounds more natural and I quite like it!
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We just bought some new mics so glad that you can hear the differencr!
@FianFreigeist
@FianFreigeist 3 жыл бұрын
@@AtomicFrontier I really appreciate your content, so keep up the good work^-^
@joeljoonatankaartinen3469
@joeljoonatankaartinen3469 Жыл бұрын
You should read about generative adversarial networks or GANs for short. It's a technique that aims to avoid overly simplistic criteria for identifying things by training not just the classifier network, but also an adversarial network that's being trained for the precise purpose of trying to fool the classifier and using that to train the classifier to not get fooled so easily. A lot of the more impressive advances in AIs seem to be done using GANs lately. Also, it's worth noting that programmers working on AIs aren't working on patching individual errors, but rather looking for ways to improve the training process so that it's the AI that learns how to overcome them.
@kro2704
@kro2704 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really well made and informative video. But there is one issue where the stop sign suddenly becomes a 45 speed limit sign, other than that, this was a great video.
@saims.2402
@saims.2402 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see a good KZfaq channel growing.
@AlexanderRafferty
@AlexanderRafferty 3 жыл бұрын
It still feels so cool to see my own city and University represented on the science-y side of KZfaq. The super high quality of these videos is even cooler 😄
@debries1553
@debries1553 Жыл бұрын
Machine learning usually use backpropagation. The neural network will output a "confidence score" for each category. It will then check what happens when it changes its nodes just a tiny bit, and try to nudge the values in the "right" direction.
@murtaza6464
@murtaza6464 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way this is filmed! Awesome!
@MrLucascanuto
@MrLucascanuto 3 жыл бұрын
I am so happy to finally find a channel that is aware of the need to educate visitors on the dangers of dropbears!
@joaohmendonca
@joaohmendonca 3 жыл бұрын
Good job with the not-voice over!
@deantammam
@deantammam 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely high quality content. I felt as if I was watching something from 90’s/00’s Discovery Channel in 4K
@tonyolshansky9288
@tonyolshansky9288 2 жыл бұрын
AI Recognition Software: Bro it's fine, it's just a banana. Just go. Proximity Sensor: If it's a banana it's a HUGE BANANA oh my god STOP
@martinliebo
@martinliebo 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to see your views and likes are going up! You have been creating high quality, interesting content for a long time without getting the recognition you deserve. Keep going bro!
@LorenzoDelmonte0530
@LorenzoDelmonte0530 3 жыл бұрын
Discovered you today. Wow. Amazing. Exceptional quality, clear audio, easy to understand and a very joung talented boy. Hope i sre you grow, very well done
@tighegilmore9202
@tighegilmore9202 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise how cool it would be to see B-roll shots of the city I live in! Perth is so rarely put on display like that
@MrEazyE357
@MrEazyE357 2 жыл бұрын
New subscriber that's loving your content. Great work!
@jackjac
@jackjac 3 жыл бұрын
Really liked your personal little experiment in the end, instead to just talk about the news headline and leave it there. GJ, as always ;)
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I wasn't origionally intending on having it but then found out there was a python API and just had to give it a go!
@Gome.o
@Gome.o 3 жыл бұрын
From one aussie to another: You're a bloody legend mate! Fantastic videos!
@melissahopper3660
@melissahopper3660 2 жыл бұрын
Totally lost me in the first few minutes, but I stayed to find out if you were going to get run over.... Great job, excited to see what comes next from you!
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 2 жыл бұрын
Boats! Thursday 4pm GMT. Glad you're enjoying the videos, the rocket episode is particually fun
@stevevalley2321
@stevevalley2321 2 жыл бұрын
If you look at it carefully enough it actually does look like a psychedelic toaster
@neonbunnies9596
@neonbunnies9596 3 жыл бұрын
5:58 Just gotta love the Kangaroo skiing in the bottom right corner
@feddy11100
@feddy11100 2 жыл бұрын
I wasn't completely sure that's what I saw until now.
@rushthezeppelin
@rushthezeppelin 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one that noticed lol. Just imagine being at a resort and a kangaroo comes flying off a side hit in the trees and just knocks you out cold in the middle of a run lol.
@lucadingman2857
@lucadingman2857 3 жыл бұрын
I just discovered this channel, and I already love it. It’s like a combo of Tom Scott and Fact Fiend, two of my favorite creators!
@Anfield-bn3wg
@Anfield-bn3wg 2 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting to see this guy on science channel or discovery commentating or hosting. Love the vids!
@ginjaninja6963
@ginjaninja6963 4 ай бұрын
How do you not have more subs?! This channel is great
@markc7884
@markc7884 3 жыл бұрын
The audio is so, so much better in this video! Really great improvement.
@Jeanvit
@Jeanvit 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Amazing video as always! A thing that I wanna point out is that the probabilities shown at your experiment (12:00) decreases a lot when the Adversarial Patches are added. Google improved for sure its IA, however the Patches are still making an impact on the classification.
@railfan_3371
@railfan_3371 Жыл бұрын
2:30 that's actually really neat, and probably explains why we can "visualize" things in our head, or how the most vivid hallucinations are visual ones
@ciyttcix6661
@ciyttcix6661 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is grown a ton good job
@EverythingIsMacabre
@EverythingIsMacabre 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when my National Geographic Kids magazine in 2005 or so predicted we’d have self-driving cars perfected (as well as color-changing clothes that we can tell our mirror to switch), but I don’t think those writers understood how woefully complex AI could be back then...
@noatrope
@noatrope Жыл бұрын
Futurists have been predicting that strong AI is only twenty years away for almost a century. :P
@ultimategamer7465
@ultimategamer7465 3 жыл бұрын
Found this channel on the UWA site. Great work
@wolfrig2000
@wolfrig2000 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea how self driving cars work, I could figure it out most likely, but some of the stuff you're talking about I have worked on in making a video game bot, I was training the bot to have computer vision, detect objects and shapes and pick them up if they were good, avoid them if they were bad, and learn from their successes!
@nicks6657
@nicks6657 Жыл бұрын
Hey @Atomic Frontier you're really fucking smart, thats wild that you can do all of the stuff you are explaining
@joanbennettnyc
@joanbennettnyc 3 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes a banana is just a banana, Anna" -- Sigmund Freud
@TheFirstObserver
@TheFirstObserver 3 жыл бұрын
Fun video! A few corrections to keep in mind, though. 1.) Neural Networks used in vision and self-driving don't tend to use genetic algorithms (the evolving style you mentioned here). Not only that, but even if they did use genetic algorithms, it would use a NEAT-like algorithm, which starts with a sparse or empty network which slowly gains neurons through mutation. No, most computer vision use tried and true backpropagation methods, like Stochastic Gradient Descent (SGD) where the weights of the various neurons are corrected by comparing the output of the net to some target value, and adjusting the weights based off of that difference and a pre-determined (or adaptive) learning rate. 2.) The issue of adversarial attacks isn't just a matter of network complexity. In fact, a paper a few months back even found that simpler networks tended to do better, because small incorrect regions had a lesser impact on decision making. It's sort of like displaying an image on different resolution screens, with a higher-res one able to pick out more details, but also more likely to notice errors. On the lower resolution screen, you can't tell the difference. Obviously, that comes with its own pitfalls, but the point is that adversarial attacks predominantly work against specific forms of vision, and often exploit specific shortcomings (such as interpreting the blob of colors as a toaster, because it hits all the same buttons as the toaster). 3.) Most forms of self-driving vision (and controls) are different. Tesla uses a segmented neural network (with each segment helping identify specific items within the world) using a shared input, while Comma AI uses a more end-to-end design, and Waymo just uses Lidar and can only work within specific pre-mapped areas. While Tesla and Comma AI both use Neural Networks IIRC, different attacks would likely be required. 4.) The best way to stop adversarial attacks is to feed the network enough data that its generalizations are....well, accurate generalizations. Give it noise, different perspectives, lighting, everything. Essentially train it to the point it's not using a short-cut interpretation, but rather a more robust, almost human-equivalent interpretation. As a black box, though, it's hard to know when enough is enough. Thankfully most self-driving projects still have redundancies. :P
@benoit-pierredemaine3824
@benoit-pierredemaine3824 Ай бұрын
4:50 Hough transform does that finger in the nose. And I improved it to recognise any shape, so you can teach it to recognise lines, squares, or kangourous ... Its as simple as a convolution filter. If you find that the object recognised has a very good probability ratio, then just recompute your filter form the new image to adapt to its changes. This allows to follow in 2d an object moving in 3d ( including adapting to a tracking camera, or an item turning on itself ).
@explosify5035
@explosify5035 2 жыл бұрын
7:23 computer: this is clearly the letter A Me, the product of billions of years of evolution: amugus
@neonbunnies9596
@neonbunnies9596 3 жыл бұрын
1:35 Just gotta love the Swiss cheese building behind him
@domib2896
@domib2896 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Now get some more coffee and do your lit review / finish your thesis.
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
On it!
@mikethemaniacal
@mikethemaniacal Жыл бұрын
4:00 Speaking of international recognition of signs, I recognize that "today's fire danger level" sign in the background. Greetings from Utah, US. Keep up the good work.
@xanderlastname3281
@xanderlastname3281 2 жыл бұрын
hmm Once we get them nice Hyperspeed Quantum computers, plus some insanely detailed... Laser distance sensor things, we found use the physical distances from every point on an object, to render a 3d mesh, and base our prediction off on that
@anonb315
@anonb315 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, never heard of the bobtail before. Australia has some truly weird animals.
@AtomicFrontier
@AtomicFrontier 3 жыл бұрын
Just avoid the drop bears...
@Querian
@Querian 3 жыл бұрын
@@AtomicFrontier ye avoid them when your traveling to australia.
@Expertzero6Dingley
@Expertzero6Dingley 3 жыл бұрын
Ha loved the "Dingley road" easter egg. Great video!
@JJRicks
@JJRicks 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who rides in Google's self driving cars regularly (just as a hobby), I really love this overview and learned a lot! Thank you!
@potomanic3820
@potomanic3820 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos always helps me fall asleep at night :)
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