Mine broke too. I am going with the SOG PowerPint and ditching my Leatherman PS. My Leatherman Signal is good.

'Umm..... It's not a broken spring! It's the new Leatherman toothpick!' ~ A future Leatherman spokesperson

Thanks for keeping it real with us!

agree. I have the same problem. The spring broke when I didn't use the scissors.

I've had numerous Style PS and PS4s over the years and I think the longest that a scissors spring lasted was about 6 months of infrequent use. I still like and carry them with the broken spring because most of my scissors use can be accomplished without a spring. But yeah it is frustrating as hell that a large manufacturer hasn't been able to fix this problem in well over a decade. Never knew about the bit adapter for the Style, very cool, thanks.

I gave up on the scissors, took the knife out of an old CS and put it in my PS. More times than not lately, I find myself reaching for my Gerber dime, working in a retail environment it’s nice to have a knife and albeit not the best but functional scissors and an amazing package opener ( I use it every single day!)

Yep, had the same thing happen to mine... Really disappointed in Leatherman for not fixing this issue for years now.

Totally agree with you. I had the same thing happen to the spring on my Gerber Dime scissors. It was surprisingly the most used tool I used on the Dime. I don't trust anything with the bar style springs anymore, and it's one reason I switched to using a Victorinox Manager (similar to your Jetsetter).

You are absolutely right and thank you for your feedback regarding the PS Style…

Same, mine broke after two weeks. Replaced it with a Victorinox Manager (RIP) as I didn't use the pliers often.

It is the poor heat treatment and when closed there is some pressure applied to the spring causing it to break. At this point, it comes down to poor quality control and or the lack of doing anything about it. Great points👍! Kudos from NYC🗽.

Ha! The same thing happened on my style. Sitting in a desk drawer right now.

Anyone else half-way expect the Squirt spring to break while it was being demonstrated?

SAK>CHINESEISM KNOCKOFF >LEATHERMAN

This why im always a victorinox fan, for quality and fair pricing. Plus i rarely use pliers and when i do need them, victorinox small pliers get the job done for me. Most of my tools is victorinox because they're very dependable and never broke one in proper use. Though i like supporting American business, swiss and european made products are phenomenal in both value and quality. The only leatherman i have is oht which isnt bad at all and the wingman where i was kinda disappointed with the scissor performance though not bad either, just the price gets me when theres others that are cheaper with scissors that outperform

You are not over reacting. I have had the same frustration with my style ps as well. Also with the Gerber Dime scissors and the back spring on its package opener.

Yeah! It’s an on going problem! One would think that it would be a simple fix that could have been implemented years ago. I have SAKs that are almost thirty years old and they work great! No issues! Leatherman has had a lot of distractions (lost talent, shrinking margins, COVID, labor issues, side projects, new competition, ….., etc) over the last five years! They really need to get back to basics, buckle down, and design some new great products! Hopefully, their doing this! A little bit more communication from the company would be a great start!

I would also like to suggest a mod of stripping down the leatherman to just pliers and 1 arm and mounting it into the jetsetter you showed...

The Leatherman Juice had the same problem with broken springs. I have had mine replace twice under warranty. They discontinued the Juice and I got a Wingman replacement from Leatherman. It is a shame because I loved the Juice it suited me for size and weight.

Leatherman just can't seem to do scissors really well. With very very few exceptions. As you mentioned, Victorinox does it better. They keep it simple. But the crazy thing is Victorinox stuff are super sturdy. I saw a person trying to mod a Victorinox scissor into a Wave and all the drills weren't strong enough to cut into the metal cleanly so it's surprisingly sturdy stuff. Great ideas and thoughts all around MaxlevelEDC! :D Really love your channel and have learned so much from you! :P

Same issue for me. Both broke closed in the tool. On my third one and putting in the warranty order for replacement once again… I love this tool as my daily driver and never even notice it on my belt loop, but SO SICK of this. Update 4/28/24, scissor spring just broke again for the 4th time and they are never being used when it brakes. Done with Leatherman. Sending it back for its final repair and then posting it on EBay to pay for its non- Leatherman replacement.

Might be possible to replace the Style PS' scissors with the one found on a Victorinox 58mm. Just placed them side by side and the dimensions seem te add up (with, length and handle/cutting edge ratio) don't know about the pivot point though. Would be my bladeless pick with best of both worlds, essentially a Ramble (EDC and personal favourite) with pliers sans knifeblade.

Got my self one of these bad boys an the mod. Completely understand why it's frustrating for that specific tool. Could change it into a smaller blade but it does defeat the purpose. I do hope leatherman sees this vid. They gotta step up there game.

I've had a squirt do that. They need to make a spring that's got more give so it can take being under constant tension while closed.

I had 2 squirt PS4,s and 1 style PS that done exactly the same so i now carry a victorinox rambler on my keyring

I must be the luckiest dude in the world….. in the last decade I’ve had two Style PS, and two of the Squirts and not had a single issue, still in regular use. As to the TSA comment…. I still want a Skeletool “SX” with large scissors replacing the blade.

Yep, got one brand new, broken spring, in the box. Very annoying.

Excellent rant! Especially the part starting a bit after 4:00. This not-invented here syndrome is out of hand.

I carried a Style PS for 10+ years until I broke the pliers on a relatively mundane task. I quickly bought another, but never again trusted the pliers. I now EDC the Knipex tiny Cobra (87-100) and the Klein scissors (102) in a leather sheath, and that combo is HEAPS better than the scissors and pliers of the Style PS.

I have EDC'd my style PS on my keychain for maybe three years. The spring broke once, in the same way as yours: Scissors closed, not in use. It just broke sitting there. Very odd as I used it HEAVILY and it held up like a champ, only to fall apart for no apparent reason.

Yep. Got the same after 2 weeks of having this. Also, 'screwdriver' is so bad so don't try to use it, it's tip could be bended or broken even with light tasks. Thankfully, I have not experienced none of this with the Squirt ES for 10 years of regular use.

Victorianox never fails

We never own a Leatherman (just too expensive in Australia) but we buy generics & locally made multitiools plus we mod ours to our needs. It works, affordable & kick ass on high end multitool. Cheers mate.

Same thing happened to mine when 2 months old and they wouldn’t replace it as I was told, in Australia anyway, they don’t make them anymore

Great Video to see. I am validated! I've had the same issue here in Australia. I've sent back 4 until they gave me a completely different tool....the Style PS has a definite problem !!!!

I have nextool sailor mini and am very happy with it😂

Bought mine used with a broken spring. Sent it in for warranty repair. New spring broke in less than 3 months.

I have a Leatherman Squirt ES4 (wire stripper instead of pliers). Have not used the scissors even for once and the spring just broke. It was given to me as a gift and never have availed of the warranty claims. Btw, I'm from the Philippines.

Sheesh! I guess I should have a look at my Styles and Squirts to see if it’s happening. I rarely use them, but out of the Squirts I have, I use the wire stripper model the most. I’ve had a Micra since they came out, so it’s old, but I guess I should check that one, too! Thanks for the info. 👍

well my squits spring is still holding up, but bummer knowing this will happen eventually. I mainly use victorinox knives but the squirt is my go to pocket carry plir multitool thanks to size, tool set and quality. The squirt scissors were the closet I have seen anyone get to the victorinox 58 -74mm scrissors in cutting ability and comfort.

Same problem with my squirt

This is a good opportunity for you to make a video where you adapt a victorinox scissor spring onto the scissor spring bar.

I've gone through about ten of these scissors.

Valid concerns when an issue for years and continue to sell. 👍

Wish I could say I was surprised

For me, it was the back spring on the file that broke after about 4 months, and I didn't abuse it (or even use the file or screwdriver much at all). Keeping that Style PS for spare parts as Leatherman AU couldn't replace it as they say it's discontinued. Curious to see if LM USA even sends you your Style PS back.

My leatherman surge has heat treat problems so does the bit kit. The bits twist and the flathead tip broke off the internal tool.

same problem, mine broke twice already

While they should definitely fix their product... I personally only buy it for the pliers to pair up with a SAK Manager, great edc combination!

I have sent 4 back for this same flaw, really irritating, it's perfect for what I need, except for this darn spring.

So annoying that this fault is still there, especially after so long and it being widely recognised. You're definitely right to be annoyed and to highlight it. People respect your opinion on this kinda stuff and it will help direct people to better options out there until Leatherman rectifies this issue.

Mine is just now somewhere between Spain (where I live) and Germany, where they send them for repair. I bought it on Xmas eve, and exactly the same way, found the little metal in the floor, when the tool was laying over the table . So as you said, you pay 40 something bucks, and that's already an expensive tool, but if you need to factor in adding 10 to 15 more every year or 6 months, then it becomes a very very expensive tool. Luckily I played dumb and brought it to the store so they take care of the sending to Germany. Anyway, I was really fed-up because i love the tool. I don't understand why wouldn't they send a screwdriver and the piece for people who want to fix it themselves (or not even the screwdriver) I am sure it would be cheaper for them. It doesn't look like a very complex thing to fix when having the new piece. And then, what does it mean when people say that it is a poor heat treatment? Is that something that they are aware and It can be corrected for the new parts? is it like when swordsman put the red iron in cold water to cool it down? cant they do the same with that piece (of course when is not broken)? I understand what you said once, they probably discontinued it to minimize loses, because they have a time bomb in their hands, the more they have around the more replacements they need to do and pay for it.. Sad about the situation

Nextool has a new mini sailor scissor version with a giant scissors like a micra and a baby plier. It also has a nice looking file so it may peak your interest because I'm sure you could combine it with your regular mini sailor to create a bladeless tool. Mine is arriving tomorrow 😊

Good informative video, thanks

I'm out on Leatherman. Bought a crunch and it only took one hard use pulling fasteners to completely mangle the tip of the pliers. You say the bits die. Now there's this. Why buy expensive when I can buy cheap and it'll break about the same?

I guess they're just going to discontinue the Style as well.

I stumbled across a marketing position in Leatherman's ""Careers" section of their website a few months ago. They were looking for marketing and familiarity with PowerPoint, but NOTHING regarding social media and NOTHING regarding knowledge of tools, multitools, etc. They are completely out of touch with their customer base.

3 times already. I've sent mine in for repair due to broken scissor spring 2 times. And it broke a 3rd time.

Maybe do a video where you mod this to swap with victorinox scissors instead? That would be epic

Has the style been discounted as well or just out of stock? I just want a small blade less set of folding pliers.

Crap i just checked mine on my key chain yup mines broken too

I just sent out my STYLE which is the small version of this and has the same scissor design. Hopefully they send it back to me fixed since it is retired. Will find out in 2 weeks.

They can't sell you another one if you don't get it confiscated. I'm surprised that someone hasn't tried to sell aftermarket springs with better heat treat after a decade now.

Yep

This is the first video I’ve seen on this. Absolutely crazy. Are they having spring issues on other tools?

That buck tool looks neat, can we have a knock off of that one?

flaw spring load design, hope they will replace it soon.

ive had the same experience 3 yrs ago. since im not in the USA, it wont get repaired. they never replied to my email and just keep quite about it. i wont send it overseas as its so expensive. its quite annoying seeing this kind of problem over and over again!

same thing happened to my PS 10 yrs ago.. the spring got caught in a piece of thread in my pocket when i pulled it. the spring broke😢

I guess I fall into the lucky category… I just checked all the models I have, even the ones with a different type of spring(s), and none are broken or even showing signs on any weakness. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Yet! 😡

I already knew from the thumbnail. IF they used the Gerber Scissor on the Style PS. It would have been perfect.... that and the bladeless

I have a Swiss Army knife that is at least 30 years old, maybe older. The scissors are still perfect. What’s up with Leatherman? And I would love a blade less Rebar, but they still have a saw. And no you are not over reacting. Leatherman charges too much for this to be a problem. I don’t mind the 420/440 steel in the blade if they heat treat it properly. But the scissors need to be functional.

Mine’s in good shape just for stats for years now of daily use

It's very sad to see that such great company as Leatherman loses in quality and discontinues great models. Icve bought Juice for my elder daughter and squirt for the younger one. These are great multis. Why do they act like this? Looks that they lost their vision.

They had the market covered with the squirt ps4 and they screwed that up….

I see on Amazon it is $90.00.

Well clearly this is user error. Leaving the tool resting flat on a table puts a LOT of stress on it. It should always be suspended in the air so the hard table cannot hurt it.

Got one of these after watching one of your older videos on it. Maybe you should take that down if you actually care.

Creator, Slow your roll. Regarding not copying scissor design, have you considered the Patent Issue? On the other hand, it boggles my mind that Victorinox hasn't borrow the Wenger line scissors. (See for example Evolution 14 / S14, 18 / S18, etc.)

I wonder if LM has some kind community group where this issue can be discussed directly with their reps?

Thanks for video, great channel. Have you reviewed the Kilimanjaro 910055 Ascend 9 in 1 Multi-Tool - ? If not, can you please review it? It's basically a ps knock off and I'm tempted to get it now because the ps is discontinued.

Why can't they do a redesign and make it use a replaceable spring like SAKs do.

I am more concerned that as Tim Leatherman who is now 72 and semi retired, ages, the company leadership is more interested in driving profits than building tools with the quality worthy of their 25 year warranty, and worthy of our money. It's just sad.

I'm not sure that scissor are allowed by TSA. In Europe aren't allowed. They took me the scissors from a first aid kit. On the other hand, you could try to mod the Style with a 58mm Victorinox scissors. Maybe in the future, one of the Chinesse brands could make a Squirt PS4 copy. The Mini Sailor is too big and heavy for a keyring.

So many Americans are wary of Chinese brands for various reasons. But nowadays, I have more quality concerns when buying any American brand than an equivalent Chinese brand.

Happened to me on both my Squirt PSs. 3 times! Yes, I have two, one red one black for different bags. One got replaced. Now I can't even replace them coz they'll replace them with the lame Micra tool instead. Very angry and dissapointed. So I now have one broken one and one working one. Oh and each time they magically broke themselves. Maybe it's the heat and humidity here in Hong Kong that makes it even more easily to break these otherwise great tools from this horrible company.

it feels like SOG could dominate the small-tool market if they took the powerpint and removed the blades, can opener (the awl works fine in a pinch), eyeglasses driver, and line cutter and made the frame flush with the pliers. And fixed the heat treat. But that'd be a lot of tooling. That said, the powerpint has been out of stock on SOG's site for awhile, so... fingers crossed they're doing SOMETHING with that platform. Leatherman has quality at the Wave-Signal-Surge and arguably skeletool (CX, RX) tier, but their smaller tools have been disappointing. *some* of the juices have been good, but the rest too thick. style PS dominates on size, but at that point I feel like I'm better served by a victorinox rambler/manager between a pair of pocket pliers.

Yes. We absolutely need bladeless multi tools. What is the issue with this? Do they think that they are selling out to the anti-knifers? I'm not saying that all multi tools need to be bladeless but come on, people. Look at the world! Not to mention, nobody nowadays wants to give their kid a knife, it seems.I mean some people do but for those that don't - don't the multitool companies want to make those kids into future multi tool consumers by making multi tools that are appropriate for them now? I'm so irritated with this because I really don't like the style PS and I don't like the Gerber MP 600 bladeless and I don't want to pay for a knifeless rebar and the jetsetter - give me a break! No offense. Yours looks very nice. And I work in a hospital so I literally leave a little bit of my humanity in the car every morning, and go in... disarmed, I guess is sort of the word I'm looking for. Okay, just ranting, but SERIOUSLY!

sad thing is that even though my scissor spring still works as i am typing this (sweating) the blades themselves are dull as shit, and improperly tensioned. that is honestly what i thought this video would be about. overall poor quality control i feel

If you feel exasperated and need a word, say I Go. In Korean, aigo means utter exasperation at someone or something.

I got a Squirt P4 and was looking for a PS4 but I saw that the scissor spring breaks for no reason so I stayed away. And I got another P4. They know about this issue. Why does it make sense to them to ignore it? Not cool.

My hatred of 99% of all multitool scissors keeps getting proven.

i have 2 both with broken spring. any repair or replacement solution for this?

Off topic sorry, but do you know if the locking bit holder from the skeletool can fit into the signal? Would really love to be able to have that locking feature! Thanks!

Easy to retro fit a knockoff SAK card scissor spring...

Been thinking about getting a Nextool Flagship Mini and replacing the blade with a washer. Any chance that someone has had success with that mod?

10 years with a documented issues that hasn’t been addressed is silly. They probably figure no one will take em up on the warranty.

You’re not over-reacting. This issue is symptomatic of a much larger issue that does not apply solely to pocket/EDC knives-i.e., folks that design things (e.g., kitchen appliances, chairs, airport signs, etc.)…don’t use them!! 👎🏻😡👎🏻

Pathetic. I bought one a couple months ago as a squirt p4 backup. Im hoping it gets discontinued at this point so i can sell it.

The tweezers are put together like crap too. They ALWAYS come apart because they are just folded over and crimped.