It's so frustrating to see that in a long series like this one, the Grumps use a.) one walkthrough which is badly written and don't bother to change it, or they b.) EVENTUALLY find a good walkthrough and Dan can't seem to follow the instructions in it, or he does and Arin isn't going through each area/level with him step by step. Because we all know how Arin likes to mash buttons and rush through a level without thinking anything through. Extremely frustrating to try and watch. This is especially evident in their Skyward Sword playthrough. Shows their lack of trying to understand the game and how it works, and how Arin so badly wants to use a Sonic game like this one just for the purpose of shitting all over it. Sorry for the rant but, wow. Just wow. What has happened to Game Grumps.

Arin: "Instructions? Don't need it!" Knuckles: "Oh no."

Arin is the embodiment of humanity's question of "How stupid can someone be when doing simple tasks even when given directions to doing so"

The whole knuckles walkthrough issue is so infuriating, like imagine thinking that saying someone’s full name to your rabid fanbase was okay, especially over something they wrote as a literal child and based on something entirely randomized. And then they brushed it off as a non issue, it’s disgusting

The thing that's most infuriating is when Arin dies on purpose multiple times or purposefully glitches the game by hugging walls and spamming buttons then saying "See the game sucks." He does similar shit to Sonic and the Black Knight, Majora's Mask, Skyward Sword, etc

The one thing I still find myself being amazed by is that for the entirety of Game Grumps' existence... Arin is still bad at playing video games. It's amazing that he has seemingly learned nothing all this time and has not grasped on to the basics of gaming. At all.

Now that I think about it, it’s really disrespectful and hypocritical of them to insult the graphic designers for having to rush the game. Cause you know when Arin or Dan need time to work on their own stuff, they’ll use this excuse 100% and will ignore people for telling them their work isn’t really good.

45:10 are we just going to ignore the fact Danny just subconsciously described Arin completely without noticing?

One this I loved about Jon was he would argue with Arin because he wasn't afraid of getting fired since it was his show too. All Dan does is yes sir, thank you sir.

Speaking as a life-long Sonic fan, watching Arin play this game is about as painful as he acts like playing the game is. *Listening* to him play it is about as painful as I imagine giving birth is.

It only took DarkSydePhil two and a minutes to get Froggy in Tropical Coast with Big. It took the Game Grumps 16. HOW!?

Arin: Yeah, I get it. Narrator: He did not get it.

Arin is the reason instructions were invented

>Arin hates SA1&2 >Dies on first enemy Ohhhhh, this one is going to hurt...

This project of Arin's is just a self fulfilling prophecy. Plays game wishing to hate it, proceeds to have a bad time playing said game, bad time reflects in commentary and demeanor. I swear Arin tries to prove something with projects like this and all he proves is that he's pigheaded, shockingly immature for a man his age and a whole host of descriptors I'll leave out for brevity.

Tikal: Wasn't there something shiny in the caves? Arin: *Goes to station square* Tika: Go to the Mystic Ruins, you may find something. Arin: *Continues to run around station square* ???????? Why?

Man, four years later, and this is still hard to watch. I remember the GG fanboys defended Arin for this horrible playthrough.

I'm glad that someone was able to make a tihydp out of this. I know that Arin hates Sonic games and everybody has the right to their opinion, but this was one of the most pretentious let's plays he's ever done. It sometimes makes me think that Arin just enjoys the gaming staples like Mario, zelda, Mega Man, and likes to bash any niche series he didn't grow up with like a boomer. I also got the same impression from him playing Spongebob: Battle For Bikini Bottom.

My God, I forgot how much god damn padding there was here with no edits

I hate so much how just, RIGHT off the bat Arin is just shitting on the game for the stupidest reasons. Switch to the next phase of the stage and it takes a split second to load? "I have no idea what the fuck is happening" Can't get up the *physics based* slope because you're not going fast enough? "This is so awkward to control" One can argue the validity of the pop-in comments, but the rest of the stuff is typical game shit that Arin twists into a negative light because he doesn't like Sonic. It's incredibly frustrating.

This was back when I thought Arin's rage was for pure 'comedy'... Now I realize he's just another hypocrisy embodying specimen, with piss poor sense of judgement and most questionable logic. He genuinely believes he's making good critical points here. Arin raging at the Froggy stages isn't funny in the slightest anymore. That's how bad this playthrough has aged, IMO. EDIT: I was never an avid follower of the Grumps. I didn't watch them that often because I usually steer away from LPs of games I haven't played myself. Maybe if I did watch them on a regular basis, I would've caught on to Arin's toxicity a lot earlier.

When Arin plays games he doesn't like it reminds me of how I would play games as a very small child that didn't know how anything works in games. I feel as though that means something but I genuinely don't know at this point.

You gotta love how Arin will just turn his control stick in any direction that isn't forward just to make the game seem worse. How can someone be so deluded that they intentionally sabotage themselves.

I remember my dad hated this game, but he still did a better job than Arin and Dan here.

I despise how they whine about everything they come across “Yeah that happens every day, I go into some sewers and find a pair of shoes” Like yeah alright, guess we’ll just not have video game power ups then, like grow up

This is like the anti-thesis to the Runaway Guys' LP of the game. Both focused on showing as many glitches possible to show how the game has aged, but while one party used it as an excuse to whine and bitch about it more, the other took it in stride because of how hilariously bizarre it caused the game to get and it only made it more enjoyable to them. They actually focused on *gasp* having FUN with the game, and why unlike GG, even episodes where zero progress was being made in the game, it was still entertaining.

Game Grumps: Put out hours upon hours of episodes slowly trudging through the game, purposely making the game look bad, having zero brain function, and cause harm to their fans and a guy who made a walkthrough as a kid. Oneyplays: Put out a few hours of episodes edited down to avoid getting stale, spend the whole time trying to make each other laugh, and decide to stop playing when they get tired and move on instead of forcing out an extra 40 episodes.

I Beat this game when I was like 6 or 7. Meanwhile, Arin "I do gaming for a living" hanson can't beat Chaos 0. He is truly, without a doubt, BAD at video games.

The more i watch this, the less I can defend Dan. He seems to blindly agree with Arin far, far, far too often. Also, thank you for putting this together, I was hoping someone would finally call them (by them, i mean Arin) out on their unfair bashing of this great game

Oh god I remember watching this playthrough from start to finish. What the fuck was wrong with me back then?!

"Insanity is, doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again expecting shit to change" Watching Arin play is insanity.

1:34 “Did you die on the first boss?!” - ProtonJon

I didnt even realize you could make a Straw Man Argument out of a game, and yet ARIN FOUND A WAY

52:40 considering how often the Sonic social media accounts interact with Arin,i would say his opinions matter a bit more than not at all,let alone the size of the fanbase that could take his incredibly biased opinion as gospel,and belittle others for enjoying things

In a game where the objective is push forward on the stick, Arin's method...is to not. "WELL HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOU GO FORWARD?!"

Everytme I hear Arin or Dan saying that Sonic Boom was better it makes me churn my stomach. This is unfair to compare a broken port of a game versus a game that is already broken. Hell, I beaten the broken port back in the day and only met a few bugs and glitches while Arin tries to find them all to prove that this game sucks.

I'm convinced he clipped through that narrow bath before the first loop on purpose, like you have to fucking try to run into that

Did Arin just die to Knuckles?

He literally stops moving, HE DOES WHAT THE GAME IS PRETTY MUCH TELLING HIM NOT TO DO AND HE COMPLAINS WHEN SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS??? JESUS CHRIST HOW HARD IS IT TO JUST RUN STRAIGHT AHEAD

Oh my gosh guys, I finally get it. After all these years I finally get what you all went through during this series. I just played Sonic Adventure DX this year and I absolutely LOVE this game! Sure there were some spots that were a little rough but honestly it was a super enjoyable game, and this is coming from someone who doesn’t play games often for fear of getting stuck or lost. It’s a very easily manageable Sonic game that has a bunch of great music, cool moments, and surprisingly tight controls! I almost want to say it’s my favorite! So to have this absolute moron shit all over this game, for stuff that is either CLEARLY HIS FAULT or irrelevant, and convince his friend who wouldn’t be able to get his own opinion in edgewise because he can’t play the game AND ON TOP OF THAT have Sonic team praise him for it, it’s infuriating. This is the same man who called someone out on twitter for making fun of storytime animators, oh but Sonic fans who genuinely love and have a passion for a 20 year old game, now that’s fair game! I’ll admit, I used to laugh at shit like this because I didn’t know what I was missing but now, holy shit, I almost can’t even finish this. I’m sorry...I’m just so sorry.

I'll go ahead and say it, I never had any problems with the movement quirks in 3D Sonic games because from DX to Ow the Edge, they ALL HAD THEM. Part of getting good at these games is figuring out what types of movements will lead to stupid/cheap deaths and learning not to make those movements. Once you figure that out it's actually so easy to avoid glitch deaths it's not even something you do consciously.

this is what bugs me about Dan Dan isn't confident enough to disagree with Arin on his opinions so he just agrees with Arin he hates sonic so Dan hates sonic too I don't think dan actually hates this game he's just going along with Arin because he's conditioned to I don't hate Dan but him just agreeing with Arin always bugged me

Something I never really noticed until now: do the Grumps search for walkthroughs in order of worst to best and choose the top option? It seems like that's what they do. I'm now tempted to make a walkthrough for SA2 where I describe every level and action 100% wrong. With any luck they'd use it and never figure it out.

Arin's absent-minded wandering after he completely ignores where to go next drives me crazy. He does it in EVERY GAME with an exploration aspect.

It's crazy how this doesn't have more views, this was a very high quality TIHYDP by the game grumps, Expertly made, this was an amazing contribution by you, godspeed

I wasn't around for the jon era of game grumps, but seeing the beginning of this makes me think I missed some really good parts. I like how jon actively defends SA 1 and 2 instead of just nodding and being like, "Oh, is that right?" or just jumping on the hate train with arin because it's "cool" to hate sonic. And don't get me wrong, I know these two games have issues, but they're not a buggy, almost unplayable mess.

Thank you Derek, for showing the rotten filth the Game Grumps described as a walkthrough. I was about to explode in frustration.

Only 31 minutes in and... Holy shit, people actually watch this? And could be entertained by that? This is horseshit. You don't have to be the best player in the universe to be entertaining but Arin just keeps looking for ways to make the game look bad and he and Dan just constantly trash the game and belittle people for liking it. As if they, especially Arin, are the highest instance of judgement how good a game can be when their height of "comedy" is poop and dick jokes. This stuff is legit hard to watch and it makes me rather consider to watch a DSP video instead, might be more tolerable. (Props to the creator for highlighting how absolutely horrible this playthrough is!)

Isn't it funny how when Arin bashes a game that honestly doesn't deserve it (Sonic Adventure), everyone is so quick to jump on that hatred bandwagon and claim this game is somehow worse than the worst of Sonic? Yet when Arin says he doesn't like Super Mario 64 for arguably the same reasons, everyone is like "Ohhh welll.....Shucks...That's just what he thinks! The game is a 3D masterpiece!"

So I came to this video and I have to say I wasn't disappointed with this, This is how you don't play. I'll be perfectly honest here I have been to the others and I love those two, because it shows a really clear picture of how Arin acts about certain video games that are popular. Whether they be Zelda, Sonic, or Mario games, he finds a way somehow to screw it up and blames the game like a child and says how bad the whole game is and how you should feel bad for liking the game. Its immature and disrespectful to not only to your fans to act like that, but to the people that is your fanbase that actually like these games, especially Sonic and Zelda. I know I shouldn't shove my opinions down people's throat, but for god sake's at least try to respect people's like for the game and not berate people for liking the just because you don't like it. But other than that entire tirade, good job Derek for pointing this out for other people to see.

For someone who loved this game as a kid, watching this gave me such a headache. Although, for someone who grew up with adhd, i would often get lost, HOWEVER, I wouldn’t get frustrated like arin did.

You can make any game look bad if you talk about it like they do.

1:38:03 "Wasn't there something shiny in the cave?" *Gets on the monorail*

Man after I finished this video I thought about why Arin hates this game so much. (It's a theory but) Maybe he hates Sonic Adventure because it reminds him of Jon and he knows he loves it. So all those mental health jokes were probably targeted at him. If he actually went out and admitted he liked certain parts and aspects he might feel like he's agreeing with Jon. Even when Jon was on the show he really went out his way to disagree with him. It clearly isn't just the fans making him hate these games it's his also his perspective on these fans. Like when he bashes on a game it feels vindictive rather than him genuinely disliking the game. He really goes out of his way to play a certain style and to say such mean comments not only about the game but the fans of it as well. So I think Arin has some unresolved issues manifesting through his perspective on video games probably because it stems from someone else who also likes video games. Jon.

I think the thing that bugged me most was when Arin didn't notice the GIGANTIC sewer entrance in station square.

This is a well made gem, glad I found it so early too. Awesome job here, friend. 😊

My favorite part of Game Grumps is when both Arin and Dan constantly talk over cutscenes making jokes that are really not that funny and then question what the hell is going on and are confused afterwards. *Same applies when they look at tutorial stuff, skip it, then not know what they're doing*

r/rantgrumps Where ya at!?! On a more important note tho, solid work with this one mate. We were long overdue for a TIHDYP of this series

So Sega is willing to thank a hater over one of their biggest supporters... I'm pretty sure that confirms Sega hating Sonic and wanting the franchise to die

Sooo... What port of this game did they play? I played the DX version very recently and never had this many issues with it.

43:19 oh. Oh,so he's going down _this_ route now? Damn,I'd love to see Arin's video games then,if he's gonna shit on SA this much and this unfairly

Even though I'm almost 2 years late to this, I recently realized just how toxic the Game Grumps are to the entire Sonic series, fandom, games, everything. Video games are probably the first artistic medium out there in which you have to have a certain level of skill in order to actually form a respectable opinion. I'm not sure if this even boils down to skill, though, every clip I've seen of them playing SA 1/2 and Heroes is just Arin blaming everyone but himself for everything.

Does he just not realize that sonic is a momentum based game? Has he never been in a first grade science class? Does he not realize speed is built up and you can’t just walk up walls???

Arin “The Game Sucks Because I'm Bad At It” Hanson

I wish a sound would come on when text comes on screen. Often I'll just zone out and do something else

This is Arins idea of “exposing” a game 🙄

These examples feel like the epitome of reason why Dan doesn’t go well with Arin, game wise. My own take is that Arin gives all the wrong points on games, with Dan, imo, have to follow along with Arin’s opinions because he’s his friend. It’s cringy to see Arin throw so much out the window, not thinking twice about literally ANYTHING, and takes everything as time gives them, living in the moment, no, the SECOND. Honestly, Dan could go off better, in terms of games, over someone with hypocrisy as loud and ignorant as this one. I don’t hate Arin, I pity him. Nothing can ever make me recover from what his mouth spews. A pattern grown overused.

2:58:17 “Ok everybody, shut up, shut up, shut up. Shut up. Shut up! SHHUTT UUP!!! SHHHHUUUUUTTTTT UUUUUPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” - Eggman 2019 (Sonic Adventure 2 Dark Story and Final Story Fandub)

1:33:26 Arin is a hypocrite

All of these videos are incredibly helpful. They not only inform me how to not play video games, how not to review video games, and how the hell i watched Game Grumps growing up.

For anyone interested, the music at 2:23:33 is Tommy the Cat

For the longest time I didn’t know what a game grumps is so I watched a couple of these how not to play vids... and after watching this I learned just how dumb people can be XD Good to see my baby sister has more common sense than Arin so far when it comes to playing games 👀👀

Local high-school drop out calls gamma epsilon.

Sonic Adventure: *Does something a video game does* Arin: "Wow this game is trash!"

It always impresses me when I see full grown adults who use video games as a vehicle to be relevant are not only awful at playing video games but can't even hold their attention at the game enough to know where to go. The game is so generous with hints or even straight up showing you what you need to do in such a small hub world that you'd think you'd never need a walkthrough just to find objectives that are a few steps away that even the literal 8 year olds that played this game when it first came out could find on their own. It's a bit anecdotal of me to say but I'm pretty sure people have been playing and beating Sonic Adventure before everyone had easy access to the internet. Probably helps that most of people and especially young children that play video games want to actually beat the game they got with their allowance or as a gift instead of making unfunny pee-pee poo-poo jokes or ribbing on the game being played mercilessly in an incessant manner with whaky voices as 'commentary' while having no clue what to do next. And hey, if it seems like I'm being overly petty or mocking about how Arin handled this playthrough, it's okay. I'm just exaggerating to be funny. You had a happy fun time reading this, right? Yeah? Good! Now I can continue to say whatever I want and feel so validated for it with only slight pushback now. :) ~

So Arin just casually owes Jon a million dollars.

Cant wait for Oney plays to eventually play this with Cory who will probably destroy at this game

it’s just so frustrating how unfair arin is to this game (and a lot of other older games they play of this same ilk) by refusing to accept the context of its release. this game was released as the first true 3D sonic experience, at a time when 3D games were still getting their proper footing. not many devs knew how to make a game work in 3D, especially when it came to things like mapping controls to accommodate for quickly changing camera angles and the camera itself. when you think about it like that, it’s so much easier to appreciate this game for what it did at the time. it’s not as great as mario 64 or OoT, but it still is a fun and functional game, despite some jank due to aforementioned factors

1:37:34 “wasn’t there something shiny in the caves?” *proceeds to explore everywhere but the caves*

My friend, I have never gotten through more then one or two episodes of game grumps. You make watching them bareable. Thank you

I used to try and cut them some slack because i struggled a lot like they did when i first played Sonic Adventure. But i recently had the realization that i was 4 when i first played it. The reason i struggled so much was because i couldn't read or fully comprehend what i was being told. And these grown men somehow struggled MORE than a literal 4 year old that didn't have any guidance or walkthrough Like, i get that it's hard to focus on a game while trying to be entertaining, especially since they do little to no cuts in their playthrough's. But come on man...

Tikal: Wait for Chaos to drop his guard before going for the weakspot. Arin: No shit! Also Arin: Proceeds to dive head first mutiple times into Chaos while he has his guard up My god man! pay attention you numbskull!

Some of these problems only exist in the DX version, and some of them have to be intentionally activated.

The weird thing is, when Arin played through 06, he was ACTUALLY HAVING FUN with it. Now, his frustration and hatred towards the series feels on purpose. Even when watching the first episode of mania, critically the best sonic game in years, you can still feel the hatred towards the series being forced despite the fact that he’s most likely having fun. If he has any minor inconvenience in a sonic game, it’s bad design. But if another franchise does it, he just blames himself for the mistake.

Man that intro gave me such nostalgia I miss Jon era game grumps

Jontron is literally the one smart guy here.

The intro to the Peach's Slide music always gets me for some reason! It's like "WELP! Time for a 'Game Grumps don't know where to go despite it being painfully obvious' fast-forward! Here we go everybody!"

1:05:10 well actually that's not even Mecha Sonic,that is the second to last boss in Sonic 2,commonly referred to as Silver Sonic.Mecha Sonic is the more lanky,humanoid looking one from Sonic 3.It _is_ easy to get them confused, because they're serve the exact same purpose,and I'm just utilizing my dumb nerd knowledge

This playthrough started up back when I was still a subscriber and regular viewer of Game Grumps, they also happened to start this series up shortly after I had just recently played this game for the first time for myself and really enjoyed it, having replayed the game a few times now over the years and recently finally unsubscribed from Game Grumps due to loss of interest in their content looking back at this now is extremely painful to watch, and I'm not even 30 minutes in lol.

I beat this game when I was 10. How are they so bad at this?

I got this video from KZfaq algorithm and can I just that this video needs more attention because Game Grumps are assholes when it comes to Sonic franchise and I think mostly to Sonic.

FINALLY! SOMEBODY WHO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND HOW I FEEL ABOUT THE GAME GRUMPS' HATE FOR SONIC!!! I know it's his opinion that Sonic is bad and everybody has the rights of having one,but this is an rare ocassion where a opinion is actually wrong! All the GG are doing is just making the game look worse than it actaully is,his hatred for Sonic extended so much that it influenced a bunch of uninformed people to hate on Sonic. I am a Sonic Fan since i was 5 years old and now i'm 16,during all the years i spent playing those games i can say with confidence that i didn't need any sort of guide playing SA1 or any other Sonic Games,and when i did had trouble,i didn't blame the game,i blammed myself for not being smart with beating the game. Arin just literally dies to Knuckles,stop on loop making it glitch when you are SUPPOSED TO PRESS FORWARD,ONE A GAME THAT ALL ABOUT RUNNING,looks for as much glitches as he can find to make the game look bad and was probably the origin of the infamous quote "Sonic was never good"! I simply cannot understand why SEGA supports this dude,he doesn't like Sonic and somehow,someway Sega invites him to a bunch of Sonic related stuff,like in the Big the Cat Music Video,i love that video and the song but i don't like the fact that they invited a Sonic Hater to participate in these Sonic stuff,i subscribed to a whole bunch of Sonic KZfaqrs that could be perfect for stuff like this,such as SpeedSuperSonic,SPD64,CuteyTCat,SonicSong182,AnimeBroMii,Courtney ProjectSNT,Charii5,MugiMikey,RidersDX and the list goes on,they have been Sonic Fans for ages and make content about the Blue Blur for ages and overall supported the series and becuase famous because of this series for YEARS,and instead on inviting them,Sega invites Arin,it's like you are having a birthday party,but instead of inviting your friends,you invited the bullies who mocked you at school,i really hope Arin loses everything he has,so he can learn his lesson to NOT BEING SHIT AT THE GAME! Thank you,and good night!

1:50:34 I couldn't find a lot of info on these controversies, can I get some help

This game didn't exactly age well compared to other classics that had already existed at the time like Mario 64 or Diablo, but they really do a good job of making it look bad.

I beat Adventure 1 twice in a few days at age 13 and this grown man who plays video games for a living died to Chaos 0

Yeah I played the Dreamcast version of this game and saw none of the issues Arin was seeing, I wasn't bugging out half the time and thought his criticism of the game at the time was unfair, because he wasn't talking about the port but just saying it was Sonic Adventure as a whole.

Wow, you weren’t kidding. Well done 💯

So I played this for the first time a few weeks ago thanks to hacking my Wii(which I'm still new at) and I know what Arin was doing wrong. You have to wait until froggy bites the lure and IMMEDIATELY press and hold down to start reeling him in. You have to be careful not to get him stuck on walls or he'll escape. It won't take away a life though. It only directly tells you how to play Big's levels if you choose the option before starting his story. It would be nice if you were also given the basics while playing, like every future entry in the series does. But even then, Arin would still be an idiot and not figure out what he's supposed to do, as evident by ignoring Tikal in Knuckles's Speed Highway stage, and still looking up guides in Skyward Sword, even though Fi gives you hints any time you choose.

I saw the Super Best Friend playthrough of this game recently (never watched their stuff besides the podcast). It wasn't the best playthrough to be honest. I was a little upset Woolie and Matt weren't paying too much attention to the game, but at least Liam was there to play the game and explain what was going on. What I'm saying is the Game Grumps definitely need a Liam.

I really hope one day, someone makes a series of people playing parts in games, and then followed by Arin poorly playing them in the style of Animaniacs' Good Idea, Bad Idea, like they did with DSP.