Believe it or not, the founder's shores book market is one of the biggest draws in the city. A lot of the books were made with the paper from the city's original paper mill that was the pride of Verde Beach back in the beginning. The book store actually connects under the street allowing shoppers to view all the collectors grade inventory in both buildings without having to go outside. There is even an ultra rare book vault.

The metro line runs directly under Founder's Shores - I think it's a perfect opportunity to add one of the new metro stations!

Loving the redevelopment! One tiny, TINY thing I would suggest: At the 33:26-ish mark you show off the new wall-to-wall along the waterfront area, and I couldn't help but think that it could use a couple of cut-throughs, probably in line with the streets heading down to the water. It would break up the street wall a little and allow pedestrian access without going all the way around. Always happy to see Verde Beach!

You could try rocks too as a covering tool, basically making retaining walls with the small rock tool

Instead of having 2 metro stations across each other in front of the university, you can just put the new 2 tracks metro station that comes with the new dlc.

P&P is a really cool and fun DLC, but it further emphasizes a current problem with the game that I don't think many are talking about: We need more dlc parity (such as making Universities work with P&P). As a side note, the Seaside Resort CCP came with a small fire station (which kind of looks like a church), a small police station, and (an asset I think you could use a lot in VB, as well as other cities) a small library. They are in their own separate CCP tab in the menus.

I've seen that the service points are very picky they like a lot of extra vehicles. Check the garbage truck usage at your service points, it may need to be increased to collect all the trash. It doesn't matter if you have overall capacity, it's specific to the ped districts

I really like that you're coming back to the older areas in the city and rethinking them,it's really nice to see the progression over time and we can always go back to early episodes to see how it's changed from each episode and I think that's really neat. Such a well done build.

I LOVE the saltiness of you explaining the problems with Plazas and Promenades. Go off, Phil!

I feel like someone needs to create a walking tour guide to the best walks in Verde Beach, some of the trails & views would be spectacular! Walk #1 - Founders Park to The Hamilton Experience via the new pedestrianised route along the river Edit - will need to check the boat routes as one went through one of the new piers during the city tour at the end of the episode!

I love the bookstore across from the bookstore that is also catty corner to another bookstore! There’s a corner in my city that has fast food chicken on all 4 corners and it’s so unique hahaha

I've had the same struggles with bus routes that you had around 34:40. It only lets me do a straight bus route if I put stops on literally every block. Also, I think that downtown needs a skyline update, given how much the city has grown.

At 39:15, the water pumping trucks count as fire protection, as do everything from the Natural Disasters DLC.

I believe that garbage, crime and health issues that happen within the whole campus area are teleported to the main building of the campus, similar to industries. Fire happens anywhere still, so I loved the Plaza & Promenades update to use pedestrian roads accessible for emergency vehicles!

City planner plays, my beloved

On the topic of the wall to wall buildings: They are the sort of thing you'd see in a designated street, or a few blocks. One of those touristy areas that the city is "proud" of. Same with the pedestrian areas, you'd not see whole city areas of that. Maybe a few blocks around a city center etc.

Hi Phil - just thanking you once again for putting out yet another fantastic episode and as always you have done a great job with both the district and the landscaping. however, whilst the pedestrian path added that links the sunset district to the farmers market looks great - it does go right in front of the Hospital - more specifically the emergency entrance - which given the size of the hospital would be very VERY busy - thus whilst the ambulances can drive on the pedestrian paths as you know, it would be very dangerous especially with the large amount of vehicles driving on the path, thus I personally think it would be best if you put the path in front of the hospital ER entrance back to a road (or something along those lines) so that ambulances and other vehicles can drive on the road both quickly and safely (but still keep the pedestrian paths on the other roads as they do look great) - idk just a suggestion and something that I would consider. Great video still as always and can't wait for the next video 👍👍👍

Love the redevelopment! At around 21:00 you placed a food truck and ice cream shop park. One near the hospital and one near the high school. It’s a small change but I could see the food truck instead placed by the hospital. Having a place to go when your visiting someone or a change of scenery for hospital employees during lunch would be such a welcomed amenity!

Karen is going to be absolutely furious at the new land values! Maybe she (or her great granddaughter) wants some of this pedestrian action? Fantastic episode!

18:30 surface parking lot in the most valuable district in the city, nice :D

If there were any mod I wanted for the new DLC - I want someone to find a way to let us overlap pedestrian districts into campuses and parks.

I think the Olympics should come to Verde Beach! I imagine the building of an Olympic Park would take place somewhere outside of the city, maybe close to the airport, so little eminent domain needs to be used!

Yes please keep it the Madison Pedestrian area. You released the video very close to my cats birthday and every time I hear it I smile. She passed a year ago, but she’s always in my heart!

The bridge by the university also has vehicles drive a veeery slow speed! Maybe that's has something to do with the pedestrian area policy?? That might make traffic worse

Hey CPP, one thing I think might be nice: extended city tours that go over more of the whole city every 10 or so episodes. Just to remind us of what has been accomplished, and how little things may have changed over time.

What the campus dlc needs is a facilities building for power, water, or waste management. What major campus doesn't have that?!?! Love the rework of the university because it's now got two main avenues that intersect at the heart of the campus. Also, the alignment of the buildings now makes the whole place look like a well-planned location - which college campuses are. I agree that a campus shouldn't need to have local roads through it. Unless it's a campus that's had to grow in the midst of a city (like UM Baltimore or MSU in Denver) campuses are tangent to, but not integrated into the local traffic grid.

I'm still watching this series but it's nice to see a new episode as soon it realeses.

38:20 This breaks all the theory that none of the DLC features is available for pedestrian roads. Vacuum trucks are from Natural Disaster DLC!

I've watched all of Verde Beach and CWC. Both are great fun. I believe the garbage problem has to do with the number of trucks from service points and the distance they need to go to process the garbage. You may want to check that.

Something I'd love to be able to do in Cities Skylines is to add new district themes to a district, but have an option to only allow it to change if the building upgrades, that way you can get a natural evolution of an area, and make some buildings historical if you want to keep them. Especially some themes I feel become overwhelming if you blanket zone them, like the new Content Creator Pack theme. Awesome houses, but only in moderation.

33:27 I wish you left the spaces at the end of the roads perpendicular to this row of buildings empty to preserve views absolute banger as always Phil, and yes we do need lots of mods to allow us to implement ped roads however we want

The redevolopment remembers me of the big cities of the interior of the country, with a lot of back-to-back commercial and residential in the center areas, with some old houses here and there, that probably the family still lives there or doesnt sold it. it find kind funny to have a mini old house next to a 12 level apartment in the center areas kkkk

This plazas and promenades pack reminds me a lot of the vacation I took this summer to Playa Del Carmen, Mexico. 5th Avenue there is a completely pedestrian street for almost the length of the city, and there are all types of shops and restaurants there and in the areas immediately surrounding 5th. There were also a few streets that were not necessarily pedestrian only, but were very pedestrian oriented due to the proximity to the beach, and the pedestrian roads with the trees in the middle always bring Ave CTM to my mind, where we stayed!

Great changes to the University. I would change the orientation of the commencement building. It could be a tradition for people to watch from the paths, the seats are reserved. It is tradition to have picnics and ice cream in the green space. (and some parking behind for parents)

It’s incredible what pedestrianisation does to land value. Almost like living on a road with next to no vehicle traffic (and it’s pollutants) is a good thing

Great stuff! Love the changes! I wouldn't worry about the hospital being on a ped road, we can just say the emergency entrance is in the back

Excellent job, I love how it turned out. It just hit me that you're really starting to fill the map 😁😁Some more suburbs and gentrifying and Verde Beach will be craaazzy huge. 💯

Hey Phil! I think you should make a really upscale neighborhood full of mansions and such. Every city has one and I think both CC and VB should as well.

I’ve been hoping for a while that you’d redevelop parts of the old town, and this turned out really cool. I’m looking forward to seeing how the pedestrianisation will impact the Farmers market. There’s a lot of grey empty space behind that Disaster response building (I think that’s what it is, I don’t play the game myself) in the Olde industrial area. It seems wasteful to me, and I thought maybe it’s an area that you’d want to do something about. Love your content!

At 28:06 the metro station in Olde Industrial District is missing a stop on one of the platforms. Metro stops in one direction only

Love the mixed density and use. My favorite part of the city tour though were the 3 pump trucks backed up at an intersection. 😂

There were THREE! bookstores on those corners, I always wanted to see a fourth pop up and make it bookstore crossing. Also lol'd at that historic home being preserved to have parking lots built right next to it. Nothing says historic preservation like putting surface lots where other historic buildings once stood (in all seriousness, my city does this all the time lol). Also lol'd hard at gentrification DLC.

Good development. This remind me of when I set a theme for an area, like European, but don’t draw the districts perfectly so a vanilla asset sneaks through. It creates variety and history while still keeping in line with the theme At the 33 min mark, those wall-to-wall buildings take the river views away slightly. Maybe could be knocked down for some breathing room or a narrow plaza could be created

37:24 Jesus Christ! That's Phillip Bourne! The international identity thief. Love the urban renewal of Founders Shores, it turned out great. I'm not sure about the small buildings across the street from the fishing pier though, I think making it an open space might be better. May I suggest adding a couple of restaurants from the Mid Century CCP to the 7th street farmers market, they'd fit well there. Excellent work like always, Phil.

For the trash I think you need to look at the service points. Could be that the city has enough capacity, but the service points don't have enough trucks to keep up.

Another perfectly entertaining episode but I’m not sure I’m fully on board with redeveloping the very first district in the city. A place like Founders Shores might have been better almost untouched. It’s history, after all. I do have an idea for a new district though! I think canals are really underutilised in CS builds generally, but Verde Beach would be a perfect place for them. I’d love to see a district similar to Venice Beach pop up in Verde Beach, with its canals and steep pedestrian bridges dominating. Could work well with Parks and Plazas too.

gaah! i had fallen asleep (at work) listening to your voice. the sudden loud music of the city tour woke me up again. *grumpy now*

I love how the transitions between the different districts look, seems a lot more realistic. I can definitely see how the garbage is the biggest downside of P&P though, it doesn't make any sense that basically everything but that can go on the pedestrian roads

Hey Phil at 17:44 you deleted a nearby older hospital, but didn't replace it with anything. Maybe given the trash problems you could put a waste transfer facility

I like the idea of redeveloping old neighborhoods,this makes me wish Cities Skylines had an historical mode or something that lets you develop cities more naturally

I think you should add a plaza or park in that line of commercial by fisherman’s bend. All the views of the water are obstructed by that wall to wall commercial. A gap between the buildings showing the water would be nice for people walking/driving by.

Love this episode. Or though, I would be annoyed if my historic home ended up next to a hospital carpark & a noisey plaza 😂

42:53 And it won't even burn down since you have such an amazing access for fire trucks :)))

You might wanna take a check on your boats/ferry rides/lines so they dont have a collission course with the new piers you added in the pedestrians district down by the water. Did see some that just activated wall hack and passed them

I cracked up when you called it the gentrification DLC lol

Oh you aligned the dorm building that was misaligned from last episode. THANK YOU

I've seen those exact mid-rise buildings complete with abstract murals in Cambridge, MA. The Goodall Institute needs to have something named after Gary Larson.

1 you forgot to upgrade the path behind your hospital (unless that is intentional) 2 you could pedestrianize (some of) the sideroads of your transit corridor if you want to cut down on stops. most of them are quite short so it would probably look natural. you'd lose some connectivity across your transit corridor but that can be solved by leaving only a single regular (with the rest bein pedestran roads) road between two stops to prevent the bus pathfinding unintended route while preserving some vehicle connectivity across. it could take some trial and error to get the correct effect but it's worth it.

I think the accessible parking slots in the parking beside the new hospital should be more near to the building than the sidewalk.

For those of you interested in why this happens "8:28" . The game has 2 categories of roads, normal and pathways. Pathways do not have zoning while standard roads do. In campus and all dlc that have the purple zoning it allows ploppable objects to have their service points moved to the primary building of that zone. For campus the administrative building would be the primary. With the new pedestrian roads and pedestrian zones this feature is toggled to correct the problem for buildings that don't have a primary "27:51" Deliver everything. In short, with every campus, a building on a pedestrian road will have it's services still cared for by the administrative building. Which you can see does have a normal road connection "2:03". So watch for garbage to come through and see the other buildings tied to the campus become happy. (Double check that the garbage truck that does show up has the capacity to collect for all the building(s). If not you may need a waste transfer facility closer that can accommodate that area.)

Aw, you only preserved two of the bookstores. Part of the fun of that whole scenario was that there was a book store on three corners of the intersection, not just that one was across the road from another. As for what vehicles are allowed, I'd wager that the vacuum trucks fall under the "emergency vehicle" umbrella of what's allowed on the pedestrian roads, whereas delivery and garbage trucks are programmed to explicitly not go on the roads and only function with service points. Part of the issue then is what buildings properly interact with pedestrian roads and service points, as it seems that's not universal. Hopefully they'll add updates to makes the various DLCs and such play nicer with each other so their aren't as many niche quirks that you have to work around. For the bus route though, did you try removing all the stop points from that area and then re-adding them to see if it still does that weird detour road shift? It looked like there was a jump cut in there so I'm not sure if that was a part of the fix attempts. For your pedestrian area garbage issues, that may be a service point issue, not a landfill issue. The service points determine how many garbage trucks (as well as delivery trucks) you have servicing the area, especially if you have "deliver everything". Yes, you placed the "large service point", but have you actually checked it to see the trucks in use and capacity?

You know, I was all for the sandstone roads in the campus area, but the bluestone looks **amazing**. I'm glad we were wrong, and am always happy to learn tricks for my own cities.

Founder's Square looks great! For the uni, do consider adding the garbage service point and pretend that it's the uni's recycle center!

Absolutely love love love this build. It looks super real and fits into Verde Beach beautifully. Keep it up Phil 👍🏼

Phil, you may want to double check the fishing route along the river. I thought I spotted a boat tearing through the new tourist piers.

Keep it madison!! I didn't like when you destroy the old buildings. but after it was done, the city looks like it grew up. Pretty damn cool.

I would imagine that the hospital would have bought 1 or both of the historic homes on their block and converted them to medical offices. I've seen that kind of thing in a few places - Use change, but perfectly preserved exterior.

This is the first episode I'm finally caught up to and able to watch when its fresh

I love the redevelopment, in particular the pedestrian street along the waterline. I think the bus only road is not working, is slowing down buses. It has a top speed of 20, it might work better as a regular street.

Great video! Loved what you did with the districts.

About the little islands in the river. Ever thought about connecting them with pedestrian paths put some amenities on them. Turn it into park or nature reserve call it Stepstones or something

So cool to be back to where it all began!👍👍

Some of the residential buildings CPP chose to preserve looks like some family restaurant that you would still see in high-density areas so it does make sense to keep them, though it's not functioning as a restaurant.

Loved the university change this episode ! did not feel it was up to the mark last episode but now its wonderful ! also the new district is awesome

Myrtle is back. I think she is haunting Verde Beach.

Keep the madison Area. It is named after the Founder "Phil" who founded verde Beach in 2020. As every one knows he lives in Madison in the great state of wisconsin. So it is a great name i guess :)

Saving a few one tile homes and have them next or near skyscrapers would be interesting. it would be like how New York has the occasional old Gilded Age manor here and there in the city back in the day.

CPP: "This land is so valuable!" Also CPP: "I'm going to use this space for parking"

New Fisherman’s Quay would be a cool name for the coastal pedestrian area :)

Hi Phil, been watching since Ep 1 but never been up to date enough to comment! Seems like it definitely worth checking if there is a Waste Transfer Facility near this new district. Obviously a few episodes ago you moved a lot of the rubbish recycling into a services facility that wasn't in the main city so perhaps it's just too far for the rubbish lorries to travel currently? Also, was there a post office in this new district? With the new use of pedestrian roads it'd be likely there'd be a Post Office within walking distance for pedestrians not wanting to use cars. Finally, a clarification: the new office, residential, and commercial buildings constructed along the shoreline would not have any regular road access. I don't know how that affects NPC behaviour since they'd only be able to walk/cycle to their jobs? Maybe having a tourist/arcade specialisation would make sense along the quay wall as would be common in many cities globally? Thanks for all your effort and the huge amount of work you put into community suggestions and feedback, it really makes it feel like a combined effort

The gentrification DLC😂😂😂😂

I might be wrong but I believe campus’s deal with trash the same way pedestrian areas do except it is done through the main building - the first one you place. I believe this building needs to be on a road I have definitely seen (in the past week or so) a campus main building in my city have the “trash is piling up” notification and I do not own the Plaza’s DLC.

thanks for explaining in detail the game mechanics that made you want to upgrade the campus! i admit i didnt understand it from the original episode

Great build this week. Small piece of feedback would be that the neighborhood would benefit from a few tree lines streets instead of all grass lined. Plenty of new road options to try.

Your fishing routes are now going straight through your brand new piers!

I never knew of a Panda enclosure. All captive Pandas, in real life, must be rented from China for 1 million dollars a year. That's a big investment for a zoo/city. it would be cool if they incorporated that high expense into the game. It truly is a status symbol for your zoo.

I love how this pops up as soon as I open KZfaq because I can't sleep 😴😌

this was great rework on founders shore.Ithink that when we get mods for new dlc it really can revitalise old district and allow making of unique areas

I love what you did, CPP, take care!

I think the rebuild in the area looks and fits better now. I agree mid-rises were missing and sorely needed. It feels funny because you're doing it all at once but it is something you're simulating that has actually developed over the years since the city began. As for the trash problem at the University, isn't there a policy in the district you have to enact with pedestrian roads to make all buildings in the area use the service points for garbage and goods? I believe you pointed on it in this episode at 27:55 but didn't activate it, called Delivery Everything. Try that at the University. It is probably why garbage trucks don't use those roads.

there was actually a third bookstore at the corner with the two you preserved

I think it would be very neat to see how City Planner would make a Commercial Park zone. Often, here in the midwest, we see parks along the rivers, including in the office zones. I have seen quite a few interesting designs of these office parks, and I wonder what that would look like within city skylines.

Nice changes. I'm not a fan of the new plaza hack. But the some of the assets are super cool. Schools, metro stations, utilities, and the train stations are worth the pack for me. But I won't use the service point areas unless I build an entertainment district. The game will pull service vehicles from all over the map unless you use Transfer Controller to assign them districts.

I think it would be fun to have a "Planning & Zoning meeting" with us here on KZfaq. Basically you can propose a new area (doesn't have to be Verde Beach) and we can all chime in on opinion BEFORE the build. You can have "board members" from your Discord and we can be "citizens" from the city. Basically you can set it up where you can make a video describing a few plans you have for the city, release that video, and we can then submit feedback in a video format and then you can do a mock P&Z meeting where you go over the plans and then edit in videos where people gave feedback. Then you can have a vote via the board to approve or disapprove the plan etc. I think it would be fun to see. I go to all our P&Z and city council meetings in my small town. Would be cool to see at least one via KZfaq land. :)

Yoooo, changing the fly over on kellerhouse finally makes that path a less ideal spot to get mugged, only been like a year since my original comment on the danger of that path 😂😂😂

You may need a dedicated garbage service point for you pedestrian area. They are a more direct use and are used to handle bigger areas

I'd love to see an update that adds pedestrian roads with monorail or tram. Until then, you might be able to Anarchy a monorail over top of a pedestrian road.

With the modern apartments and old docks this now kinda reminds me of Marina Del Rey in Los Angeles, a place where a bunch of upper middle class people live right next to the storage docks where the ultra rich leave their yachts

With the latest episode of Clearwater County coming out 2 weeks ago and the start of a whole new series its given me plenty of time to catch back up on Verde Beach but I gotta say I really miss Clearwater County!

You should have the two bookstores across from each other a family rivalry gone haywire! Like one sibling wanted to run it one way and the other another way and they both refuse to sell until one of them admits that their way is the best way to run a bookstore.