As a white hip hop fan.. we sincerely apologize for vanilla ice… that one was on us😞😞😂😂 much love brother!👊🏻

Basically, Dotta was trying to get attention. Knox dropped a new song, Killshot [remix]. It had a John Wick scheme, which included one of JW's nicknames, bogeyman (apparently something Dotta referred to himself as) and a line "talking a Lotta dotta" (or something along those lines). Dotta took those as shots at him with Michelle Show (aka Eugene) gassing him up when he reacted to Killshot saying the 2 lines were shots at Dotta. Michelle is a reaction channel all about being a hater. Dotta was all up in Knox's comment section and other reactors talking shit about them and their fans. Dotta dropped a diss at Knox (as a response to the "diss" in Killshot), called Crown. Knox didn't respond. Dotta went up in Ren's comment section, talking more shit and basically challenged Ren. Ren agreed, and they agreed to the rules (one-take video recorded and uploaded) and dotta hesitated, saying he writes so many lyrics that he couldn't remember them all and needed his phone (which is why the beginning saying okay, one shot or whatever he says in his diss track). Dotta went first and dropped his diss to Ren, Kingdom Come. Knox dropped the Stan [remix] diss within 2 hours as a response to Kingdom Come. There was no response 24 hours later, so he dropped Patiently Waiting. Over a week later, Dotta drops 3 more diss tracks, but no lost momentum in the reaction space (I've had seen 2 reactors that reacted to them after 24 hours of 2 of the 3 dropping and haven't seen anymore).

Frankly, I'm just glad to finally find a rap reactor who knows the difference between metaphor, simile, and double entendre. Most just go with the latter, which for some reason drives me nuts.🤷‍♂️ It's only a double entendre is if one or more meaning is sexual. . Oh, sh*t, he even took shots at Scru? Didn't know that...

Wow this is fantastic Jay. Respectful, humanitarian and inclusive. Brilliant. man.

Ren and Dota didn't really have a beef. Dotta kept taking shots and making dis tracks at Rappers like Knox Hill (with 1M subs) but when this started Dotta had only 900 subs. He was just trying to provoke someone to reply. When he started on Ren - being Ren - he said sure.. I'm in. Dotta's over 3000 subs now so he's more than tripled his subs. Unfortunately most Ren fans aren't necessarily Rap specific and Dotta will need to raise his game to interest them for long.

I'm calling you Gr8fulJay from now on, because I am grateful for you. You really are special. Thank you for being you.

Ren had a number one album, it was UK number 1 when it dropped. It BEAT the Rolling Stones, biggest band in history. He did this as an independent artist - NO label backing, NO promo tours, NO tv ad drops, NO marketing. He did it all off his own back (along with talented teams around him), his talent, intellect, skill and musicality carried him to where he deserves to be. Lil Bidet or Lil Jaccuzzi or whatever he's called (micro uzi?) can drop a number 1 album in the US because he has the backing of a label and the generative bonuses that come with it. Ask him to gain 1m followers in UNDER a year AND put out an independent number one album (writing his own beats n barz and NOT use lyric and music ghostwriters?) - he couldn't do it.

"I call that a Royal Flush" 🤣🤣🤣That's one of the hardest, multi-level lines I've ever heard! This reminded me of an old schoolyard fight back in the day, knock your opponent on his ass then offer him a hand to help him back up. No backing track, ONE take. THIS is exactly why Ren is truly special. He's a genuinely decent, caring human being.

Gotta respect those who speak facts hate breeds hate, we gotta teach the ignorant, by speaking truth, fire reaction fire track

As always you speak the truth bro. And Ren himself understands where Rap music started and came from. And he always pays homage in his own way to the OG's. You'll see when you do the acoustic version of Murderer. At the end of the song Ren plays a CLASSIC Hip Hop beat on guitar and it's funny how many old heads that are reactors and claim they know everything about Hip Hop either don't pick up on the beat Ren plays, they totally get the song and artist wrong, or they just can't figure it out. I sit there screaming at my phone watching their videos "YOU IDIOTS, YOU MENTIONED TEN TIMES HE'S IN L.A. WHAT FRIGGEN RAPPER IS FROM CALIFORNIA AND L.A." haha Michelle Show is a guy named Michelle with dreads who uses a cartoon filter on his face and his whole stich is just being a hater. Almost EVERY one of his music reactions is hate. There's also rumors that Queen Dopey paid Michelle Show to pump his music and diss Ren in his reactions. So that's why Ren included him too. Michelle Shows reaction to Ren's diss was pretty funny though. Especially when he got to the part when Ren dissed him lol. But yeah all he does is hate on everything, especially white rappers and artists.

You really need to do the Knox disses. He dropped a remix of Stan where he was riffing off of the “dada dada dada” part and Dotta heard it and thought it was about him. No one knew who Dotta is, including Knox. That Michelle Show egged him on and Dotta began dissing Knox, Cliff beats, Crypt and Ren. He tried to get Knox cancelled for racism and he also tried to take his fans. Knox dropped him. Twice. REN came in after Knox just to clean up. 😂

you se King Dotta respondede for this again bat this time is verry possitive song and is calling Thank You please check that to

#Ren loves the culture and has utmost respect for it, you can hear the influences in his Hip Hop tracks. Culture ain't about colour or creed

This is the second time I've heard Dotta's diss and just caught the "no instruments" challenge, which adds another layer as to why Ren went acapella

I was 1,000,000,000% team Ren, but I've given Dotta a chance, and his music, but especially his reactions to Rens music are great! He's a good dude. They're friendly now too, which is the best part.

I haven't seen this comment yet, and I only watched what you showed but I bust out laughing at the end music because Its basically a Scottish funeral song. We played it at my grandfathers funeral. And my first instinct was to laugh because of it. Maybe its just me, but its Ren so I don't put it past him to play something to put someone to rest. Lol God thats awefuful to say isn't it.

Simply put, REN, is not a battle rapper, but he destroyed the man in ten minutes with no beat, only to show some love to the man at the end and show him the error of his ways. REN, is not a battle rapper, but he just destroyed the man with Disrespect and kindness, without a beat, and filmed live one shot. Nobody on this planet has ever done anything even close to that before.

But....Ren isn't skinny , he's ripped !

You ooze wisdom, an excellent unbiased analysis👍

As someone from the UK would say....'come on then if you think your hard enough' 😂 #H8TFULJAY love your style man, keep on keeping on brother

Dotta only had 900 subs till he took a swing at Ren, Ren kills him then gives hima leg up. Ren is class!The Michelle show was hating on Ren gave him 0/10 for Hi Ren. What a dick!

I REALLY enjoyed learning something from a man with extensive battle rap experience. I was fascinated. Thank you!!

Danish, old girl here, you have my fully respect. A bow to you, my friend. Hugs 🥰🇩🇰

Michele is the one who started this beef & instigated …

Ren killed it with love!

Simply put, Dotta is a great rapper - really. Didn't like the dude at first, but I think I understand. He's been griding for quite a bit and I think this was his shot out of desperation. MichellShow stirred the pot by propping up Dotta while ...rather subjectively saying Ren is trash (MichelleShow is actually funny ... difficult to explain). Dotta got blessed by the "Ren effect" and, to his displeasure, MichelleShow has been too 😂😂

Thank you for giving king dotta a fair chance their are a lot of reactors not doing that I respect you alot for reacting to both. And a lot of the reactors not reacting to king dottas disses are reacting to Melle Mel's diss to Eminem is way worse than King Dottas disses

To find out more about the King Dotta Knox Hill Ren battle(s), digging deep into Ren's community page might help. King Dotta dissed Knox Hill, who chose to ignore Dotta entirely. Knox had a featured song called Killshot at the time, that's where some of the references in the battles are made to. Later King Dotta dissed Ren with Kingdom Come, and in that diss, he side sniped at Knox again. Knox then came running

I wrote my last comment before watching the entire video. I’m 51 up in the rap raised in Philly. I started listening about 1984 part Gen X I thought by the 90s racial division in music was pretty much gone. It crossed over and we saw an evolutionof rap…ren speaks the truth at the end of this..higher powers want races fighting so they can’t focus on them..music is a place we’re there should never be racism

I would say Rick Ruben knows hip hop/rap talent when he sees it. Beastie Boys did a good job way back in the day breaking into the Rap game... the culture comes from inside the soul mixed with personal experience.

Skin color doesnt matter in rap. If you are born with it, if it flows through you, if it gets your blood pumping, you eat, breath, and sleep it. That means its apart of you, you are born with it inside you. Nobody owns music, nobody. When its all you know in life, all you think about, its even better when your are really good at it.

Love this, dude. You really give af. I love it.

Cut a long story short...Dotta made a Knox Diss track to no reply. A few weeks later Ren was standing up for Knox in live comments when Dotta entered the chat. Dotta and Ren agreed to do a battle rap. Knox found out Ren was fighting his battles and so made 2 back to back Dotta diss tracks the day Dotta released his Ren dis. A week later Ren released his diss. Dotta then released 2 more knox diss tracks which a MUCH better than the first knox diss. Dotta is getting attention now and rightly so. Man can rap. You should defo check out the 5 Knox x Dotta diss tracks.

Rope that video up, it's a crime scene. Ren just murdered this dude.

I'm glad you got around to doing this, and did both tracks

I think this is the order: (it’s a long process if you up for it 🤣) Killshot Remix-Knox Hill Crown-King Dotta Stan Remix-Knox Hill Patiently Waiting Remix-Knox Hill Kingdom Come-King Dotta Dumb King Come-Ren E-King Dotta Thank You- King Dotta I think all this came from Dotta wanting attention and he got it. His subs went up and now people know his name. Rap battles can make or break you but at least it gets your name out there.

thank you for reacting to this Ren is a amazing human sending big love from the UK ❤❤❤

I liked your thoughts about the origins of Rap. Respect.

Brilliant reaction and analysis. Really appreciate your perspective, great stuff!!

Well, he's now had a number one album and did it independently 💪

Thank you, I found your analysis really interesting☮

Ren raised a really good point (might have been a text post on YT, can't remember). Ren said he knows rap or hip hop is black, and has its origins in the black community, much in the same way that fish and chips is very much an English meal. Either way, it doesn't stop people putting their own twist on it, enjoying it. Somewhere, he said he really enjoyed Dotta's diss because it reminded him of the music he listened to growing up

I’m going to give everybody a lesson .as white kid growing up in Philly and started listening too rap in 1984 .there have been many white rappers that embodied the culture…the beastie boys ,house of pain ,3rd base joe two tuff from tuff crew was a white dj in tuff crew..that’s just from the 80’s…it may have started in the hood in the late 70’s but by the end of the 80’s like all good things culture wasn’t just in the hood of New York it was submerged into the suburbs..we started getting kids that listened to metal and rap who would start bringing the music too a different level..ren is a guy who is part of the evolution of rap..

I ducks with you. You caught the Of Mice and Men reference.

Love the passion. Respect. Subbed

1st reactor who has mentioned its racism! Good show !

Appreciate you bro. Always top notch reactions

My favorite part is the one with the Tales of the trilogy 🔥. Great reaction!

Always love your reactions

Great reaction as always. MichelleShow is a youtube hater, who really doesn't like Ren at all.

Your honesty 😍 I see a lot of humour between both Dotta n Ren enjoyed..

#thepausefactory @h8tfuljay FACTS!

I just subscribed because this man is 100% real

As far as I can see King Blotta is like an actual blotter, he tries to soak up spilled ink from those doing far better than himself, he is simply trying to hook himself a ride. The only credit I give Blotta is he has just dropped a "Thank You" track. So he gets some kudos for respecting the gift Ren just gave him. He does not deserve it, nor does he deserve respect for the underhand way he has gone about this diss crap. Respect for your analysis Jay.

Thanks!

Music is universal, nice reaction love uk

Mice and Men...thank you! Not many have caught it.

Much love ❤️ Sue

You Cease to Exist ,is 5 syllables 😂😂😂

Enjoy your vids.

Personally I just can’t focus on Dotta’s rapping. I have tried multiple times in reactions. My ADHD brain just can’t with the monotone cadence and boring flows. Maybe I have just been too spoiled by Ren’s constant switch ups and personality in the delivery 😅 Necromancer Ren absolutely defiled the corpse Knox left him and then turned around to make love, not war, to it 🤣 And I fucking love how he was cracking up and apologising. Ren had fun with this! But also used it as an opportunity to fight for change by killing with kindness. This is why we love him and why the world needs him ❤ The Ren that we know sick boi with sick flows spreading love not hate when he steps up to the plate the goat in his rabbit hole with a strong and beautiful soul he deserves all the support after the light he shone for us 🐐🐰🕳️ #RENegade

Dotto insulted REN, he is just replying to that. REN won hands down with talent, genius& kindness& then he let it go Don’t mess with REN, he is too clever. Have no intention of subscripting to Dotto, but in true REN fashion, he is a beautiful human being. Love you man ❤

Well said Jay 👏🇬🇧

I get the impression that Ren and him wanted to go at it rap battle style. They ain’t got personal heat so seems unprompted.

Well said.

I have so much respect for you and the way you articulate yourself. Great reaction 👏

Gotta hit the 2 Knox Hill diss tracks before Rens my guy

Dotta thought he was dissed on knoxhille killshot there went back and forth then ren was dragged into it not sure how now I think it's over tbh there was some good tracks all round knox put out probably some of his best tracks and dotta also put out some dope tracks too it was pretty good all round we all enjoyed watching the disses and think they had fun also all what matters ❤ also michelleshow is a channel big hater but pretty funny too

thank you for my time, Jay! peace love strength

I’m late to the party did you do a reaction on Knox that shit was tough he destroyed Dotta. To be honest Ryan took them down too, but Aaron was so cool at the end he got some followers, so I guess it was a good on his part but now he started doing reactions mainly his friends and does a very good job he’s a lot of props and keeps it 100 so His plan was to get more followers at worked

Michelle show will probably make an episode of you sooner or later so might wanna watch a few episodes and know what you're in for lmao 😂

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Do the Knox diss. As someone on the edge of the culture I like what people who live the culture have to say.

I understand this statement. But you have to ask. "How many brothers/sisters/others, still bounce when they hear the intro to ice ice baby?" Just saying, "make your mark" sounds like a better bar with a lesson for blessin.

REN turned Dotta’s dis completely on its head. This was simply genius.

King Daughter had less than 1000 subscribers when he dropped his Knox and Ren Diss tracks! Highly recommend ya watch his his interview with Rosalie! He describes his thoughts on the culture! Search for that part... many have covered it alone even! FYI... he's dropping Love Music pt 4 in 3 days... first 3 are Great! Just saying! Lol

I like how Dotta can keep one and the same flow over several minutes.

The media and the government want us all divided . In decision we don’t blame them. Your right Ren tells his own story to rise everyone else. Dotta thought he was dissed by Knox. So he dissed him back after Knox, said he didn’t even know him. He dissed REN for no reason at all. 😘😘😘😘

While Dotta was doing his lines, Ren took his bars and bricked him. Yes, thats a double entendre.

15:00 ❤❤❤

One wants to be 2pac the other loves music

🎶🎶❤️🎶🎶

Ren put bagpipes cos Scotland needs independence. Everything he does is so briliantly layered. He kens that putting bagpipes on anything is a call to arms, but also a call to the most loved white westerners, guilty of awful atrociities but with an english gun to our backs.

Michele show is a Chanel

The bagpipes at the beginning and end is a traditional UK funeral song. I thought you gave a fair reaction to both Dotta and Ren.

Dotta versus Knox is where this is at. Dotta's newest 3 drops at Knox are pretty nasty.

Be your highest good.

You are missing the simple fact that alot of dotta bars where ren song names. But you did an amaz8ng job

I'm guessing that Ren hopes that this helps Dottas career(considering how much he assist people reacting to his music). sounds strange but yeah, he's doing it for good. Also, you just have to accept a duel

The fact he started dissing Ren and Knox hill while he sat at 800 subs and all this was created at the Michelle show full of haters, there’s not much to understand 😂. Great reaction bro

fucking true talk here

Ren is called Ren Gill. Thats what thats about. But rens comeback is a little more intelligent 😘

Ren got a #1 UK album! ❤❤ #sickboialbum

When I first heard of this battle...Dotta had like 79 subs. That was before Ren responded.

It was black music, it isn't anymore just like Jazz, ROCK and roll ect.. Everything evolves

Yes, the really great artists live for their work; it feels like they are born to do what they do. Race, nationality or gender are irrelevant when it comes to ability, but not opportunity, sadly.

You kept asking why, which is a legit question. Imo...because Dotta had 800 subs and no traction at all anywhere after many years doin this. So he just started commenting on others videos and manufacturing a beef with anyone on the come up...Knox...Ren...anyone who had more than 1k followers. And probably paid Michelle to hype his stuff and apperently it worked for at least a minute🤷

Knox Hill has 2 diss tracks as well.

This whole shit with dotta pissed me off, I LOVED old school rap in the early 90’s. There just hasn’t been anything original that I’ve heard that has captured that spirit like ren’s art. I don’t give a fuck “who” or “what” race does it. There just hasn’t been. Not as original and artistic as him anyways. REN’s is bringing the “culture” forward no matter the race. The art of it is being brought to another level. That’s all that matters, as this is about the art form. Nothing else.

From what I heard, Dotta thought Knox was dissing him on his Killshot song (I don’t think he was). Then it turned into drama. But I think Dotta just wanted to get some traction because he had barely any subs/views on his channel, so what better way to get noticed then go after Ren who just hit 1 million subscribers. Just my opinion.