This is Not the Flag of Ukraine.*

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Tapakapa

Tapakapa

10 ай бұрын

The flag of Ukraine is a simple one; until you put a trident on there. Then, the whole thing gets a lot more complicated.
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@Tapakapa
@Tapakapa 10 ай бұрын
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@death-istic9586
@death-istic9586 10 ай бұрын
Hi.
@catmacopter8545
@catmacopter8545 10 ай бұрын
what font do you use in your videos?
@diarserouy
@diarserouy 10 ай бұрын
This is the first time I have heard that anyone who doesn't speak Ukrainian have such a good pronunciation!
@MinorLife10
@MinorLife10 10 ай бұрын
As a Ukrainian, I am grateful for this video. Also, I would like to suggest looking into the Ukrainian Large coat of arms topic. It is pretty obscure, yet interesting
@Validoleech
@Validoleech 10 ай бұрын
XX century's story of Ukraine is MUCH MUCH more complex than a couple of seconds (also, quite explains why Russian authorities and supporters think they have a rightful claim to "free Ukraine)". It was a comprex process that Lenin allowed to happen (he was a so-we-call an foreign agent for Russian Empire, heavily budgeted from outside the state) so he could create «natural» proxy states to place Soviet Russia inside of them, so politics with other countries and especially wars could be much much harder to start. In that way, if something like Germany (not the way they did it lol) started a war with Russia, they would need to justify a war against one of proxy states: Ukraine, Belarus, you name it. It would at least buy time for Russia's main forces, as for Lenin's plan, USSR was not planned to be so united and those countries would get decent levels of autonomy which would also make development of states better. As for current state borders, the cituation gets worse for Ukrainian sovereignty. Partly their west terrotiers belong to Poland. You can also literally draw a line between East Ukraine, heavily and mostly identifying themselves as maloros', West Ukraine, acquiring their identity in last days of USSR (and they basically seizured power without asking the Eastern part - and did it twice, in 1990 and in 2013) and a conflicted middle part (like Odessa), where you can find half people heavy pro-Ukrainian and other are (were) pro-russian. Which is ALSO a consequence of Lenin's state creation politics and Stalin's korenizatsiia, which was cancelled due to separatism and bad stability and unity between people when the second war with Germany started to become a question of time. Not to mention White movement which tried to do it's best to at least re-create Siberian Republic if not to whiten all USSR territories. And current government acted a lot like if French in Canada claimed that Canada is for French Canadians and English Canadians are occupants. As for times of Russian Empire, yellow-blue color belonged to cossacs in the first place, and then was part of Galicia, modern partly Poland-Ukraine. As for times of Kievian Rus, it was always just Rus (or Russia, or Ruthenia), but named by modern historians to divide Rus in times before XV century and Russia after unitication of lands. Ukrainian identity was not here at all, not any of modern identities too. In that time modern Ukraine lands were mostly held by nomads polovtsi. And there was a long of unification until Peter I proclaimed Russian Empire. And you could find enough autonomy in Russian Poland and Grand Duchy of Finland only. The others just positioned themselves as Russians, except for new Siberian lands, which were so big and uncontrollable so there was no way to call everyone here russian. Autonomy of those peoples are still here today.
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 10 ай бұрын
Congratulations to Niederösterreich for having a flag easy to confuse with Ukraine. And then Upper Austria looks like Poland and Steiermark looks like Saxony
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 10 ай бұрын
Oh, and Salzburg and Vienna look like Indonesia.
@quuaaarrrk8056
@quuaaarrrk8056 10 ай бұрын
At least Tyrol has a unique flag.
@kyokazuto
@kyokazuto 10 ай бұрын
Nah, lower Austrian flag is blue gold
@dinfighter8415
@dinfighter8415 10 ай бұрын
​@@robertjarman3703 dude when i learned the flags of austrian federal states i was so confused
@pikminlord343
@pikminlord343 10 ай бұрын
Good video
@hydra70
@hydra70 10 ай бұрын
You're missing a key factor. The trident is also used in the emblem of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. That's probably the biggest reason it's appearing more during war time.
@Uzyvan6
@Uzyvan6 10 ай бұрын
And a lot In religion which is why it’s in a lot of houses
@JmKrokY
@JmKrokY 9 ай бұрын
Ok
@farkon00
@farkon00 9 ай бұрын
@@Uzyvan6 Trident in religion? I am not sure what are you talking about, because here in Ukraine it's not connected to religion in anyway. As I am not a particularly religious person I googled some symbols of PCU(not to be confused with UPC MP, which is a russian propaganda tool) and it does not include a Tryzub.
@Uzyvan6
@Uzyvan6 9 ай бұрын
@@farkon00 I mean most churches at least the ones I went to, had put up their flags with the trident and in some places it’s used as a symbol.
@victorsamsung2921
@victorsamsung2921 9 ай бұрын
The trident is also an *emblem* for the Khazarian Mafia. You can look it up.
@cubeofdestiny
@cubeofdestiny 10 ай бұрын
idk, in Poland we do similar thing with putting a coat of arms on a flag, officially it's used for embassies, airports, naval vessels civilian and military, but day to day you can see it on like football games and stuff, I think it's more likelly that people just like to have different flags and symbols, than this stuff about connection to an ancient empire
@YaPinGYouTu
@YaPinGYouTu 10 ай бұрын
It is exactly that. It was always like that in Ukraine - before the war, too. Coat of arms is just one of widely recognised symboles of Ukraine, it is used everywhere, on administrative buildings, on passports, etc. Would be weird to run around with flag in one hand and coat of arms in the other, so people just combined those.
@SergioEduP
@SergioEduP 10 ай бұрын
​@@YaPinGYouTuand since it is a pretty simple and sleek design it fits right in, some coats of arms are way too detailled and don't look great on flags, even some official ones are simplified by the citizens for that reason.
@petrkdn8224
@petrkdn8224 10 ай бұрын
Coat of arms is rarely used in Czechia on the flag but ive seen it. it looks odd but im fine with it.
@ashaler__
@ashaler__ 10 ай бұрын
yeah, i just put the tryzub on the flag because it looks better and stands out more, plus i feel using it is a better way to show that i actually am ukrainian rather than simply supporting it, because it can be hard to tell what with the flag everywhere nowadays
@KYR_MAN
@KYR_MAN 9 ай бұрын
If you go to the Ukrainian Wikipedia and look at the history of the flags of Ukraine, you will be surprised how many are there.
@catmacopter8545
@catmacopter8545 10 ай бұрын
"tryzub" directly translates to "three teeth", just like "tri-dent"
@draniki1352
@draniki1352 10 ай бұрын
dent does mean "tooth" in latin after all lol
@sillysad3198
@sillysad3198 9 ай бұрын
@@draniki1352 danning Kruger is proud of you!
@Starlit_Juno
@Starlit_Juno 8 ай бұрын
I LOVE ETYMOLOGY :3
@duoblade332
@duoblade332 6 ай бұрын
@@sillysad3198 I mean ‘dientes’ is teeth in spanish
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA Ай бұрын
OH, I never thought that the DENT in tri-dent means a zub! XD
@underarmbowlingincidentof1981
@underarmbowlingincidentof1981 10 ай бұрын
I always thought it was just their coat of arms tbh. Probably it just looks cool and is easily identified and thats why its used. I mean in Ukraine itself it was plastered on a lot of buildings like operas even before the war and before the invasion in the 2010s. I mean technically Germanys Eagle on its coat of arms also comes from the Holy Roman Empire and they took it from the Roman Empire so technically the Eagle Germany has is also the one used by like a handful other nations.... but who tf cares about that right? lol.
@cubeofdestiny
@cubeofdestiny 10 ай бұрын
similarly in Poland you can see versions of a flag with coat of arms on it during football games and stuff, the eagle it's just cool
@cyan_oxy6734
@cyan_oxy6734 10 ай бұрын
But it's different with the German eagle as it's not a double headed.
@ONI_002
@ONI_002 10 ай бұрын
the "Roman Eagle" is/was used by so many countries that it literally doesnt matter
@allsides5626
@allsides5626 10 ай бұрын
I kind of understand it to be a coat of arm. Like lots of other countries do! For us in Bangladesh for example we have water lily and wheat stripes. I have seen them used next to our flag but never embed into our flag like Ukraine. I guess that's kind of the part confuses the whole court of arm part
@toast2300
@toast2300 10 ай бұрын
​@@cyan_oxy6734the bundesadler, or the single headed eagle in general has been the symbol of a unified Germany since it's creation (be it Prussian style or modern). The double headed eagle represents the holy Roman empire, a time of disunity in Germany so I'm fairly certain they wouldn't want to identify with that, rather than the single headed one. Also very important to note is that before the adoption of the double headed eagle, the early Holy Roman Empire had a Single headed eagle too, so it's more historic
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 10 ай бұрын
Something else to note regarding the history of the Ukrainian flag: The color shades changed. The Ukrainian People's Republic flag had a sky-blue and light-yellow shade! When the Soviet Union collapsed, it retained these shades. This changed in 1992 to a slightly darker blue and yellow, before making the shades even darker in 2006 and the flag has stayed the same since then. Blue-yellow banners were one of the banners used by Cossacks between the 16th and 18th centuries. Yellow and blue were the colors common on coats of arms in Galicia, what's now southeastern Poland and northwestern Ukraine. Here's the background of its anthem: It's a slightly modified version of the first verse and chorus of "Shche ne vmerla Ukraina" (or Ukraine has not yet perished), written in 1862 by prominent ethnographer Pavlo Chubynskyi. In 1863, Mykhailo Verbytskyi, a Ukrainian composer and Greek Catholic priest, composed music to accompany Chubynskyi's lyrics. Chubynskyi wrote the lyrics spontaneously after listening to Serbian students singing Svetozar Miletić's "Srpska pesma" (Serbian song) during a gathering of Serbian and Ukrainian students in a Kyiv apartment. What is now the Polish anthem influenced his lyrics as well, and the January Uprising happened a few months after Chubynskyi wrote it.
@nonameuserua
@nonameuserua 10 ай бұрын
I like the current shade 🥰💙💛 it’s just simply cool
@SunIsLost
@SunIsLost 10 ай бұрын
Interesting
@cjoy1604
@cjoy1604 10 ай бұрын
Yeah and there was a flipped version of the flag
@oleksiivoloshyn4194
@oleksiivoloshyn4194 10 ай бұрын
​​@@cjoy1604Actually,no, it is just a myth
@cjoy1604
@cjoy1604 10 ай бұрын
@@oleksiivoloshyn4194 it's not a myth, This was a flag sometimes used by some members Ukrainian government from 1917 to 1920
@happyelephant5384
@happyelephant5384 10 ай бұрын
My hypothesis as Ukrainian: it just looks sort of cool, and nobody really care what to use. Like, I never thought about "versions" of flag. They are pretty haphazard. Nobody really intends to really emphasize or convey any meaning using these combinations of flag and trident. There is a more epic story of trident, though. The trident officially only a minore part of a bigger coat of arms, not the coat of arms itself. Why you haven't seen another coat of arms? It doesn't exist (almost). It was to be designed and approved since 1996 but almost other more important things to do, so we still live without it. In 2021 there was an official competition of proposed designs, and one even won ( just to be totally mocked by like everyone), but I have no idea what happened with the process and if it moves somewhere:)
@KartingRules
@KartingRules 10 ай бұрын
I like the full CoA of Ukraine tho
@familygash7500
@familygash7500 10 ай бұрын
I mean you can pretty much find any country flag with their coat of arms/emblem slapped on it, like with The Russian, Polish and German flags, just to name a few.
@sillysad3198
@sillysad3198 9 ай бұрын
the fun part of this story is that russian coat of arms colours do not correspond to the flag colours :) :) ridiculous people!
@macanaeh
@macanaeh 8 ай бұрын
Speaking of the Russian flag with the coat of arms on it. Many people, even most Russians, don't actually know it's signification, and yet it is the most commonly sold version inside of Russia. Well, the reason for it is quite simple, this version of the flag is the Presidential Flag of Russia, the so called "Presidential Standard". So by selling mostly those, they create a visibility of support for the president, rather than the country, which is a distinction Putin has been trying to erase for a long time now
@RaffGoodman
@RaffGoodman 21 күн бұрын
@@macanaeh lol what? Putin? As mentioned above, you can find flags with coat of arms in many countries, it is quite popular concept. A flag with a coat of arms (and often with inscription "Россия") has always been sold in Russia.
@macanaeh
@macanaeh 21 күн бұрын
@@RaffGoodman You should research it a bit further, a coat of arms on the flag is most usually used by different parts of the government or as a representation of the government itself. The one I was talking about is called the "Presidencial standard" or "Президентский штандарт", it represents the office of the president
@RaffGoodman
@RaffGoodman 21 күн бұрын
@@macanaeh yeah, I know about presidential flag. What's your problem with it? Different countries has such flags.
@AntonPavlovich2000
@AntonPavlovich2000 10 ай бұрын
There's no single inheritor to Rus. All three countries share its history. The trident itself is older, modern Ukraine uses a certain trident from coins during Yaroslaw the Wise's reign, as it was the Golden age of Rus and it also looks nice. There are coins made during Oleg or Yaropolk etc. and they have double edged or triple edged figures similar to that, probably dating back to Khazarian symbols (nomads who controlled Kiev\Kyiv before Rus). That's a very old thing.
@Programmdude
@Programmdude 10 ай бұрын
It's like saying that Italy is the sole inheritor of the Roman Empire. It isn't. France and Spain also have Roman history, as well as Greece (eastern roman empire), Germany (holy roman empire), and probably some more I've missed out on. So, just like the fact that france (well, the land at least) being historically part of the roman empire isn't a good enough for italy to invade them, Ukraine also being descended from Rus isn't a good reason for Russia to invade them either.
@D3ND
@D3ND 10 ай бұрын
​@@Programmdudecool story bro, but that is in no way connected to the comment you're replying to.
@cameroonemperor755
@cameroonemperor755 10 ай бұрын
Idk why that's even a debate, it's not like there's no country sharing history with another. Like the Franks etc
@eastorm2463
@eastorm2463 10 ай бұрын
Full bullshit about Khazarian and Kyiv, we don't have a single proof about it except russian pseudo-historian.
@The-Devils-Advocate
@The-Devils-Advocate 10 ай бұрын
@@D3NDit kinda is though. They were adding an example in agreement with the notion of the original comment.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 10 ай бұрын
Since you mentioned Belarus briefly, here's the history behind their interesting flag: The current design was introduced in 2012 by the State Committee for Standardisation of the Republic of Belarus, and is adapted from a design approved in a May 1995 referendum. It is a modification of the 1951 flag used while the country was a republic of the Soviet Union. Changes made to the Soviet-era flag were the removal of communist symbols as well as the reversal of the colors in the ornament pattern. In 2012, the pattern was changed to be thicker. The decorative pattern was originally designed in 1917 by Matrona Markevich. The pattern, derived from local plants and flowers, is a traditional type commonly used in Belarus. These patterns are sometimes used in woven garments, most importantly in the traditional ruchnik, a woven cloth used for ceremonial events like religious services, funerals, and other more minor social functions, such as a host offering guests bread and salt served on a ručnik. The husband of Matrona Markevich was arrested for anti-Soviet propaganda and executed during Soviet repression in Belarus in 1937, after which the family was dekulakised. The original ruchnik has not survived and was either confiscated by the NKVD in 1937 or destroyed during WWII.
@AvrahamYairStern
@AvrahamYairStern 10 ай бұрын
Thanks to you comment, I just had to look up dekulakization and ended up down a rabbit hole of readong about early Soviet policies and subsequently learning a lot more about their atrocities. Thank you!
@AvrahamYairStern
@AvrahamYairStern 10 ай бұрын
As a second comment, I'd like to point out that most Belarusians reject this modern flag and prefer the white-red-white one as it represents a democratic Belarus.
@happyelephant5384
@happyelephant5384 10 ай бұрын
I feel there should somewhere be white-red-white version in the story of Belarusian flag
@borelespork4510
@borelespork4510 10 ай бұрын
@@AvrahamYairStern Dekulakization was in simple terms the elimination of the group of big landownes that controlled a sizeable chunk of the Soviet grain economy during the early 1900-houndreds. This was mainly because the kulaks threatened the power structure of the country and manufactured small scale famines as to force the Soviet govourment to sell land and buy the kulak grain on the condition of the kulaks. The kulaks also partook in terrorism and other actions of violence to ensure their power. The Soviet govourment did not like this and therefore used it as an excuse to be extra violent in certain parts of Ukraine, arrestering anyone who could be a possible kulak collaborator which would become something that the Soviets are heavily criticized for today, especially by the far right who have even developed conspiracy theories that link the Soviet govourments conflict with the kulaks to the Soviet famine of the 1930's. The kulaks were in essence a contradiction to what kind of society that the Soviet union wanted to build and were therefore neutralized and turned inte martyrs for nationalistic elements in Ukraine until today. It's quite interesting but hard to understand history as it's ridden with propaganda and lack of primary sources. The moral of the kulak story was that the Soviet govourment tried to extinguish forces that they saw as a national threat but with said action later on backfiring during World War 2 (with the Nazi invasion) and later on in the 1980's and 90's with the growing national groups.
@draniki1352
@draniki1352 10 ай бұрын
@@happyelephant5384 it was originally used in the short lived 1918 Belarusian People's Republic (BNR/BPR) and later by the Belarusian Rada in exile (Rada is basically the government). In 1991 the flag was again changed to white red white after gaining independence from the soviet union and lasted a few years before Lukashenko's regime started, ever since then it has been the symbol of the resistance movement. I'm not really sure where its inspiration comes from but one of the ideas I've heard was, war banners used by the military force in present day Belarusian parts of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.
@FlickazSwag
@FlickazSwag 10 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for a video on my country from you for so long :D
@CreamTheEverythingFixer
@CreamTheEverythingFixer 10 ай бұрын
Well it is a flag of Ukraine, its the naval presidential standard. It also appears frequently with other Ukrainian naval elements as well. Edit: Seeing how there is so much speculation I am just going to Occam's razor this, the use of the presidential naval flag can mostly be attributed to fact Zelensky probably liked the look of it and used it.
@its_defe
@its_defe 10 ай бұрын
if I had a symbol as cool as that I would also want to show it off
@mykytafil7160
@mykytafil7160 10 ай бұрын
To be more confusing, tryzub is only a "small" coat of arms. Constitution presumes the existence of the "big" one, which .... still doesn't exist.
@risannd
@risannd 10 ай бұрын
How about the one with cossacks on the side?
@mykytafil7160
@mykytafil7160 10 ай бұрын
@@risannd It's a winner of national contest, but hasn't been approved officially
@zaq20077
@zaq20077 10 ай бұрын
I am really surprised that Ukraine don't have an official flag with their coat of arms as we do (Polish flag with coat of arms on it). It seems like something is missing in my opinion, they should make it official.
@shwabb1
@shwabb1 10 ай бұрын
There are two most common ways to incorporate the coat of arms into the flag (as shown in the video), the question now is: which one to use?
@Hexagonian
@Hexagonian 10 ай бұрын
@@shwabb1 The corner one looks cheezy. Keep it in the middle
@CreamTheEverythingFixer
@CreamTheEverythingFixer 10 ай бұрын
They do, its found mostly with the naval forces. Check out the naval flags of Ukraine and good chuck have the Ukrainian flag with coat of arms plastered on the centre
@zaq20077
@zaq20077 10 ай бұрын
@@CreamTheEverythingFixer I did not mean naval flag, just a variant of national flag, not army, presidental, or any other.
@nothernstar2576
@nothernstar2576 10 ай бұрын
@@shwabb1 as far as I(a Ukrainian) know, the version in the middle is much more popular and widespread, so i guess it would be that one, if we get around to doing it
@J3ff_K1ng
@J3ff_K1ng 10 ай бұрын
Dude I've just get engaged on your channel 40 min ago and I've been watching your videos only for like 40 Mim and you upload right on my marathon fucking crazy
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 10 ай бұрын
Speaking of Belarus, you could make a video explaining why Belarusian opposition and diaspora uses different flag than the regime. Together with the coat of arms called Pahonia, which is a variant of the same coat of arms that Lithuania uses (but Lithuanians call it Vytis).
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 10 ай бұрын
@@saraj2995 Yes, I know. That's why I think it would be a worthy topic for an interesting video.
@kefyrass
@kefyrass 10 ай бұрын
@@saraj2995I mean it really is coppied, Lithuanians used Vytis for a long time, and belarussians appeared quite recently
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 10 ай бұрын
@@saraj2995 BTW I've also seen this cool modified design of the Belarusian white-red-white flag, with added Tryzub combined with the Columns of Gediminas.
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 10 ай бұрын
@@kefyrass They obviously didn't suddenly appear out of thin air. The term Belarusians in the modern sense might be relatively recent, but the people that we call that existed much longer. They were the East Slavic/Ruthenian population of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which was a multiethnic and multilingual polity for basically all of its existence. There is a good chance that at the very least the double cross on the shield held by the knight depicted on Vytis/Pahonia/Pogoń is actually of Ruthenian origin, possibly coming from the earlier tradition of the Principality of Polotsk (Cross of Saint Euphrosyne).
@stannumowl
@stannumowl 10 ай бұрын
​​​@@kefyrasscopied from whom? Independent Lithuania has used Vytis since 1918. Belarusian People's Republic used Pahonia since 1918. Or you are talking about the Grand Duchy of Lithuania? (common ancestor of both) upd. Rechecked the dates
@fidmond
@fidmond 10 ай бұрын
We like our Trident, so we throw it on the flag sometimes, with no reason whatsoever :) Thank you for the video ✌️🇺🇦
@the_mad_fool
@the_mad_fool 10 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity, does the fact it's prominent on the AFU flag and shoulder patches influence its use? Like do you see it more often in a military or combative context than in a purely civilian role?
@ayararesara6253
@ayararesara6253 10 ай бұрын
@@the_mad_fool it's used everywhere as a country symbol first. And military trident looks different.
@the_mad_fool
@the_mad_fool 10 ай бұрын
@@ayararesara6253 Holy crap I never noticed they were different! My brain went full Mandela effect on me with that.
@paulseed1065
@paulseed1065 9 ай бұрын
I like my trident, i got a silver chain and all. its great. people think its a cross. (its better....... so much better)
@aiden1156
@aiden1156 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely cool video! Some Ukrainian perspective here to add 👋: Our flag used with the coat of arms basically....because it looks cool. We love Tryzub, it is simple yet so satisfting to see but I don`t really percieve that in most cases it is used to lay any historic claim. In our legislation it is officially named "The kingdom symbol of the Volodymyr the Great" and generally everyone knows that this symbol means, but but but... we have to take into account that Tryzub was used as one of main symbols of Ukrainian nation since national revolutions in Europe, so I really think that contextual scales in this case are on the side of "national symbol", rather than on "means of laying claim in the past" for most of the people. Still, Tryzub implies Rus historic period, and it is generally important since Ukrainians rejects russian "the only true Rus descendant" myth (this myth causes tonns of chauvinism for other slavic nations, let alone this war). I don`t know who are you and where you from, but thanks for reading all of this ❤
@13gan
@13gan 10 ай бұрын
I don't think the Russian are claiming that they are the "true descendants of the Rus" rather that it lay claim as the continuation of the old kingdoms of Rus since Russia itself means "land of Rus" and the fact that all tribes of Rus were once united under 1 empire (Tsardom of Russia). It's like how Germany and France claimed descent from the empire that Charlemagne built (which is the original root cause they have been at war with each other since the Middle Age after the division of the empire up to WW1 and WW2).
@justind4615
@justind4615 10 ай бұрын
what do you mean? tell me in short-term@@13gan
@13gan
@13gan 10 ай бұрын
@@justind4615 Sorry, I don't understand what you meant by "what do you mean". Do you mean like the history of Charlemagne and it's connection with Germany and France or Ukraine and Russia claiming descent from the Rurikid (the origin of the symbol)?
@justind4615
@justind4615 10 ай бұрын
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@thebigsam
@thebigsam 10 ай бұрын
The only true Rus descendant? Who the fuck ever said that?
@chang1865
@chang1865 10 ай бұрын
The Ukrainian pronounciation of the trident word is so similar to the sanskrit word for trident it blows my mind.
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 9 ай бұрын
Ukrainian and Sanskrit are quite different, but not as far apart as most people would assume. They are both "Satem" languages. They diverged from "Centum" languages (Celtic, Germanic, and Italic) before they diverged from each other, so they share a lot of similarities which they don't share with Western European languages, despite having developed separately for thousands of years.
@irdorath356
@irdorath356 22 күн бұрын
Well they both are members of the Indo-European language tree for a reason.
@Bogdanko93
@Bogdanko93 10 ай бұрын
Nah, it's simpler than it is. People just like to put their coat of arm on their flag. It's not that unusual to see.
@chopyouup
@chopyouup 10 ай бұрын
Great video amd topic!
@andrewrockwell1282
@andrewrockwell1282 10 ай бұрын
Informative. I like the trident, i think it looks cool.
@maunz5791
@maunz5791 10 ай бұрын
Here in Germany the national flag showing the coat of arms is called the "Bundesdienstflagge", the flag of federal service. It is used by government offices and authorities like federal police and military. Like the name suggests it symbolizes the service for the country - so maybe it is something similar in Ukraine?
@kenster8270
@kenster8270 9 ай бұрын
I thin it's the same with the Austrian and Polish flags, as well as the flags of certain German states: the use of an official emblem superimposed onto the flag sim ply indicates that the flag is flown by governing institutions. It's also somewhat similar to how Scandinavian flags are sometimes swallow-tailed when flown by the military or the royals.
@gonvillebromhead2865
@gonvillebromhead2865 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if the general flag design might also be a reason - when on a flagpole indoors or without wind, the top "blue" will fall over the bottom "yellow" causing one to just see the blue portion of the flag. The trident makes it clear it is Ukrainian. Other bicolours do similar, such as Poland (although they do have official versions with the coat of arms)
@RoboMarchello
@RoboMarchello 10 ай бұрын
Really interesting, thank you for the video!!
@NizhnyBall
@NizhnyBall 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@brunovb2650
@brunovb2650 10 ай бұрын
The trident looks so cool
@rin_etoware_2989
@rin_etoware_2989 10 ай бұрын
it should be mentioned, of course, that "flag with coat of arms" is a common flag variant in Europe, even though many countries have laws restricting use of those flags. Poland, for example, restricts the use of their _National Flag with Coat of Arms_ to embassies and civilian planes and ships, but many people use it anyways. Germany, meanwhile, strictly restricts the use of any flag with the German government's coat of arms on it. flags with the German coat of arms on it, however, are fair game for everyone.
@MigamuveKollek
@MigamuveKollek 10 ай бұрын
Can you please make a video on 🇱🇰's flag and historical flags?
@Kaspa969
@Kaspa969 9 ай бұрын
It's normal to see flag (with are just colorfull stripes) with countries coat of arms on it. It's like 2 in 1. For example: Germany, Bulgaria, Poland, Lithuania, Italy or Hungary.
@mrmunchkin2181
@mrmunchkin2181 10 ай бұрын
1:37 Absolute mad lad, I loved when this video was posted.
@TPL970
@TPL970 10 ай бұрын
A high quality content 😎👍
@user-cd4bx6uq1y
@user-cd4bx6uq1y 10 ай бұрын
1:38 that was great
@a.n.6374
@a.n.6374 10 ай бұрын
We have a similar issue with the Bulgarian one. A non-official with the coat of arms appears often.
@ris_kis
@ris_kis 10 ай бұрын
Дякую за цікаве відео. Thanks for the exciting video.
@aldrinmilespartosa1578
@aldrinmilespartosa1578 10 ай бұрын
I thought it would just a coat of arms but if they have like to change their flag someday adding it would be lit.
@Hung-Ly
@Hung-Ly 10 ай бұрын
can't wait until you explain Azovs flag
@Hung-Ly
@Hung-Ly 10 ай бұрын
@@Abulb99 ahh the "Hero's" Genocidal Barbarians is a better Title I think
@Hung-Ly
@Hung-Ly 10 ай бұрын
@@Abulb99 (are Also Neo-Nazis but ignore that part and have killed dozens of Ethnic Russians but ignore that part)
@Hung-Ly
@Hung-Ly 10 ай бұрын
@@Abulb99 how do we know they are Neo-Nazis? maybe the Swastika in their flag helps you are Supporting an Evil force for if Azov didn't start killing Ethnic Russians Russia wouldn't of involved itself
@machinegewehrUIA
@machinegewehrUIA 9 ай бұрын
​@@Hung-LyAzov is a volunteer formation, after 2014, when Russia had already attacked))). I advise you to compare their symbol, this is I + N, this is not a wolf hook, about "ethnic Russians" I can say with 100% certainty that you have never read about specific cases of this, because during the conflict everyone suffers, especially near the front, they give out fighting for genocide, especially unilateral genocide - manipulation..
@Hung-Ly
@Hung-Ly 9 ай бұрын
@@machinegewehrUIA 2014 the Ukraine started Ethnic cleansing of Russians. Resistance groups popped up and fought back Russia gave aid but didn't get directly involved until Crimea and once again more recently both sides are wrong but the Ukrainians are more wrong for not owning up to their horrible acts
@utvpoop
@utvpoop 10 ай бұрын
It looks like at 1:44 it's just the coat of arms and a photo of a wheat field and sky kinda resembling the flag.
@user-oo5fi4zp7l
@user-oo5fi4zp7l 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact: Ukrainian coat of arms also says the word "воля" which translates as "freedom". It might be hard to see it at first tho
@dimadilemma
@dimadilemma 10 ай бұрын
"воля" mean more than freedom
@shiehuapiaopiao
@shiehuapiaopiao 10 ай бұрын
In russian воля means "will" as in god's will or "freedom"
@vitaliitomas8121
@vitaliitomas8121 10 ай бұрын
Oh you can pull whole Ukrainian alphabet out of it and it's goddamn glorius
@albaraqahtani
@albaraqahtani 10 ай бұрын
@@vitaliitomas8121Cyrillic alphabet* There’s no such thing as ukrainian or russian alphabets at all.
@vitaliitomas8121
@vitaliitomas8121 10 ай бұрын
@@albaraqahtani there is. The difference is just few letters, but a difference nonetheless
@mihailos8701
@mihailos8701 10 ай бұрын
As Ukrainian, I can say that this video is well done. Thanks sir
@GeneralWinter9
@GeneralWinter9 9 ай бұрын
Ukrafascist
@pygmyrhino8049
@pygmyrhino8049 8 ай бұрын
@@GeneralWinter9ruzzian
@mewosh_
@mewosh_ 10 ай бұрын
Poland also sometimes puts it's coat of arms on its flag.
@volodyadykun6490
@volodyadykun6490 10 ай бұрын
I don't think flag with trident is about Kyivan Rus, although yeah it's probably just stronger version. Bicolor is great but why not decorate more unofficially, there are a lot of flags made of bands that have decorated versions
@Will0wAWisp
@Will0wAWisp Ай бұрын
Hey, danke für die Unterhaltung! Ich bin schon seit einiger Zeit ein Fan und hoffe, dass dies dabei hilft, mehr zu machen! Entschuldigung für den USD, ich lebe in den USA und kann keine Euro zahlen, lol
@ShinSheel
@ShinSheel 10 ай бұрын
You understood it totally right Ukrainians are way more lightweight with symbols exact shape. Notably we almost never sing the formal version of anthem (1 part + chorus), but we sing 3-5 part version to organizer's taste There is also "Great Coat of Arms" (with lion and cossack) that is widely accepted but never formally approved
@crusaderanimation6967
@crusaderanimation6967 10 ай бұрын
1:30 Or even triden't
@vitaliitomas8121
@vitaliitomas8121 10 ай бұрын
Have your cookie and get out
@crusaderanimation6967
@crusaderanimation6967 10 ай бұрын
@@vitaliitomas8121 why such cruel PUNishment ?
@Tiipori
@Tiipori 8 ай бұрын
So, I'm Ukrainian and we have a few symbols of our country that we're taught in school. The first one is flag, second is "Herb" and hymn. While the situation with the flag and hymn are pretty intuitive, you could say that herb's story is a bit more complicated, but that would be wrong. Just as polish silver eagle and many other examples, that's just a country's emblem and it's attachment to a flag isn't really some political things, just Ukraine's flag and emblem together. Thanks for the interest in our country.
@equilibrum999
@equilibrum999 9 ай бұрын
firstly i see a blue sky above wheat farm, then in the intermedium a golden throne on which a spoon lies. but nextly, i saw a blue sky above wheat farm, but with a trident on its intermedium.
@grzegorzha.
@grzegorzha. 10 ай бұрын
I don't know about Ukraine, but we Poles use a version of our flag with the CoA on it for seafaring purposes, so it doesn't get confused with others. Then it's called a bandera, a name Ukrainians might like.
@delayed_control
@delayed_control 10 ай бұрын
1:05 It wasn't just swallowed up by USSR, it was double pronged by both USSR and also freshly independent Poland, ending up as the battlefield of Polish-Bolshevik war. Poles literally kept _concentration camps_ for Ukrainians not unlike the ones they themselves were kept in 20 years later, that tens of thousands died in. As a Pole I do not think this injustice towards Ukraine by the Poles, who saw them as colonial property despite having barely recovered independence after partitions, should be forgotten, lest the entire history of Polish-Ukrainian relations past that point stops making sense. Ukrainians tend to do the same with Volhynia massacre, or with their own actions during aforementioned Polish-Ukrainian war 20 years earlier, which combined makes for a shaky ground to build relations upon. And even the Russian invasion which made Polish-Ukrainian alliance unavoidable and crucial, didn't push politicians on either side to finally deal with the past.
@vitaliitomas8121
@vitaliitomas8121 10 ай бұрын
That's why I say that our historians should come together and settle it once and for all. And from there you and us can build relationship on the new basis.
@CarthagoMike
@CarthagoMike 10 ай бұрын
Wel, that sure ended on a cliffhanger.
@ArghyaDas44
@ArghyaDas44 10 ай бұрын
The trident is a very ancient weapon and appear in many pagan mythology and religion as powerful mythological artifact and even national symbol present days. In hinduism here in India which is oldest religion (since foundation of it has built up by absorbing the many ancient religion) we have "Trishul" which lord Shiva yields. It is similar to Tryzub and Trident, but much ancient than both of them. This proves the deep connection and similarities between different Indi-European culture.
@WoofyMcDoodle
@WoofyMcDoodle 10 ай бұрын
I love how everybody even their cats are now Ukraine experts even tho 99%of the people with that flag in their bio didnt even know where Ukraine was on the map
@user-wn4sw4ig5j
@user-wn4sw4ig5j 6 ай бұрын
But even in “Supernatural” there is a country called Belarus
@KYR_MAN
@KYR_MAN 9 ай бұрын
Trident, like Kievan Rus, has nothing to do with Russia, I hope you know the history of Russia.
@orientalischerwarjager
@orientalischerwarjager 9 ай бұрын
the trident has never been a state symbol of Rus'. I hope you know the history of Rus'.
@KYR_MAN
@KYR_MAN 9 ай бұрын
@@orientalischerwarjager You meant Ukraine, I know very well the history of Ukraine from A to Z, and I know very well that the trident was on the flag of Rus', I hope you know the history of Rus' .
@orientalischerwarjager
@orientalischerwarjager 9 ай бұрын
@@KYR_MAN >I know very well the history of Ukraine >the trident was on the flag of Rus' yeah the fact is that you probably know the history of ukraine, but not the history of Rus cuz Rus didn't have its own flag at all. please learn the history of Rus in more detail and not from the TV
@KYR_MAN
@KYR_MAN 9 ай бұрын
Study the history of Ukraine, because I find it funny to talk to you@@orientalischerwarjager
@legat_Joshua_Graham
@legat_Joshua_Graham 9 ай бұрын
​​@@KYR_MANкиевская Русь часть истории всей Руси и в том числе и России С Белорусью
@SomeoneYouDontKnowOfficial
@SomeoneYouDontKnowOfficial 10 ай бұрын
What's that song at the end? It goes hard
@jasonmyneni8605
@jasonmyneni8605 8 ай бұрын
I always assumed the one with the trident was the military ensign. Who would have thought this was such a rabbit hole
@TheBlackLionTv
@TheBlackLionTv 10 ай бұрын
I like this video. Next makes Indonesian flag with and or without garuda emblem.
@Pointclearius
@Pointclearius 10 ай бұрын
3:40 I hear Drach's intro music but this isn't a 5-150 minute video about Naval History!
@roguevector1268
@roguevector1268 10 ай бұрын
This was bothering me for the longest time. Thank you for pointing out where it was from XD
@brutpenta
@brutpenta 9 ай бұрын
After some wikipedia searching the Ukraine flag with the trident in the center is the naval flag for the president, which makes sense because the trident was the symbol for the leader of the Kyivan Rus
@karthigeyanschannel9908
@karthigeyanschannel9908 10 ай бұрын
Good video
@Narses_the_aremnian
@Narses_the_aremnian 10 ай бұрын
Kyivan Rus was both russia and ukraine ,belarus at same time
@YaPinGYouTu
@YaPinGYouTu 10 ай бұрын
A bit more complicated than that. If we talk about the territory - then it was quite a small part of what is now called Russia, almost all of Belarus and significant part of Ukraine. If we talk about the state then it's even more complicated because there were many states instead of three and none of the three mentioned existed back then. However, it would make more sense to not perceive Kyivan Rus as one state but rather federation of republics/principalities and trace origins of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia to those combinations of different states. Like Ryzan, Smolensk, Kyiv, Chernihiv principalities, Novgorod republic, etc. However, it's even more complicated for modern Russia since it itself is divided to various administrative parts, sometimes republics, sometimes it called differently, but overall hardly resembles a unified country which could be traced back to one singular origin.
@shwabb1
@shwabb1 10 ай бұрын
@@eduardog3000 it is complicated though, for example Chełm was a part of the Kyivan Rus', and yet Poland isn't considered one of the ancestors of the state. I'm not even mentioning most of what is now Russia. As time passed, a lot of mixing, assimilation, migration, conqering happened, so you can't say that 100% of all Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Russians are equivalent to Kyivan Rus', it's only that the three can claim most of its heritage.
@kostyasorokin9266
@kostyasorokin9266 10 ай бұрын
​@@shwabb1chelm's near territories were considered by ukrainians as part of Ukraine, just like poles considered Lviv part of Poland up to end of ww2, as majority of people living there were ukrainians or poles respectively
@viktorias63
@viktorias63 10 ай бұрын
​@@kostyasorokin9266that part was Ukraine even under Polish occupation. Polish or Russians occupying land does not make it theirs.
@pashazzubuntu
@pashazzubuntu 10 ай бұрын
@@shwabb1even though Kievan Rus contains very little of current Russia, it contained pretty much everything that is considered the Russian heartland, including Moscow, Vladimir, Yaroslavl, Ryazan and Novgorod. So Russian claim to kievan rus is as valid as ukrainian.
@start3945
@start3945 10 ай бұрын
as ukrainian I've never think about it, it's just looks cool 🤷‍♀
@amhuman5138
@amhuman5138 10 ай бұрын
Nice video
@mafija_begis
@mafija_begis 9 ай бұрын
Interessant
@terdragontra8900
@terdragontra8900 10 ай бұрын
the ukrainian coat of arms is the coolest symbol ive ever seen like ever
@rowamko3868
@rowamko3868 10 ай бұрын
I believe, Ukrainian trident is important for modern Ukrainian State and Ukrainians because it is not only a coat of arms, but also has a connection to Ukrainian People's Republic, the first modern Ukrainian state and as a symbol of independence movements throughout the 20th century. My speculation, that for 100 years, in times of black-and-white, coats of arms were much more important than flags as a state identifier, because of all these monochrome stamps and black-and-white documents.
@AnnoyingDog1997
@AnnoyingDog1997 9 ай бұрын
ITS WAY MORE IMPORTANT THAN YOU THINK
@MatveyTsivinyuk
@MatveyTsivinyuk 10 ай бұрын
The Trizub was afaik the personal coat of arms of Rurikids and depicted a falcon flying down.
@Awfulfeature
@Awfulfeature 10 ай бұрын
I was in Deadwood South Dakota of all places and saw the Ukraine trident flag.
@fiskersproductions
@fiskersproductions 10 ай бұрын
It's because South Dakota is based. Best state in the United States
@gezalesko3813
@gezalesko3813 9 ай бұрын
fighting russians under a russian sign.... thats weird...
@yarik_superpro
@yarik_superpro Ай бұрын
russia tried to steal history of Rus' (but got fucked up) that all you need to know
@fintan9218
@fintan9218 10 ай бұрын
Great timing with this video in my recommendations, i just saw news report showing them replacing the hammer&sickle symbol on a statue in Kyiv. Had been wondering what the trident represented.
@lyagushkha8490
@lyagushkha8490 10 ай бұрын
Same deal with Polish flag, the real one is just white and red, but I very often see people put polish coat of arms (crowned eagle) on it as well.
@CruiserCaptainCommenting
@CruiserCaptainCommenting Ай бұрын
fighting over a trident logo is crazy
@eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2
@eid8fkebe7f27ejdjdjduyhsvqhwu2 10 ай бұрын
00:35 This is one of several variations of the sigil of Vladimir "the Great", and depicted a falcon, not a trident. His predecessors and descendants used other versions, so it wasn't *the* symbol of *the* ruler of the Kievan Rus, but one of several symbols of one of many rules of the Rus.
@Wendeta-hq2cp
@Wendeta-hq2cp 10 ай бұрын
It was from the period when Kievan Rus was doing really well, so it's one of the most well known.
@thebigyeeter4282
@thebigyeeter4282 8 ай бұрын
No it wasn't originally used by Vladimir the great but his predecessor Sviatoslav. He used a "Bident" i.e like a trident but with only two prongs instead of three. According to the version that says that it was a falcon, the middle one would represent a tail and the two on the sides would represent its wings. But when you consider that its first iteration actually only has two prongs it doesn't make sense because then it would represent a bird without a tail which doesn't make sense. Its more likely to be a trident, a weapon used in those ages by pagans
@klobiforpresident2254
@klobiforpresident2254 10 ай бұрын
For your question near the end : I always assumed Rußland was named after Siberian wildfires and Weißrußland was the same thing, except with the deep-cleaning power of Fairy Ultra (like Villarriba and Villabajo).
@PetrovichErochin
@PetrovichErochin 10 ай бұрын
well you were wrong
@klobiforpresident2254
@klobiforpresident2254 10 ай бұрын
@@PetrovichErochin What gave it away? The deliberate use of a spelling which stopped being in official use thirty years ago? The reference to a series of adverts? The nonsensical nature of this proposed etymology? Tell me, oh wise one.
@PetrovichErochin
@PetrovichErochin 10 ай бұрын
@@klobiforpresident2254 All together, I guess
@Username-mb4bi
@Username-mb4bi 10 ай бұрын
​@@PetrovichErochinit's a pun on the german word Ruß, or soot in english.
@klobiforpresident2254
@klobiforpresident2254 10 ай бұрын
@@Username-mb4bi Indeed. That pun might possibly be why Rußland, Friedeburg, East Frisia has this name. Supposedly a collier (charcoal maker) lived there and it's not the cleanest of occupations.
@M16A1E2
@M16A1E2 10 ай бұрын
Hey, we just love our tryzyb. It's unique and cute. And it looks great :)
@Magicpatbicycle
@Magicpatbicycle 10 ай бұрын
absolutely epic ending!
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 10 ай бұрын
I know Drachinifel perhaps doesn't own that tune, but as your video was ending, I thought "wait, are we getting a naval connection here?".
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 10 ай бұрын
Flag with coat of arms is seen as more "official." A number of countries that have separate civil and state flags do this. Finland being a prime example: cross by itself on a white background is the regular every day flag cross with the lion in the center for state property and institutions cross with the lion in the center with swallowtail fly for military installations cross with the lion in the center with swallowtail fly and the Cross of Freedom in the canton for the president of the republic.
@imyarek
@imyarek 9 ай бұрын
3:45 Not only that but Russia is technically speaking the only *formal* successor to that state.
@luonggiaphat7946
@luonggiaphat7946 10 ай бұрын
TBH, I think the version with the trident looks much better, because the orignal seems a bit empty.
@anonarchist1936
@anonarchist1936 10 ай бұрын
I like that the animated version of the flag in the background also more closely emulates a picture of a field of crops under a blue sky (which I assume is what the blue and yellow representin general)
@HxTurtle
@HxTurtle 10 ай бұрын
yes, this is indeed what the flag is supposed to represent 👍
@kijeenki
@kijeenki 10 ай бұрын
yes, it is in fact what it represents
@ayararesara6253
@ayararesara6253 10 ай бұрын
Don't listen to other commentators, it's a popular myth. Colors are based on kingdom of Galicia-Volhynia's coat of arms (golden lion).
@anonarchist1936
@anonarchist1936 10 ай бұрын
@@ayararesara6253 there anywhere i can learn more about the history/creation of the flag? wikipedia is a bit sparse on the subject
@ayararesara6253
@ayararesara6253 10 ай бұрын
@@anonarchist1936 In English? I don't know… I mean, there's not a whole lot to say, modern bicolor originates from "springtime of nations" in Austria and was first used for a few days during 1848's revolutions on top of Lviv Town Hall. National colors were chosen by members of Supreme Ruthenian council one month before that - there's slightly more info on their wiki page, please look. It was not used in Russian empire until revolution of 1905. Also later public discussion on pages of Lviv and Kyiv magazines(?) in 1911-1912 proved historical tradition of these two colors not only in Galicia, but in Dnieper Ukraine too. However, the order of colors was not established and both variations were used (which creates controversy to this day).
@backyardaviator2920
@backyardaviator2920 10 ай бұрын
3:45 welp to put it simply,2 siblings literally waged a war against their parents just to get that Insurance/Inheritance money (IE: Ukrainian Land,Manpower & Resources)💀💀
@Vielenberg
@Vielenberg 9 ай бұрын
You could make an identical clip about the Polish flag with identical conclusions. The CoA version of the Polish flag should only be used on Embassies, airports and sea ports and on ships. But nevertheless it is often used by politicians - even for official purposes.
@user-zv6th8fh8v
@user-zv6th8fh8v 12 күн бұрын
The problem is: the trident is a Russian symbol. And it is not even a trydent it is a stylized diving falcon. The coat of arms of Rurik's dynasty.
@pljjy2224
@pljjy2224 8 ай бұрын
Ukrainian here, the trident is loved as much as the flag so people tend to combine them, I don't think there is any other complicated reason for that
@danukil7703
@danukil7703 10 ай бұрын
A good solid video, but I think Occam's Razor is the best solution to this question. The tryzub on the flag just looks cool, and it makes the flag even more recognizably Ukrainian. Honestly, I never even noticed that it technically wasn't the right flag, the use of the tryzub-variant flag is so common among Ukrainians. As for your final comment: I know there were some russian fringe monarchist groups that once used something akin to the tryzub in the early 20th century, but from what I understand, only the Ukrainians ever used the tryzub to any meaningful extent. Belarus and russia never particularly cared for the symbol. I also don't know to what extent Belarusian nationalists see their country as a successor to Kyivan Rus` as a whole rather than to any specific knyazivstvo in the territory of modern Belarus, or to the Grand Duchy of Lithuania (which I understand is a very important part in Belarusian nationalist historiography)
@Soviet00000
@Soviet00000 10 ай бұрын
Omg the Kievan rus has the chad face in the map, good job!
@suweno16
@suweno16 9 ай бұрын
They use It because is cool af
@elkandevening
@elkandevening 10 ай бұрын
You managed to hold this one in a very right way. That's a thing that's often got wrong, especially by the Westerners: in the Ancient times there were no Russia, Belarus, and Ukraine; those lands were sometimes united under strong rule and sometimes divided into lesser entities, usually unrelated to the countries we have today. Modern national identities came around much later than the known history started, so it's important to acknowledge how far in the past these symbols can reach to unite us with something.
@kyleid3446
@kyleid3446 10 ай бұрын
This is false equivalence. Kyiv rus was a very small part of the formation of the russian federation's identity, from symbolism to political structures. English also doesn't translate all the details, since the rus in Kyivan rus is different to the "rus" in russia when you read it in cyrillic - Київська Русь, Россія - note the "Русь" vs the "Рос". Belarus on the other hand, does use the rus from Kyiv rus. You talk about "westerners", but if you had knowledge of cyrillic you wouldn't make this even worse mistake.
@elkandevening
@elkandevening 10 ай бұрын
@@kyleid3446 Russian is my native language, and I know the difference between «Русь/русский» and «Россия». The «ros» part originated from Ancient Greek as the name of «Rus» and then spread over Russia. I don't see why it is a false equivalence: Kyivan Rus existed in the times long predating both modern Russia and Ukraine. Its political structures were akin to its time and actually differed over periods, so it's only natural that they have changed by the contemporary age. Symbolism isn't the hardest proof of continuity, especially that symbols can be revived and claimed, which happened with tryzub.
@Nothing-_-0024.
@Nothing-_-0024. 10 ай бұрын
They should make that the official flag, it would look so cool
@kijeenki
@kijeenki 10 ай бұрын
yeah it looks good. however the design of the flag is a part of the Constitution, and it can’t be changed during war. so it will stay “consists of two stripes: blue and yellow” for now
@ironmatic1
@ironmatic1 10 ай бұрын
Really doesn’t need to be changed. Nothing wrong with defacing flags; doesn’t have to be on-paper official.
@HoholGaming14
@HoholGaming14 7 ай бұрын
Ill wait till you know about flags with Greater CoA
@ImperialDiecast
@ImperialDiecast 9 ай бұрын
What flag did the Hetmanate of Zaporhizya have?
@brunothedev
@brunothedev 10 ай бұрын
I love the Ukrainian flag, just to annoy the Danish
@epender
@epender 10 ай бұрын
And why would they be annoyed?
@brunothedev
@brunothedev 10 ай бұрын
ukranian themed danish flag
@varalderfreyr8438
@varalderfreyr8438 10 ай бұрын
​@@ependerdanish flag with Ukraine's colours=swedish flag
@Samuel-p17
@Samuel-p17 10 ай бұрын
It's so weird for Ukraine to use the one Symbol that shows their joined heritage to their enemies to differentiate themselves from excactly those two.
@lordlierhook3368
@lordlierhook3368 10 ай бұрын
Oops
@shwabb1
@shwabb1 10 ай бұрын
Not so weird. The fact that Ukraine preserved the use of the tryzub differentiates it from Russia and Belarus, who did not.
@Samuel-p17
@Samuel-p17 10 ай бұрын
​@@shwabb1but those two kept the rus in their name
@mofik26
@mofik26 10 ай бұрын
@@Samuel-p17 so? It's just the name
@HxTurtle
@HxTurtle 10 ай бұрын
@@mofik26 and nothing else was implied
@Aq_3
@Aq_3 8 ай бұрын
i want to say 1 thing, kievian rus is ancestor state of not only Ukraine but also Belarus and Russia bcs the language was speaked by his rule r after slavised was rus an ancestor language of the Ukrainian Belarusian and russian
@Aq_3
@Aq_3 8 ай бұрын
oh sorry you alredy say that
@justkyro
@justkyro 10 ай бұрын
that ukraine flag with the trident in the corner fr looks like a brotherin flag to the liechtenstein one
@DooblerFlooper
@DooblerFlooper 3 ай бұрын
Petition to change the name of the russo-ukranian war to the war of the tridents
@Artovna
@Artovna Ай бұрын
Actually, it's officially called "SMO"🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
@RotneybotOfficial
@RotneybotOfficial 9 ай бұрын
What is a Ukraine?
@volo870
@volo870 9 ай бұрын
What is a woman?
@sasho_b.
@sasho_b. 5 ай бұрын
@@volo870 Ukro try not to be a fascist challenge * impossible *. How progressives tolerate you is beyond me.
@aviavik
@aviavik 9 ай бұрын
As a Ukrainian, I can provide somewhat of an explanation. When most people see the regular blue and yellow Ukrainian flag, they simply associate it with Ukraine as a country. It is simply an official flag of the country. But a trident adds a lot of personality and uniqueness to the flag. It is no longer just 2 colors put together but rather 2 colors with a symbol coming together in harmony. It is just a lot more special and personal to the Ukrainian people. Because we have a strong connection to our flag and our coat of arms but even a stronger one to both at the same time. Also, there are places in the world like Lower Austria state in Austria, city of Chemnitz in Germany and probably a few more places that have the exact blue and yellow flag. So it is easy to get confused. However, if you see a flag with a trident, then you know 100% that it is Ukraine. Hope this helps to resolve the confusion a bit. I think both flags do the job and it is just a matter of personal preference at this point tho.
@no1fanofthepals
@no1fanofthepals 10 ай бұрын
average austrian speech at 1:58 but seriously cool video
This is the American Flag.*
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