This is one of the BEST 3rd shots that you can do

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As time goes on, people get better and better at the forehand roll. It's become so widespread now that regular third shot drops that bounce high in the kitchen are more difficult to pull off. So instead, why not try a shot that avoids all of this? In this video, I show you how!
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@karenk5472 Жыл бұрын

This was such an excellent teaching video. The slow motion parts are VERY helpful. I was actually practicing my swing while watching this video 😄

@angiemcbride7200 2 жыл бұрын

I watched this last week, worked on it and yesterday put it into play with better players. My game greatly improved!

@RichardsWorld 3 жыл бұрын

I've been doing my drops like that for quite awhile. If opponents aren't used to it they pop a lot of balls up for an easy shake and bake.

@mlinton3007 3 жыл бұрын

You are simply the best teacher of pickleball. You are the Gold Standard

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot!

@sherylbuck7377 Жыл бұрын

You are awesome at explaining the technique.

@gg80108 2 жыл бұрын

I have strong top spin. Like the ideas on how to use it. I'm slow legs now and need every advantage to make up for it. Keep em coming.

@snhoman6394 Жыл бұрын

Excellent tips on the actual mechanics. Thank you!

@theresadobbins9627 2 жыл бұрын

This was very helpful. I am a newbie, thanks so much!

@supremeschool 2 жыл бұрын

Love the slow motion. Helps tremendously.

@PickleballKitchen 2 жыл бұрын

Yes that's a favorite for a lot of people.

@karenk5472 Жыл бұрын

It IS VERY helpful.

@inApickle_ball 9 ай бұрын

Great job. Thanks

@texasknight5175 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks again for the useful info!

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@yasim9435 Ай бұрын

Great thanks, can you demo the backhand? Any chance you could do slow motion?

@Bsholder 2 жыл бұрын

Great shot love it

@didaugherty2731 Жыл бұрын

I agree with the comment below. VERY effective stroke. Love the slow motion portion

@philminion4705 3 жыл бұрын

nice!, now do a vid on how to counter the 3ed shot dive.

@robmorris8718 3 жыл бұрын

****I notice that it is pretty natural to impart backspin on my backhand 3rd shot drops...but I don't think a backspin on a 3rd shot drop is wise because it causes the ball to float higher over the net making it potentially easier for my opponents to volley back. Do you also typically try to put some top spin on 3rd shots you hit with your backhand as well? Thanks

@markheneghan3804 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You

@sohosterable Жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining this. I am working on this currently but would like to know your take on grip. Are you using the eastern grip?

@shanebuysse327 2 жыл бұрын

Great video well explained

@PickleballKitchen 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by!

@chucklatty9473 2 жыл бұрын

Great video.

@garyjones3585 3 жыл бұрын

Well done sir!

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@xantyemox 3 жыл бұрын

I've (4.5) been using this shot for a while but struggled to explain it to my wife (3.5), it's great when you can hit it to the corners. Would have been nice to see more match play examples in your video but thanks for the great content!

@keithkraegel5080 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! I can really see how the arch of that shot is at its peak on your side of the net, so that it’s dropping significantly when it’s at the net. It’s dropping sharply on the other side of the net forcing a low to high shot from your opponents - perfect for you to tee up on.

@greatislandbob1826 3 жыл бұрын

Under what circumstances would you not use this shot?

@janicenicolle7156 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating but gives me hope

@dickhazeltine6659 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😊

@PickleballKitchen 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

@paulmcdevitt2038 3 жыл бұрын

I have been playing a slice with some slight top spin but like the idea of this shot. Haven’t been brave enough to go full top spin as third shot but definitely will now - after our lockdown

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely try it out!

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

And hey, thanks for being a subscriber for 1 year!

@paulmcdevitt2038 3 жыл бұрын

@@PickleballKitchen thanks for the great videos

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

@Thejoeb 3 жыл бұрын

on that example shot, I would have rushed the line immediately and looked to jump the corner erne, because theres not much else they can do with that shot besides exactly what she does which is go straight ahead. If shes able to angle the 4th shot your partner gets it, but if not you kill it on the 5th with the erne jump. Not everyone has the athletic ability to do it, but thats one of the go to set plays I enjoy running for a 5 shot score.

@davidbasinski2634 5 ай бұрын

ty. Addressing a third shot drop against a 'banged' return. :(

@GaiaGrrl69 3 жыл бұрын

That topspin shot is probably my best asset I brought over from tennis! Thanks for the reminder to use it on the 3rd shot drop. 👍

@margaretdunbar6642 3 жыл бұрын

Are you using a continental grip ?

@jamesgartner1911 3 жыл бұрын

The good news (for me), this is precisely the same stroke I use when doing ground strokes. Including brushing up on the ball, 45° paddle pointing down, follow through to the left ear, etc. Looking at your video, it seems to be the same for you as well. That is, your topspin ground stroke seems the same motion as your "3rd-shot Dive.” True? What do you do different for this 3rd? Is it the same acceleration and brushing of the ball for top, but simply a softer stroke? Less pace, so that it falls into the kitchen rather than deep into the court. I ask because I’m often getting it too deep, and needing to know how to correct this. More topspin? Softer? Less pace?

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

The trick to this shot is to let the brush up motion take it up in the air. This will not only give it topspin, but it will give it the upward trajectory to then let it dive down. What you don't want is too much forward pace. Think upward pace. Does that help? Personally, for my 3rd shot drive, I hit it more forward or flat.

@jamesgartner1911 3 жыл бұрын

@@PickleballKitchen Let's see if I have this right. You're suggesting an "upward motion taking it up in the air" ... meaning clearing the net perhaps higher than what I was attempting, and thus preventing the ball from going too deep into the court. First question: Do I have this right? If so, my confusion came from watching your video -- as it seems you were only clearing the net by about 6 inches or so. Look at your video starting around 1:56 . It looks like you are just barely clearing the net -- which is what I was striving for, and thus often (not always) hitting it too deep into the court, even with extreme topspin. Perhaps I'm not getting enough arc on the shot (although again, it doesn't look like you're getting much arc at all).

@glenncole6144 3 жыл бұрын

What make and model of paddle are you using?

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

Prince Response Pro

@mlee9049 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, are you using a continental grip for this? Thank you.

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

Mostly yes.

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

Whoops sorry, I read your comment incorrectly. For this shot, I use an eastern or even a semi-western grip, but 99% of the time it's eastern. I typically don't use those words though. I just say to people, "rotate your grip to the right until it feels OK." Just experiment though.

@mlee9049 3 жыл бұрын

@@PickleballKitchen Thank you so much. I call the semi western the frying pan grip ( to help me remember). Is the western grip the one that is turned about 45 degrees?

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

As I was reading your comment, I made a "shaking the frying pan" motion and just laughed. That's great! The full blown western grip is that crazy one where your hand is completely underneath the handle. I haven't seen very many people use it. I would stay away from it for now. Continental and eastern grips are the best for PB.

@mlee9049 3 жыл бұрын

@@PickleballKitchen Thank you. I've been experimenting with different grips and have become obsessed with topspin ;-)

@beautysecret2809 7 ай бұрын

Hi I want to order Selkirk paddle do you have discounts code? Thanks

@PickleballKitchen 7 ай бұрын

I don't do any of that for paddles. Thanks for stopping by.

@jimwaldemarsen472 3 жыл бұрын

Do you use this mostly from the baseline? I love this shot but I haven't been able to master it yet.

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, but in reality, shots like this that are done closer up are basically just dinks. That's the great thing about this shot. If you can get really good at it, the topspin dink isn't too far off!

@jamesgartner1911 3 жыл бұрын

Haven’t been able to get Pickleball Kitchen to respond, so I’ll open this to anyone. Confirm my thinking: Because of the acceleration and brushing motion (for topspin), many of my 3rds are going as much as a foot, sometimes more, past the kitchen line. To get my 3rds into the kitchen, or even landing at the kitchen line, is this just a matter of finesse, more top, and perhaps hitting just a tad softer? Thoughts?

@braddick4130 3 жыл бұрын

Loosen your grip a tad and you should be able to feel the ball more and just adjust from there.

@tonybell5043 3 жыл бұрын

What type of grip is used?

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

Eastern or continental.

@fieldingsnow9720 3 жыл бұрын

I would also like to see this on the backhand side

@shanebuysse327 2 жыл бұрын

That would be with 2 hands on bh side. Or bh slice with 1 hand

@Riker-ER 2 жыл бұрын

You have the best top spin drop shot!

@PickleballKitchen 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@SethProton 3 жыл бұрын

wonder what the answer is to a question.We were playing in strong wind. The player hit the ball way low, it bounced on the lower cross beam of the net and as it came up the wind blew it over the net. is that legal

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

No.

@gsue33 3 жыл бұрын

Hinged wrist allows u to catch it higher and get more spin.

@nofear1604 3 жыл бұрын

she returned all his 3rd dive shots lol

@inflxshn6175 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. He's tucking his elbow.

@neondiamondsaquaberry17 3 жыл бұрын

How about adding a little spray glue to the paddle ? 😂

@mdgsunico 3 жыл бұрын

i call it the half bounce... blocking the ball on a top spin as soon as it rises...

@markepps3511 2 жыл бұрын

Is this not also a perfectly valid service return?

@terryjordan7276 3 жыл бұрын

Advanced flat top spin doesn't listen to ocean...elbow holding racquet below left shoulder.....source 5.5 tennis player and best friend is rafa nadal

@susannethompson4063 10 ай бұрын

Is it a rule that the second shot after the serve can not be hit into the kitchen?

@PickleballKitchen 10 ай бұрын

No, that's incorrect.

@terrihoang6182 3 жыл бұрын

Backhand video please

@peterbutlien5016 Жыл бұрын

hit myself in the head practicing this.

@karenk5472 Жыл бұрын

😄😄😄. But, did you hear the ocean? 😉

@rungavagairun 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! There's Jeremy! Hi Jeremy!

@videofishable 3 жыл бұрын

Barret, an observation: you talk early in this vid about "rolling over the ball, rolling over your forearm..." and then show your paddle face turning in a closed direction. BUT, watching your strokes later in the vid, using my pause button, it's totally clear that your paddle face is a bit open and NEVER closed at all on most shots. Pause at 9:05 and you can see a good example of this---the paddle face is still sl OPEN even after the ball has been contacted and is 3-4 feet away from your paddle. And at the end of your stroke it is still open. So, I think this term 'roll over' is very misleading and if you do it, the ball goes to the left and into the NET most times. Jordan and other instructors make the same mistake in my view---your thoughts please--thanks Tom Fauntleroy

@PickleballKitchen 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Tom, thanks for stopping by and thanks for the comment. I'm not sure if you saw the clarification part of the video, but I put in a little bit that explains this. You begin to close things over, but not entirely. It's the start of that motion that matters as it transforms into the follow-through. Admittedly, the example you mention isn't the best.

@rodolfolumbang4118 3 жыл бұрын

Topspin doesn't really have an effect in pickleball not like in tennis.

@robertvk1814 3 жыл бұрын

True, you don't get nearly as much as tennis but spin is still very important to pickleball.

@jameshoben2950 3 жыл бұрын

She had no trouble returning your soft top spin shot? Don't waste our time with capture wording intro.

@normhundtoft8557 3 жыл бұрын

You've formed your opinion based on one example? At any rate, the goal of the third shot is not to be "unreturnable." If it results in a just few more pop-up fourth shots that you or your partner can pick off, then that alone makes it a good option.

@robertvk1814 3 жыл бұрын

Knowing how to type makes everybody an expert, apparently.