I play to a plus with P790s. I picked up Paradyme X because at 64 and battling military disabilities wanted to see distance gains. I play from blues or tips. No hot iron shots so far. I use the same tempo with these clubs. These clubs are crazy long yet land and stop like a rock on the green for me.

@@hiltd0860 Tried them at my local range, getting fitted Thursday... they FEEL incredible, send the ball absolutely flying, seemed for me to have MUCH better dispersion than my Lynx Predators... I didn't get any sudden flyers either as long as I kept my swing consistent. Really pretty and effective clubs that feel great to use, I can't wait!

I totally agree, if he goes left of center at all he flies the green and around where I play thats bush. Definitely has hot spots! That’s why spin retention is so important with irons because he’s only losing 600 or so rpm and flies it 15 yards further. That’s scary and a ticking time bomb on the course.

I don't think any hollow body "players distance" irons give that level of control.

I totally agree! My buddy has the Callaway Rogue X iron’s and flies the green by 10-20 yard’s quite often. That usually ends in a lost ball. Nobody should want a club that goes 160 on average, but flies 180 on a miss hit. Let’s not even get into hitting out of the rough.

They’ve made a 2017 P790.

And it’s a 29 degree lofted “7” iron…

Columbia, SC?

Maryland

I'm a 40+ handicapper. I would like to ask if you think this club might fit me. Cause right now, I got gapping issues with my 6 hybrid to 7 iron (Stealth 6 hybrid at 28 to Launchpad 7 at 30.) I looked at the specs and the perfect way I would be able to gap would be to play the X at 8 iron at 31.5 and my Launchpad 8 at 34 with my Launchpad 9 next at 39 and the X at PW at 41 and AW at 46. I know that's a little gapping issue at the bottom end but I'd much rather hit a full 9 and make sure it goes high as than a full PW and possibly thin the hell out of it by trying to hit it too hard. You think that might be a good strategy or try something else?

How did the ping fitting go? I’m debating between paradym and the ping i525’s

I game tourstage z101s about the same age ild say

Cool story bro

Well, I personally can give you something close. I have a 28 degree 6 hybrid and I swing around that 75mph swing speed you're looking at and I'm a pretty consistent 145 to 150. So with a 29 degree iron, I'd expect maybe 135-140 numbers.

@@jacobwilkie241 Thanks, much appreciated. I am 81, will be 82 in June, and am still playing forged blades with weak lofts. With my 35 degree 7 iron with a 77 gram Nippon Zelos 7 stiff shaft that I just changed to instead of my 120 gram Rifle Lite stiff shafts I have been getting an average carry of 134 yds, ball speed 96.7, back spin 5154 with a Pro V1x ball, with one max of 140 yds, ball speed 99.8. With a Bridgestone BXS ball I recorded an average carry of 137.8, ball speed 98.6, back spin 4559, with one max shot of 146.2 yards, ball speed 103.2. I don't doubt I could get longer carry with a 29 degree 7 iron, a loft halfway between my 6 and 5 iron. It is tempting, but I can't afford new clubs. And I still love the look of those blades and the feel. Now if I can just find a 60 mm mortar to launch my drives, I can get close enough to use that 7 iron for approaches! LOL.

@@johnk.atchley5079 It's great you hit your irons really well. But I can see one way you could get better while not adding too much loft for cheap. I see you have a 35 degree 7 iron. I play a 34 degree 8 iron and hit maybe about 10 yards shorter than you. So I can see potential of you hitting 150 with your 7 iron really easily. And that's by just getting some Wilson Launchpads. I know, if you've seen them, they may not fit your eye but trust me, for an 81/82 year old like yourself, I think they might add even more help for you to get the ball in the air. And the 7 iron it holds is a 30 degree loft so if you hit it like you do with your 7 iron now, which I'm sure you could hit it maybe better than you do now, I'm sure you'll get to the 150 range. Hell, when I changed my clubs to these Launchpads, I gained about 11 yards. And they are cheap too. Depending on where you live, they would be in the $100-150 mark. I got mine for $135 in Australia and I gotta say, probably the best $400 I've spent on clubs so far. Gapping is a bit of a problem right now since I got a 28 degree 6 hybrid after the 30 degree 7 and I go all the way down to my 46 degree PW after my 39 degree 9 iron. So that's really the only problem I have with these clubs. But other than that, maybe take a look and try them out. Maybe you'll get the distance you want and not have to get the driver.

Yeah same here. I tested the X's because simply, I wanted a longer distance iron that would increase my forgiveness. First few shots were not my best, probably 6/10 for me personally (40 hcp with 80mph driver head speed) and I was totaling 130m on a few (about 5m farther than my best 7I). But then after those few shots, I started to get into a flow and was hitting some fantastic ones. But I never hit a shot farther than 138m, even on my best strikes. Not to mention, the average ball roll out for me was 7m. That's holding a green. And I was getting upwards of 5800-5900 spin on average but a few got up to around the 6400-6500 mark which is really good to see from a 27.5 loft 7 iron. These irons will go into the bag at some point. Just depends on when. I love the distance, the accuracy, the spin and the height.

Yes. Modern Callaway irons have hot spots. Totally inconsistent distances. Mostly missing the green long. I don’t remember that playing with callaway big Bertha irons from 1994.

Agree, even that odd flier is not good for any level of golfer I believe. Just a question which gen 5 did you compare the jpx 923 forged to and that also had a flier DNA ?

@@simrandhawan9084 I have the gen 5p which is what I compared the jox923 forged to. The fliers came from the jpx. My gen 5 had a tighter north south and East west dispersion even if 3-4 yds shorter than the jpx. But precision, accuracy and predictability more important - even though could do with some more distance given my age but not at the cost of the above.

@@alysgolfstudio567 Couldn't agree more, these irons are recipe for disaster.

The benefit is for the manufacturer. They sell more clubs. The rule might say "14 clubs", but it's actually "15 penises"-and you measure in length off the tee. This 7-iron has 0.25" added shaft length and 6 degrees(!) of loft on my MP-32. In my set, this is like a 5.5 iron. But I'm not hating on it, even though I agree with your comment. I just don't think players that hit 160+ "normal 7-irons" should be fitted into these clubs. I'd use this tech to potentially get better spacing at the top end. After my 5-iron, going to 4 and then 3, the spacing compresses and I'd take a few more yards per club up there.

@@AndreeMarkefors Don't disagree on the penises (never thought I'd start a statement that way...) but I think the point is (also) that with the clubs being able to achieve a higher launch angle they can lower the loft for more distance with less spin and still have a 7i hold a green like a higher lofted 7i should.

@@BuckMcAntlerson That's fair enough, and at least for arguments's sake I'll straight up "accept that". But even so I'm questioning the benefit of just renumbering "known distances". Because if all clubs are straight up 'one club longer' you'll just cut one at the top end and add another wedge. I don't see the benefit of hitting a 155 yds wedge at some point. I somehow doubt 175 yds will suddenly become "scoring distance" just because you have an 8-iron in your hand. Once again: not hating the new tech, more head scratching. And I'm guessing they are great if one's 7-iron goes 120 yds with old tech?

Oh it’s a joke Might get a 4 iron and turn it down to use as a driving iron

I’d add the Wilson D9 Forged along side the Cobras. At 31 degrees for 7i they aren’t stupidly jacked lofts, and still have slim-ish top line, great feel and forgiveness. The Mizuno JPX hot metals are also pretty good

That dispersion difference is a little concerning though. I like my misses to go left and right not short and long. It seems the whole Paradym line flies far but lacks consistency

Yes they will be released in June or July I believe.

Have you seen in person yet? I have never liked irons that share names with drivers. I have hit this club they felt fantastic, but I don't know. Could I play a driver named iron leaning towards no. I know it sounds super egotistical, but it's what goes on in my thoughts.

Thanks for watching and the comment! They are very similar. The main difference is the new clubface architecture on the Ai Smoke model called Ai Smart Face. It helps with better performance on mis-hits compared to the Paradym irons.

​@@2ndswingI watched your original paradym video as well, it mentioned they also used AI technology in the face design. Just better technology in the AI smoke faces?

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I’m guessing the pros would hit this particular 7 iron around 210 carry

Also the attack on most of these is on the shallow end, which is helping reduce spin. But, some great swing coming out of this tester.

Agree, I expect better from 2nd swing.