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AVerMedia Live Streamer CAP 4K Review - so much more than a Cam Link! AVerMedia made a capture card that under-prices their own previous cards and those of their competitors. But is it worth it?
Live Streamer Cap 4K (BU113) on Amazon (paid link): geni.us/kZrjKLc
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TIMECODES:
00:00 Intro & Context
00:50 Physical Overview & I/O
01:25 Specs
02:13 HDR?
02:23 Latency
04:31 UVC - Mac & Linux Support
05:01 Quality
05:28 Retro Captures
06:08 CamEngine - AI Face Tracking?
07:17 Pricing
09:50 Conclusion
Thanks for watching!
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@keithmiller9665
@keithmiller9665 2 жыл бұрын
Listening to your review the one question I had was “Does it work with Linux?” as I just don’t buy any hardware that is Windows only. Thanks for making Linux compatibilty part of your review. Very helpful 10/10.
@TheDirewolf
@TheDirewolf Жыл бұрын
Does this work in multiple apps simultaneously? That's my current issue with the Cam Link. Or other USB capture card that can do 4k30 to multiple apps you would suggest? From ElGato it looks like the only cards that support multi-app & 4k are PCIe. Thanks!
@BenjiDWJ
@BenjiDWJ 2 жыл бұрын
An awesome review and video as per usual, Adam! 😆👍👍 As ever, I appreciate you for taking the time to go into such a high level of detail and thoroughness with your testing and overall conclusions. ☺👌 Cheers to you, my man! 🍻
@luciano.armani
@luciano.armani 2 жыл бұрын
i tried the camlink and footage doesnt look like camera footage AT ALL. this seems to be different, at least close to what the camera would look like if im shooting straight through it. do you feel the same? in that case i would get it.
@MrSujano
@MrSujano Жыл бұрын
Just picked up one of these because of this review. Thanks for the comprehensive video!
@BrowncoatInABox
@BrowncoatInABox 8 ай бұрын
How is the latancy? Are you able to play in the obs window and feel any input lag?
@AndyVNguyen
@AndyVNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Does it take 4k/24? My other avermedia capture card takes 30fps but not 24
@Delbs1
@Delbs1 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I'm so glad I've held myself and almost bought the Camlink 4k! Great content as always 🖤
@LtGoldenRod
@LtGoldenRod 2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this, thanks for the video.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@GTArajgaming
@GTArajgaming 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I'd like to know is if this would work with a dreamcast VGA cable which is connected to a VGA to HDMI convertor. my original elgato craps its pants and shows a black box.... so I'm unable to capture footage BUT passthrough still works.
@IsaacFromHK
@IsaacFromHK 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, may I know if I can record 4K gameplay from my ps4 pro? Because I tried many other USB capture device but they dont let me really record 4K from the ps4 Pro becaues it outputs at 4k60hz, most card will just convert the 4k60hz to 1080p60, so what about this one? Thanks.
@xPRxMEx
@xPRxMEx 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sweet! So if I was connecting my XBSX to my Mac mini with the hdmi splitter I should be good to live stream correct?!? Would you recommend this AV Cap over something like the Elgato HD60 s+?!?
@NOOBandBRO
@NOOBandBRO 2 жыл бұрын
I tried to tell you, this thing kicks butt dude! 1440p hype!
@MohammadAlMoatassem
@MohammadAlMoatassem 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, VERY helpful, any idea about using that on M1 macs?
@yoseppandji8698
@yoseppandji8698 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get what you were saying about playing through the preview. Which application do you recommend to use if I'm planning to play my console through my laptop monitor?
@IsaacFromHK
@IsaacFromHK 2 жыл бұрын
hey, would you mind telling me if this works for ps5 / ps4pro if I want to record in 4K30 because the ps4 pro / ps5 outputs at 4k60hz
@ThisisChrisGaming
@ThisisChrisGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Is your room really that big or it’s the depth in the camera
@timelyenigma
@timelyenigma 2 жыл бұрын
Been using one of those $5 shamlinks and it's worked out so far, think I'll upgrade to this soon.
@zxcvb_bvcxz
@zxcvb_bvcxz 2 жыл бұрын
What splitter would you recommend with this?
@stevenmok3000
@stevenmok3000 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible connect four or more bu113 to capture 4k30 in OBS simultaneously in Mac studio or PC Platform?
@KooriKitsune
@KooriKitsune 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to see such a serious competitor with *that* low a latency and at such quality and price point. It's bonkers! By the by, that shirt is to live for! Where'd you get it? :D
@zblitz920
@zblitz920 Жыл бұрын
hello, why you recommend using amerac or virtualdub instead? is there any difference with obs?
@kougamecs3876
@kougamecs3876 4 ай бұрын
So uhh, Adam when it comes to Android, Windows 10 and 11 HDMI output, would I need to get a hdcp splitter for the capture card? I still have it in my room unsure if I should buy a splitter.
@Debate_everything
@Debate_everything 2 жыл бұрын
I am just ready for the next evolution of these cards we need a 4K 144 Hz box and ideally it would be nice to see one that is compatible with HDR pass-through compatible tone mapping and possibly even allow us to use display port or HDMI 2.1. I know that this is a big ask but the technology is already available to utilize it we just need someone to develop it.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
The tech isn't exactly "already available to utilize it" unfortunately. HDMI 2.1 chipsets are still super expensive and hard to get (especially with shortages), there's not even switches/splitters with it out in the world. And no one knows what to do with all the crazy features like VRR that really make no sense in a capture scenario, etc. It'll be a while
@34disorder84
@34disorder84 Жыл бұрын
I'm using this thing to play ps3 on my macbook and it's awesome. The latency is definetly there but i got used to it real quick, i'm using the official avermedia software for preview and i'm not noticing any latency fluctuation. This is probably the best bet for using a laptop as a display.
@briandipierro8865
@briandipierro8865 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think my 720p 60fps PCI-E capture card (it's a timeleak HD72 or something like that) would outperform this in playing on my PC? I don't notice any lag using it, but I'm looking to up the quality of my recordings. Might need to go PCI-E since I don't have a TV to output it anyway.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Unlikely to be better, no. Usually the older and lower spec cards are much worse for latency due to not having a reason to optimize for it before
@naqinaqi2418
@naqinaqi2418 11 ай бұрын
Which one is better ? Elgato camlink or avermedia ? For the video quality
@craftedpixel
@craftedpixel 2 жыл бұрын
That latency is awesome! I need to replace my camlink 4k since it just overheats and freezes on me
@getintermc
@getintermc 2 жыл бұрын
May I just say... that video is looking crisp.
@octavianmitrea6449
@octavianmitrea6449 3 ай бұрын
Good review, thanks! It is my understanding that you are using (or have used) a Lumix G7. Does this card work with the G7? It is not listed in the compatible device list and did not get a word back from avermedia just yet. I thought you might know. I am pretty close to buy it, but it would be nice to know if it works with my camera (G7) before I do :). Thanks again for the review!
@EposVox
@EposVox 3 ай бұрын
It does!
@octavianmitrea6449
@octavianmitrea6449 3 ай бұрын
@@EposVox Thanks! I have just ordered it.
@ReallyOPV
@ReallyOPV 2 жыл бұрын
Don't really see the use for streaming its overkill and wont be seen, recording yes tons of use cases. I'm already thinking about getting one or two. No need to record internally is always a plus to me. I'm probably gonna get one this next month with my upcoming shoots. I use an elgato HD60 sometimes to record my camera externally, also have a couple other capture cards / cam links but I like testing others. I have some off brand 4k capture card which has an input and output for passthrough. maybe I should compare the video quality on both.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
It's not about it being seen, but it being compatible with what you're using. If you're playing at 1440p144, you need a capture card that supports that format, even if you're only streaming 720p60
@Lesortic
@Lesortic 2 жыл бұрын
whats that windscreen? ty :D
@DadLadsGaming
@DadLadsGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy the Elgato cam link in the next month so this has definitely given me food for thought. I can’t find this on the webs at the mo……or Amazon. Any idea on its release date mate?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
It’s live on Amazon US already. Not sure when your neck of the woods will have it :(
@DadLadsGaming
@DadLadsGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox I'll keep my eyes peeled thank you 🙏
@DadLadsGaming
@DadLadsGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I got one from Amazon USA in the end 👍
@dannamanna99
@dannamanna99 2 жыл бұрын
i have heard from a few people, that the elgato cam link gets super hot.
@Sly1020
@Sly1020 2 жыл бұрын
Does input mean you can see it on the computer at 1440p 144hz? But it just won’t let you record
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Means you can clone or split 144hz signal to it to still play on gaming monitor but all capture software will see is 60
@SRG-Learn-Filmmaking
@SRG-Learn-Filmmaking 2 жыл бұрын
I contacted Avermedia regarding camera compatibility. Apparently my Canon M6 Mk2 who is able to output clean 10bit 4k 4:2:2 is only recorded as 1080p. I don't get it, why is even camera compatibility? This device should don't care about what gear is connected to, only the signal received. Anyone has test it and found that is true? I'm quite puzzled because the info in the official page is quite bad, I hope they are wrong.
@SRG-Learn-Filmmaking
@SRG-Learn-Filmmaking 2 жыл бұрын
So..., I got one. And yep, it can capture 3840x2160@29.97p I think one problem I had at first was that was set in pal at 25fps, didn't let me choose UHD resolution. In fact it didn't let me choose it in recentral until I used OBS first. Know I would like to see If 4k 25fps are possible and also what quality can I expect from this, It will be 10bit 4:2:2? I don't thinks so, anyway, what tools do you recommend to check for video quality information?
@ReptilLoco_
@ReptilLoco_ 9 ай бұрын
hey guys so i dont really get it, can i use this capture card but instead of a camera connect it to my console for streaming throught my laptop ??
@EposVox
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
Yes, just get a hdmi splitter so you can still see your console on your monitor/TV
@terrygriffin5201
@terrygriffin5201 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Does it capture audio also for using Zoom, Obs, etc...
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@terrygriffin5201
@terrygriffin5201 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox Do you think it is better than eglato camlink 4k or HD60 ? Thanks in advance.
@nicktayloriv310
@nicktayloriv310 2 жыл бұрын
@@terrygriffin5201 Yes.
@fryderykkrol7250
@fryderykkrol7250 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I know you are not recommending playing over Preview, and if you would use other software, but since VirtualDub is not supported on Mac, what would you recommend instead of OBS?
@EposVox
@EposVox Жыл бұрын
I would try QuickTime tbh
@fryderykkrol7250
@fryderykkrol7250 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I will give it a try. Just got the NZXT Signal 4k30 after watching your review :)
@fryderykkrol7250
@fryderykkrol7250 Жыл бұрын
I actually ended up testing a bunch of apps yesterday, and on Mac you can get the least latency and best quality on app called Quick Camera, the latency is barely noticeable. Your card reviews were really helpful, I watched literally all of them last week 😂Thanks!
@jessepower1995
@jessepower1995 2 жыл бұрын
What programs did Epos recommend at 4:25 for playing through the preview?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Amarec & Virtualdub
@zblitz920
@zblitz920 Жыл бұрын
@@EposVox why use those applications? Any advantages?
@itslegiTim
@itslegiTim 2 жыл бұрын
Cant find it anywhere.
@Scorp_2
@Scorp_2 2 жыл бұрын
Looks good 😊
@arthurnunez970
@arthurnunez970 2 жыл бұрын
Big ups for Epos reminding everyone the importance of an HDMI splitter, get that other monitor running folks!!!
@movax20h
@movax20h Жыл бұрын
Does this require a HDMI splitter? Can i for example connect it to directly to camera or Rasberry Pi, with no splitter / monitor, and capture it to PC? (On Linux).
@EposVox
@EposVox Жыл бұрын
You only need a splitter for consoles or seeing your video on a separate Tv instead of the capture preview
@movax20h
@movax20h Жыл бұрын
@@EposVox thank you. It is so confusing. I just want to capture SBCs on a desktop or laptop, without needing extra display or hdmi switchers and splitter. I do have Elgato Cam link, and it is really wonky, need to force some resolutions, replug many times, and if I am lucky it will work. And when it works, picture quality is horrible.
@richiecabral3602
@richiecabral3602 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know anything about the extreme cap, that's the non 4k version. Is it the same quality minus the 4k, for someone that doesn't need 4k?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! it's similar, but without any high refresh rate support. Review here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rr-DgpdkztuvgGw.html
@richiecabral3602
@richiecabral3602 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox ha, yeah I found your video on it after making that comment. Thank you, I'm a noob, and just learning, I left a more detailed explanation as a comment on another video of yours, so let me try and ask this as simple as possible, if I'm not gaming, or anything else, just want to run my camera into my laptop for occasional streaming in 1080, is the extreme cap, that's now apparently much cheaper than when you reviewed it before, a better option than a cam link, or would I be better of paying the extra $30 for the live streamer cap in this video even though I don't need the 4k?
@richiecabral3602
@richiecabral3602 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox by the way, I've only learned as much so far to know that I would need a capture card, but knew next to nothing about them, until finding your channel. All I'd really heard mentioned before was the cam link, but I figured there had to be more to it than that. I've been watching a lot of your videos today. I really appreciate all that you do. I'm not sure I've really seen anyone else that explains things to someone as ignorant on the topic as myself, and has put in the extensive work that you have. Not that I have all that much more knowledge now, but were it not for you, I'd still be pretty lost. At least now I fell I have enough practical advice that I can at least have some ability to make a decision of what to buy, and how to get started. Thank you for that. I plan on watching more of your content.
@fps_scotland3429
@fps_scotland3429 2 жыл бұрын
So, could I use this in a 2 PC setup? Was just about to buy the Live Gamer ULTRA - GC553. Could this be a cheaper alternative?
@fps_scotland3429
@fps_scotland3429 2 жыл бұрын
Never mind, my bad it's just for cams. Doh
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Please watch the video lmao your follow-up comment is not correct.
@fps_scotland3429
@fps_scotland3429 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox got it thanks, sorry total noob. Struggle to get to grips with all this tech.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
To answer your question; yes it can be a cheaper alternative if you use display cloning or Obs projector preview
@TechnicalGamingChannel
@TechnicalGamingChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 1000% buying this to replace my HD60S that I use with my Sony mirrorless camera... Bruh avermedia knows what's up
@jesuscalderon6268
@jesuscalderon6268 2 жыл бұрын
What about the EzRecorder 330 - ER330?? I wish someone could do a English tutorial of it
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
I actually had to import it but I will be covering it
@zhaf
@zhaf 2 жыл бұрын
Why no pass through though? Or does it mean new capture cards are around the corner? Any chances on HDMI 2.1 cards?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Because it’s a capture card designed for cameras
@dannamanna99
@dannamanna99 2 жыл бұрын
he answered as its basically taking your camera and making it a webcam.
@zhaf
@zhaf 2 жыл бұрын
My nvidia broadcast drops a million frames when using background blur and auto frame on an RTX3060Ti.
@jamesbanks7368
@jamesbanks7368 2 жыл бұрын
Garuda, very cool.
@LhunVideo
@LhunVideo 2 жыл бұрын
I use these at work for a variety of reasons. Here's the question. Can it run 24/7 365. That's the question.
@BladeBlur
@BladeBlur 2 жыл бұрын
What about 120hz?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Answered in detail in the video
@ProjectHelisexuality
@ProjectHelisexuality 2 жыл бұрын
I use an AVerMedia ER330, standalone capture. Very happy with it. Can livestream without even having a PC.
@TobiTainment_
@TobiTainment_ Жыл бұрын
is this also freezing like elgato camlink?
@EposVox
@EposVox Жыл бұрын
No
@zxcvb_bvcxz
@zxcvb_bvcxz 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait till 10, 20 and 40Gbit USB becomes a thing that gets used.
@Aumazul
@Aumazul 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Epos. How much is the delay on this capture card? I'm using a elgato cam link to capture my game pc, but it has a slight delay on it.. any fixes?
@df98156
@df98156 2 жыл бұрын
Delay for my cam link is 233ms, so putting in a -233ms delay in OBS audio properties fixes it
@Darkstriker
@Darkstriker 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a captnsugarspice t-shirt?
@GamingCentrum
@GamingCentrum 9 ай бұрын
Wait VirtualDub for Better latency gaming from capture card? Explain!!
@EposVox
@EposVox 9 ай бұрын
OBS isn’t a capture program. It’s a layered compositing streaming/recording program. Everything is done on a buffer with dynamic frame times. VirtualDub JUST displays the feed and dumps it to disk, runs at lower latency
@AdamBoc
@AdamBoc 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use this one with multiple apps at the same time? It is unbelievable how few capture cards can do that.
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Nope you cannot. It requires custom drivers in windows so by being UVC you lose that capability
@AdamBoc
@AdamBoc 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox Right. I’ll just stick to my HD60S then. Thank you for the fast answer.
@TechWithBruno
@TechWithBruno 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just bought a camlink 😭
@AweSamAlways
@AweSamAlways 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, may I know where to download the gradient wallpaper on your dual monitor behind you? 😀
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Uh, it's one of the bundled wallpapers included with the Garuda Linux distribution, I'm not finding it hosted anywhere atm D:
@AweSamAlways
@AweSamAlways 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox Oh! Okay. Still, thanks for letting me know 😀
@Diinzie
@Diinzie 2 жыл бұрын
0:53 you could say... CamLike 👁️👄👁️
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Ohshit yes
@imothy
@imothy 2 жыл бұрын
what game is at 3:04?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Hades
@FernandoDeAndaOff
@FernandoDeAndaOff 2 жыл бұрын
Like for that "His name is Henry" lol
@luismepu
@luismepu 2 жыл бұрын
To this day I have no idea what these little cards do ;(
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
They capture hdmi video feeds to your computer for recording to streaming
@stephendelacruzone
@stephendelacruzone 2 жыл бұрын
✨👍
@WhiteshadowTV
@WhiteshadowTV 2 жыл бұрын
AVerMedia is straight killing it
@brandoftw
@brandoftw 2 жыл бұрын
did any1 else catch that forty reference
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
HENRY
@nevoyu
@nevoyu 2 жыл бұрын
It's UVC compliant? HELL YEAH I just bought this without watching the rest of the video!
@Teknickel_ftw
@Teknickel_ftw 2 жыл бұрын
kappa 4k
@MichaelAddlesee
@MichaelAddlesee 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does this chap speak so fast because he's had way too much coffee?
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t drink any coffee and for every comment I get about going to fast I have an equal amount about going too slow. Can’t please everyone.
@MichaelAddlesee
@MichaelAddlesee 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox OK it must be my slow in-built translator to UK-English ;-)
@DerdOn0ner
@DerdOn0ner 2 жыл бұрын
Kapp or NoKapp
@AlbertStewart
@AlbertStewart 2 жыл бұрын
*sigh* Guess I'm buying another product I don't need yet...
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
But why
@AlbertStewart
@AlbertStewart 2 жыл бұрын
@@EposVox I haven't yet gotten my ZV-E10 so technically I don't need this right now. I will in a couple of months though and I feel like this thing might be out of stock lol
@EposVox
@EposVox 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh
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