This is so STUPID! || iZotope Ozone 10

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INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
00:21 - What is Ozone?
00:52 - Master Assistant
01:20 - Disclosure
03:12 - Using analysers
06:38 - New Module: Stabilizer
07:42 - New Module: Impact
09:51 - New Feature: Soft Clip
10:49 - Conclusion
11:18 - Support me!

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@johnnybregar
@johnnybregar Жыл бұрын
Perhaps I missed something - why is it “SO STUPID?” And is it Snake Oil? Titles like this cheapen your channel imho. Why not “Ozone 10 might SURPRISE you!” Or “Will Ozone 10 change how YOU master?” I don’t know. I just don’t like click bait, but I like your channel a lot. This is a good vid. Thx.
@MusicFed
@MusicFed Жыл бұрын
I agree. the only 'stupid' thing seems the title of this video
@artprojectsnz
@artprojectsnz Жыл бұрын
Yea agree….gets over excited then praises it - so the title is super misleading? I bought it a few weeks ago and its amazing…..🧐
@christoferrage
@christoferrage Жыл бұрын
Clickbait lol
@NunyaB1s
@NunyaB1s Жыл бұрын
KZfaq algorithm has a negative bias. You get promoted more quickly by leading with negativity. That’s why the channel “Bad Gear” has done so well. (He rarely actually uses “bad gear.”)
@johnnybregar
@johnnybregar Жыл бұрын
We’ll that really is stupid then….
@thejacevekexperience
@thejacevekexperience Жыл бұрын
Truthfully, I think its a great plug-in. A couple of things I'm noticing. For me, at this point, until i gain more experience with Izotope, I'm still better off setting up a mastering chain that I perceive suits the needs of my track. Certain chains, for certain things. I'm not a top-down guy, I'm a bottom-up guy. This means that when I cross into mastering, I'm looking for 5%. If I need more than that, I missed the purpose on the mix. Period, no debate. And aside from loudness maybe sometimes 3% or 2% of my production comes from mastering. . Because all the heavy lifting to make a track sound great happened from the very first note of the very first part of the production. And the mix that followed. These days, plugins like this encourage more of the "mix into the master bus compressor with the first track" thinking. (top-down) Which is fine, but ithat's a technique that would ruin my style. I get that's what some people do. That's not me. The first thing I have to do when I'm mastering with izotope, is eliminating 90% of what Izotop suggested lol. And bypass all of the modules. Their mastering compressor doesn't blow me away either. Not a whole lot of character. I get way more out of Elysia alpha... or Iron, or BX Master desk, or For character, they are hoseing a track down with saturation and transient shaping. But in their defense I don't think Izotope thinks that this is a one-click walk-away thing. The auto helper feature is simply a suggestion as a starting point based off of a glimpse of your track. A glimpse. It doesn''t even listen to the whole thing. It suggests the loudest part for its 5-second listen, it spits out a half dozen plugins and slams it with a limiter. so why would anyone expect it to nail it? Try neutron sometime. It's mix helper hits a track like a nuclear bomb. Again, its only a starting. point. Let it give you some suggestions, but zero them out and. u s e y o u r e a r s. (spoken in obiwan Kenobi voice with 6 seconds of church reverb). One great thing about neutron is that it will give you an alternate way to randomly hear your creations in a different light. Thats discovery, and discovery is gold. Plus one more thing- ya gotta be careful getting too far down a tinkering rabbit hole. I mean seriously. Finishing tracks is about the most important thing. And spending 6 hours on tweaking .004 seconds of a transient is a good way to lose 10 years of your life.
@mustafayasen4378
@mustafayasen4378 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@jasperkirton6848
@jasperkirton6848 Жыл бұрын
Great comment
@shyguymuzik9095
@shyguymuzik9095 Жыл бұрын
Most definitely try Neutron. It listens to your whole song and gives you a nice starting point from your mix. I agree, if your mix is good then mastering will be more for loudness and fine tuning.
@taxmoneyyy
@taxmoneyyy Жыл бұрын
If you're not mixing into a mastering chain, whatever you're doing is probably irrelevant mate. You'd think you're done with the mix and would then bump it to appropriate loudness levels and probably destroy most of your mixing decisions. If you're already mixing at appropriate loudness levels then you're already mastering from the get-go (yeah: gain staging at target loudness levels is basically limiting)
@thejacevekexperience
@thejacevekexperience Жыл бұрын
@@taxmoneyyy yea I disagree. I switch the mastering chain on and off at will. I make much better decisions on a track and submix level when I don’t have a mastering chain inflating things with various types of mastering chain plug ins. The method you are referring to is called “top down” - some prefer it, some don’t. I also mix in mono this way. Being able to switch the mastering chain on to check inflation in the signal and elevation of all the added flair of mastering and than switching it off at various stages is how I and many other professionals I’ve worked with work. Of course when the mastering phase begins, than yes, the mastering chain is default “on” always
@musicproductionbrauns2594
@musicproductionbrauns2594 Жыл бұрын
I am not against adding transients and then clip them again. It gives the song a kind of pseudo dynamic. It works because the amplitude get translated to harmonic content. But yeah definitly depends on style of music
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
Still, this has nothing on Newfangled Audio Elevate. By far the most natural and impressive transient shaper + limiter + eq+ limiter plugin i ever heared (and a CPU killer too).
@Adam-g-uk
@Adam-g-uk Жыл бұрын
@@saricubra2867 yeah but split eq is much better for sound design type of edits (especially in classic breakbeats ect)
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
@@Adam-g-uk I can use split EQ for mixes without compressors. Then Elevate for drums.
@Adam-g-uk
@Adam-g-uk Жыл бұрын
@@saricubra2867 you know what, I never actually thought about that! It can be used as a multi band compression, I love that plugin
@ChrisPFuchs
@ChrisPFuchs Жыл бұрын
Right, like I totally get what Wytse's saying but I don't think it's really a knock against iZotope to include a soft clipper in Ozone. It sounds pretty good.
@artysanmobile
@artysanmobile Жыл бұрын
I love Ozone’s individual elements. I forget what version I finally got advanced, I think it was 5, but it really opened up my ears. I’ve been with them since v3 and I’m a fan. They make a very musical EQ.
@somedude8604
@somedude8604 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy how Izotope always pushes the line when it comes to plugin innovation. There's definitely some unnecessary stuff but all in all it's an amazing package just like it was last time.
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv Жыл бұрын
The biggest new module in this one is their version of Gullfoss
@AeonGreyh
@AeonGreyh Жыл бұрын
@@sub-jec-tiv Yeah their sculptor is great, I love it
@mradamcshaw
@mradamcshaw Жыл бұрын
I have Ozone 9 Advanced but I have slowly moved away from it for two reasons. Firstly, using a lot of their embedded tools as a mastering change sucks CPU power adding latency and distortion. Two, some of their automation for a novice or intermediate tempts you to take your hands off the steering wheel and you can get led into an exaggerated mess. Apart from this I wasn't happy when they moved towards a subscription service. I tend to use Tokyo Dawn Records products now mainly. This has made me use my ears more and forced me to learn and understand better what I am doing.
@Keroser1983
@Keroser1983 Жыл бұрын
TDR Limiter 6 is one hell of a limiter. I have Ozone too but I always reach for it at the end of the day.
@JK_EU
@JK_EU Жыл бұрын
This up here, except last 2 sentences.
@keveydaking
@keveydaking Жыл бұрын
Is the cpu use better??
@mradamcshaw
@mradamcshaw Жыл бұрын
@@keveydaking Yes
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv Жыл бұрын
Q: Why would you care about latency in a mastering chain plugin? Are you also using analog stuff on a bus in parallel? I agree Tokyo Dawn stuff is fantastic. I think Ozone is more for people who aren’t professional mix and master engineers, in my experience a lot of these folks hit the AI mastering button and go ‘done, that sounds great.’ I’m not judging them, they’re usually younger musicians who haven’t yet dug down into craft.
@ZeroStateReflex
@ZeroStateReflex Жыл бұрын
I used 9 for mastering and was a little nervous given the UI change for 10,..I thought maybe the "candification" of the UI meant it wasn't really that different. Though I liked 9 so much I wanted to try it. I purchased the advanced and A/B tested on tracks that I had already used 9 on. The difference was significant. 10 preformed, imo, much better. Louder, brighter, and significantly more "automatic." By automatic I mean I would have had to tweak a lot more in 9 to achieve the leveling 10 did automatically. On the CON side the compression was way more dramatic and I think you'd need to be careful and dial the auto function back a bit if you want a cleaner track in terms of leveling. Would recommend to anyone who really liked 9!
@tbaudio3310
@tbaudio3310 Жыл бұрын
Does the stabilizer work like Gullfoss? I was going to get Gullfoss soon, but I almost wonder if upgrading to Ozone 10 would effectively give me the same sort of thing for a cheaper price.
@julianwest4030
@julianwest4030 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see they added a separate clipper. Before, I would use an instance of a clipper plugin followed by a more conventional limiter. I'm shocked they didn't add that sooner
@_thevaporz
@_thevaporz Жыл бұрын
God Particle (limiter off) > Sir Audio Standard Clip > Ozone maximizer only
@billpodolak7754
@billpodolak7754 Жыл бұрын
@@_thevaporz you should compare the harmonic profile of the ozone soft clipper against standard clip using a sine wave. Ozone is way better
@_thevaporz
@_thevaporz Жыл бұрын
@@billpodolak7754 ​ @William Podolak Cool, thanks. I'll check it out!
@miquelmarti6537
@miquelmarti6537 Жыл бұрын
you can make the maximizer module to act as a clipper. Look at the left where you can choose the limiter type. Works very well
@julianwest4030
@julianwest4030 Жыл бұрын
@@miquelmarti6537 Yeah. I've done that before, but when using Ozone as a stand-alone application, you can't use two of the same module
@rafyahu
@rafyahu Жыл бұрын
I bought the Ozone 10 advanced and have already used it today for mastering. It is a serious upgrade from the 9 version and it gives an excellent starting point for tweaking and finishing up. I have many Izotope plugins, but only the Ozone really delivers for me. And the limiter has always sounded great, quite underestimated in various comparisons, in my opinion. The new features in the stereo imager - not mentioned here - are great, especially the compensation of lost signal at narrowing towards mono - well done.
@compoundaudio
@compoundaudio Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@jameswhitaker4357
@jameswhitaker4357 Жыл бұрын
Do we go to the website to receive the upgrade, I bought Ozone 9 with 10 upgrade
@rafyahu
@rafyahu Жыл бұрын
@@jameswhitaker4357 Yes
@jameswhitaker4357
@jameswhitaker4357 Жыл бұрын
@@rafyahu thanks bro gonna check it out when o get off work. LFG!!!
@tekrahmuzik2119
@tekrahmuzik2119 Жыл бұрын
is Advanced upgrade vs Standard worth it?
@rsutin
@rsutin Жыл бұрын
After 2-3 hours of using Ozone 10, I have advice for anyone who bought it as an upgrade: Keep V 9 installed on your machine. While I understand the additional power granted by using it as a plugin within a DAW (automation, etc), there was a lot to be said for Ozone 9 working as a standalone. It allowed you to modify your mastering chain using any VST plugins you had on your computer, so I (being a UAD user and having access to reasonably accurate emulations of hardware like Manley Massive Passive Mastering EQ and Fairchild 670 compressors) would frequently do just that and get some really nice results. V 10 only works as a plugin in and doesn't allow you to nest plugins within the plugin, so... unless you use the separate modules and build your chain manually, you can't really get the same result, at least not as quickly. There is good news though... you can run V 9 as a standalone and then, within that, run any of the V 10 modules as VST plugins; works like a charm... just tested it. SO, yes, it's a cool new set of tools, but if you can... hang on to V 9 for added functionality.
@RudalPL
@RudalPL Жыл бұрын
As a Ozone 9 user I have the same feelings. I am actually disappointed they dropped the standalone app. You could do a lot from within the app without the need to constantly going back to DAW. And like you pointed out, having the option to load additional plugins was really great. I upgraded but I think I'll be still using my 9 version.
@matthewmessner1105
@matthewmessner1105 Жыл бұрын
This is the type of analysis I look for thank you. Often we get upgrade happy but miss these details. That’s a huge downgrade
@monsterbroccoli884
@monsterbroccoli884 Жыл бұрын
Every Ozone module is still a seperate plugin. You can still put 3rd party plugins between Ozone modules. I have been an Ozone user for years myself and really felt no need for the standalone app. From a developer perspective I understand that they wanted to discontinue the standalone app. It unnecessarily consumes development resources.
@gabrielmetatron9086
@gabrielmetatron9086 Жыл бұрын
thanks for confirming that!!! definitely not rushing to update
@entity9588
@entity9588 Жыл бұрын
@@monsterbroccoli884 It's actually a really shitty thing to drop tbh. Izotope claims they want Ozone to be a great tool for advanced users like mastering engineers but also good for novices. For novices the Assistant tool is a MAJOR feature. Even for more experienced guys it can be a good starting point. With the removal of the standalone you cant add third party plugins in the chain unless you copy settings and migrate them to each individual plugin in a DAW which is very time consuming. I don't really care because I don't use the assistant but it's definitely a big downgrade.
@emotionblur7214
@emotionblur7214 Жыл бұрын
Can't you use the Impact module to smooth transients as well? Isn't it the reason why its faders are in the middle and not at the bottom?
Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry if I missed if you've already made a video about this, but I would love to hear your thoughts about perceived loudness, such as even when two songs have the same avg. LUFS either sounds louder, and how you'd approach to achieve the maximum loudness while keeping LUFS at around -14.
@UTOBY
@UTOBY Жыл бұрын
Hey Leiki, in short: Perceived Loudness for us humans can be described as hearing more loud noises in a given time. Imagine shutting a door with force and a Jackhammer. In both cases you hear a snippet of, let's say 5 seconds. The jackhammer will sound louder, but the peak level is quite the same as with the door. Why is the jackhammer perceived louder, you may ask? Well it seems that our brain integrates loudness over a given time. If in that time the jackhammer made, let's say, 10 peaks, the door has only one peak. On the other hand we perceive sounds with a shallow dynamic range (difference between quieter and louder sounds is small) as louder as well. LUFS for streaming services is measured over the entirety of the whole song. This means, if you, arrange the track with an appropriate amount of silence in between sections with a short term LUFS reading of -6 you can still end up with a -14 LUFS integrated. What you can't really do is write a song with a lot of distortion and many loud transients and have a short term LUFS of -6 and an integrated LUFS with -14. But this song will be perceived louder than an ambient track with the same LUFS, since the dynamic range of the distorted sound is much smaller then the range of the ambient track. You may want to look at some very good videos from Dan Worral about loudness and Dynamic range, and maybe the response to those videos from @Baphometrix. The latter one has a great in depth tutorial for Loudness in mixing. Crazy stuff and pretty technical. ;-) So long T
@wojtek987
@wojtek987 Жыл бұрын
[Serious] Does anyone know how I can find that song? Google search of lyrics doesn't give me any results
@rishi.mukherjee
@rishi.mukherjee Жыл бұрын
Darude by sandstorm. Nah but fr tho, the tracks in his video are given to him by artists he’s personally worked with so you’d probably not find them online.
@6oundStudio
@6oundStudio Жыл бұрын
this is a weird question, but what chair are you using? i kinda need to buy a new one and don't know what to look for
@busyboxst7
@busyboxst7 Жыл бұрын
Dunno what your budget is but Aeron is the most common studio chair - $400 used in a big city (not my favorite chair personally but many love them). Steelcase Leap v2 is another great option, similar price used and widely available. Steelcase Series 1 is also a good, possibly cheaper option but hard to find used. If you prefer buying new tho, it’s decent…. Office Depot also has a knockoff of the Raynor/Humanscale Ergohuman called workpro 12000. It’s a decent chair, good cushioning and particularly good if you tend to slouch I guess (the lower back is spring loaded, hard to explain). Probably want to remove the headrest so you don’t get acoustic reflections into your ears. The Office Depot one is probably not on the same overall quality level with the Aeron/Leap, maybe with the series 1, but there’s a lot of personal preference involved here… there’s also the “stealth” chairs which are specifically made for leaving over consoles, they’re fairly based on Aerons but for mixing at a console specifically (or perhaps a big midi controller with faders, something you’re frequently reaching forward more than a typical office worker would be).
@danielleohallisey4218
@danielleohallisey4218 Жыл бұрын
What I love about iZotope stuff is that you can lease or you can buy. I used to buy and paid more than I do for the lease; and have the latest version of everything as soon as it’s available. Good review!
@sub-jec-tiv
@sub-jec-tiv Жыл бұрын
If you plan to live longer than the next 8 years you’ll pay more in the long run, but you do you. Personally i hate subscriptions unless they are dirt cheap (Roland can eff off lol). I subscribe to Kush Audio plugins because they are worth it and reasonable cost.
@Spikeypup
@Spikeypup Жыл бұрын
I go -2TP because the streaming services' Codec (not every service is the same in how they encode either) will make it "louder" and can easily eclipse even beyond the -1TP depending on material. Glad to see they got that right on the tool! I just got Ozone 10 Advanced as well but haven't taken a look yet, looking a little better than the last already! I just wish I had RX Advanced, I only have Standard :( I'd love to see someone cover that "Spectral Recovery" feature of RX 10 Advanced, where you can take a thin recording and expand it? For example, a mobile phone recording, you would use this tool to get rid of the thinness. Neat!
@mygoogle1525
@mygoogle1525 Жыл бұрын
Do you onow hpw much would it cost to upgrade from ozone standard 10 to advanced 10? Could not find the information anywhere.
@daviHuggMonster
@daviHuggMonster Жыл бұрын
The subscription at izotope does only include tools more targeted at vocal mastering/treatment :) as for now it is included: Ozone 10 advanced and RX10 standard and some other tools
@AcidTechnoMan5000
@AcidTechnoMan5000 Жыл бұрын
How do you export a song with this if there is no standalone version that’s what I usually use?
@ProjectHMF
@ProjectHMF Жыл бұрын
inside a daw ig
@klekrfaqer2114
@klekrfaqer2114 Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping you'd take a swing at the "Recover Sides" function of Imager, which is the only interesting feature for me compared to 9 Advanced (apart from being happy about the clipper, but that's nothing special really, and was easy to work around in 9 as well)...
@AudioCheck12
@AudioCheck12 Жыл бұрын
OOO you got the lewitt! Ive been eyeballing that mic system for awhile. Is it dope? If I was going for plain versatility would you suggest that lewitt or a Sphere L22 ?
@lance134679
@lance134679 Жыл бұрын
I've been using Ozone Elements for quick mixes lately and I really appreciate how quickly I can get a consistent level and it also checks the tonal balance for anything really obviously wrong, though I mostly ignore the high and low shelving suggestions. The new modules - Impact and Stabilizer - seem really useful to me, but in moderation as Stabilizer could really suck the life out of the track. They do seem to fight each other a bit, but I'm sure it's fine.
@jonhollandjazz
@jonhollandjazz Жыл бұрын
The impact section you need to click on the block to select which bit you are editing - you left it on lows whilst soloing/muting the other bits. At least how that UI works elsewhere
@RudalPL
@RudalPL Жыл бұрын
I'm just disappointed they dropped the standalone app. It was my go to with Ozone 9 when I needed to do few tweaks or test/do a quick master. Now you have to do the extra step and load a track into DAW. If I have to do it from within my DAW then I don't really need Ozone anymore.
@levondarratt787
@levondarratt787 Жыл бұрын
yea...TE Standalone NEEDS volume automation and copy and paste song sections....It's almost ready...why discontinue - they owe more features....
@astralboy
@astralboy Жыл бұрын
TC electronic has finalizer - good for quick something
@Solid_Hank
@Solid_Hank Жыл бұрын
Is there any difference between the original track and one you've added transients and then compressed again? None at all i guess?
@anthoni8337
@anthoni8337 Жыл бұрын
Do you think there is a plug-in in ozone 10 that’s like soothe2 or gulfoss? Which one is similar to spiff? I want to buy spiff and soothe2 but if OZONE 10 has plugins just like those I’ll just buy ozone 10 lol
@billpodolak7754
@billpodolak7754 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the new Stabilizer in ozone 10 is like soothe2 and gullfoss. The new Impact module is similar to spiff as well
@Hybrxd
@Hybrxd Жыл бұрын
I do use this vst as like a second set of ears but these new modules don't really make much sense I think, I think the soft clipper feature should have more controls though
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
the impact module is there pretty much for matching the dynamics to the reference targets or a track of your choice. the stabilizer is there to do what the eq match initially does but half way locked in with the EQ and the rest dynamically to not mess up your own mixes balance too much. these tools makes perfect sense to me. The stabilizer also has those genre targets.
@davidmultimedia2024
@davidmultimedia2024 Жыл бұрын
Even though some things should be fixed at the mixing stage (in an ideal world), the reality is that we don't live in an ideal world, and unless you're doing mixing and mastering yourself, a mastering engineer may have to deal with a not so good mix. So tools like transcient recovery (Impact) may be very useful to help making the track sound better. If the AI adds this component in the mastering chain, it is because based on analyzis/references, it could be better, and it assumes that you can't go back in the mix and fix it properly. Would you call the client/mixing engineer and tell him that he sucks and that he has to fix the track? No, obviously you have to deal with it and do your best to make the track sound as good as possible. If you are doing both mixing and mastering, then the Impact tool should only be used as an indicator that you should go back into your mixing session and fix the transcient before thinking of mastering the track. Don't forget that aspiring mixing engineers, wether they're using scopes on not, will rely on ''mastered'' reference tracks and may cut too much transcient off their track before going to mastering. So that kind of tool falls into the ''track saving'' category.
@cmili4039
@cmili4039 Жыл бұрын
Mastering engineers will ask the mixing engineer to go back and fix stuff if they can? If it’s not too big of a deal and is going to guarantee a better final result, yes they will tell them to go back and fix the mix lil bro
@kdot.
@kdot. Жыл бұрын
@@cmili4039 like he said we don't leave in an ideal world, not every mixing engineer would like to go back and fix a mix cause you told them to lil bro
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 Жыл бұрын
One man's reality is another's dream or nightmare. it's just another tool box in the end. Given the absurd abundance we have now, your creative and logistic priorities matter 1000x more than the tools do.
@fraserbrowne1685
@fraserbrowne1685 Жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you go back to the mixing engineer / producer / artist, and give them constructive feedback on the mix? If it's a few things it's probably worth it. If you are going back to ask for stems, maybe that's too far.
@davidmultimedia2024
@davidmultimedia2024 Жыл бұрын
@@fraserbrowne1685 The mastering engineer’s job is to take a given mix "as is” (assuming it’s already as good as it can get, considering the mixing engineer’s skills) and make it even better/compliant with industry standards… that’s it. By the way, a good mastering engineer isn’t necessarly a good mixing engineer. This is 2 completely different jobs and skills. Just because both have trained ears and use plugins to make a song sound good doesn’t mean they could do both jobs. So no man, a mastering engineer would never do that. In fact, it’s a lot more commun to hear about a mixing engineer pissed off at the mastering engineer because he changed the sound too much. This happens all the time!
@TrentSolo
@TrentSolo Жыл бұрын
The transient expander is awesome. I get material all the time from home recordings where time/talent not there and so some rescue moves are required. This is of course one of the things this company does best. Recommended! :)
@GeorgePiazza
@GeorgePiazza Жыл бұрын
I've missed the expansion feature from the dynamics section in Ozone 5 (which I still have on my system, just for that feature); the Impact (or multiband transient designer) looks like a welcome return to that idea. Though I'd prefer a fully controllable downward & upward expansion integrated into the dynamics, to fill out the mid-levels of the music and remove unwanted low-level noise when necessary.
@eyzackkeain1595
@eyzackkeain1595 Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgePiazza get dmg multiplicity you can.
@kadiummusic
@kadiummusic Жыл бұрын
Softube 'Transient Shaper'... £30!
@bobsagetsghost6483
@bobsagetsghost6483 Жыл бұрын
What was the name of the 2nd plugin in his mastering chain he mentioned?
@lamhizz
@lamhizz Жыл бұрын
Hey what is the song you've tested Ozone on?
@Larsec
@Larsec Жыл бұрын
Sage Audio used it in one of their tutorials as well. They were kind enough to inform me it's 'Someone I Used to Know' by Loving Caliber :)
@compoundaudio
@compoundaudio Жыл бұрын
Remember.. Some artists/lables don't have access to the original mix projects or pre-masters Especially when ur re-mastering material from the early 90s Unless u have the DAT your next step is vinyl Full restoration works etc There are many reasons to use a "de-clipping" tool and the same to reduce transients Not everyone is mastering great mixes. But ozone has some amazing tools to get the job done..
@J77199
@J77199 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. That felt a little elitist when he said that
@compoundaudio
@compoundaudio Жыл бұрын
@@J77199 yep... Not a good move... 😆
@atetraxx
@atetraxx Жыл бұрын
For real.. he missed the mark on this review pretty bad
@compoundaudio
@compoundaudio Жыл бұрын
@@atetraxx 😎
@RealHomeRecording
@RealHomeRecording Жыл бұрын
@@atetraxx he always does so that people like us leave comments. It's brilliant actually! Because the more comments a video receives it counts as an engagement even a thumbs down counts. The guy knows what he's doing when it comes to the KZfaq algorithm.
@erkamau9629
@erkamau9629 Жыл бұрын
Hi, wich Is the difference between Total Balance and master assistent ?
@donkeytracks4283
@donkeytracks4283 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your videos, like them:) Comment to transients and limiting… if you limit transients with preview and releasetime, they will always stick out, because the sound around them gets pushed down. So push the transients in mastering can make sense, even if in the end they won’t be louder, but they will seem louder.
@simonjonsson6926
@simonjonsson6926 Жыл бұрын
+1 Yup
@morenazo6412
@morenazo6412 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what difference it makes about the luff's n stuff, when the streaming services are gonna adjust a master that's too loud, anyway.
@futur_sunds
@futur_sunds Жыл бұрын
Is the song you used to demo out on Spotify anything?
@Larsec
@Larsec Жыл бұрын
Sage Audio used the song in one of their tutorials as well. They were kind enough to inform me it's 'Someone I Used to Know' by Loving Caliber :)
@entity9588
@entity9588 Жыл бұрын
What is the Energy Alpha plugin? Never heard of that one and cant find on google...
@bulahe2620
@bulahe2620 Жыл бұрын
what song did you use in this video? It's great!
@youngthugsta12
@youngthugsta12 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't help but notice you not wantin' to say the track and artist name you usin'. Did Sandstorm and you have an argument/fight lately?
@ggjason
@ggjason Жыл бұрын
Anyone else having install issues with 10 standard? I can't find it anywhere inside the app / standalone.
@lawinter1949
@lawinter1949 Жыл бұрын
I own ozone 9 but I have not used it a long time because I need low latency limiting to produce through. My limiter of choice is TDR Limiter 6 GE because I can produce at low latency with the clipper before the limiter and then render at high quality mode without needing to change it before bouncing the track.
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
The ozone maximizer has different limiter algorithms to pick from. and the top one "IRC LL" has the lowest latency. with that said. ozone 10 is a very big upgrade from ozone 9. its a night and day difference in how good the new modules are together with the assistant.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
This version of Ozone looks more like Newfangled Audio Elevate now combined with Split EQ Gulfoss and Spiff... Very cool update.
@georgezorbas9036
@georgezorbas9036 Жыл бұрын
sorry..but I maybe missed it. What feature looks like Split EQ??
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
@@georgezorbas9036 i think hes talking about the impact module
@anthoni8337
@anthoni8337 Жыл бұрын
What plugins remind you of gulfoss and spiff? I have the same ideas, or do you mean more of soothe 2 instead of gulfoss?
@anthoni8337
@anthoni8337 Жыл бұрын
Do you think there is a plug-in in ozone 10 that’s like soothe2?
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 Жыл бұрын
so...what does Ozone look like? 😶
@mcsstudios101
@mcsstudios101 Жыл бұрын
I've had ozone for a long time. This looks pretty good. Some things of course you may not need for every mix, but it's cool to know it's there in case. I thought the -1 db trick was cool. My biggest concern is the streaming services seem to squash the mix a bit as well. Not sure what systems they go through either..that would be a good episode. What are they using? It just can't be a blank channel. Thanks for this though. I always come here for the correct review! Trusting your judgment for a long time and it never fails me. :)
@billpodolak7754
@billpodolak7754 Жыл бұрын
The streaming services don't do any dynamic range compression on the mix, they'll only adjust the level with simple gain. They do data compression, but that shouldn't really "squash" it unless someone is listening with really poor connection
@avm_official
@avm_official Жыл бұрын
Yup was waiting for this... I saw the Eventide video and was wondering why didn't you posted this yet!
@zookeeper2103
@zookeeper2103 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a worthwhile upgrade if you don't already have this chain as separate plugins or need a bit of assistance from the "AI" to start you up. Thanks for sharing you view and great nails :)
@DeadRosesofficialYT
@DeadRosesofficialYT Жыл бұрын
what song was used in the video?
@Larsec
@Larsec Жыл бұрын
Sage Audio used it in one of their tutorials as well. They were kind enough to inform me it's 'Someone I Used to Know' by Loving Caliber :)
@mike_likes_sludge
@mike_likes_sludge Жыл бұрын
I love your videos and insight most of the time, but do you mix/master anything other than light pop rock and Darude? Ozone 10 (and every prior version) is a pretty powerful suite of plugs/modules, but you gave it about 5 minutes lol It may not be the be all end all, but what is?
@straypacket
@straypacket Жыл бұрын
Ok, that song is now stuck in my head...
@BartWronsk
@BartWronsk Жыл бұрын
To me an expander + soft clipper makes a lot of sense. Expander can emphasize a snappy transient lasting for example 15ms and then the clipper just shaves off less than 1ms. Also I’m shocked that more limiters don’t support hybrid limiter + clipper, most modern music uses clippers and they can sound more natural and less flat than limiters. One can always use separate plugins and tweak them separately for more control, but if they are designed to work together, possibly the result can be better? Also, more convenient for homemade “DIY masters” that are for a quick preview or sharing track sketches (target audience of Ozone I believe), not the final professional expert master.
@FredDeMassiveAlambic
@FredDeMassiveAlambic Жыл бұрын
take a deep dive into most famous modern limiters, you won't be shocked anymore
@hrtbt
@hrtbt Жыл бұрын
For me the best feature would be 4K support. Is it a thing with IO10?
@marchoffmann163
@marchoffmann163 Жыл бұрын
Last Neutron update still doesn’t have HighDPI support and the hotline told me, it will come some day…. So I don’t think, Ozone 10 will have it…. but plz correct me, if I’m wrong.
@christopherlee4648
@christopherlee4648 Жыл бұрын
I'm a total noob with ozone... But I can't seem to figure out how to change volume from section to section in stand alone app... Doesn't this make the standalone useless??? Makes no sense to me 😞someone please tell me I just don't know how or where to do it... I just want 1 more DB for the chorus to hit harder... For now I'm just going to do it in the daw using automation.
@werewolfmedialv
@werewolfmedialv Жыл бұрын
it's not a daw. You are already doing it correctly.
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
Try making long fades by 2db and also the same with width a bit. and perhaps dropping the treble by a db with a fade. and if you have a double chorus you could make something a bit lower in the second half of each chorus. hihats and some percussions perhaps and then raise them back up again for the second run of the chorus.
@zuluripper
@zuluripper Жыл бұрын
That Stabilizer kinda reminds me of Gullfoss with the general frequency balanance and simple eq/tilt.
@BartekEVH
@BartekEVH Жыл бұрын
The same
@everybodyhasoul5438
@everybodyhasoul5438 Жыл бұрын
Just commented the same lol
@sainsay
@sainsay Жыл бұрын
But it seems to goals are slightly different. Gullfoss always felt like a tool to help me get some air and brightness while removing some resonance. Looking at stabilizer it feels like it focusses more on just removing resonance and flattening the eq graph. Good to see different companies having a different take on a similar concept
@BartekEVH
@BartekEVH Жыл бұрын
@@sainsay Sculptor??
@UTOBY
@UTOBY Жыл бұрын
TEOTE from Voxengo is closet to Stabilizer I think. But it 'only' has 64 bands and three target spectrum (Flat == pink noise, Flat + Loudness == well Pinknoise with more low and high, and EQL+Rock == pink noise plus loudness plus a boost uhm 3.5 khz?) But, yeah, I only use it so see what may be 'wrong' in the mix and fix it there, if I have the mix.
@umanoid1523
@umanoid1523 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately it wont run on my ancient mac. Its my OS. There may be a solution for the OS but my machine struggles to run an instance of Ozone 9 after mixing and mastering and soft synths.
@Beatsbasteln
@Beatsbasteln Жыл бұрын
i'm personally not a fan of transient shapers and i'd especially not use them in mastering, because wether they correctly detect a transient or not can be a bit random. first of all the timing can be imprecise, but on top of that even the entire triggering can be imprecise and you might have it sometimes pick a transient where there is none. i have not tested this particular plugin's transient shaper, the impact module, but every single transient shaper i ever tested was like that, even oeksound spiff, so i just don't think it can be used a lot of times. these kinda things work well on little drum loops, to spice things up, but not on a full master, where dynamic things can happen, unless this transient shaper has some secret trick that prevents it from making these types of mistakes. gotta say tho, i like that ozone plays with the transients in general. like crushing them, then bringing them back a bit again and then crushing them again, but in different ways. it's not just a question of more or less transients, but every one of these stages forms the character of the transients, their shape and colour. so even if it's a lot of back-and-forth, it can make sense in the end (ignoring that there's a transient shaper in it).
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
The best sounding multiband transient designer is Elevate from Newfangled Audio, but very, very CPU intensive. 24 bands, you can mix between single band or multiband, and the character for the transients (faster high frequency transients or slower high frequency and faster lower high frequency). Ridiculously good on drums, more natural than Split EQ.
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
@@saricubra2867 and a mix alternative to that would be Boz Transgressor where you can manually set the rate at which it detects transients. Ozones impact module also has the ability to change the detection rate and even sync it to tempo if you want. but impact is more subtle and about matching dynamics rather than bringing out the quickest transients.
@Harrysound
@Harrysound Жыл бұрын
is there something wrong with the audio in this video
@braddasseymusic
@braddasseymusic Жыл бұрын
I really am digging this track. Where can I hear it?
@LeGaLdeadparliament
@LeGaLdeadparliament Жыл бұрын
have you found it? :) looking for this song too.
@kadiummusic
@kadiummusic Жыл бұрын
TDR Limiter 6 GE... I got into Ozone right at the very beginning when it was fairly simple and I was very inexperienced so it was perfect for me. Now that I am far more proficient in mixing and mastering I listen to the track and decide step by step what is the right tool for the job that is needed. The Tokyo Dawn suite of plugins is superb and I don't think I will ever go back to the Ozone method. 😎
@TheBeeOBee
@TheBeeOBee Жыл бұрын
What is that torture device you have in front of you? They don't have tlm102's or normal sized mics in your country?
@peterheinen6110
@peterheinen6110 Жыл бұрын
Amazing! But... this mastering bundle (it definitely is NOT a channel strip) can send you down the rabbit hole before you take your first break from tweaking. I think it is aimed at PRO studios that have to work lightning fast, just not the way i organize my workflow.
@tkelong3569
@tkelong3569 Жыл бұрын
It’s not the same as the mastering services. After you run Ozone 10 you can continue to make adjustments to your track. That makes it almost nothing like the mastering services where after a couple of tries at mastering, you get what you’ve got. MaSsive difference.
@Gallanitte
@Gallanitte Жыл бұрын
I have Ozone 9 advanced and am on the fence about the upgrade. I use the assistant, so having additional adjustments to the AI's suggestions like in Neutron 4 makes sense. The new modules look like features for people who master with no access to the mix, yet Ozone is no longer available as a standalone plugin, which does not make sense. Since the Soundwide umbrella is now offering Izotope products along Native Instruments bundles, an upgrade for Komplete 14 which has Ozone 10 standard included and keeping Ozone 9 advanced is probably what I'll do.
@billpodolak7754
@billpodolak7754 Жыл бұрын
Ozone is still fully available as a plugin. It's the standalone mastering application outside the DAW that isn't supported anymore. The vast majority of people use the plugins in a DAW, so the development team was better off focusing on that. It took a lot of time and effort to support the standalone application, unfortunately
@emmitbrooks9909
@emmitbrooks9909 Жыл бұрын
I bought Ozone 10 Advanced since I liked the Standalone option in Ozone 9 Advanced. Now I find the Standalone has been eliminated. Not happy about that. I do not like having to use it as a plugin in a DAW.
@TheCraigAnderton
@TheCraigAnderton Жыл бұрын
FWIW to clarify about transients, maximizers are basically limiters, so they take care of the "big" peaks that bump up against headroom. However, there are still peaks happening below the maximizer's threshold, like from hand percussion. Applying transient shaping *only* to lower-level signals can emphasize these transients. I don't know if this is what Ozone 10 is doing, but it's a valid technique. Of course, it's better to have used transient shaping while mixing, not mastering. That way you can focus only on transients for specific instruments instead of painting with a broad brush.
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions Жыл бұрын
Like my Ozone 9 and Neutron 3, not sure if ill upgrade for the 200US I like the idea of stabilizer and Impact for quick masters of demos and such. The delta and solo buttons allowing us to hear what happens is awesome and the opposite of snake oil. I like clipping on dance tracks so I don't mind having it as an option.
@jg916
@jg916 Жыл бұрын
Do you use Soothe 2? Stabilizer looks similar to soothe
@Flenz
@Flenz Жыл бұрын
@@jg916 more like Gullfoss EQ as it smoothes out the whole frequency spectrum
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
@@jg916 the stabilizer doesn't do the same thing soothe does. the stabilizer is dynamically matching to a genre average sound so you dont have to get your mix colored too much by the locked in place EQ matching it does. also soothe really has this harmonic precision to reduce harshness of sounds. the stabilizer is smoother and not as surgical. so to reduce harshness theres another module called spectral shaper for that. and that tool is closer to soothe but has a different approach to taming harshness.
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
@@Flenz Gullfoss is a closer match with the stabilizer yes, but it's still not quite the same thing. Gullfoss has sort of pink noise target, while the stabilizer has a genre target. The stabilizer actually does dynamic eq matching rather than flattening the sound. but if you just want to flatten the sound you have the cut mode in the stabilizer which will tame some frequency buildups that pokes out.
@diego102292
@diego102292 7 ай бұрын
man your my favourite plugin channell ! great info and knowledge and even if its not for me i always learn something from your inside
@peterheinen6110
@peterheinen6110 Жыл бұрын
I invested in Alloy 2 as a channel strip and it did amazing things to my trained ears. So yes, iZotope does amazing things for mixing. Mastering, still don't now from some introductory demo's
@abrotherinchrist
@abrotherinchrist Жыл бұрын
Convoluted. I won't be upgrading, especially since their upgrade prices are ridiculous, even on sale. I really only use their maximizer plugin and occasionally throw in the imager. The assistant EQ is almost always way too much in the highs. I feel like if I have to go back and make adjustments I might as well spend the time to think ahead what I want to do. I have Sonible, Gullfoss and Fabfilter and often times find myself gravitating towards these. If I want a transient designer I'll probably just buy the best: Punctuate. If I want to "recover sides" I'll go back to my mix and address something with a mid-side EQ. If I want to clip something I'll use something with soft and/or hard clipping options, in the mix or master depending. The more I design and shape audio the more I realize that you really need to have good ear and a vision for the final product as well as a willingness to experiment to get great results. You can't rush a good thing. The problem I have with Izotope is they are trying to make mixing and mastering accessible by dumbing it down. Basically, if you don't know what you're doing to the sound then why do it? One example, if you want to mess with the transients why not use something like Punctuate (or SplitEQ or Physion), a plugin that isn't dumbed down and makes you think before you tweak?
@realraven2000
@realraven2000 Жыл бұрын
5:30 "for streaming you should be at -14db. Go a little bit above it." to -9db , got it!
@levondarratt787
@levondarratt787 Жыл бұрын
LMAO....a little above is -13.... -9 is another universe...
@realraven2000
@realraven2000 Жыл бұрын
@@levondarratt787 you didn't get the joke.
@DavidRavenMoon
@DavidRavenMoon Жыл бұрын
I use Ozone 9 for mastering. It’s amazing. This is very different looking!
@ZeroStateReflex
@ZeroStateReflex Жыл бұрын
I used 9 for mastering as well and was a little nervous given the UI change for 10,..I thought maybe the "candification" of the UI meant it wasn't really that different. Though I liked 9 so much I wanted to try it. I purchased the advanced and A/B tested on tracks that I had already used 9 on. The difference was significant. 10 preformed, imo, much better. Louder, brighter, and significantly more "automatic." Would recommend if you liked 9! Cheers!
@DavidRavenMoon
@DavidRavenMoon Жыл бұрын
@@ZeroStateReflex Yes, just got 10. I like it.
@ZeroStateReflex
@ZeroStateReflex Жыл бұрын
@@DavidRavenMoon Nice!
@joldschool64
@joldschool64 Жыл бұрын
Are you mastering a track that's already been mastered or is this an unmaster track?
@dalephillips7873
@dalephillips7873 Жыл бұрын
Re: the DJ and Streaming button. Which is the way to go for Music Publishers, Music Libraries and Sync etc, briefs and submissions for Film and TV? Cheers
@richertz
@richertz Жыл бұрын
So I have been playing with a lot of mastering plugins over the last year. Honestly although it seems like we are bouncing back and forth with transients, what we are doing is throwing loads of precise control in mastering. As someone who has been at this for some time, here is my perspective. Ozone is probably all you need along with maybe a few master bus compressor types for mixing into, thats the first thing. Second, if you find yourself pulling your mix apart, look at what you are doing and go back to the mix to achieve as much as you can until you literally use this plugin to do no more than 5% at the end. Once you can do this, I say you can run free. Problem is to get this good, you'll be over 40 and past it.... but anythings possible lol😄
@gooshie3
@gooshie3 Жыл бұрын
Just been playing with it for a few hours myself. it's ok but the same old thing with the assistant, though- The results can vary wildly if you put the exact same piece of music through it more than once. I trust my ears and I think that often, the simplest approach is best when it comes to mastering. I'll stick with equilibrium and the ds1.
@nicholassturgess-monks4458
@nicholassturgess-monks4458 Жыл бұрын
It’s designed to give you different results when you reprocess the same audio. The AI is a learning AI, and so it assumes it got the processing wrong the first time if you choose to re-parse the music.
@gooshie3
@gooshie3 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholassturgess-monks4458 My ears say it rarely gets close, so I ask myself what's the point. Just train your ears.
@nicholassturgess-monks4458
@nicholassturgess-monks4458 Жыл бұрын
@@gooshie3 Well, I'd agree with you there to be honest, however the modules themselves (ignoring the AI assistant entirely) are actually extremely powerful, and it's quite useful having them all packed into a single host. Personally I tend to use Softube's Weiss series of plugins because I absolutely adore the creaminess of the sound that I'm able to get out of them, but Ozone is extremely powerful and a solid tool nonetheless.
@gooshie3
@gooshie3 Жыл бұрын
@@nicholassturgess-monks4458 Can't go wrong with Weiss. I always thought the Izotope maximizer and RX were among the best software available. The new stablizer in cut mode seems to be excellent too. It's just that I don't think the ai will be there for a few years yet.
@nicholassturgess-monks4458
@nicholassturgess-monks4458 Жыл бұрын
@@gooshie3 Yeah, I certainly don't see anything that makes me want to pay to upgrade from Ozone 9. I might be cheeky and email Izotope to see if I can get a free upgrade out of them though hahaha.
@tunesquid
@tunesquid Жыл бұрын
Not worth the upgrade for me. I only use Ozone 9 as a final step and get the bulk of my processing done beforehand. I also typically only master my own music so I have no need for most of this. I find that for certain styles, Ozone's limiters can massively overdo it or change the character of the song, but using subtle settings to get the last little bit is really nice. I also quite like their multi-band saturation module. The compressors just don't do it for me though.
@TheStudioDrummer
@TheStudioDrummer Жыл бұрын
What compressors do you like/use?
@tobiaslofi
@tobiaslofi Жыл бұрын
That -1dB true peak has been a thing at least since Ozone 9 or 8 (I forgot what version I have, but mine has it too)
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
in the streaming setting it puts it in -1db true peak. and the dj setting it sets it to -0.1db and leaves true peak disabled.
@thedigitalguitarist3541
@thedigitalguitarist3541 Жыл бұрын
Impact... I do not think that word means what you think it means. My understanding is that it compresses or expands based on amplitude rather than frequency, so instead of freq bands you have amplitude bands. While this can have a strong effect on transients it could also be used to bring up the middle amppliudes like oxford inflator or any number of other things. The inflator aspect is what I hear both in use and on the deltas as useful sometimes.
@repasiv
@repasiv Жыл бұрын
I have been using ozone since version 4 but I feel like this will be the first major update I am not upgrading to. I found myself lately making kind of a pre-master with different plugins, like the sonible smarteq and finish it with the tc finalizer. I feel like I am getting better results more easily. I am a hobbyist and my skills as a musician, engineer as well as my hearing is limited.
@cassetteo
@cassetteo Жыл бұрын
iZotope and NI are slackin big time..... Companies that used to reign over the plugin world are slowly becoming cringe tools for babies
@nicholassturgess-monks4458
@nicholassturgess-monks4458 Жыл бұрын
Yes, Ozone’s mastering assistant tool is really more for home producers, or for professional mastering that needs to be done quickly. If you know what you’re doing, you will almost always get better results yourself, but it will likely take you a bit longer to get there. I generally use it as a kind of pre-master state, but then take the time to do an actual mastering run by hand, treating the settings it gives me as suggestions and using my ear to get things where I want them so that the important elements are allowed sufficient space in the mix. But that part can be quite time consuming sometimes 😅
@repasiv
@repasiv Жыл бұрын
@@nicholassturgess-monks4458 I was surprised by the tc finalizer. it is standalone and self contained, which is a pro and a con, but with its limitations it still gives you quick very good results. It's been featured on this channel like 2 years ago or so. It came out very quietly and seemed avoided everybody's' attention.
@nicholassturgess-monks4458
@nicholassturgess-monks4458 Жыл бұрын
@@repasiv Yeah I vaguely remember the snake-oil video (very vaguely). It was a bit over my head at the time, so I've not actually checked it out. Maybe I should give it a look!
@michaelknight141
@michaelknight141 Жыл бұрын
It’s fascinating to me, how you understand all this stuff so easily and what it does. Real talent there.
@valoelios40
@valoelios40 Жыл бұрын
Well, it is only natural once you have been working with all the standard music production processes for years. But there is fascination in learning indeed!
@joanna439
@joanna439 Жыл бұрын
It's a Eureka moment, it's also a mystery and here is the secret..... read the manual!
@parasite-b9604
@parasite-b9604 Жыл бұрын
@@joanna439 Teach myself via reading..? How dare you! I am, of course, joking. I know 100% I have never read a manual for audio software. That might be why my mixes sound like shite! 😂
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 Жыл бұрын
What seems easy is more like a 10,000 hour rule.
@mrdjdd
@mrdjdd Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what sound treatment he sure fir his room?
@Whiteseastudio
@Whiteseastudio Жыл бұрын
Well, LennArt does use FIR 🤔
@BF-up5xw
@BF-up5xw Жыл бұрын
I have not been able to get comfortable with these assistants. If I understand what they are doing, I can do it myself; if I don't, then I don't know how to fix the mess that the assistant has made of my mix. A bit like quantising a rhythm - it's great if you want a certain kind of rhythm, but it can ruin other kinds. For those who know how to use these assistants to their advantage, I imagine it can be a great time saver. And with certain kinds of process, you need to be led somewhat by a computer analysis as there are too many factors. More importantly, it looks like the additional effects here make this a significant upgrade that could well be very good value for money compared to buying separate plugins, and will certainly have the workflow advantage of a unified, contained system.
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
I once tried ozone 3 and i didnt like it. then i got back into ozone in version 8, then 9 and i can say with a clear concience that ozone 10 is a huge upgrade. It sounds so much better than the previous versions as far as the assistant goes. This time around you can pretty much run the assistant and leave it at that as a final master and it will be release ready if the mix doesn't have too many problems getting in the way of the assistant doing its magic. But ofc dial things into taste because that what its all about. but the assistant may very well fix some problems for you so you can get to the creative part of mastering right away. all the new features is ofc useful for mastering completely manually too. But i would still consider using eventide elevate limiter for its many bands if you want to get louder without sounding squashed. some of ozones maximizers limiter algorithms have spectral dynamics but you don't have the same control over it as you do with elevate. Another thing i do sometimes is att slates mo-tt before ozone to add touch of extra glue going into the rest of the mastering with ozone 10.
@billpodolak7754
@billpodolak7754 Жыл бұрын
Could be useful to treat the assistant like a second opinion. That way you can shoot it out against your master and even if there's just one move that the assistant made that's an improvement it could be worth it.
@BF-up5xw
@BF-up5xw Жыл бұрын
@@billpodolak7754 I'm sure you're right; but it is important to understand what they are doing to get the full benefit. So you might need quite a lot of understanding to make good use of them in that way.
@Galaxis-X
@Galaxis-X Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother i always enjoy watching your straight forward point of view on your channel , so i thanks to you i decided to upgrade from Ozone9 Advanced to Ozone10 Advanced 🍻♥️
Жыл бұрын
The impact module is a multiband compressor with mid-side capabilities, I think
@billpodolak7754
@billpodolak7754 Жыл бұрын
It's also an expander, and it's a different DSP because normally you need to adjust threshold and ratio. Impact just has an amount control where up=expansion and down=compression.
@TheQxY
@TheQxY Жыл бұрын
@@billpodolak7754 Yeah so then it's a dynamic EQ instead of a multiband compressor. I think Wytse was right that it is more of a dynamic transient EQ, as when he pressed the delta button you could hear a quite sharp pumping effect, which is similar to what a delta of a transient shaper would sound like. They either achieve this by using some sort of gate like in a classical transient shaper, or they use spectral processing to separate the sound into it's harmonic and noise components and then just boost the transient part, which is similar to what Split EQ does I believe.
@billpodolak7754
@billpodolak7754 Жыл бұрын
@@TheQxY it's actually something entirely new. If you're curious (and scientifically minded) you can read this white paper written by the iZotope research team that describes the new Impact DSP and microdynamics matching that the assistant does: dafx2020.mdw.ac.at/proceedings/papers/DAFx20in22_paper_21.pdf
@gelatinous6915
@gelatinous6915 Жыл бұрын
The huge emphasis on multiband processing (and Ozone in general) is a bit like fast food. It's quick and instantly gratifying, but in the end, it will never have the same nuance and depth as a five star restaraunt. I could definitely see it being useful for underground musicians wanting to play WIP tracks at clubs or send demos to labels, but the "flatten everything with flashy multiband processers" approach will never substitute for a proper master.
@J77199
@J77199 Жыл бұрын
What?
@matdan2
@matdan2 Жыл бұрын
You're making it sound like every mastering engineer masters to a set goal, one that will always be better than software. That's just untrue, it's about the ear and not so much the tools used. Anyone not experienced - Don't listen to this daft gate-keeping rubbish.
@levondarratt787
@levondarratt787 Жыл бұрын
MB is to fix specific problems....it should never be a standard Go to...It ruins a good mix easily, phase issues,. Great for trailer music, and commercial turnaround where quality doesn't mater so much. AS for music release, not so much.
@joshuaswannmusic6462
@joshuaswannmusic6462 Жыл бұрын
I’m probably somewhat ignorant of something here but I find it very difficult to trust the mastering assistant to make decisions other than loudness. The adaptive EQ looks very useful with problem areas.
@nrosko
@nrosko Жыл бұрын
not an ozone user but they do a pretty good job with the GUI imo.
@harryshadow2059
@harryshadow2059 Жыл бұрын
Clipping and reintroducing transients is an extremely common thing to do in curtain styles of music..
@alfredgrupstra
@alfredgrupstra Жыл бұрын
The Ozone hype! Understand me, it's a good program but mastering is possible with other good software. Besides, I like to do mastering stand-alone so it's a shame there's no stand alone version anymore. The new version has no Impact on me, so I stick to what I have.
@digitalmarketinghumans
@digitalmarketinghumans Жыл бұрын
Love that intro transition of let's get started...(fades into intro) lmao Also I am loving the new Izotope Ozone 10. I have the annual subscription, and to me, it's worth it.
@BobbyCrane
@BobbyCrane Жыл бұрын
whats this actual song?
@Larsec
@Larsec Жыл бұрын
Sage Audio used it in one of their tutorials as well. They were kind enough to inform me it's 'Someone I Used to Know' by Loving Caliber :)
@conz_tee
@conz_tee Жыл бұрын
would be nice to compare the stabilizer modul to gullfoss ... !
@GingerDrums
@GingerDrums Жыл бұрын
Not good advice on the limiting :( make sure the track is as oud as you can get it whilst sounding good, don't worry about -14. The browser version of Spotify does not loudness normalise.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
I reach -14dB with the mix, not with the master bus.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
@@DerSilvano I think -14LUFS is the same as -14 dBFS RMS.
@huberttorzewski
@huberttorzewski Жыл бұрын
yeah, I see this BS about -14 and -1dB TP all the time - the song sounds best at the level it sounds best no matter if it's -14 or -6LUFS and true-peak limiting always sound pretty bad tbh. I always prefer the sound of clipping or PCM limiting vs true-peak limiting.
@saricubra2867
@saricubra2867 Жыл бұрын
@@DerSilvano Not only hearing loss, but speakers or headphones that don't have very high sensibility (maybe struggle on transient response?). I target between -24LUFS and -14LUFS. My headphones are 16ohms with a sensibility around 110dB. -14LUFS is too much for me for an entire song, but for a chorus or something like that is fine.
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
@@saricubra2867 i get to about -9db in the mix and then i aim for -7db in the master if i want keep up with the loudness standards for dj use. i usally go no louder than -6.4 short term for EDM. for steaming i just go as loud as i need to get the energy i want out of the mix. and its usually around -9lufs short term i don't care too much about integrated lufs unless i master an album.
@ctgameovermusic
@ctgameovermusic Жыл бұрын
wouldn't something that identify the transient allow you to reduce them more especially for someone who doesn't fully understand how to find them, remember its a mastering assistant
@Pszemko
@Pszemko Жыл бұрын
Stabilizer looks a bil Gullfossy! Awesome content as usual, downloading the newer version right now :)
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
compared to gullfoss the stabilizer specifically target different genres of music rather than simply flattening the frequency spectrum. Ozone 10 is a huge upgrade from the previous version. 8 to 9 meh, 9 to 10 whoaa!
@levondarratt787
@levondarratt787 Жыл бұрын
cheap version of Gulfoss yeah...cant touch Gulfoss Mastering Edition.
@Pszemko
@Pszemko Жыл бұрын
@@levondarratt787 lol, maybe.
@devangmaheshwari3902
@devangmaheshwari3902 Жыл бұрын
Song name please ?
@Larsec
@Larsec Жыл бұрын
Sage Audio used it in one of their tutorials as well. They were kind enough to inform me it's 'Someone I Used to Know' by Loving Caliber :)
@RayoBeatz
@RayoBeatz Жыл бұрын
i only bought so i can cross upgrade to when they finally get it right to the point where i can just focus on singing and they can litterly mix and master it all for me through an A.I. and have it sound exactly like a charts song.
@billysaint4981
@billysaint4981 Жыл бұрын
Is it good for dubstep
@PabloMessier
@PabloMessier Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if i'm going to buy Ozone10, yes there are some really nice features in there, but nothing that Ozono 9 can't handle, the impact module? well it's ok, the stabilizer well i've use the Gullfoss EQ from sound theory and it has a better implementation, but the feature that really screws it up big time is the master assistant, i've test it with five great mixes and for all five mixes gives me the same suggestion with the same five modules and it gives really weird results, what it's doing is that is basically taking your signal and using targets to matc it, throwing all kinds of processing that might not be needed, so yep i'll pass this one.
@Phat-Monkey
@Phat-Monkey Жыл бұрын
The imager is actually pretty good, u can narrow the stereo info then bring it back in making it mono compatible, in fact as a standalone module this could be handy in the mix, reminds me of DrMS a little.
@LondonSteveLee
@LondonSteveLee Жыл бұрын
Pretty much the same imager as the last couple of releases of Ozone.
@billpodolak7754
@billpodolak7754 Жыл бұрын
@@LondonSteveLee new DSP was added to the Imager for Recover Sides. It just wasn't covered in this video
@levondarratt787
@levondarratt787 Жыл бұрын
DRMS is king - unfortunately extremely expensive, rarely updated, and hard on the eyes... M. Lane needs to do sales for 49.99 ...too many plugins out there that empty our wallets.
@Phat-Monkey
@Phat-Monkey Жыл бұрын
@@levondarratt787 it is expensive, but it is also a good investment, as for updates it works fine, not sure if there is an M1 support. It is above all one of them industry secrets that hardly anyone covers to keep it that way :)
@eccentricworx
@eccentricworx Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! Btw, Love your Nail Polish. 😁
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