This is the Best Laptop (for me). - HP Elite Dragonfly G4
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:36 Unboxing
1:55 Physical tour
4:00 Durability of the G3
4:20 The Display
6:35 So why do I like it?
9:48 Performance & Specs
12:08 Gaming
12:34 Speakers
13:52 Webcam
14:39 Teardown & Upgradability
17:01 Price
@GreenFox1505 3 ай бұрын
They should divorce themselves from their printer division because when I hear HP, now all I think about is their printer trying to become a subscription.
@ETHANR26 3 ай бұрын
those printers are just skynet
@OccupiedMuffins 3 ай бұрын
100% agree, their printer division is REALLY dragging the hp name through the mud
@JulioMigSantos 3 ай бұрын
HP has been awful quality for ages, laptops included, they only started to make a come back in the past 10 years which much better laptops. Their laser printers are not bad either I have a laser 1022n from like WW2 era and it still prints like a champ and refills are super cheap
@TrueMinuteman 3 ай бұрын
Totally agree specially after owning one of those damned printers
@asnaeb2 3 ай бұрын
HP provides israel's computer system for facial recognition on Palestinians. Boycott HP!
@adequatequality 3 ай бұрын
ShortCircuit and their obsession with not putting the item being reviewed in the title will always amaze me
@RAH012 3 ай бұрын
not a review........
@FinneasJedidiah 3 ай бұрын
First, it's an unboxing, not a review. Second, they do what helps the most people see their videos. Blame the people using KZfaq/the algorithm.
@Pr0toPoTaT0 3 ай бұрын
@@RAH012he's just flexing his shitty HP.
@metallurgico 3 ай бұрын
there is a link in the video description if you really want to know more about it
@ofekbiger8557 3 ай бұрын
But they do put names in the titles..? just look at the last 10 or so videos, names are in the title
@Samuel.55 3 ай бұрын
If you want to charge this laptop, you need buy HP’s proprietary electricity. Any other electricity may transfer malware
@r.b.ratieta6111 3 ай бұрын
Shh, don't give HP any ideas.
@leonro 3 ай бұрын
I actually heard of a laptop from Lenovo charging over USB, but the charger was proprietary and no third party PD charger would work. It's not just HP being shady in laptopland (though HP is an incredibly sketchy company all-round, so definitely don't trust them).
@tiagobelo4965 3 ай бұрын
@@leonro huh, weird, luckily enough my Lenovo has one of those wonky looking fat rectangular charging ports, so at least if I get a third party charger it'll work if it has the right plug
@leonro 3 ай бұрын
@@tiagobelo4965 I also had one of those with the rectangular plug. The laptop itself was pretty decent, but it had a really bad chassis. They used such a cheap plastic that after roughly 2.5 years it was cracking all over the place, rendering my headphone jack unusable, and the plastic threads holding the screen hinge broke as well.
@DizzyBusy 3 ай бұрын
Lol!
@joonglegamer9898 3 ай бұрын
LOL, I checked our Swedish HP site, the CHEAPEST one starts at 2100 USD, and the one you recommended comes in at a cheap 2790 USD, yeah - nope lol.
@Jaxv3r 3 ай бұрын
Because tax is already included in the price while here in Canada and America they don't include it, so that's why it's annoying for me to buy anything especially electronics I have to imagine 30$-100$ when I put it on the counter or cart.
@T0DD 3 ай бұрын
You could get a framework for that price
@tuannguyenminh2870 3 ай бұрын
@@T0DD the framework isn't that good.
@perseus31 3 ай бұрын
Its the nworst laptop they reviewed. Between 1k to 2k you can find A LOT OF laptops that are way better. Just go buy M3 Pro Macbook Pro.. Even my M1 Air is way better after the price
@SweetSweetCandyBoyz 3 ай бұрын
@@perseus31I was going to say the same thing
@alg003 3 ай бұрын
That thing is over 2 grand not including tax. not even a dedicated GPU, only 16 gigs of ram, and only half a tb of storage, now that's actually a rip off. Shame on you HP.
@TheXlen 3 ай бұрын
Eh, that's not the actual business pricing that you'd pay for it, that's the "I want to show off I'm business man" pricing, the going price is for the i5 16GB 512 with touch is around 1k€
@tiagobelo4965 3 ай бұрын
@@TheXlenmate, with the upgrades I put on it (16gb ram kit, the original stick was reused to upgrade my brother'd laptop), my laptop, with a 3050, ryzen 5 5600h, the cooling to keep up pretty well woth both, and 1.5tb of M.2 SSDs, whilst not really lagging behind this thing's display still cost me under 1k€ with tax
@PeakDecline 3 ай бұрын
@@tiagobelo4965 "Mate" you're talking about a much larger laptop.
@sihamhamda47 3 ай бұрын
The fact that with those price you can get a Ryzen 9 + RTX 4070 laptop instead
@TheXlen 3 ай бұрын
@@sihamhamda47 given that this is a business laptop class, gaming hardware is no concern for competition
@Bleuducky 3 ай бұрын
It sounded like the only thing this laptop does really well is the keyboard
@perseus31 3 ай бұрын
And he still said its worse than a Macbook its crazy. Just buy a huawei 14s or 16s and call it the best even that one is better than this Edit: Sorry he says MacBook is an A- because it's just as fast but not that satisfying. Just buy MacBook Pro guys..
@wuroiz8848 3 ай бұрын
@@perseus31no he didn’t say that
@fug33 3 ай бұрын
keyboard + great port selection (no dongle life) + excellent build quality + screen is color accurate
@perseus31 3 ай бұрын
@wuroiz8848 Sorry I understood wrong. He says its Just as fast but not as satisfying as 2k overpriced hp laptop. If you're willing to gice 2k for a laptop, please try to find another A+ keyboard laptop not this overpriced thing that's what I tried to say.
@nnnnnn3647 3 ай бұрын
they pay for ad.
@fish9468 3 ай бұрын
A laptop should do everything decently, the display latency built in should be the dealbreaker. For $1800, a 1080p responsive display should be the absolute minimum.
@pk9580 3 ай бұрын
Exactly, how did they even manage that high responses? ASUS has oleds that have better response than gaming laptops, like 0.2ms
@nicholasfaber9695 3 ай бұрын
@@pk9580oleds are literally renowned for their response times so not exactly a comparison
@theDitchdigger456 3 ай бұрын
honestly 1080p period at that price should be a deal breaker imo
@jehhh7794 3 ай бұрын
@@pk9580because it's an OLED... And OLEDs inherently are just better
@ZQM-cx8fn 3 ай бұрын
@@theDitchdigger456It’s for productivity. Most people are using excel and other office products on it. A high response or high resolution doesn’t matter. People are paying for build quality and IO.
@MartinStrazynski 3 ай бұрын
*signal interrupted* 'PIXEL RESPONSE TIME'
@lopwidth7343 3 ай бұрын
Shitty laggy display lol
@Itbankrock 3 ай бұрын
Poor pixel response time = instant no for me lol.
@PFnove 3 ай бұрын
@@Itbankrockwhen it's a little bad you can live iwth it, but that was like 30-40ms of latency
@giulioganzerli2233 3 ай бұрын
Wow! A display like that on a machine that expensive is just bad imo. Personally I had experiences with several HP laptops at various price points. And now after those I just avoid anything from HP. My favourite anecdote is when an Envy x360's hinge broke as I was opening the laptop, cracking the screen in the process. Mind you, the laptop had less than a year. But the reason for the failure was that in a laptop with an all-aluminum body the hinges were screwed (with metal screws) to a hard plastic plate, that broke. And all the other laptops were plagued with issues that made me feel like I was being scammed every time. And don't get me started on printers.
@fabiandrinksmilk6205 3 ай бұрын
I think the resolution is fine since it's supposed to have a long lasting battery life. Some brands just slap on a 4K display and talk about how much pixels it has while tanking the battery for negligible difference in overall experience.
@leonro 3 ай бұрын
I had the same issue with the hinge breaking on a Lenovo laptop, but the display itself was fine (probably because of the large bezels).
@jothain 3 ай бұрын
HP is really bad quality stuff. No matter what the product line is. I can't recall any laptop or printer I've ever had from HP that hasn't failed somehow in fairly short time. Also at work when displays have failed, they've all been HP's.
@eTiMaGo 3 ай бұрын
We've had a few HP laptops over the years, the display has always been the weak point... My colleague had an Elitebook, needed to have the screen replaced twice... I had an Envy with a 3K screen, quite nice to look at but just so dim (kinda like me i guess). And now I have an older Firefly model, and the screen has weird issues with ghosting, color saturation being out of whack if the brightness is not at 100%... But otherwise yes, they do feel quite nice and solidly built, it's a shame...
@leonro 3 ай бұрын
@@jothain I have a Windows XP laptop from HP that's relatively decent for what it is, and has held up fairly well. In fact, it can still work on battery for a little while. Otherwise, all of my more recent HP products (laptops and printers mostly) have been... problematic, to say the least.
@serowi2337 3 ай бұрын
endurance test at 720p is wild, your not spend $2200 to watch videos at 720p
@Collin_J 3 ай бұрын
I think it's what KZfaq default to now, and the majority of users don't change it (I agree with you though)
@kahtyman7293 3 ай бұрын
@@Collin_J that's odd, i allways end up with 4k if available then 1080p
@rockstarduh5 3 ай бұрын
At the distances people sit from their laptops typically, 720p is completely fine for KZfaq
@g2fiora 3 ай бұрын
yeah maybe you crank it as much as you can on pc, but on laptops and phones where battery life matters 720p is a decent sweet spot to decrease power usage while still not destroying image quality @@kahtyman7293
@isaacstoltz9776 3 ай бұрын
could make sense from a battery life perspective. If you think about it, the screen isn't very large, lighting conditions probably aren't controlled, etc. There's more variables to the experience than resolution and bitrate, but if the bitrate is good enough (and the res is at that size) or if you just don't care it makes a lot of sense if you're a student or at work and need your battery to last as long as possible between charges under a light load.
@LukaSauperl 3 ай бұрын
The speakers were not the same... At least not from what I could hear.
@lucasrem 3 ай бұрын
hear on KZfaq ?
@LukaSauperl 3 ай бұрын
@@lucasrem while it is true that due to KZfaq’s processing you can’t really judge the audio, but what you can do is hear the difference, and with these laptops I hear a difference.
@jonny4036 3 ай бұрын
Literally version of this G4 on HP's website right now on sale for $979.00. 16gb RAM. Touch screen display. 512GB storage and Intel Core i5-1335U.
@TheXlen 3 ай бұрын
Yeah that's generally around their going business pricing for that setup
@jorgebustillos8469 3 ай бұрын
16gb ram is like 3 tabs + 1 720p video tops
@TheXlen 3 ай бұрын
@@jorgebustillos8469 I mean given that these kinds of laptops are almost exclusively used by upper management type of people, who sit in teams meetings most of their day it doesn't matter
@d313m5 3 ай бұрын
@@jorgebustillos8469I can host a dedicated Minecraft server, play an e-sports title and a 4K video, and have Discord open in the background with no problem and I only have 16 GB of RAM.
@CheapBastard1988 3 ай бұрын
@@jorgebustillos8469Get a better browser.
@onirem4973 3 ай бұрын
As a guy that fixes these for a company, they are beauties inside The only gripe i have is that the lcd is stuck onto the lid, but at least the pull tabs don't break easy
@julfy_god 3 ай бұрын
to not have 7840u at this pricepoint is just a crime. likeee it's really not much better than some random $500-600 laptop, maybe keyboard and chassis are better, but are only these 2 things worth spending 1500 more? nope.
@AarPlays 3 ай бұрын
"I have a direct line to ms, so it's solved .... For this device specifically at Least" Ahh, good ol fragmentation
@RirtyDascal 3 ай бұрын
No way this cat gets that kinda volume without a blow dryer... Oh, and nice laptop. Edit: That's a big no from me after seeing the matte *and* dull display. I suspect I'll stick with my M1 Air for quite a while longer. Battery life is *still* absolutely amazing and I got mine very shortly after they were launched.
@andrewt9204 3 ай бұрын
I was looking for a windows thin and light, but I decided to try an M2 macbook air 15. I've been intrigued by apple silicon since it released. Best Buy had (still does as of this moment) the 16GB/512GB variant for $1400. I honestly thought I was going to return it but I actually really like it. I haven't had a mac in 15 years, and it took a long time to re-adjust. So now I have my work issued XPS 15 for windows, and the macbook air for when I really want some serious on the go battery life. It's pretty great. I prefer matte displays, but they have to be good. The XPS is definitely acceptable to me.
@beebs4881 3 ай бұрын
Wonder if you will need a subscription to print to a non-HP printer (which you need a subscription to use)
@ARCWoodCraft 3 ай бұрын
Well don’t GIVE them ideas!! 😂
@mehowme 3 ай бұрын
Nah, just to use the charger 😂
@AlJerry 3 ай бұрын
13:19 from the short direct head to head sound comparason i can definitely tell you that they're not the same, the new one has way less highs & sounds a bit muffled compared to the old one ;)
@codec_corner 3 ай бұрын
I think at LMG they use sennheiser mkh50s for the newer sets and 416s for the older setups. The 416s have a pretty cone-shaped pickup so if it's directly pointed at Alex, the mic may not pickup the laptop off to the side accurately
@AlJerry 3 ай бұрын
@@codec_corneryes, that could be the case or Alex have hearing problems :D
@oalfodr 3 ай бұрын
It is good that you mentioned that there is an buy option without the OS. I hate looking into laptops and seeing that I cannot opt out off a Windows licence I do not want
@NavyDood21 3 ай бұрын
Until recently, I would not have cared about that at all. But having switch to Linux, I cant imagine ever going back to Windows. Other than maybe dual booting. It is awesome to see, even if I am not actually in the market for a new laptop anytime soon.
@oalfodr 3 ай бұрын
@@NavyDood21 I mean the option to exclude the OS is not taking them any effort. But manufacturers almost always have mandatory OS for the profit margins. I really appreciate manufacturers not taking my money for Windows because I wouldn't even dual boot it. If I ever need to test how something would look like on Windows, I would just spin up a virtual machine that would be destroyed soon after and no license would be entered even if I had it
@fujinshu 3 ай бұрын
Finally, we have found the secret to increasing Linux adoption: removing the Windows license upcharge!
@kahtyman7293 3 ай бұрын
yeah, that's good, i don't want to stay with win11, i would install win10, any linux distro and win7 for work, just like i do with my laptop right now
@priyanshusharma1812 3 ай бұрын
@@oalfodrwhoa who told you they're not taking your money when giving you windows lol? If you get windows laptops that also have a non windows option, they're almost always 40-50 dollars more expensive, so you're paying more for something you probably wouldn't use or could've just pirated or got somewhere cheaper
@robertdascoli949 3 ай бұрын
5:30 There is no way you can have a pixel response time that terrible on a laptop from 2024 that costs more than $300. I was thinking of getting this cause I too value battery above all else, but god damn that's a non-starter.
@yukami_debian 3 ай бұрын
I feel like most people would be satisfied with an 840. no need for a $2800 laptop
@TheGodOfWar1337 3 ай бұрын
Or renewed modesl such the 845 Elitebook G8 on amazon are priced well imo. Kinda want to replace my 830 G7 with that .
@sauce8559 3 ай бұрын
Be aware that this Laptop will still have some small irregualer issues when using Linux. We use the G3 at Work (Also have some G4s for testing) and there are infrequent issues with the internal microphone and using lan over a dock. Otherwise this definetly is a very good device!
@lucasrem 3 ай бұрын
The Thunderbolt dock, what issues you have, you can't select all mics, only one ? LAN too, do you select the right nic ? Should work good with Unix
@sauce8559 3 ай бұрын
@@lucasrem You can select the internal mic, but its has issues where it randomly doesnt recognize the installed driver and so it wont work. same with the lan port. We are using Ubuntu.
@seabrookmx 3 ай бұрын
@@sauce8559 what's the battery life like under Ubuntu? I'm suffering with ~3hrs on my Framework 13 (12th gen) browsing and light coding :(
@K1lljoy73 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been using this laptop as my work laptop for a few months now and it is fantastic. Glad to hear Alex rave about it too.
@THE-X-Force 3 ай бұрын
Since they can never mention it up front .. it starts at $1,769 and the one being reviewed is $2,279. I kinda like to know how much things cost BEFORE I watch a ~20 minute video telling me how great it is.
@ryanhamstra49 3 ай бұрын
That’s why they don’t. Gotta get the views or KZfaq decides to kill the channel. At least they do tell you unlike many reviewers
@reza310 3 ай бұрын
Thank you
@AlliePaints 3 ай бұрын
Get bent? It makes more sense to talk about it and then discuss cost, but if you really want to be like that just click to the time stamp ffs
@Kavyatej 3 ай бұрын
then proceeds to load options on the website
@TominiOfficial 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes I do skip to the end and back just to see if it's worth the time or I will just be able to dream about it. Waste(dTime)Circuit :D
@Gogo8mkd 3 ай бұрын
Those speakers are definitely not the same.
@codec_corner 3 ай бұрын
I think at LMG they use sennheiser mkh50s for the newer sets and 416s for the older setups. The 416s have a pretty cone-shaped pickup so if it's directly pointed at Alex, the mic may not pickup the laptop off to the side accurately
@Gogo8mkd 3 ай бұрын
@@codec_corner Thanks, that might be it.
@CortMarshal 3 ай бұрын
Bait and switch? The pricing is 50-100% more than what he says on HP's site and at the link in the description.
@hnielsen123 3 ай бұрын
The exact one that he configured, except with the gloss instead of matte screen, shows as $979 on HP's site for me.
@scoops2016 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, always appreciate your opinion. Love Solidworks test on random laptops 😮
@Ripcode2233891 3 ай бұрын
This is a good example why a long term use review will bring across the character of the product way more than a single day use review like most products
@Anabolicapple 3 ай бұрын
Went to the HP website. Same URL. Your video shows a 50% discount from the normal starting price of $2,548 for the same specs on screen as in your video. So You see a $1,274 starting price. I'm not sure why you're granted a 50% discount, but that's not on the HP website...
@DDPWNAGE 3 ай бұрын
Could be something to do with the fact that they’re in Canada?
@FarFromtheSuns 3 ай бұрын
@@DDPWNAGE I am also in Canada and not seeing any 50% discount.
@CheapBastard1988 3 ай бұрын
The base model with the basic 1920x1280p screen and basic i5 is the one from the starting price, and it isn't in stock anywhere. It's probably because it's the low margin model that everyone wants, but HP doesn't want you to buy. It was the same with the Ryzen 5 2500U models of the HP Envy X360 (which was cheaper than the i3 model). It was sold out shortly after launch, back in stock on Black Friday, and sold out the day after.
@abakedpotato1486 3 ай бұрын
it is crazy to say that having 4 ports is considered "lots of IO" bruh maybe it's a small step above Macs that's about it
@MindBlowerWTF 3 ай бұрын
when I saw the folding port I though it will be ethernet not folding A type xD
@georgesaade4355 3 ай бұрын
They should get this fine tuned power management to the omen lineup, it barely gets to 3 hours or 4 maximum with all power saving options enabled
@BrewBlackburn 3 ай бұрын
And omens (Atleast the ones I've worked with) have dedicated GPUs which eat up a lot more power even idle.
@K.F-R 3 ай бұрын
HP just confirmed to me directly that they will *not* ship without Windows in Canada. Also, they seem to be having stock issues.
@lucasrem 3 ай бұрын
stock issues in Canada, linus is shopping in the US !
@RomvnlyPlays 3 ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t you want Windows included at start? It’s how the device gets its firmware updates and Windows can indicate if the device is functioning properly when you put something like Linux on it. Sets your expectations
@robjobse5162 3 ай бұрын
So cool to see them offer a device without windows!
@pieterrossouw8596 3 ай бұрын
Why? Not like they're dropping the price much? I'd rather get a license key that I can use in e.g. the Windows VM I need once a month.
@robjobse5162 3 ай бұрын
@@pieterrossouw8596just because you have a singular use case that most people definitely do not doesn't mean it's not cool lol
@davidbetancourt4028 3 ай бұрын
This video was pure gold for me because my daughter's laptop constantly drains completely after being in hibernate for a day or so. We have to shut it completely off, and even then it seems to drain. This doesn't make any sense. I will be using the forum post to see if there's something that can be done.
@tiagobelo4965 3 ай бұрын
Smells like a windows issue, "modern wake-up" or something similar to that, I remember it being a common complaint of the entire ltt team, especially Alex
@lettherebegames8 3 ай бұрын
windows modern stand-by is the issue here, ltt did a whole video on it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ha57fsaVmNncYpc.htmlsi=MuSJkDNqtBtv1_q5
@davidbetancourt4028 3 ай бұрын
@@lettherebegames8 I watched that video when it came out, but I don't recall there being any specific guidance. The laptop I purchased was after that video however.
@davidbetancourt4028 3 ай бұрын
@@tiagobelo4965 Yeah, there's a video from LTT awhile ago _(see the link above)._ He mentions it in this video, which is why I paused and commented.
@lettherebegames8 3 ай бұрын
@@davidbetancourt4028 yeah that's why it's such a big problem, there's pretty much no fix for it because it's a 'feature' of windows
@mitcoes 3 ай бұрын
I would love a section of the video speaking about it with GNU/Linux. Specially battery, video, and gaming, and how much is better or worse with Wayland and Xorg. And if there are issues with any driver (probably not thanks to Sputnik).
@DominikZogg 3 ай бұрын
I really like the normal Elitebooks as a Developer (RAM can be replaced) often cheap to buy, powerful and reliable. Run them with Fedora Linux (private and business)
@arigood8211 3 ай бұрын
loved my hp elitebook 840 g2 back in the day good to see they are still making good laptops
@carl2k6 3 ай бұрын
Well my elitebook G6 gave up before the warranty ended (hinge, touchscreen) plus performance was a joke (the last point is most probably business software). New one is still slow as f*
@SoM3KiK 3 ай бұрын
I went with a elitebook 840 g7 2 years ago for 550€ secondhand + 50€ for extra 16gb ram (total 32) and it's still a very good laptop for developers.
@awdadwadwad1723 3 ай бұрын
That’s a LOT of cons for a “best” laptop lol
@mikkovirtanen9866 2 ай бұрын
Before i used HP Elitebook 8470p in years 2012-2019 and from year 2019 i have been using HP Elitebook 850 G6. I love Elitebooks.
@mingus3515 2 ай бұрын
my version of this, my perfect laptop that feels as though it was designed with me as the target demographic exactly, is the surface laptop go 2 i have. It's great, love the form factor and everything that it is in a way that i feel like i could not get with any other laptop. Great keyboard, 3:2 screen, and costs SIGNIFICANTLY less than something like the laptop in this video
@n1k0n_ 3 ай бұрын
HP fkd up when they discontinued the Dev One
@WeebMeister37 3 ай бұрын
Can’t say I will trust HP
@isaiahmaness9593 3 ай бұрын
This has honestly just become candidate #1 for my next laptop (as soon as I can replace my current gaming laptop with a desktop pc)
@fire2day 9 күн бұрын
Pretty sure the last HP I worked on had something like 12 screws holding the bottom on. This one is more in-line with the Dell XPS, which are super nice to work on.
@kikmi1900 3 ай бұрын
"This is the best laptop" Continues for minutes explaining why its not the best laptop. Gotta love that continuity
@MindBlowerWTF 3 ай бұрын
From his perspective this video is just extension of his G3 preview
@Martin-we1rm 3 ай бұрын
People praise the Lenovo keyboards but I agree with you the keyboard on my Elitebook is the absolute best.
@lucasrem 3 ай бұрын
Elitebook has the best keys, true fact here, the same keys ?
@Exotic-9780 3 ай бұрын
HP Elitebooks and Lenovo's Yoga Pro series have the best keyboards
@dablklika 3 ай бұрын
Hey Alex, thank you. This is the first time( at least for me) that someone in Ltt mentioned round edges on laptop, and charging from both sides, really nice and convenient.... Improvements are always welcomed, but unfortunately oled with crt responsiveness will be out in 20 years, and stell I am waiting a keyboard with minimal travel distance and clickiness like on mobile phone buttons. Maybe someone has an advice? 75%
@safetytfh 3 ай бұрын
this is the kind of business PC the IT director or C-suite get for themselves, the workhorse HP without all the fluff is the Probook and those are solid. they also don't make you destroy the (very squeaky) feet to open but the elitebooks do...
@Weepsy_ 3 ай бұрын
bet hp had Alex in mind when they updated their Dragonfly model so glad that he actually found a laptop that he will switch to
@RATsnak3 3 ай бұрын
This laptop cannot simultaneously exist as an HP product and as the best laptop for you, I refuse to believe it.
@owenbout 3 ай бұрын
Currently if you spec the machine out in the US the OLED screen doesn't cost any extra? Kinda wild...
@kidsonblackops 3 ай бұрын
I want a solid video talking about the pros and cons of windows and macbooks these days.
@maxmouse3 3 ай бұрын
This is a great laptop! :) I wish it had an AMD version
@lucasrem 3 ай бұрын
AMD, you need Nvidia too ? or onboard API ?
@TSiAhmat 3 ай бұрын
The hp 845 series might be of interest to you
@bob1505 3 ай бұрын
I'm very happy for you. I will Never never NEVER buy another HP product.
@flick4556 3 ай бұрын
What happened if u don't mind saying
@GroteGlon 3 ай бұрын
@@flick4556 HP laptops tend to just shit themselves and die. It's quite annoying. they also nearly always have overheating issues, weak hinges, tons of useless updates, poor overall build quality. as a IT technician, HP has some of the worst solder and thermal paste I've ever seen. Just never buy anything HP
@flick4556 3 ай бұрын
@@GroteGlon what brand do u recommend than? I was thinking of buying a omen for school/game
@Valoute_GS 3 ай бұрын
@@flick4556Lenovo for sure
@Yodaslayer3000 3 ай бұрын
@@flick4556Over an HP? I'd recommend an Asus TUF, or just Asus period. I've had my TUF laptop for almost 6 years and it still does everything I want it for. The only thing I've had to replace is the charger port and that's like 10 bucks.
@PeakDecline 3 ай бұрын
Anyone else just not seeing pricing even close to the videos? I go to the HP site and the base customization price was $2500.
@RodimusPrime29 3 ай бұрын
So your telling me to continue to hold on to my Lenovo ThinkPad aluminum chassis X13 gen 2, with AMD Ryzen 7 pro 5850u for my business needs
@SweetSweetCandyBoyz 3 ай бұрын
If this is priced at anything over $1,200, it’s not worth it. Even as a Windows guy, I’d still point someone to the M2 MacBook Air as a superior machine, or really, any reasonably priced comparable AMD equivalent - Low power Intel processors just aren’t efficient/powerful enough to compete.
@shaunmoneil 3 ай бұрын
The sale price he shows doesn't appear to be valid right now, so it's not just over $1200, it's over $2600.
@Qrzychu92 3 ай бұрын
yeah, once you go up to around 2k, just get a Thinkpad P14s, with Ryzen, as much RAM as you want, proper cooling, awesome keyboard, all IO you can imagine
@cogspace 3 ай бұрын
Weirdly I was looking at one of these specifically for the NFC reader… for Dungeons and Dragons. I have little NFC stickers on the bottoms of all of my D&D miniatures which I use for keeping track of them using custom software that I wrote. If that’s not the most specific reason to be excited about a laptop ever, I don’t know what is.
@FarFromtheSuns 3 ай бұрын
The NFC is pretty cool if you use something like a yubikey. Not having to actually plug it in would be nice.
@williamcampbell9859 3 ай бұрын
Weird flex but ok
@ChristopherBurtraw 3 ай бұрын
Would the battery life penalty for OLED apply if you run it in the LCD's native resolution?
@kordama27 3 ай бұрын
Of all the LMG videos, Alex's laptop reviews are the best
@DrPrepZilla 3 ай бұрын
"This is the best Labptawwp" Im dead.
@starkiller18 3 ай бұрын
watching these laptop reviews over the last few years just makes me miss large screen laptops. I'm visually impaired and in most cases even a 15' screen is just to small for me. you used to be able to get 17' or larger laptops but they stopped making them in favor of tiny 13' models. They need to bring back the larger screen laptops.
@ccelik97 3 ай бұрын
There're still 18' laptops out there. But I have a better solution/approach moving forwards: The visor style AR glasses _(really large FoV)._ And just before any naysayers that might attempt to "boo" me: No lol, you're incorrect _now;_ absolutely dope stuff are coming out this year _(or maybe some are already out in certain regions)._
@deyangeorgiev 3 ай бұрын
yep, the biggest Hp laptop (before going into the ZBook mobile workstation world) is the 860 G10. Quite nice device but still only 16"
@thisisbeanton 3 ай бұрын
@@deyangeorgiev what market? The envy 17-cr1087nr is a 17 inch HP laptop
@deyangeorgiev 3 ай бұрын
@@thisisbeanton yes, I meant Enterprise grade. Elitebook and such. I completely forgot about their standard offerings
@ezkymos 3 ай бұрын
16:04 I've never seen the Hub solving any issue nor giving updates at all since W10.
@matthiasschuster9505 3 ай бұрын
Wouldnt the OLED on the G3 also get higher battery life, once you drop down the resolution?
@marcosvictor4935 3 ай бұрын
It's an HP, certainly it's shit
@GroteGlon 3 ай бұрын
I've fixed more HP laptops than any other laptop brand COMBINED by far
@Novskyy621 3 ай бұрын
Yep. Don't buy anything from this cartel
@dustojnikhummer 3 ай бұрын
You can easily say that about Dell, Lenovo etc
@everettjames6707 3 ай бұрын
He said for his specific use case it’s the best.
@Sponsi_PL 3 ай бұрын
It's dy!!!
@web1bastler 3 ай бұрын
"Solid I/O"... one type A, two type C and HDMI... To me, that is pretty disappointing I/O for the pricepoint. Not even a micro SD card slot.
@jefferyG499 3 ай бұрын
List of businesses who would allow their company laptops to have a MicroSD card slot enabled: *This page intentionally left blank.* Google: data exfiltration
@tuannguyenminh2870 3 ай бұрын
I mean laptops nowadays have terrible IO. We are at a point where thin and light laptops typically only have some type C at best.
@tahakhan5492 3 ай бұрын
Should review the zbook firefly g10 14 inch next? I wanna see how it compares to the dragonfly
@joebafra 3 ай бұрын
On the HP website they say it’s 4G/LTE and not 5G with the SIM card option.
@Tiranastraz 3 ай бұрын
1800 USD, WITHOUT a dedicated GPU ? What are people at HP smoking ???
@diddymies 3 ай бұрын
not a gaming laptop. I repeat not gaming.
@iswordlogici7760 3 ай бұрын
Whats up with this channel and promoting literal ewaste lately?
@zacmullins7811 3 ай бұрын
Alex loves the laptop so much he utter the sentence, the processing is not great but it is if you compare it to a 3 year old cpu
@fluffyflextail 3 ай бұрын
Looks and feels a lot like the Elitebook lineup of laptops in the HP products. The difference between the laptops in the business category can feel somewhere between "Non-Existence" and "Far too subtle".
@Rachitdubey 3 ай бұрын
I seriously think we need someone else from LTT to review laptops 😂
@TychoVan 3 ай бұрын
why?
@perseus31 3 ай бұрын
@@TychoVan Watch the video again after hearing that thing is 2k and he says it isn't even fast while browsing but ENOUGH for him. People buy M3 Pro Mb Pros and do their proffesional work bro.. They really should consider someone else or at least tell us video is sponsored or something
@leonro 3 ай бұрын
@@perseus31It's about the good keyboard and battery life, plus satisfactory display and speakers. It's good for very specific users, and not necessarily you, mate.
@TychoVan 3 ай бұрын
oh didnt know abt the price, yeah thats outrageous
@perseus31 3 ай бұрын
@@leonro He said macbook pros keyboard still better if I heard him right. You can still get paper like display with way better specs and speakers. This thing has nothing to offer for its price mate.
@acrain7 3 ай бұрын
I'm gonna be honest this seems like a terrible and overpriced laptop.
@ianmontgomery2862 3 ай бұрын
With all their craziness, they need a website with transcripts or summaries. for each video. Go low effort and use a LLM and summarise the captions and programmatically dump it to a blog page. I often ask myself, man, I wish I could find that monitor Linus used and reviewed on his work desk. But I can never find it.
@mullergyula4174 3 ай бұрын
HP also overcharges for RAM, 16G to 32G upgrade costs $660. LOL. I am sticking to some upgradable laptop with my next purchase.
@Mr.Hatchet_ 3 ай бұрын
Well dont care how good it is.. bought my last hp 5years ago.. Always had issues.. replaced units multiple times.. shittie support.. The notebook for my parents same issue.. No thanks..
@diddymies 3 ай бұрын
meanwhile I have used for last 20 years and never had trouble. You had one bad laptop 5 years ago and you shit whole brand.. Very logical.
@Mr.Hatchet_ 3 ай бұрын
@@diddymies nah man.. i dont care about one bad laptop.. I had 2 needed to replace the second one 2 times after just 1-2 weeks of use. Same issue with another hp laptop from my parents 1 year later. And again with my systers school laptop. needed a repair after 1year cause the screen just stoped working. My sisters are now running lenovos since 3 years and i got mysellf a dell xps at the same time. We might just had bad luck but at this point and the 1000 other options availabell we are just done messing with hp..
@perseus31 3 ай бұрын
So this laptop is worse in every single field compared to my M1 Air for 2000 USD ! Who's even buying this
@tuannguyenminh2870 3 ай бұрын
How much does an M1 Air with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD cost?
@tim3172 3 ай бұрын
How well does an M1 Air run the large variety of Windows-only applications that I need for my job, though?
@BeautifulMadeline 3 ай бұрын
Round corners is life
@VicharB 3 ай бұрын
I went with HP EliteBook 835 G10 7840U/32GB/5G with Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, total costing USD1,600, as a replacement for my older G8 5850U/16GB/1TB 970 Evo Plus. The bump is there definitely, with enough needed ports, just wish it had better battery life. It is best keyboard "A", next to ThinkPads "A+".
@hang10wannabe 2 ай бұрын
While I love using mid range gaming laptops as a work laptop (I'm a teacher so I have a personal work laptop and a work provided laptop), these thin and lights are awesome and I think my sisters next laptop will be one.
@dura2k 3 ай бұрын
Would love to see a comparison to a thinkpad P14/P1. For me that has the much better display, keyboard (sadly it’s not as good as the old thinkpad) and a much better I/O.
@curtisbme 3 ай бұрын
Really don't like how HDMI is being installed instead of displayport (though yes, you can do that via thunderbolt).
@Ali80076 21 күн бұрын
hp still have problems with the Hinges? their hinges seem to want to break without prompt 3-4 years in
@JakubVacek42 3 ай бұрын
Careful what you wish for. Soon you will be paying a subscription for the LCD to emit light with the way hp is going.
@windowsfan95 3 ай бұрын
The placement of the power button though.
@odin13th76 3 ай бұрын
That was a good Vinnie mac WWE poop reference , was probably coincidence though but still good lol
@RegularEverydayNormalGuy 3 ай бұрын
Most people could actually do just like I did and get an old thinkpad, snatched a X390 with 16GB RAM 256GB SSD, i5 8gen, nice 1080p display, loud sound, amazing built quality and keyboard (with backlight), windows hello and fingerprint sensor for 240 euros here in Italy (bought from a refurbisher in eBay). Honestly after buying this I felt stupid ever owning a macbook or anything else for productivity.
@ivangerginov5648 3 ай бұрын
Nice one. 2nd hand is usually fine but personally I'm a bit scared of buying used laptops since there's moving parts. I got one couple years back and the hinges were destroyed on the inside, which I found out later. It's a bit of a risk.
@RegularEverydayNormalGuy 3 ай бұрын
@@ivangerginov5648 You ate right, it is a risk, but then there are certified refurbishers that even have option to get warranty, my X390 came with 12 months but I saw some with option to extend too. Also I bought 3 laptops for family in the 3 years (before the thinkpad haha), 1 Acer Aspire 5 had to be replaced by the manufacturer after 1 month and the other lenovo started giving me so much trouble I just gave up. So I guess warranty is always nice lol.
@danielhalachev4714 3 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I'm planning on doing when I retire my current laptop.
@CaptainFSU 3 ай бұрын
I just got a laptop from Asus that came with encrypted drives (which was never stated) and boy did that laptop get angry when I tried to upgrade the drive... Not a fan of OEMs per-encrypting drives, my last laptop was in 2020, didn't even know they came encrypted out of the box.
@jenniegafoor6643 3 ай бұрын
great laptop for non-gamer person who love work on small devices and solved it projects issue easily 👍👍💕💕
@taiwoadegbayi7115 3 ай бұрын
Been a while since Alex complained about WIndwos Modern Standby
@coldlyanalytical1351 3 ай бұрын
I have a HP Convertible ... much older but very similar thin magnesium construction. Not perfect - but by far the best laptop I've had.
@ItsCryptic 3 ай бұрын
My high school used to buy laptops with FreeDOS then later put windows on them - saves the cost of buying a windows license and you dont need it when youre in a business environment like a school as we already have licenses for the computers
@DavidMuzar 3 ай бұрын
What about OLED version? Is it any better than this standard IPS pannel?
@connardman 3 ай бұрын
Are the hinges still made of cardboard?
@TUBESOCK25 3 ай бұрын
How do u transfer ur files over from ur old laptop to ur new one tho
@grocerylist 3 ай бұрын
Should have paired an AudioQuest Dragonfly DAC in it with a name like that.
@qamstel 3 ай бұрын
The corners are really nice. I use Omen 15 and I almost stab my wrists to death every day 😂
@robertorendorff 3 ай бұрын
HP will soon be planning to sell a subscription to use your keyboard so look forward to that
@fabiokinolli 3 ай бұрын
I feel an xps would still be a better buy? The screen is very meh for the price, especially with latency. The speakers and keyboard are good sure, but so are xps's. Matter of fact it seems like Alex went out of his way to avoid mentioning the xps. The pillow edges are nice but I've rarely had the issue of the edge of a laptop cutting or hurting me. Plus you'd also be able to replace the ssd and ram on your own.
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