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@shayooooo4 ай бұрын
The fact that you have an excel sheet for every breakdown you give out is insane
@Jamesnpk4 ай бұрын
"I've got loads of videos to catch up on when the kids are asleep. Oh wait Saph has uploaded one, looks like the others have to wait!"
@MplsLam4 ай бұрын
I was hoping this secret was going to be kept longer. I have been using this to cut in since it came out. Damn you again Saph! lol
@cjhaedaten87114 ай бұрын
Same! I have my Ankora on it with only a speed of 278, 550 resist and she keeps cutting in to the speed team that are around 350, it's also a big surprise to the enemy on Live arena when she takes a turn to their speedtune and cleanse my team XD
@MplsLam4 ай бұрын
@@cjhaedaten8711 That's exactly what i'm doing too. Ankora in Supersonic is good. I want to get my Armanz in it then swap Ankora to Bolster or something else.
@ChristopherJomenAngkolToper4 ай бұрын
Hahaha...Saph bomber😂
@grizzledsentinel46914 ай бұрын
Great video and I'm glad you are crediting those who did the work. An unfortunate number of CCs don't bother with that. The number of times I've seen ayumilove credited for what Bobo pulled about dungeons (despite ayumilove properly crediting bobo) or a CC pulling a team from the optimizer without even attempting to figure out if a CC did it first (biohack all rare team comes to mind) is pretty distressing to those of us who care about proper accreditation.
@tallica8684 ай бұрын
You are hands down the most important cc for raid. You don't just entertain and give us news, you give us facts that we didn't know ! Slayer set, i really look forward to your break down. I got rathlos in a 9 piece for hydra nm, but asides from the stat bonus i fail to see the extra nuke that i should get from it¨
@stevensulikowski66204 ай бұрын
I have also failed to see the extra nuke from Rathalos and Valkanen from a 9 piece slayer set too.
@DeathsRHM4 ай бұрын
I don't know how good it is with other champs but I managed to get a 9 piece on my siegfrund with about 200% crit dmg and his a3 hits upwards of 1m in live arena if the extra damage procs. The bonus damage also doesn't weak hit so it even nukes force champs on weak hits for upwards of 100k.
@davixoff83374 ай бұрын
nice was waiting for this! especially coming from you! top work with this channel
@simplesnaggz68074 ай бұрын
you weren’t first
@mrgrinch23464 ай бұрын
Nobody cares@@simplesnaggz6807
@bytemevv-46164 ай бұрын
_This is what I found A 4x Piece Meciless Set: 2x Artifacts with 2x Accessories..._ [[ 30% Chance to decrease a random Skill's cooldown when dealing damage ]] Paired with a 4x Piece Reflex Set: [[ 40% chance to reduce random Skill cooldown ]] And if you're lucky to have a Refresh Accessory: [[ Extra 5% chance to prevent Skill cooldown ]] _...I am excited to call this the, "Kymar Effect Gear Set" !!!!!_ [[ THIS COMMENT IS COPIED & PASTED ON MY FINDINGS ]]
@bytemevv-46164 ай бұрын
_Imagine not having a Prince Kymar or a skill reset champion..._ _This is a fun way to build a champion with the 4x Piece Meciless:_ _2x Artifacts with 2x Accessories & 4x Piece Reflex Set,_ _...I tested this on Jetni with her A2 & A3 Gets reset through the waves of Cursed City !_
@freeeggs38114 ай бұрын
Imagine that on a rotos
@bytemevv-46164 ай бұрын
_The wonderful thing is the self Kymar Effect Gear Build..._ _Can be very useful everywhere in the game,_ _...I appreciate your comment, thank you kindly ._
@MrMick303 ай бұрын
That sounds really amazing. Probably a amazing option if you have that for a DPS and can't get a Ignore def set in (I'd prefer ignore def for a DPS champ). However, for like a Support champ, this could be amazing as well! Imagine a tm booster with something like this..!
@bytemevv-46163 ай бұрын
_I can't wait to see this also used on..._ _...On an unkillable team !_
@DeathNight794 ай бұрын
Well I have a great six piece set with crit damage gloves but I didn’t realize it would be good for the archer! Thank you for breaking it down!!!
@stevensulikowski66204 ай бұрын
Thank you Saph - a detailed video of all variable sets & what normal epics & legendaries would benefit the most from them is sorely needed in this game. That video would be more useful to players.
@vx93304 ай бұрын
Yep my Armanz went straight into Supersonic as soon as I got him.
@georgejonesson63384 ай бұрын
Very good showing saph. I had the understanding that this was how it worked from the beginning but put not stock in it being any good. You have proved my brain very wrong
@sasaantonijevic423 ай бұрын
Very very good explained. Thanks you.
@frostbitedf25274 ай бұрын
This confirms what the math told me about supersonic. Thank you!! I will definitely remember this
@Demiuz4 ай бұрын
Great informative content as always. Thanks for all the hard work!
@etherealdragon1234 ай бұрын
One thing I did was build a 5 piece set to get the 10% spd and then chucked on a 6 star speed boots from an off-set to get some extra speed. Something to keep in mind if you're like me and can't get far enough to get accessories yet.
@dweb68324 ай бұрын
This is definitely going to change the way I gear champions. I love the deep dives into spreadsheets!!!
@RavenDeepwood4 ай бұрын
I was wondering when someone would do a video on this set, then though it was trash as it never came. But glad I was wrong, Im 1 piece short for Arbiter, maybe this rototaion or next will change that and then will have to see how my rolls treat me. Great work as useal mate and hats off to the guys that informed you.
@Yobinski49004 ай бұрын
Love the analysis 🎉
@MoneyDad4 ай бұрын
I have a ton of supersonic that I’ve rolled up and been sitting on. Really excited to try it on someone now. Thank you!
@itswoodimf4 ай бұрын
that's actually pretty cool, will definitely see if i can get some builds in that set now that i know how it really works
@Raze19904 ай бұрын
interesting stuff, thnx saph. looking forward to the rest ;)
@Emerys154 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie. When I read the supersonic 9 piece. This is how I thought it worked. I was like man that would be so good to put on my arbiter. Haven’t thought about it since because not even close to having a 9 piece on my account 🤷♂️
@Dicezlol4 ай бұрын
I realised it was the best speed set as soon as it was shown before it was released =P
@cjhaedaten87114 ай бұрын
Super sonic and Protection is my new speed set, also Merciless is my goto Reflex set now, it's crazy good how east it is to get good gear of them
@zaubermaus81904 ай бұрын
oh great, now everyone will know, i have my armanz and arbiter in supersonic since the dawn of time and everyone slept on it. and i liked it that way, thx. -.- one thing though about your armanz-siphi cut-in example though: smart people will just sleep armanz with their first turn instead of buffing up and normally their warlord (if there is one) will still be the next one to go
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
Ofcourse but certainly not in non-live arena settings :)
@JasisForever4 ай бұрын
Im using on Yumeko to surprise reset speed tunes. Can you do showcase on Zeal set too? I think optimiser doesn't calculate it@@HHGamingNetwork
@jackpopulorum85494 ай бұрын
Hey Saph, I have to wonder if the 6 pc set is actually working opposite of the 9 pc. What I mean is, maybe if one person on your team has a 6 pc supersonic, that an enemy who tries to decrease TM on your team is decreased by 30% across the board, all allies. It makes sense even by how the description reads. Decrease Turn Meter effects (placed by enemies of this Champion) are 30% less effective. To me, that sounds like 30% less effective in general, not just against the one wearing it.
@Canadarox694 ай бұрын
I utterly respect and appreciate the work you put into digging this far into the content but, for me, it pushes me even farther away from keeping this game on my phone or on my computer. I just don't have the time, nor the inclination, to go this deep into the theory to make my champions viable in the game. I understand I can use what you have worked to make better decisions concerning my champions ... but it's a time thing more than anything else.
@raphealbynum23704 ай бұрын
Where would we be without Saph. Another gem!!
@imo...4 ай бұрын
i personally use the supersonic as a 3 pieces set. To be more precise i only use accesories as a complement to my best speed set that gives me a total of 46% more speed
@Lawliet7344 ай бұрын
Spreadsheets are the trademark of this channel.
@Mets16614 ай бұрын
Thanks Saf, now i know how to use supersonic! :)
@wileyman49064 ай бұрын
As long as you have some accessories, you can use these sets as a three piece set while still equipping full artifact sets up top. That allows you to get to the ever-important speed with the third piece.....
@nicodemus8024 ай бұрын
it is much more easier to use the protect set for that purpose, and it is even stronger (+12% rather than +10%)
@broute4 ай бұрын
I have my Krixia in a 9 piece set and she is fantastic! Saved my bacon soo many times in live arena! 350 speed 500 ACC and 400 Res.
@elitewayez10264 ай бұрын
Saph...YOU ARE THE MAN!
@BlindTemptation4 ай бұрын
My Armanz is in supersonic since I have him and I like it like this :p
@pasto_sk4 ай бұрын
I understood the 9 pc bonus correctly from the start from the description it has now. Might be due to me not being a native speaker, but it did not change anything since getting 7 good enough speed pieces will not happen for at least a year :)
@mbbustorff97994 ай бұрын
Hey, thank you for the video! Are there accessories for grabs in normal mode outside of Amius?
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
Apparently not! I was mistaken!
@danielhanuscak24734 ай бұрын
I am curious if the 4 pc triggers from buffs at the start of battle(bolster, stoneskin etc.) If so that is much more beneficial.
@shaneebersole83664 ай бұрын
I was hoping Saph would have answered this question as well, it's the first thing I thought when reading the description
@jerryfox1434 ай бұрын
should be easy to test yourself
@WutTheDeuceGaming4 ай бұрын
I think everyone knows that the set is good, it's the fact this set isn't easy accessible by most people. The amount of variables is HIGH in order to actually be able to use it in this way. Most people cannot farm this stuff based on how cursed city works based on that content's variability. Variables on top of variables are the reason most people are ignoring this
@pestyoverlord4 ай бұрын
I didn't realize it was confusing for people. It increases her fill, her fill says all alllies. Idk how you can read it any other way.
@foamslinger27874 ай бұрын
because it says "on" this champion, not "from" this champion
@jasonsaulters60274 ай бұрын
It says increases turn meter effects on this champion so of course people assumed turn meter effects applied by other characters.
@nicojoubert93384 ай бұрын
Well thats interesting for shemal he will fill the turn meter so fast in hydra
@jerryfox1434 ай бұрын
it should work for him you'll go from 15 percent to 19.5
@joep99124 ай бұрын
Hey Saph, great video, but how would this compare to a 3-piece speed set & a 3-piece protection set?
@joep99124 ай бұрын
Just read your response to somebody below, but would still be interested in the comparison to see if the 9 piece would win against the 2 3-piece sets.
@jerryfox1434 ай бұрын
the wording is weird but it works like how i thought it did
@YR6206.4 ай бұрын
you do great qulity of content but it would be helpfull if you can up the sound of yours video...Even if i volume up to 100% its kinda hard to head without a headphone or speaker.. Thanks for your hard work
@BrunoSilva-fy4np4 ай бұрын
Thx 4 the advice
@whwiii4 ай бұрын
Wow this is huge I was pushing towards nine piece supersonic on armanz. Total waste will trim him down to six and he's better sets
@miggo82034 ай бұрын
can you make a video on how to make a speed tune chart like that? ive been wanting to learn, im really good at excel, so ill understand all the formulas i just dont knw how exactly its all put together. I see you have multiple sheets open for each area, thats exactly what im trying to do but i need to learn how to do it. Please make a video or direct me to a video where i can learn please. Id really appreciate it.
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
I need to do a revamped Speed Tuning Series so will do!
@joep99124 ай бұрын
@@HHGamingNetwork I am interested in your excel work as well. Some of the best I have seen from any type of videos.
@miggo82033 ай бұрын
@@HHGamingNetwork Hell yea, thanks. hope it comes out soon but take your time.
@Jam-Ryu88Ай бұрын
thanks for the explaination, how do we get a copy of that sheet :P
@michaelrowland83704 ай бұрын
Just put raglin in it probaly best in it because of a1 got 9 piece plus I have banner lord plus Tara and march. I needed this video.
@dylanendlich30134 ай бұрын
Superb video
@FourO__4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the so Saph!
@alanclarke81174 ай бұрын
Interesting video. Don't see me getting a 9-piece set this year. The rolls are always garbage.
@nathanberthiaume13174 ай бұрын
How would this set work on, let’s say a high acc savage Valkyrie, who’s passive increases decreases turn meter on buffs. Would she be getting double the value to cut on in ahead of a speed team and then proceed nuke them into oblivion?
@a.k55254 ай бұрын
really nıce wid pls do this kind of things about cleaning and sets
@RM-wo3rd4 ай бұрын
I’ve got my Armanz in a 5 piece and whenever he isn’t banned he can usually cut in on most speed teams but a super fast yumeko or warlord running faster than the rest of The opposing team supports can still counter him if they’re fast enough
@crumbum104 ай бұрын
Wait. Im i hearing this right? what hes saying is that the other champs wont get the extra turn meter fill if they are not in supersonic gear? Is that correct? Just curious
@frickxnas4 ай бұрын
I still prefer protection on most supports. So many enemies remove buffs nowadays. U also get hp and resistance.
@Qrul3 ай бұрын
Saph is down right awesome.
@tommyboy74274 ай бұрын
I feel like 4 piece is good for cutting in (krixia, Armanz) and 9 piece is best on champs that are maybe your second fastest (maybe arbiter). With siphi or a champ you definitely want to go first, it would be much better to go with 6 pc speed 3 pc supersonic or 3pc protection because she really wants to go first.
@Wolcik30004 ай бұрын
I don't have any accessories yet - Bosses give out only gear for me
@lonewolf55334 ай бұрын
Saph doesn't mess around
@DarthMalgus6664 ай бұрын
Saph what would this do to a CB team's speed tunes? eg. Alva(L), Demytha, Ruella, Seeker and Draco? Where Demytha has to go at between 315-332 and Ruella has to go between 314-331?
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
Oh that thought horrifies me!
@Enbyrangerdanger4 ай бұрын
I have been keeping multi rolled speed pieces for supersonic because i hace a feeling once i get enough pieces its gonna pop off
@marc230094 ай бұрын
First we gotta get some good speed rolls on supersonic haha but its pretty cool
@durmism4 ай бұрын
Does the set also increase speed boosts affects not cast? Or is the 9 piece set useless for champions that don't fill turn meter?
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
It only affects cast by this hero.
@denta1flam3s24 ай бұрын
Can you please publicly share the turn meter sheet. That will help me a lot tuning my Faye team
@finiteresident22943 ай бұрын
Kind of figured as much but because of the games crappy randomness I rarely get any pieces with speed substats. I sell 99% of the pieces lol.
@MRDAthe5TH4 ай бұрын
That set would be good on someone like Wukong or Madame. Let them buff, then get interrupted & strip them of their buffs.
@Yo_zae4 ай бұрын
I wonder if it’ll increase the amount of heals that dreamsong can do 🤔
@cable64164 ай бұрын
Untested but I think the 6 piece set works best against celestial griffin which mirrors turn meter decreases
@BryonLape4 ай бұрын
By the time I can farm these, there will be something better.
@jwiz19114 ай бұрын
No, because my luck is absolute garage on what I get in these sets. I have factions without a single accessory, and I have two factions with six accessories....alllll rings.
@Ghostbunny834 ай бұрын
So supersonic would be the ideal set for Eostrid to increase the healing she does from her passive too?
@Ragnell1234 ай бұрын
I took my Arbiter from 363 to 340 speed in 9 piece supersonic. I feel like she will be effectively faster more often than not. 363 isn't nearly enough to compete in the current meta anyway
@surviral93724 ай бұрын
How would this work with Valk passive? 10% per buff etc
@TheDARKAG3NTyt4 ай бұрын
Bro I been sayin this since this gear set came out . I had my shu zhen in it . She would cut in then pass to dmg
@francismetherell49194 ай бұрын
Could work well for Eostrid...
@supermancc0344 ай бұрын
Is there a copy of that FK Tick Rate spreadsheet anywhere?
@josephsavicki9594 ай бұрын
Most of my supersonic has all rolled double or triple speed
@allabouttheguitar15554 ай бұрын
Not sure if i missed it, but do masteries effects count?
@konjah80884 ай бұрын
Already knew this
@samuelpilon8104 ай бұрын
what about changing your blessing on armanz to get that exra speed like temporal chain or intimidating presence at 5 star might out benefit sheep blessing
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
Aura is quite underwhelming imo and chains is good but polymorph is too powerful when you have accuracy
@Acclaim1H2 ай бұрын
@@HHGamingNetwork Wouldn't Temporal Chains be synergistic with Supersonic 4pc to widen the speed gap and significantly increase the chances of cutting in? I feel like this would be more impactful than Polymorph (which is saying something!)
@katwoine4 ай бұрын
My DT hard team has 3 slayer geared AOE group that kicks
@bawbq53054 ай бұрын
Sure Armanz is a little OP and all but my biggest issue with him is he makes it hard to auto your battles sometimes 😒
@Neuvillete4.64 ай бұрын
Can we see a match mixing merciless with reflex
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
Check out my last Trunda Team Video - it showcases that setup.
@jaybank13154 ай бұрын
Is there anyway of sorting accessories by supersonic?
@fidelsyrianoudis4 ай бұрын
I use a 3 piece set on my Cardiel looking to get it up to 4 piece I just need a amulet or banner
@edwardmcgarthwaite77714 ай бұрын
Umm, yeah... Impulse is pretty good too, now.
@jasonsaulters60274 ай бұрын
Thanks. This game is becoming too complicated for my liking. I was trying to counter Armandz with Tormin in the beginning and realized that stealing the turn meter was not freezing him so it was not effective and then when I was confused why my Armanz got frozen but it's because he has turn meter increase on his other abilities and I didn't even realize that about him.
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
Hes nasty with the volume of secret turn meter gains
@MealzOnWheels4 ай бұрын
Won't siphi just put u to sleep and make this whole thing not matter for the 4 pc set when it comes to cutting in after a potential siphi boost?
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
In live and smart people but much of the game is not Live Arena! Siphi is just a good template
@seanjones96643 ай бұрын
Wait... there's people with 420 speed?!
@xytu79684 ай бұрын
how does this work with fyna
@tydong834 ай бұрын
15:22, you are comparing a 9 piece supersonic vs 6 piece speed thats a unfair comparison. it really should be 9 piece supersonic vs 6 piece speed + 3 piece protection. more like 32% vs 48%. 16% speed on arb equates to 17.6 speed.... you cant win with that much lower in an arena speed race setup. But... pve wise yah you are right
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
Yeah the topic was more aligned towards the traditional approach of "speed sets for arbiter" but you're right you can get alot more now with the protection. I think generally people prefer the alignment to the bonus from these sets rather than just pure speed tho.
@mikedavis91444 ай бұрын
Where are these spreadsheets????
@romellejacinto2514 ай бұрын
You are very much
@TimDickson14 ай бұрын
thanks for telling everyone lol
@matanel184 ай бұрын
I knew it long ago :)
@foamslinger27874 ай бұрын
Neat!
@Conso554 ай бұрын
Of course description and coding don't align and Saph spotted it ahah
@HHGamingNetwork4 ай бұрын
Actually for this time - it was another creator I missed this one!