One correction I think is that it says in game that Sada and Turo died from the aggressive Miraidon or Koraidon in effort to protect the passive one, not a mysterious unknown Pokémon or the third legendary

This timeline is no doubt only going to become more confusing once DLC arrives. Looking forward to all the theories to come from it

This is my final video for the year, thanks to everyone who has watched this year. I'm actually really excited to come back swinging in January with a new feel and some of my best videos yet. Happy holidays everyone. Have an amazing time and thank you for all your comments

Sada/Turo didn't leave to raise young Arven. They just straight up abandoned their family. The remaining parent basically let Arven raise himself while they did their research.

There's a few corrections i have to make: 1st Sada and Turo never raised Arven together, one of them abandons soon after Arven is born, making Arven only know the same parent we met in the game, there's a book in one of the outposts that says that. Arven left his Parent to go to school alone just a couple of years ago. 2nd Arven didn't know about the AI Professor nor the Second Koraidon or Miraidon, those events started after Arven had left his Parent to go to school, so it's a much more recent event, maybe 2 or 3 years ago in the game. 3rd the death of the Professor doesn't seem to be related to the "3rd Legendary", that pokemon seems to be too big to fit in the destroyed outpost. however, their death was probably the most recent event, most likely at the start of the game, it was most likely the Second Koraidon/Miraidon that killed them when they were trying to protect the first one from their territorial dispute, making the first Koraidon/Miraidon run away as we see at the start of the game. 4th in relation of the fusion Pokemon of the Beast Trio, it is most possible that it existed hundreds of years ago, the events of the Brass Tower wasn't their creation, Ho-oh didn't create them, it just resurrected them, 3 mysterious Pokemon died in the Brass Tower, for all we know, they were Suicune, Entei and Raikou, people just assume that they were turned into the Beasts cuz of the mentioned the 3 mysterious Pokemon but for all we know there was no transformation, the mysterious Pokemon were just Suicune Entei and Raikou otherwise people would have recognise them, but since the Trio is a rare sight, people wouldn't know them. but back to their creation, numerous Entei Pokedex Entries says that it is born whenever a Volcano erupts, no Ho-oh needed, Groudon maybe. Also, it was just one Tower that burned down, Lugia's Brass Tower, the Bell Tower that belongs to Ho-oh remained intact. Bonus Fact: in one of the Outposts, there's a book like the one that says one of the Parents abandoned the other as soon as Arven was born as well as others that tell about the Professor's life in the Area Zero, however, this one is very strange, it says that the Professor wishes to go to the Past/Future to create a perfect paradise for the three of them to live, we know that one of them is the Professor but not the other two, are they the 2 Miraidons/Koraidons? are they the AI and the Koraidon/Miraidon? are they Arven and Koraidon/Miraidon? i would like to think that it is Arven and his Parents together as a Family.

As Misty would say about the Pokédex, "So you're just making stuff up?" 😂😂😂

Dialga fuming in Dawn's PC, sensing the Paldean Professor f"cking with time

I was under the impression that we're supposed to infer that the second Koraidon/Miraidon is the one that killed the Professor, since the AI says that our Koraidon/Miraidon lost to the other in a territory dispute, which would suggest that they had been at odds for some time.

8:59 “Pokemon don’t usually attack people” Have you read a Pokédex?!

I hope we get more lore heavy Pokémon story’s in the future. Strong lore will strengthen this franchise

I don't think it's a coincidence that Heath has a Cyclizar. The Legendaries are Paradox Forms of Cyclizar, after all, so it makes me think if one of the two Cyclizar's used to be Heath's. If this is the case, I'd say that the most likely candidate is the Koraidon/Miraidon that we find, mainly due to how it mostly stays in its ride form.

BKT: The Dragon Clan doesn't appear in SV. Me: Did you not go to Art Class?

i think the art teacher is part of the draconids, because obvs he uses dragon types, but he also has a very weird family history if you interact with him outside of class.

my small theory is that heath went into the crater with 6 pokemon and his cyclizar and because he had that weird dream with the writing, his pokemon became the paradox pokemon. that is why there are only 6 of them for each version.

people have already talked in the comments about the fact that The other professer did not raise Arven at all, but instead just left entirely, but I would also like to point out that during the elevator scene, the AI Professer states that the only reason they exist at all is because of the tera crystals, and that they cannot leave the crater. So no, the de-aged characters are not AI. They're probably not even canon.

We are told what happened in Research Station 4. AI Sada/Turo tells you that the more feral Miraidon/Koraidon attacked the one you've been travelling with, and the biological Sada/Turo stepped in front of the attack to prevent the two from hurting each other, causing your companion pokemon to flee Area Zero.

I'm surprised you didn't mention the Dragon Lineage of the elite four member. Its possible that his family is the dragon faction we usually encounter

this is a fantastic theory i would love to see Turo in Scarlet and Sada in Violet reunite with Arven in the DLC that would be incredible, and all because of their respective spouse's sacrifice in the main game at area zero - it's like an infinity war/endgame story arc.

When you mentioned the idea that the people in the world tournament could be ai because they have the technology can't be true. The only reason why the ai exists is because of the tera crystals in area zero. The ai sada or turo explain that the only work because of that and they can't leave area zero for the same purpose.

I'm really not sure how either professors would be able to go through the time machine when the game explained that humans can't go through it, that's why they send masterballs to catch them

This is amazing Bird Keeper Toby! For the 30th anniversary in 2026 I would like to see the Pokémon Company and Nintendo to release a Pokémon Historia book that is similar to the Hyrule Historia book that covers the complete timeline of the Pokémon games and how many years the events of the Pokémon games take place between each other all the way to Gen 10.

nice theory but there is one point. I play violet in german and these notes in area zero say, that arvens mother left as soon, as the baby was born. So in violet he never met his mother. I mean in violet we also never hear anything about his mother.

13:47 Remember that Sada says that no AI can be as advanced as her due to the computer being crystalized.

I love lore and theory videos, phenomenal job both of you can’t wait to see more next year!

I laughed waaaaayyyy too hard Mabosstiff giving the Covenant back their bomb 😂

The dragon clan are barly talked about but they are there. Hurst is the leader of them. When you become close to home it's something you talk about. He's unsure weather to keep teaching art or going back to the clan to lead them

Do a theory on the 3 giant footprints of the region, maybe more but I noticed 3. They're from like a tri-pronged foot, Glaseado's grasp, Gracia stones and in the mining area near the worm titan. My theory is that they're from the disk pokemon.

12:12 Wait a minute... Given that you just said that Arven was born 16 years ago BEFORE Scarlet and Violet (which you may recall was that 16 years ago was the time of Black and White), and that you said that Scarlet and Violet take place canonically in the year of 2022 in the Pokemon world, would that mean he was born around 2006?

I always love these types of videos about the lore and history of the Pokemon world

What if the reason paradox pokemon were around 200 years ago is because the Time Machine scattered them across Paldea’s timeline. Also glad someone else thought the same thing about bootstrap paradoxes

my theory for how sada/turo got so many masterballs is that they were given one for whatever reason but because they are obviously REALLY smart and REALLY good at technology they simply reverse engineered that one masterball so they could figure out how they're made and just make as many of them as they want.

Nice one thanks Tobes, have a great Christmas mate!

love the timeline videos! keep killing it!

Great vid! U got a new subscription

To the 65-87 year gap, maybe the research done at these places inspired all of these characters(Oak & Kurk to research both pokémon & the unknown, and the other three to look for strong new pokémon never seen before). It’s a far-fetched theory, but at least its something.

Finally finished the game and was able to catch up on these videos just in time for you to be finishing up your hiatus. Perfect timing. Very curious to see how any possible DLC affects this timeline. Time travel always makes things wacky.

The characters in the Black and White tournament can’t be AI because the only reason why AI is possible was because of the Tera crystals. AI Turo/Sada was stuck in the Crater because it powered them.

There is so much knowledge and information to handle in this video! Great work!

What if the room the machine is in is connected to the legendary? The pokemon they saw before were imagined. The time machine wouldn't really be a time machine but a way to bring the imagined pokemon to the physical world. After you place the book in the machine the pokemon get pulled out.

Gen 5 is getting remade soon and is probably the next project calling it now with all the little nods to gen 5.

This is probably the most interesting lore from Pokémon I’ve seen in a long time. Here’s hoping it gets expanded upon

Miss Reinhart history teacher is also my favorite, but I'm 99% sure she is the bad guy , Geeta is meant to throw everyone off with her mysterious nature, while Reithart is the true Villain.

And now with the DLC being announced, Terapagos was revealed as the third Legendary

The journal entry says that the other parent had left Arven, meaning the other parent in each game abandoned the family, leaving only Arven and the professor of that game. So the professor of that game worked hard to finish their studies to get back to Arven and led to the creation of the A.I. professor, but soon after, the incident in lab 4 happens and they die, so it's probably been a while that they had died and the A.I. professor just kept doing their work, not worrying as much about Arven.

Just played the DLC, the entire story of Scarlet and Violet is a paradox in and of itself. Sada and Turo, meet with the player and recieve a book from them, then they go back to their original timeline at the beginning of the game, working on the machine, the player even inspires the professor to build an AI

These videos are awesome I love the Pokemon lore and to learn more about it it's so awesome your videos are awesome and very interesting keep doing awesome work bird keeper Toby and maybe one day you can be the best Pokemon professor and with that have a wonderful day

Good to see your description of third mon be spot on now

Love this vid

i just finished the final exams in SV. miss Raifort said the beads of ruin on chi-yu were worn in pairs like bracelets and earrings. they're the same shapes that Drasna has. chi-yu's also right next to kalos in the top right. there's definitely a connection there.

maybe the pokeball pattern is some of camouflage meant to confuse predators kind of like zebras this may be why see it throughout pokemon history . also what if the crater is actual a micro biome and this environment allowed specific evolution, the professors then build the time machine in present day and create a paradox hence why paradox pokemon exist in the past and future. another thing is possible that the energy found in the crater is somehow related to infinity energy

There's a lot of neat details and theory here and I thank you both for sharing. However, I would like to point out that the Prof AI does mention that current human technology is not advanced enough to create an AI like itself and that the prof was only able to achieve that thanks to the unique crystals themselves. So I doubt that the PWT Trainers were AI. 😅

I thought it was weird that other video referenced this but i didn't remember watching it, glad to watch it now xD

LOVE the mention of the bootstrap paradox (Capaldi better be in the next video) 😂

The Draconids are not the same as every Dragon-associated clan ever. I remember your video about that, and I disagree with your reasoning (which is very thin and assumes a lot). I think Jacq might have worked on the Tera Orb project too? Since he and Clavell used to work together. My favorite Pokémon, Master Chief! The AI Professor’s technology can’t exist outside of the Zero Lab due to the crystals there. However, a lesser version of that AI (which can only battle, not think freely) might be possible elsewhere? I thought the Professor was killed by the second Koraidon/Miraidon???

Idk if this is covered in the video yet since im only 11 minutes in. But the fact that Hassel is basically Ryuki from Sun and Moon also means these games takes place anywhere from 20-40 years later

I can’t wait to officially see the third legendary and to see how it’s presence affects the story of the dlc. Also the potential of the imagined legendaries but who knows how they would exist.

I just had to chuckle during the burned tower part, given recent event raids

I have been wondering what happened to the other professor ever since reaching the end game. 'They walked out' is not really saying much, as Arvin seems to have been pretty much abandoned and having to fend for himself. The AI mentions that the issue with time travelling is that humans 'can't go back to this time', which made me wonder where it got that knowledge from... Did the other professor already get stuck in either the past or future (depending on the game you are playing)? And there is something with Geeta... she looks different and acts like she doesn't know how to behave. Bit of a 'hello fellow human' vibe here. So I wonder if she is somehow from the future or past, bit like how the player time travelled in PL:A. PL:A already set the stage for things being very interesting time-wise, with all the time distortions and people being there from either past (Volo) or future (Ingo). I hope we will get to know more about the lore in the future.

Great and Sweet

In Scarlet and Violet AI Turo/AI Sada tell you that creating an ai is only possible with tera energy in area zero. That is why they can't leave.

Imagine if Heath made an appearance in a Legends Arceus DLC where he came to Jubilife Village to get supplies from Prof. Laventon before exploring Area Zero

7:48 I’ve only gotten this far as of now, but I realized something. If Tera crystals made time traveling possible, then it is possible that the crystals themselves radiate energy that disturbs space-time even without human intervention. If that’s the case, then the temporal anomalies could have been happening since the appearance of the third legendary (assuming that the third one created the crystals) which makes sense that paradox pokémon could have simply appeared thanks to these anomalies when the crater formed.

I‘m going to think that Area Zero came from the ultimate weapon just because of the repurcussions of it being true.

I have an idea on how the great crater was made. When Az fires the ultimate weapon 3000 years ago in the mega timeline it is successful and creates mega evolution. However in the non-mega timeline the beam is sent back in time landing in the Paldea region creating the crater.

one theory that I had about the supposed 'fused' mix variant or Raikou, Suicune, and Entei is that perhaps this could've been the form the trio 'previously' had before the tower had burned and crushed them in process. Since they weren't specified what type of pokemon they were before hand, maybe this could be the case.

I mean it could yes. I'm assuming the Regies at least existed back then and maybe mew

Relating to the past beast fusion thing, what if there were three of the fusions that died, and ho oh could only bring back a certain aspect of each

Remember the Applin mission in SwSh? The girl moved, went through an emotional rebellion phase that ultimately led to hacking skills. Give her like seven or eight years and she’s gonna be Penelope from Criminal Minds lol

0:25 Ehm, we didn't have land animals 300 million years ago, but the cambrian explosion happened over 500 million years ago which is also the period where fish started to appear.

I feel like there is a reference to the Dracanids possibly with Hassel after you finish his classes. He's "a descendant of a long line of dragon-type trainers." Not sure if that just means the type trainer or possibly deeper like being a Draconid.

One *major* detail that theorists are glossing over is the metal plate at 7:56 . You can actually view it for yourself in Area Zero in front of Research Station 4, and next to the aforementioned symbol is a rough outline of the *entire map of Paldea*, on top of that, if you look close enough, *every major settlement including Poko Path is marked with a dot on the map*. In the middle you'll see an outline of the crater with a plus symbol inside of it. I feel like this is a very important detail that presents even more mysteries but so many people aren't even mentioning it!

The tera crystals sounded like they had the powers of: evolution as in historical trait upgrades/downgrades. It affected the building, the ai, the time machine. Would be logical to thing heath being exposed was able to do things he normally wouldn’t. It also sounds like a very potent thing affecting time or connecting all timelines in a spot. The picture of the scaled pokemon reminds me of an oroborous too which means linking by it biting its own tail, making a circle/cycle/connection.

My question is if the 3rd legendary messes with time does it make it a enemy of dialga? Because dialga is the pokemon of time and from what I presume its like the god of time. Second arceus has been getting a lot of build up in the recent years so does this 3 legendary had something to do with the events of hisui? I wondered how did the trainer in pokemon arceus get summoned by the antagonist (forgot his name) like how did a mere human especially of that time period was able to accomplish that feat?

My theory is that the paradox pokemon were brought from a different time but some were accidentally put into wrong times and those are the pokemon that the professors brought to the present making the pokemon literally paradox pokemon

That makes my heart feel…I don’t know it’s just overwhelming. I feel bad for Turo, Sada and Avren more because what you’re saying is true, then that doesn’t make sense now but it’s still confusing I’m still little bit. 16:02 but I love the history of how you I hope you guys do more and hopefully the DLC will let us go to see where the professors went to maybe…❤

That 65-87 years if you consider the movies CANON, is the time when Samuel OAK was sent to the future by Celebi

It's funny you told us to go to this video before it existed it was like a time paradox

Cool!

So talking about the world tour you mention that they had advanced AI technology. But that's not true generally. In the game they say that it's the Crystal energy that let someone as advanced as them be made and that energy is required for them to function.

Time travel does exist before scarlet and violet with the time capsule in gsc allowing pokemon to be transported three years into the past to rby

I think yall just missed a huge "paradox" / intentional plothole in the games story: It is said that Heath and his crew were the first ones to explore the crater entirely and find the paradox pokemon. But later on people went down to the crater and there is not a singe mention of the mysterious paradox pokemon seen. Heath was also called a liar by people back in the day. It is also then mentioned that sada/turo were the first ones to bring the paradox pokemon into reality with the assistance of the time machine. So why would they need to make a whole time machine if the pokemon already existed down in the crater... It's because they never existed. Tyranitartube has a great video on it. I'd suggest it The whole thing links with the 3rd legendary (disk pokemon). In short: the game hints a lot at the fact that the paradox pokemon aren't real. They are just made real by the 3rd legendary. It makes your greatest treasures become a reality. (Whole theme of the game)

I think you missed the lab book that clearly states Arven’s other parent abandoned them as soon as he was born. He pretty much raised himself (maybe at the school?) and only had his partner for company

Yeah, the timeframe given from the Pokédex for the Paradox Pokémon are taken from a freaking paranormal magazine. So it's much better to not take it literally at all. They most definitely are from a distant past or future but it's more like a few millions years max.

Arven and Master Chief are my favorite trainer/pokemon duo.

I wonder if paradox pokemon are called "paradox pokemon" because a paradox justifies their existence

Happy Holidays everyone.

What about the patterns dug into the ground in the Roaring Moon/Iron Valiant cave? I can't seem to figure out if they mean anything or resemble anything.

Crater - roughly hexagonal. Crystals - hexagonal. The crater was definitely created by the 3rd legendary.

Know what I think? The 2 timelines are converging into one.

I would like to mention that az’s machine from x and y did cause a large crater not seen in kalos

My take is that Arven's other parent left because Sada/Turo is slowly going insane with their obsession of Area Zero... So the other decided to leave to prevent them from going insane as well... I think that we will see that other parent in the dlc after hearing about Sada/Turo... And will try to help us uncover more of Area Zero and the 3rd legendary... And probably reconcile with Arven...

I hope DLC allows us to go to the past/future Paldea in order to rescue the other professor, whom is stuck there. Perhaps they've discovered a way to get back, but require your help, as well as help from Arven. Get the gang back together and explore the region in its past/future... I shiver in anticipation for all the possibilities! Merry Christmas, Wonderful Holidays, and a Happy New Year!

I believe that past paradox Pokémon are similar to fossils Pokémon and maybe paldea fossils Pokémon and maybe past paradox Pokémon would live in the same time as fossils Pokémon

Wondering if that dome shaped pokemon with the crown and hexagons is only showing the terrastilised part of a very special Celebi

15:00 no sada and Turo used the dupe glitch😂

I find it funny that eevee is called the evolution pokemon, but it has remained the exact same through every single region and all of time

Why are you in my search history yet I didn't click your videos? Wild.

My favorite part of the game is watching Arven interact with Master Chief 🤣

So far, we have celebi, dialga, and Arceus (by extension) that can time travel. Will we get a third?

Going through old Birdkeeper Toby vids and realized something. He kind of looks like Gaetano Matarazzo's older brother