Sprinklers in top of case 😂

Except you don't use water with electrical fires, and I doubt glycol is a fire suppressant.

@@Nareimooncatt the main goal is to choke a fire. If glycol smothers it, it'll put it out. Start a small fire and squeeze pg vape juice on it.

I'd rather lmao at a brilliant joke than try picking it apart as a serious comment. 🤣 🍻

Fuckin gold

only if you have an appropriate place for the radiator, which a lot of cases do not have.

@@stuartfury3390 personally if you have a case that doesn’t take front and top fans you should be more worried about a new case than a expensive GPU

@@yoshz5389 What? If you put this thing in a decent case you're taking away intake/exhaust for the system. What if you already have an AIO for the CPU? Now you're adding a gpu AIO, there's going to be no airlflow anywhere and what airflow there is is going to be hot. Not to mention putting a 240 AIO where you had a 360 setup prior- further loss of efficiency.

and most vertical mounts, since some cases like the DG 77 only admits 2 slots thick cards for vetical mounting.

@@stuartfury3390 Even my SFF cases have room for 240mm man. It’s harder to find a case that won’t fit them these days.

If you have 1600$ for GPU then extra 150$ is a nice price for lower noise, also i subjectively think that water cooler one will live longer and healthier than others 4090 variants.

@@dachyvashakmadze1871 eh, since all of these coolers are designed for the maximum power target and you should always cap that power target at like 80%, pretty much all cards should be quiet enough

Yes. Sound like a reasonable price to me. Fun fact: in Germany its about 3000€.

@@OnkelHucke yeah our GPU market is an absolute scam at the moment

@@OnkelHucke ai ai..i thought it was bad here in Norway but it is 2600EUR including 25% tax.

I'm not going to buy a 4090 because it's just too powerful for my needs (1440p on older games) but if I were it'd be this one. The massive size of the other cards are beyond stupidity and might not even fit in my big ass case without using a riser cable. Manufacturers should really look into this kind of stuff more, makes it a much better option.

any GPU taking more than 2 slots should be forbidden by law

@@SickPrid3 Your comment doesn't even make sense in a comedic context

Alot of water cool graphics cards are coming to the market soon, they already have them for the 3080 all the way to 3090ti

I'm not going to buy a 4090 cuz I'm not an idiot. I'd rather wait this entire gen out, and the buy AMD 8000 series.

Imagine pairing one with one of those asrock aqua boards or any other silver or grey metal covered board. With some original silver non rgb dominator platinum! It would be gorgeous.

the tube and power cable kill the perfect aesthetic 😔, messy af

The Suprim aesthetic is really nice. Clean and crisp. Pleasing to look at.

im waiting to see what AMD bring but at the moment this card is the top of my list small good cooling and a awesome looking card !!

The ROG strix model is the quietest and coolest running.

is there gpu coil whine? i play at 1440p 240hz or 4k with DLDSR Upscaling

It’s truly a beautiful card. Im so glad I waited instead of making a poor 3090 impulse buy

looking at this card now, 1 year out how do you feel about it?

@@applecrow8 - zero complaints. it's been cranking out 4k, rarely ever jumping over 50/60 degrees - even overclocked. love it. hands down, it's one of the best cards I've ever owned.

wouldn't u mind giving it to me? lol, great card!

I mean what would you do differently lmao.

What would you do with a 4090? I just got one and ready to do all kinds of stuff.

Righttt!!??

Cuz MSI is junk that’s why it costs less

@@NahBNah this is the best your two braincells could've done??

Yeah I honestly just don’t understand how asus thinks their card is worth almost 25% more than msrp.

@@MisterRorschach90 Asus is the Apple of AIB GPU's.

I’m with you. It’s depressing when you see these guys getting to play with top tier hardware and I’m still on an RX 580.

@@jamezxh how about go work a couple of hours and buy a 3070?

@@felixfollmer3527 unnecessary

@@felixfollmer3527 it depends on a lot of things dude, don't have an attitude like that. Take my case for an example, I work my ass of with overtime and all I could afford was a 4th gen i7 and a gtx1060 6gig.

​@@felixfollmer3527 depends on your country, responsibilities, situation etc. cant just buy stuff

Basically game can’t run to game can run

@@uluth I was wondering what the hell that was? I've not seen that before. I was pretty sure it wasn't Jay.

It should help quite a bit, I tested 4 x 120mm Noctua NF-12 on a Kingpin 2080 TI AIO cooled 240mm radiator with the card pulling ~400 watts in Furmark. The upgraded push pull fan set-up dropped temps 6C to 8C and was much quieter in games.

@@micb3rd yea i have a bunch of those fans never had one fail yet wish that suprim was actually a 360 or a 280 size tough or maybe even thicker seems like they went with slimmest thing they could find.

Elaborate please

@@bradcole2015 Around the time that I commented, MSI was having issues with premature clogging of their AIO's. Greg Salazar made a couple of videos explaining the situation, but at this point I'm not sure if any of it is still relevant

@macsgo2hell Legend, thanks for reply. I will check the vids out. 👊

The liquid x covers all vrm and die.

Going to miss EVGA GPU's...I've been rockin an EVGA GeForce 1070 super clocked for about as long with no problems whatsoever! I love the hybrid idea for cards.

depends on how different this board is than the ASUS or Galax boards. that flashing is very dependent on layout, and seeing how wildly different many of these cards are, id say the chances are slim that those other branded VBIOS' would actually properly flash, rendering an 1800 dollar card bricked.

@@ghomerhust it has multiple bios on the card, it would just be flashing over one of them so that’s not really an issue. Technically it could damage the board if the power phases are significantly worse, but that would be pretty unrealistic. Possible, but not probable

I literally cannot wait to see the future liquid cooled builds and to see the results it's gonna be fun!

Lololololol

@@Acehole262 woohoo 3-5% more performance!

> I'd love to see a 4090 binning teat, That's milking it a bit, isn't it?

@@MrMartinSchou LOL whoops, typo

lowest increase generation we've had so far vs founder's, all the cards are voltage limited to a large degree.

@@Satarras90 Yeah it's pretty disappointing, it also seems like nVidia are being real jerks and keeping a lot of the good chips to themselves and giving AIBs the dregs which is particularly annoying because in Australia you can't even get a 4090 from nVidia, you have to buy AIB ones.

@@AusSkiller Damn that sucks. Doesn't surprise me though. I want to see shunt voltage mods from Derb8auer the most, that would be interesting to see what's possible/stable.

Ya my card is stuck a 100% power limit better then 93%

the part that matters for case compatibility is the size of the GPU part though. eveyone knows how big a 280mm rad is.

Why would you include the price of the TV? It doesn't come with the consoles What do you include for a gaming pc when comparing to console? You also had those saying you could get X GPU for the cost of the consoles, ignoring the rest of the system

@@brandonokeeffe1193 Exactly. To buy a gaming computer, all you really need is a good GPU. I've fixed 10's of thousands of computers in my life. 95% of the average home desktop computers I've fixed, just needed a GPU upgrade to be gaming capable. Which is why I say, I won't include the entire price of the computer, since most people already have one, just like most people already have a TV. Not trying to be offensive. But I think since English might not be your native language, your comment doesn't make a lot of sense.

@@TheTechAdmin so when comparing the price of consoles you SHOULD include the price of the TV even though everyone already has one, but you SHOULDN'T include the price of the rest of a PC system because everyone already has one? Re read your first comment, where you said "That's like when console gamers compared pricing with gaming PCs WITHOUT the price of the TV." You are saying the comparison of the console should have been cost of console+TV So if I had come to you in 2020 when I still had my am3 board with FX8350 CPU you would have just said get a gpu? So give me a recommendation, I want ps5/XSX level performance, my current specs are am3 board with FX8350 CPU and GTX 1080, what do I buy? How much does that cost?

@@brandonokeeffe1193 I'm saying people who include the entire cost of a computer, should also include the cost of the TV. People who only say the cost of the console, should only say the cost of the GPU upgrade. People who are WRONG are the ones who compare the cost of a console, to the cost of an ENTIRE new gaming computer.

Yep, Got 2 AIOs failing. Each after ~4+ years. That's ok with me, change the AIO. But what do you do when it's glued to a 2k+ card ? Throw the whole card ? That sounds dumb to me.

Yeah AIO water cooling always makes me worry about failure, heatsinks are just reliable

Apparently the R9 Fury X had defective AIO.... I am using once every day since 2016, not sure if I got lucky, or the issue is not as bad as it seems. I do however think after owning that this long that AIO is kinda unnecesarry and heatsinks look better

Same here. My EVGA 980ti Hybrid served me well for years, but the pump died in the middle of the GPU price explosion. I couldn't find a replacement pump so an otherwise functional graphics card became e-waste. I'll stick with air-cooled from now on.

Inno3D has one with a custom waterblock too, so there's plenty of options.

Battle of the junk brands lol

I have waterforce. It has a lower default clock but you can over clock insanely high. I have mine GPU +185Mhz, memory +1.5Ghz. No issues at all, not even getting hotter. This ends up with GPU always runs over 3Ghz. It has a way bigger copper plate that covers nearly the whole card. Only downside is it doesn't have any RGB.

@@yifeiren8004 "Only downside is it doesn't have any RGB." Thats a big up and not a downside in my book, most gaming hardware has rgb nowadays and its kinda driving me nuts that everything has to glow like a fucking christmastree.

@@Skid235 I like Christmas tree :(

Got mine for $3670 AUD 😅

Damn😂. Imma buy a hand full here and sell them for you guys for cheaper 2399 euro 😉

Congrats on the catch. 🥳 Gotta obsessively check prices. Today I got it for that price sold and shipped from Newegg. Only 4090 they had in stock, and it's the one I wanted, and I wasn't even checking, since I gave up months ago! I feel so fortunate! 🥲 Been checking since October and they were scalped to hell by other sellers on Amazon and Newegg.

Wait, most people don’t use AIOs for CPUs? I thought CPU run really hot these days Large air coolers that rivals decent AIOs are rather heavy and stresses the motherboard.

@@kerbodynamicx472 most people get midrange cpus not 13900k or whatever so decent air cooler is fine.

@@kerbodynamicx472 Most people run "gaming" CPUs instead of the top-of-the-line ones and most don't even OC them because unless you're being CPU bound there is really no reason for it, so a good air cooler is all you need to keep the CPU in decent temperature.

My main reason for an AIO CPU cooler is noise levels, not thermal throttling.

@@kerbodynamicx472 They may, stock, but I've managed to make my 5900X run cooler and faster than stock by undervolting (curve on average -25-ish and added just a tiny bit of SoC voltage). Granted, I'm running an AIO now, but an aircooler was sufficient. The benefit is basically lower noise.

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Wait in 1 year 🤣🤣🤣

@@the1observer Sorry I don't understand, do you mean the memory chips will have issues due to long term high thermal operation?

@@malzaharkhalil3833 it will degrade overtime for sure, yes. Had a suprim X 3080 with high mem temps on day 1. When I sold it it was over 95*C while light gaming, would heat my room so bad.

@@the1observer oh my, that's not good. I was looking forward to the RTX 4090 suprim x (air cooled version) when it was back in stock. 🥲

@@malzaharkhalil3833 Use it and sell it as soon as the 5k series drops or when you can upgrade wothout losing 50% value, it still worked it was just burned in. They use cheap thermal pads and paste for the memory but forget overclocking the memory. The gpu's are binned but the memory chip will hold you back for sure.

Aftermarket right angle adapters are confirmed and on the way. I have a feeling Nvidia is going to have to include a new right angle adapter instead of the one they have now with all their future 40 series sales.

From the reviews I've seen, that radiator puts out a crazy amount of heat. Dumping 450+W of heat into your case isn't a great idea. I'm interested to see how the temps on this card would do with it mounted as an exhaust with a 13900k water-cooled as an intake, even though I'd never buy a 13900k. That would still be up to 300W of heat pushed into the case. You'd have to choose between a hot CPU or hot GPU.

@@zues287 I have it mounted in a Corsair 4000D case as an exhaust (out of the front), with a H115i i7-11700k liquid cooler at the top as intake. I switched my back fan to point forward so all the air flows in the same direction. This smaller card with a big case allowed me to put the side panel on without putting real pressure on the power cable, which is a huge deal it appears! The heat is real, and I am glad it is coming out of the case and not into it! CPU stays at 51, GPU stays at 62 under full game load.

I set mine up as a side intake on my 5000D Airflow. I have a 360mm AIO as top exhaust cooling my 5900X. The difference in temps (generally) on components and CPU coolant is about 5-6 C higher than without this 4090 and cooler. I had a 3090 Ti FTW3 Ultra before. In translation, my temps are all at very acceptable levels and I'm not pumping out that much more heat than before. I'm still messing with my radiator position, but only out of curiosity. It works great as is. I'm loving my new 4090!

Unless your benchmarking or pushing it to its absolute limits you won't hit anywhere near 400w of power. I tried with mine. Best I could get was 280w at 4k@120

If you want best price performance, it’s always the best to pick up the cheapest card, the cooling and stuff only change the performance for like 5-8% in the past, and this generation it matters even less with the power and voltage limit. I would say paying 20% more for 3-5% at the top end it’s not worth it but fair.

​@@changliu7346 Not really that, I just want to see if it actually performs the best, since it technically has the best cooling, to justify that price. These enthusiast grade products never have drastic improvements over the minimum product but little things add up. I want to see if it will like have a 10C difference with some overclocking that pushes the card to the limit, that then produces an advantage over other cards like the Strix or others, that's already interesting enough to see. Regardless of whether or not you will be buying it.

Agreed. I'm a big fan of both the 30 and 40 series Suprim cards as well as Zotac's 40 series offerings. For the Suprims, I'm just a sucker for brushed metal. I love the look of it. As far as Zotac goes, I think their cards prove that you can have interesting, out-of-the box design that isn't cheap and chintzy. They look funky but make it work. It seems like the other AIBs heard complaints about cards being too "gamer-y" and tried running in the exact opposite direction, except there's still plenty of that "gamer-y" nonsense on their 40 series cards but now the coolers just look like bricks.

It's the nicest looking GPU I've ever seen!! That design is simple yet also with some edges so it's not getting boring and with the brushed gun metal it's just gorgeous. I want more of PC parts looking like this. Imagine case in such a simple but noble design? Why did PC components never get noble and stayed like childish, awful and cheap plastic piles of crap?

Right bro gigabyte card seem like a challenger too

Except Gigabyte is a terrible company and I'd never buy anything of value from them, because it's a waste of my time to deal with their uber-crappy RMA service.

Pretty sure the mic is on auto voice. Super jarring.

@@anothernate3302 Proper annoying

You can fix it WITH! IFIXIT!!!!

i have a 360 mm radiator for cpu in front and then this cards radiator on top

Great idea on the rad fan curves. I mounted this in front with a 3rd fan and left my 360 min AIO on top. CPU and GPU Temps seem ok so far, and this is in ab NzXT 710 case, so not the best airflow

yep putting this in the front is a very bad idea.

Msi dragon center will or already has released a vbios fixing the power limit to 130 instead of 110

@@coltraindontworryboutit9990 You can get the new VBIOS on their forums now, but yes, it'll be pushed out via MSI Center soon. There are also places to download the higher PL vbios if your card shipped with the lower limit. My card originally shipped with the higher PL VBIOS, but my overclocks were the same with or without the added power draw. Seems like Jay has a decent card....he should definitely try out the higher PL VBIOS.

Same here, bro. Gotta keep the competition going neck-and-neck! It's good for us consumers.

@@SalandFindles Agreed. Even if AMD comes in slightly below Nvidea that will likely be my route. I'm more concerned with power and heat than excess FPS. If it runs UE5, Blender, and Fusion 360 well enough with less heat and power then I'm all in. Otherwise I need to build a case that doubles as a filament dryer and pool heater to justify the heat management.

My 4090 (same as video) barely draws 280w under full load at 4k@120hz, pegged at 2565mhz barely going to 50C. My xtreme waterforce 3090 draws 380w barley hitting 1900mhz and then thermal limiting. Super hot 🔥

There were 2 of theM on the shelf of my local micro center. Retail $1800

The question isn't whether it's worth the price, it's whether you want or require to performance it provides. If you're happy with 1080p gaming without Ray tracing, then don't get the card, but if you want to experience the best of the best of graphics then this card may be worth it. It's definitely worth the price when 2 overclocked 3090tis have only a 4.8% boost in performance versus 1 overclocked 4090 on the benchmark. Even if the 3090ti dropped to 50% of its release price, you're still looking at $2000 versus $1600 on a 4090 for 5% improvement.

@@ryanthompson3737 a 6700xt is still a great 1440p card for easaly 2 years

@@ryanthompson3737 Oh, certainly, if you want to have the bleeding edge of ray tracing and 4K, there is currently nothing that can even get close. It beats the best of the last generation so bad it is embarrassing. That said, for the cost of this card, I run high settings on Cyberpunk and pull 70 FPS with no ray tracing at 1440. My entire rig is less than the cost of the card. Case, RAM..everything. The tech is amazing. In my case, though, not worth the upfront cost, the increased power bill, nor the heat.

@@theplayerofus319 That wasn't my point. My point is that a 6700xt CAN'T do max settings on every game at 4k with ray tracing enabled. Hell, this card, on some games, also can't do that. If you tried running it on cyberpunk, you'd be looking at 30-40fps in the intense areas unless you enabled DLSS. Point is that it's definitely worth it if you want the best that modern graphics has to offer, or if you just want to upgrade from a 60hz to a 120hz monitor without hurting graphic quality.

@@raffi2287 Do you pay for your Power bill? Do you live in an area with Expensive Electricity? If not of course you wouldnt understand you fool. If you cannot fathom why having a GPU pull 450-600W is an issue on a consumer platform, you are clearly not a very thoughtful person. 1080ti Was a 250W card, 4090 is almost double that in terms of power and yes it blows it out of the water in performance. NVidia is at fault because they pushed certain aspects of the cable and power, if you didnt think they were involved then you are just simply not looking at things realistically. If you are stupid enough to buy a 4090 just for gaming, congrats you probably also want to show off expensive crap to make yourself feel better over people rather then actually caring about it. Far to many people buy 4090s to feel better about themselves compared to others rather then actually needing one. That mindset always ends up being toxic, and maybe one day you will see but i highly doubt youll get your head out of your ass. Also AMD has said they arent using the 16 pin, multiple times so not sure why you keep spreading that. Partner cards might, but the reference one is not.

@@raffi2287 Why so hostile? Some people can’t afford high end cards because its too much money but they still wish to have them ( I was one lol ). Different people have different priorities. In my end, my 4090 uses about the same wattage (up to 40w more) than my previous 3080 ti. Not big e for me.

@@iCuStOmPR I'm not hostile brother, if you saw who I was replying to, you'd understand why I was speaking to him like that. He has since deleted his comment and "liked" my response, showing that he was admitting to his fault telling me to "get my head out of my ass"

It's almost winter, so it's free heat while gaming. Just the way I got free heat while mining last winter.

I have the money. I just don't know what I need for this card. I already have a PC but I guess my PSU is not good enough. CPU is not good enough. And I think my case is too small. But idk. And what if my motherboard isn't good enough? Or does that not matter?

I hope they're not using the same part that they're claiming "a small amount" of which were affected. But it's MSI, soooo.... IDK

what?? msi makes beautiful ones

I don't like em as a whole . I prefer Asus or Evga or w/e msi is not my cup of tea it's my opinion it has nothing to do with your opinion.

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most people want a reliable low maintenance system and water cooling is always going to be higher maintenance/risk than air

@@drkastenbrot What a load of BS! I had Fury X since it was launched and did absolutely no extra maintenance. Sure maybe some dust accumulates on the radiator and fan which applies to anything, but in this case is much easier to access and clean! I have 6900XT water cooled for over a year now, again no maintenance whatsoever.... in fact I didn't even have to clean the fan/radiator because 80% of the time fans don't even spin, so dust simply doesn't accumulate as quickly. I guess for custom loop that maybe an issue, but even then... unless you want to change the colour of the loop or you purchased bad quality dye and it degraded... it pretty much never needs any maintenance. So what you talking about is BULLSHIT... water requires way less maintenance than air, not more... and in case of AiO it is maintenance free.

@@lp9280 No watercooling setup is maintenance free. Water slowly evaporates and it will eventually need cleaning and refill.

@@drkastenbrot on custom loop... even then if you have suitably sized reservoir this will likely outlast any system (i.e. 5 years+) and even then it is as simply as adding distilled water into reservoir. AiO in my experience is maintenance free as no maintenance was required well after Fury X became obsolete (8 years)... it still spins to this day and performance is more than adequate (in fact I don't think it degraded at all). Again - seems like your experience is nothing more than rumours and exaggerations. I can agree that custom loops may require some maintenance, but that in comparison is less than cleaning dust stuck in air cooled GPUS... what is even worse is that many requires removal of entire cooler just to clean the dust (especially reference designs) and they are way worse than water cooling maintenance when you have to repaste and replace pads on GPU. So all in all - the statement that water requires more maintenance than air only applies in some very specific circumstances and on balance of probability is unlikely.