This is what a Mythic Zero disband looks like...

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@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 Ай бұрын
Look honey, another episode of Tales from the Low Key Jungle is on! 😂
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Truly a jungle. Wait until you see the next one on Tuesday!
@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro I would gladly buy this as a DVD compilation one day. What happened to low keys in retail? I haven’t been active since Legion. Did they scale up the difficulty of the lower brackets?
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@brandonkruse6412 they did actually do that this season. But to be fair it's been a clown show for a long while. Just a symptom of the gaming industry fostering less and less skill every year tbh. Coupled with good players quitting or not pugging out of frustration.
@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro I get that. That’s primarily what’s kept me away from the retail pug scene since Legion. I had a lot of fun running keys and doing world quests casually but the whole community has a different vibe these days. I’m just not as skilled of a player as I was a few years back and with a wife and baby on the way, it’s hard for me to keep up with grind to get accepted into pugs. I’m hoping TWW has more entry level content for older casuals like myself that isn’t face-roll like Follower Dungeons and Heroics but not as stressful as Mythic+ I have always wanted a dungeon system where the difficulty is raised but you get different power-ups throughout the dungeon similar to Titan Rune dungeons from Classic. I saw somewhere that M0 will now be the new “heroic RDF” and that sounds great to me. I would be more willing to get back in if I just login and Que.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@brandonkruse6412 ya they made the old mythic zero the new heroic dungeons. But you might like Delves next expansion. Can be done solo and has a sliding difficulty scale. Seems like it can go from very easy to very hard depending.
@TheGraveyarder
@TheGraveyarder Ай бұрын
if i get these kinds of players in my key or just in an m0 it would totally kill my motivation to play with other people for the week
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
That's wow in a nutshell atm!
@leonightwalker8680
@leonightwalker8680 Ай бұрын
Hey Metro, You've been a great content creator for WoW, and I really appreciate all the work you do. It would be fantastic if you could create some guides for new and casual players, especially focusing on how to play Mythic+ dungeons, what party expectations are, and what each role needs to do. You're the best person for this because you're a high-level player, and people will definitely follow your lead. Thanks for considering this!
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Thanks, sadly I do not have any additional time right now. But I have sooo many runs catalogued I encourage people to use the spreadsheet and learn that way. Also if you have any questions I'm more than happy to answer them!
@CaledonianCraft
@CaledonianCraft Ай бұрын
Ruby Life Pools has always been one of my favorite raids.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
haha It could be a raid if you are from the Primalist perspective I suppose... That alexstrazsa fight at the end is tough though...
@CaledonianCraft
@CaledonianCraft Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro Haha facts.
@Mongo11b
@Mongo11b Ай бұрын
The keyholder probably shouldn't be critiquing anyone else when hes not bright enough to realize what the two dps are talking about.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
He CERTAINLY shouldn't be critiquing them if he doesn't know how to spell the words he is using to do so hahahah
@Kittsuera
@Kittsuera Ай бұрын
Ty for going over this, i didnt even notice the party frames changed. is the oddest thing to see. i was assuming maybe the Lock had thought it was supposed to be a key but i guess that's not necessarily the case.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Ya no idea what the issue is. But it's hilarious how it all goes down.
@celestielsigh
@celestielsigh Ай бұрын
6 players was killing me XD This is too funny
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
This kinda stuff absolutely cracks me up.
@commonsense82
@commonsense82 Ай бұрын
Frames matter, I have a diff set up for party and raid.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
For a warlock you feel like its important?
@kenmesser3259
@kenmesser3259 Ай бұрын
Since you don’t run your own key and never form a group you are unaware of a bug that is auto converting parties to raids I don’t think it was his fault
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
I don't know why I would have to run my own key for that. I have never seen this happen in any mythic+ group, so its obviously his fault, but its not about "fault" here. Its just funny how this happens by accident, then no one can communicate the issue to him so he just quits instead.
@wtfenc0reenix
@wtfenc0reenix Ай бұрын
back in vanilla to wotlk i had many trashtalkers and leaver in group but since i'm back with legion i haven't problems like this back then or like you had. you are like a magnet for these kind of players. :D
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
This isn't even my footage man. Sadly, this is just the state of the game now. But we are able to laugh at it, so its all good!
@beebeemw
@beebeemw Ай бұрын
Loving the retro 90’s UI!
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
It is kinda old school!
@johnjohnny6702
@johnjohnny6702 Ай бұрын
Great chuckle from his reatrd (sic). I definitely believe him too - it's just insane, how some people function like that in game.. and in real life.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Strange stuff for sure.
@gam3rjae330
@gam3rjae330 13 күн бұрын
We are playing a game after all. Other than extreme cases in mythic+, if the people I am with are rude or crass I have no problem leaving and finding a different group.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro 13 күн бұрын
In non-mythic+ I can agree, its not unfair for you to leave. Would you say the people in this video are "rude or crass" though?
@videowatcher37
@videowatcher37 Ай бұрын
this is the confidence boost i needed
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Haha
@diatomaton
@diatomaton Ай бұрын
I think its also kind of frustrating that the party leader didn't realize that the people leaving were freaked out by being in a raid when they were expecting a dungeon. For me, it does mess with my unit frames and depending on which class/role I'm playing it would bother me. But I think its also pretty easy to communicate, "hey can you switch the group back to a party to fix my unit frames".
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Its likely just something he did by accident. But ya, the fact that no one actually communicates it to him is hilarious, and causes him to just denounce everyone and quit rather than switch it back lol...
@FeralKobold
@FeralKobold Ай бұрын
Gearing an alt running 0s and 2s at 450 ilvl and now I'm going to start recording them just for you, theyre so funny and some of them are more hectic than 15s because people are so clueless lmao. We did a 0 AV and my tank and I are used to doing the skip. Warlock and mage both just.... jumped to their death repeatedly refusing to use slowfall or even let me res them, theyd just die and release. We could have gone back up and done non skip but honestly we just wanted to watch them figure it out, it took like 10 minutes lmao I wouldnt be surprised if all their gear was red by the emd bc you know they weren't repairing
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Dude the falling to their deaths in av are some of the best clips. Have so many good ones from season 1!
@Legionthecomrade
@Legionthecomrade Ай бұрын
I always wonder now when I mess up or do something dumb if I get put on this channel and then I quickly realize every new video that the thing I did actually wasn't that bad lmao It can always get exponentially worse.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Ya absolutely. Like I say, if you are actively trying and not leaving keys, you are 10x better than the people appearing here.
@Cntrckt
@Cntrckt Ай бұрын
I need to start recording, I ran a dawn of infinite with a friend. We got up to Iridikron and the healer kept slacking but we ignored it. Anyways during the encounter the rogue keeps dcing on every pull, the healer wouldnt heal chromie or run to chromies barrier and each pull was a quick wipe. The tank and I tried our best to explain strats but the healer kept ignoring them and the rogue continued to dc on pull. Then it happens, the healer writes "..." after like the fourth wipe and says "you guys could find a new healer I am out." then the group disbands.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Record them all!!
@Damurmurzz
@Damurmurzz Ай бұрын
He might have been healing chromie, if the rogue wasn’t soaking then chromie takes more dmg and sometimes just dies if not played right. So it sounds like the rogue who was dc’ing not being able to soak caused the problem.
@Luxumbra69
@Luxumbra69 Ай бұрын
my details profile switches, and CD tracker and interrupt trackers do not function at all when in a raid group. Not that it matters in a m0, unless tank/healer are super undergeared.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Ya I mean me too. Just doubt that is why this guy is acting this way haha
@johnlinks
@johnlinks Ай бұрын
Did a NO yesterday. Wiped after a shadow priest pulled a pack when the tank pulled a different pack. Mage leaves the group after the wipe, i tell the shadow priest to if you want to pull, then play a tank and then proceeds to harass me for not being able to heal the +2 on my prevoker alt at 475
@Titan.Fox56
@Titan.Fox56 Ай бұрын
Oh I love people like that when they make a mistake instead of owning up to it they instead go on the harassment tirade blaming the healer and the tank lol
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Record them!
@Buffycat3
@Buffycat3 Ай бұрын
Another day of being marked safe from appearing in one of these submissions
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Haha
@skylarius3757
@skylarius3757 Ай бұрын
He should have started to type in raid chat instead to make the leader realise that it was raid setting, even though it probably doesn't matter
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
I think he legit didn't realize he did it. If some one just told him to change it back it would have gone totally different.
@kingtut8367
@kingtut8367 Ай бұрын
Yes you can do a dungeon in raid setting. However its annoying af and messes with my frames. So it kind of is a big deal
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Its not a big deal, no, not unless you are the healer. Just annoying otherwise. I'm sure its more annoying then to then go and try to find another group for the dungeon as a dps this long into the season, no?
@Schiggynator
@Schiggynator Ай бұрын
Maybe this was recorded while the Mythic Dungeon quest was active ? Where you do 4 Mythic dungeons to get a Heroic Raid item, that quest wont progress while in a raid group so that might be it. Still communication beeing the Issue seems to be trend... 😅
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Nope
@Rattja
@Rattja Ай бұрын
M0 and M+ are in general a bit crazy these days I think. At least M0 - M+10. Had a healer in a +10 Nokhud this weekend, where he asked people to help shooting on the first boss, cause apparently that 1 AoE ability is way too much to heal. When he was told to do it cause it makes no to make the dps stop to do it, and there is literally nothing to heal, he just left. Did not expect that. Never before have I had someone so incapable at that level. If you can't heal once every, what, 30-40 seconds and click a thing, what can you even do? How did he get there as a healer? How many backs got broken on the way to get there? Cause his score was fine, so someone must have carried hard, or he was trolling. And don't get me started on Bears that don't use iron fur for some reason, plenty of those these days as well. Makes me wonder if there is some guide somewhere or some streamer that said they don't need to. Or maybe it is because it is in the general tree and not a part of guardian, so they don't think it is a core ability. I have no idea, and I find it very confusing.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Record them and send them in if you are running into wild stuff!
@Ownage4D
@Ownage4D Ай бұрын
No one noticing the evoker pressing his abbilities 😂
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Haha I honestly didn't even notice it.
@Kittsuera
@Kittsuera Ай бұрын
was on a phone call and having to write some "emergency savings shopping list" that required a membership id to save like 30 dollars on 50 dollars worth of soda. kinda hard to not press the buttons. ^-^;
@darkwhisperings4641
@darkwhisperings4641 Ай бұрын
only thing that would affect would be the ability to complete quests, so unless they were trying to do the Complete 4 mythics or the specific quests for RLP there's no reason to be hung up on it being set to Raid.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Ya this was recorded recently so not related to that. Just some weird stuff going on. Can't explain half the behavior we feature on this channel haha
@Bunstonious
@Bunstonious Ай бұрын
All I can think of is how I would handle this if I was a DPS in this situation. I would immediately let the group know it was a raid group (in case they didn't) and then if no one seemed to care, i'd just run with it and see what happens. As an aside my party frames are in 1 part of my UI and raid frames are set up completely differently so it would be very obvious for me if it was changed, however as a DPS it wouldn't impact me as I set my frames up to be useful no matter if i'm in a party or a raid. Either way I think it's both crazy that the DPS care, and also that the leader did it wrong in the first place and didn't know what they had done or how to change it back. Wild.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Well said. Ya at the end of the day it was obviously an error on the leaders part and all that needed to be done was alert him to that mistake haha. But some how two separate players can't do that.
@Bunstonious
@Bunstonious Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro Yeah, was absolutely wild. Thanks for sharing it and thanks to the OP for submitting it :)
@SmokerFace12
@SmokerFace12 Ай бұрын
Someone once told me dungeon bosses cant be looted once party is set to raid mode just like we dont get credit for world quests in a raid group. I dont know if this is true or not, I always tell people to turn it to dungeon group if I see raid group during a dungeon aswell, since I never actually tried to loot a dungeon boss/M+ chest in a raid group haha.
@hugofreitas6799
@hugofreitas6799 Ай бұрын
The quest thing is true. At least was in legion.
@Neurotik51
@Neurotik51 Ай бұрын
Loot thing is not true, quest thing might be? Idk if it still is.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Nope, nothing changes with a raid group. The dungeon is still a dungeon and can only be filled with a maximum of 5 people. Have had a few "party" groups accidentally changed to raid over the years. Its basically just a UI function to allow more than 5 players to fill your group. Doesn't change anything about the actual content. Just like you can enter a raid with a party, right?
@ThomasBachler01
@ThomasBachler01 Ай бұрын
@@Neurotik51 it is
@robaye8681
@robaye8681 Ай бұрын
I've never been in a mythic 0 and had it set to raid so I don't know what would happen- I can only assume. I wouldn't continue the now raid if people can't take 1 minute to step outside to change it back. Depending on my mood, maybe I'd stay just to see if it's still ok doing it in a raid.. unless I was on my healer because my whole UI changes once I'm in a raid. So the lock probably didn't want to chance it not working out (loot) as a raid, realized the group should know the difference between a raid and party by the time they are in a mythic 0 and/or his UI was different because of it. In the end I think it was the right decision to leave unless someone wanted to stay for comedy and didn't have much else going on.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
A mythic 0 can not be set to a raid. Its just that party UI that gets set that way. Nothing changes whether you are solo, in a party with 1-4 people, or in a raid with 39 other people. Only 5 players can do the dungeon anyway. The physical instance cap still exists.
@eptic-c
@eptic-c Ай бұрын
Damn bro, you are not that smart, are you?
@ThomasBachler01
@ThomasBachler01 Ай бұрын
@@eptic-c what does that have to do with smart? This is an m0, I don't even know people that run m0 not even for twinks, so assuming people know what is a raid or can be a raid or what color the portal has seems greatly overestimated for that level of play to me. Nothing to do with being smart but all about knowledge - that I don't expect everybody doing m0 would have?
@robaye8681
@robaye8681 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro the entire video you posted was about being in a mythic 0 and making it a raid
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@robaye8681 huh? I'm telling you, you are misunderstanding what it means to do that. It's simply a UI change. No physical change to the dungeon can be done.
@Gemaco1397
@Gemaco1397 Ай бұрын
Sidenote, worrying about summons for Ruby life pools is ridiculous, unless someone isn't in valdrakken at the time. But, maybe people were trying to do some quest, which you wouldn't get credit for in a raid group, even if there's only 5 people in there
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
I'm not sure there is a quest to do, is there?
@Kittsuera
@Kittsuera Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro technically there is, but its one you pick up while doing the world content. i doubt anyone cares about the 200-300 ilvl item from it though.
@lampshades5436
@lampshades5436 Ай бұрын
This is where Blizzard messes up. There should be a quest or something that pops up a tutorial on how to change raid/dungeon difficulty, how to keybind spells, keybind movement keys instead of keyboard turning, macros, etc. Maybe even reference websites like wowhead/icy veins for info. Most of these players seem absolutely clueless, but the game does nothing to change that for these players sadly.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
I don't disagree with you. But this is simply a matter of communication. I think its quite clear that the paladin did not mean to set it to a raid, and the warlock is unable to articulate why it being a raid is an issue in the first place. Just a confluence of funny miscommunications that have grown to be bread-and-butter hilarity in the Mythic+ pugging scene. Now spilling over to zeros!
@pollxxv
@pollxxv Ай бұрын
So for me, if its set to raid, none of my OMNICD cooldowns for each player show up along with how my UI works. So I can understand why people keep asking for it to be set to dungeon instead of raid. A lot of people have their UI's setup based off dungeon or raid. I would have left too.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Do you feel like you'd need to use OMNICD to track cds for a zero?
@ThomasBachler01
@ThomasBachler01 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro I wrote in a different comment too, you have to assume that this is challenging content for them, so yes. Devaluing it with an outsiders perspective because it is an m0 is a bad faith argument and unfair.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@ThomasBachler01 disagree. Anyway it's just funny no matter what the reason. The inability to communicate in this game is always going to be hilarious to me whether you think the leaving is justified or not. Luckily it doesn't matter in this case. Just can't believe the paladin just gives up. Probably has no idea it's been switched to a raid. Ya know, because no one can explain the actual issue they have.
@ThomasBachler01
@ThomasBachler01 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro I would think at least 50% of all players don't know that you can convert something to a raid and back or how that works. I find it very natural for anybody that didn't have that knowledge to be confused and hesitant what might happen. Let's not forget that m0 have weekly loot lock out (right) so people that do that don't want to mess that up, its valuable to them.
@crackthecorn
@crackthecorn Ай бұрын
Even the most clueless members in my guild are not this level of clueless ...... HOW ?
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
It takes something special!
@markushimmel4267
@markushimmel4267 Ай бұрын
I was doing a Dawn of the Infinits and we were at the third boss when we had to find new players couse someone left. So our new Teammate finally gets here, its a pretty long walk from the start of the dungeon to the third boss and he says "Wait this isnt a key?". I just thought, my dude u just joined in the middle of a dungeon, which is not even in the active M+ Pool then u walk all the way to third boss and now u notice its not a key?!?. Afterwards he just left.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Oh my god now THAT I wish you had recorded!!
@TheFinQ
@TheFinQ Ай бұрын
To be fair as a healer it fucks up the frames big time but as a dps I would not even notice
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Ya I could totally see it as a healer for sure.
@lostman99
@lostman99 Ай бұрын
At the start of the patch I had a tank argue with me about M0 having percent requirements 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Those are the ones you wanna record!
@lostman99
@lostman99 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro you aren’t wrong. Had a 2 disband on my alt in a 2 NO earlier 🤣🤣. Pali decided he didn’t wanna kill the add on B1.
@theoriginalzinng
@theoriginalzinng Ай бұрын
Playing devil's advocate, could have just swapped it back to a group... but yes, just do the dungeon either way lol
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
I think he genuinely doesn't know he did it. Seems like an accident right? If some one just told him he did it and why it was an issue for them I bet you'd have never seen this footage. That's why it's so funny. Just zero ability to communicate in this game anymore.
@theoriginalzinng
@theoriginalzinng Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro right just be like "hey it messes with my frames, can you put back to a group?" using words is that simple... but also he could have identified the "its a raid" to him checking and switching it back. the only thing that being a raid does is make quests not complete so if it was a quest week maybe that was the reason. Either way shoulda woulda coulda did not = I did. Lesson here: if somebody gripes about it being a raid, take 2 sec to check and confirm it isn't set to raid. If it is a raid, you can still do the dungeon and just stfu as well unless its a quest week, then use your words and ask nicely
@Homer5235
@Homer5235 Ай бұрын
Maybe grp leader set the size to raid, then for same players UI switches to raid even they are only 5 players. That could be the issue here.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Would that be an issue for a warlock?
@CharlieVictor212
@CharlieVictor212 Ай бұрын
That diabolical grin thumbnail lmao. Please reply if you see this I think yt may have silenced me! Oops.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
I see it! Glad you enjoy, I don't think youtube ever silences people. It just might be something that you said that gets eaten up by the filters.
@HerpDerpDoubleDerp
@HerpDerpDoubleDerp Ай бұрын
Devil's advocate, maybe they thought mobs/bosses weren't lootable or something if it was a raid group, maybe they confused inability to get quest progress in a raid group with something else (was this the 4 weekly mythics week maybe?). Obviously they thought something couldn't happen in a raid group, but what!? That's the question. I've never tried a dungeon in a raid group tbh so I am just speculating.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Ya nothing happens. Just like nothing happens if you aren't in a party at all. Seems like there are others who don't know this so I'm not surprised. Just found it funny how the dude couldn't articulate what his problem with the raid group was and instead choose to leave when people constantly tell me how hard it is to get groups for this content.
@leequesada439
@leequesada439 Ай бұрын
OMFG that guys bags ... I hate that shit.. every fucking slot filled with junk he/she don't need to carry...My bags get even half full and i'm bankin/sellin shit.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
The funniest thing that has been consistent in wow. People hoarding and people hating them for hoarding. Since the early days I have seen this haha
@zye735
@zye735 Ай бұрын
As a healer, having it set to a raid instead of a party really messes with my frames because the 5-man party frames are way bigger than my raid frames and in a completely different location, so I would request group leaders to change it for 5-man content before starting if it was an actual M+ dungeon. Since its a 0, I might just deal with it since its easy and quick if the leader was really stubborn and didn't convert it back to a party, but most people aren't that stubborn if you communicate clearly and nicely. That being said, it was a warlock so they probably don't need to worry too much about the party's health at all so not sure why they were so bent out of shape about that they felt the need to leave, especially since its a 0. Converting from raid to party and vice versa doesn't require you to leave the dungeon and come back in either, in case that wasn't clear. Only dungeon difficulty.
@hugofreitas6799
@hugofreitas6799 Ай бұрын
My guy i went to 0s harde r them 12s.
@zye735
@zye735 Ай бұрын
@@hugofreitas6799 Oof, that sounds rough.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
ya, like I said in the video, the healer I can see. Weird part about this though is he wasn't asking the guy to convert it back to party. He thought the dungeon was some how transforming with that setting it seems? I suppose he isn't alone either based on some of the comments being left here... haha
@quintit
@quintit Ай бұрын
Maybe he sees a dk pet as the 6th lol
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
haha maybe honestly.
@matthewhoffman3068
@matthewhoffman3068 Ай бұрын
If they have a quest for the dungeon it may not compete when in a raid group. Not sure if that was the case here, but it’s my guess. Normally quests can be done in 0, but not m+. Non raid quests cannot be completed when in a raid group.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
There are quests for Mythic 0s?
@dariasraven
@dariasraven Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro Yeah if you have quest for the dungeon it can be done on any difficulty, but not completed if it's set to raid.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@dariasraven What are some examples of quests for this dungeon?
@DaveStarfire
@DaveStarfire Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro Ruby Life Pools: Primalist Invasion is given by a guy standing right outside the dungeon. The rewards are meh at max level, being at ilvl 250. It's mainly done for XP while leveling, but can be done on m0 and probably even M+ because it's a kill quest.
@WritesFantasy
@WritesFantasy Ай бұрын
​@@DaveStarfire this. But also. Was this done at the Mythic weekly week? Where you do 4 Mythic and get the buillon? That is my biggest guess. He would not get credit for the dungeon quest if it was a raid.
@atanaspanchev5558
@atanaspanchev5558 Ай бұрын
if a second person has an issue with this being a raid, the problem is with the one who set it to raid and "don't mind it". Instead of arguing and wasting time, switch it back. Addons, and frames get all messed up. Not to mention that they might have a quest that won't progress in a raid.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
What quests are there to do in ruby life pools?
@ThomasBachler01
@ThomasBachler01 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro Wanted: Ruby Lifeband to complete all quests and get reputation? Why does it matter though? He makes a very valid and good point. (I know that everybody in this video was just confused and didn't understand each other). But in a different situation, if one person wants it to be a dungeon and not a raid and that is the normal way to do it (with no advantages to it being a raid) why do they need to explain and justify? It's one click for the convenience of somebody else. I don't think it matters what percentage of other players mind or don't mind it being set to a raid or why they want that.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@ThomasBachler01 is it easier to explain why you have a problem with it or leave and go back in queue for this content, in your eyes?
@ThomasBachler01
@ThomasBachler01 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro ofc it is 10 times better to explain, but would you be able to explain 4 Chinese player, that speak 0 English what your issue is? I am pretty sure the guy also didn't know how to covert something to a raid or back himself :)
@snowballs2023
@snowballs2023 Ай бұрын
Happen to me few times but i just heal make it work.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Good.
@-GrD1
@-GrD1 Ай бұрын
The biggest question I have is: why do people click their spells tho? keeps amazing me how people can play like that 😆
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
One of the best players I ever played with clicked his spells! It's not as suboptimal as people think it is.
@-GrD1
@-GrD1 Ай бұрын
Ooh damn! learned something new today then, Amazing. Really wouldn’t have thought that this was possible
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@-GrD1 ya thanks to the global cooldown you have multiple seconds to move your mouse between the spells. So you won't lose actual DPS at least. Typically clicking is looked at bad for mechanical issues associated with looking at the spells etc
@BHRipshot
@BHRipshot Ай бұрын
idk what it is. but this season in particular feels like the quality of players has gone down drastically. i was trying to do a couple 0s the other day for some drakes. and i pulled the same way i would in a +10 or higher. the group couldnt handle it and dispanded. on top of that it feels like every group has a shadow priest that i have to carry too since apparently no one knows how to play that spec unless theyre pushing +20s or something
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
I have seen a lot of flavor of the month rerollers on shadow struggling. But ya in general it seems the overall pug population gets worse and worse and that isn't surprising given how many comments I read about people quitting over it. Every time some one quits, the bad players become more and more the majority!
@BHRipshot
@BHRipshot Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro its very true. and call me crazy but i feel like squishing the levels of keys just makes it easier for the bad players to get in higher keys than they should be in. this seasons a disaster
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@BHRipshot I would say it's the opposite on that topic myself. I think it's just easy to be bad at the game right now as a DPS. But then again the next video I'll be publishing likely on Tuesday will say otherwise so stay tuned for that haha
@nucleartickz
@nucleartickz Ай бұрын
well, not many of us wanted to really re run s2 DF dungeons and blizz knew this. so they released mop remix to counter this , everyone is playing that i suppose. unless you really loved DF dungeons. me for example is the first season i stay at +21s instead of running 25s. all my friends left , i had no choice but to leave as well. i bet there are many other reasons why good players are not here at the moment.
@Hadesxo027
@Hadesxo027 Ай бұрын
The only thing I don't get is why would anyone run these aboiminations? Even if you "don't have a key" you can literally go to the key retrieval vendor and get a +2 key from it. I'm not saying these people should ever go to higher content or so, but personally I would never go to any M0 its just a worse experience :D
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Is it? Why just because the players doing them you mean? Seems like a very good way to gear up atm.
@Hadesxo027
@Hadesxo027 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro well I don't see any added value to an m0 over a +2. Surely there is a timer, surely you can deplete / overtime a +2 ( believe me had 510 ilvls with untimed 2s signing up on my alt's key) but essentially the difficulty is not that far and unless you have a half brain-dead group you will +3 it. Even when I was interrupting 50+ times and the others overall did 6 (4 people) we still +3-d. Obviously the issue is that they won't understand why a key is timed and essentially these people will reach 10-15 keys and going with the same mindset. But you know how it is for sure :)
@Runzi333
@Runzi333 22 күн бұрын
I would assume the confused folks assumed the mythic stuff wouldn't work right when set to raid? For a 0 if they just keep arguing with me I'd probs leave too just cause I don't have a ton of time to play and if I think I'm wasting time running a mythic dungeon to not get the right reward I'd bounce too. I didn't know being set to a raid wouldn't effect things and would also assume it would break things just based on the fact a LOT of Wow stuff breaks if the settings are odd or if you don't do things in a certain order? It is funny that it's just everything going wrong for this run hahahaha
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro 22 күн бұрын
Changing it between party and raid changes nothing other than your UI. Its just some archaic way to allow groups to have more than 5 people in them. Really have no idea why its like this at all, but ya, a 5 man and a raid are not mutually exclusive in any way. Just like you can do a raid with a party, you can do a dungeon with a raid. Just only 5 players total can enter it!
@user-vp4ns1fw7v
@user-vp4ns1fw7v Ай бұрын
I really dont get why everyone are bothered with group being a raid when literally the only person it affects doesn't say a single word. Unless it's a quest week of course.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Ya, weird stuff for sure.
@dirusj4006
@dirusj4006 Ай бұрын
That ui... wtaf?
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Super old-school right?
@dannyd806
@dannyd806 Ай бұрын
Nah that’s strange! I’d probably dip if it was set to raid. It’s one click to set it back to normal, why not just do that, ya know? I’m going to start recording my 0’s though!
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Why would you dip though? What's the actual reason that it would bother you?
@stuhlpennr
@stuhlpennr Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro generally: sign of bad things to come. If people don't know how to convert a raid back to a dungeon, how may they cope with dungeon mechanics. As a healer specifically: I don't want my raid setup in a dungeon.
@Neurotik51
@Neurotik51 Ай бұрын
@@stuhlpennr Right but you'd explain why you want it set back and request it, which sounds way more reasonable. This lock just kept demanding 'SET TO RAID" etc, without giving a legitimate reason why. Big difference.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@stuhlpennr I would agree with this if he specifically asked for it to be converted back to a party. This guy is far more confused than that though.
@ThomasBachler01
@ThomasBachler01 Ай бұрын
@@Neurotik51 that's bullshit. The warlock clearly was confused and had issues communicating and barely speaks any English, he didn't demand anything, that was the only sentences he was able to write. Having it set to raid is not the intended or normal way of doing it and it would be crazy to think that every level of player would know how that interacts with the dungeon, if there is a level of play where it is fair and understandable that a player wouldn't know that its m0. If the warlock is unable to communicate his concerns and they guys just start the dungeon, then leaving is the right call for him. And to be clear, nobody in that group was looking for an explanation WHY he wants anything, instead nobody got what he wanted and his issue was - nobody understood him. nobody ever realized at all that they converted to a raid.
@boomersydephil2843
@boomersydephil2843 Ай бұрын
Lol this was great
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
agreed!
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne Ай бұрын
My god what a mess of a UI on that first Dracthyr :S That Warlock must be the most confused person on the planet XD. A classic case of someone who does not actually understand how the game works, but think he do.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Looks that way! Wait until you see Tuesdays video though. The actual most confused person on the planet dwells there.
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro Hahah XD
@cannibalcanyon
@cannibalcanyon Ай бұрын
i would have left too if it was set to raid, ive never seen how a dungeon interacts with a raid set group but i wouldnt want to waste my time finding out LOL
@Neurotik51
@Neurotik51 Ай бұрын
It doesn't. It only interacts with certain quests and I'm not sure that's even true anymore in modern wow. The only way it would affect things is it changes peoples UIs if they have certain settings.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Dungeons can not be set to raids. Its simply the party function. Only thing that would change is the UI.
@cannibalcanyon
@cannibalcanyon Ай бұрын
got it, thanks for the information, both of you!
@apotheonffxiv
@apotheonffxiv Ай бұрын
WoW is notorious with having players who expect to be spoon fed the correct info etc. Moment that something isn't to their liking they leave faster than showing up to the raid or dungeon. They also don't realize that it being converted to raid doesn't do anything other than block quest completion that isn't a raid quest and I'm pretty sure thats for open world only as well.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Ya sadly, even some people leaving comments here suffering from that same mentality haha
@BuddyguyBret
@BuddyguyBret Ай бұрын
So annoying when people have war mode on and you’re doing pve. Messes up ability to summon, and wastes time in open world fighting people.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Well luckily no one would need a summon to ruby life pools lol
@dant9526
@dant9526 Ай бұрын
The fact that YOU don't understand is crazy (you literally play more than most). The dude has it set to RAID, which fucks up EVERYONEs UI, and some UI's more than others, so that's why they keep telling him to set the group to a party. furthermore, the people left because HE has no clue he has it set to raid which probably let them know he is bad at the game, even if his not bad, why would they take a chance. ALSO, he simply NEEDS right clicks his portrait and makes the raid a party again.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
No, you are misunderstanding that. They do NOT ask him to convert it back to party. If they did, he likely would have recognized the fact that he set it to raid accidentally. Instead, we have a mess of awful communication which you have decided you wanted to continue here in this comment section.
@dant9526
@dant9526 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro the communication issue is due to language barriers. its obvious they don't speak English and are trying to communicate their concerns. Have u never played with South American people?, this is normal. some of them don't even bother to TRY and write things in English they do it in Spanish or Portuguese. I immediately understood what they were trying to tell him.
@dant9526
@dant9526 Ай бұрын
@@heythereguysitsMetro in this case the group seems to be from Europe, which has the same issue, not everyone can communicate perfectly in English. The Paladin is probably from Spain because of how he spells his name, the Warlock most likely German. the reason its confusing is because they cannot communicate 100% like you and I. But if you M+ as much as you and maybe I do we should already know what the issue and what their concerns were. I pointed out the fact you not understand was strange and didn't make sense. when he says its not in mythic its in raid, he means the group is set is set to raid NOT to party form. the leader kept thinking it was talking about NORMAL dungeon vs Mythic dungeon. AND again some people that raid and M+ a lot will have 2 different UI setups which will fuck up everything if its set to RAID.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@dant9526 This is not normal in my experience, no. Most of them will simply type in whatever language they do speak, which you would know if you actually watched this channel. Literally just uploaded a video of guys arguing in spanish last week.
@dant9526
@dant9526 Ай бұрын
​@@heythereguysitsMetro you're completely wrong. Most people outside the US will speak a bit of English. So MOST will try to communicate in English and some will use their language. the fact that you didn't understand the group was fucking hilarious. I could immediately tell what they wanted. you making fun of people for not being able to "spell" something proves my point, most people have the ability to speak a bit of English and writing shit down becomes way harder. reason shit looks so weird when they communicate in writing. this is NOT an issue with M+ this is just normal issues with communication between several people that don't know how to speak/write English like you. you probably have played with many people where English is their second language they just chose not to write shit down because its difficult. here they HAD to try because the idiot leader couldn't figure out something so simple.
@ThomasBachler01
@ThomasBachler01 Ай бұрын
While I generally really appreciate and like all the m+ videos, I feel like doing this with m0 isn't a good call. People are just being very judgmental and mean. I will admit that this one did have some merits in teaching many how raid conversion interact with dungeons, but overall it feels like m0 videos will just be used to make fun of people, that I feel shouldn't be exposed this way,. But that is ofc just my opinion.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
I could see why you'd say that if it were a video about their actual gameplay. This one is just pure funny. Plenty like that here, so not sure what has caused you to take exception to this one. Any time a blunder of poor communication causes hijinx, it will always get my attention and make me laugh. Tuesdays is going to be even worse in that regard so if you don't enjoy that, be warned!
@ThomasBachler01
@ThomasBachler01 Ай бұрын
​@@heythereguysitsMetro I think going forward people will make fun of the gameplay, and the UI, and the clicking and the fact that people are strafing or walking incorrectly and so on - its bound to happen. Somebody will send in a clip of something that is funny and you yourself will only comment about the funny event and then they will be shamed for their way of playing in the comments and might not expect that. Everybody has to draw that line for themselves and I very much enjoy picking out mistakes or making fun of people that do medium or higher keys, maybe even low keys. But m0 feels to me below the belt like going to a school play or school match and making fun of the kids in it.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
@@ThomasBachler01 fair enough, I respect your opinion on that.
@alohaitsjeff
@alohaitsjeff Ай бұрын
I think the gripe is, even if being in a raid may have no actual affect on the dungeon itself, there is a risk that it might. you kill a boss and there's no loot. do you really want to waste your time progressing through a dungeon in a raid and find out 5-10 mins in you aren't getting loot because it's set to raid? no, you don't. people who have no idea that they're in a raid or how to turn it off - these are the groups you want to avoid. the extreme level of the casual player base.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
There is no chance of that, no. The "raid" setting is simply for the UI. You can not physically change the difficulty of the instance into a raid.
@fabiusque4266
@fabiusque4266 Ай бұрын
I still dont get why this dude can make a living out of pointing out others people mistakes while playing like this himself.
@heythereguysitsMetro
@heythereguysitsMetro Ай бұрын
Is that because you are not intelligent?
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