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I WAS DEAD 🤣🤣🤣

The depiction of him in the game Hades is spot on for me in that regard. Like... He was never supposed to be the literal "devil" pop culture made him into. He is just a dude chilling in the Underworld. The worst he has done is binding Persephone to the Underworld by giving her a pomegranate or whatever, I think. Everything else happened because other gods messed up.

@@sophiesantosE yeah. And didn’t Persephone choose to eat the pomegranate because she liked Hades?

@@Zephirite. i think most retelling say that she didn't do it willingly. But Hades usually twisted her words on that afterwards, because she did take the seeds on her own. Some retellings say, Persephone knew what those seeds would do and took them purposefully. But that might be a translation error of sorts, because it might have gotten mixed up with Persephone willingly following Hades to the Underworld. Whatever the case actually would have been, Hades treated Persephone with true respect and love, which makes him stand out from most gods.

@@sophiesantosE true.

Honestly I think it'd be funny if, with Hades having this sorta theme, Persephone still had ominous harbinger vibes. She was called Dread Persephone and was associated with the Cthonic stuff long before Hades was around historically, after all, her being brought down there by Hades is more of a retcon.

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That does make a lot of sense. At least to Hades who’s immortal, his debate with Athena would be like an adult trying to convince a child that there’s no reason to add another 5m to their break, as they’ll soon have another.

Ya, Athena would definitely talk about Odysseus’ love for Penelope to convince Hades. The melody gives off that vibe, and it’s something has worked on him before.

​@@r-171 This version of Hades feels like a sleep deprived dad and his hyper daughter.

@@zegpath81 I could imagine Athina whould say something along the lines of "How would you feel without persophone for twenty years?"

He (unwillingly) take over the underworld and now everything is his fault, guy really got the short end of the stick

To me, Hades always seemed like a kind person, at least compared to most gods. Ofc he is not perfect, made his own mistakes and such (I don't really remember many stories about him, but I do sort of remember that he took Persephone to the Underworld and most of the time does not want her to leave his side), but he is not a bad guy. He is probably just usually viewed as a bad and dark person, because he rules over a part of the Underworld which can seem menacing and creepy, even though death is part of life for mortal beings.

Justice for Hades! 😂✋ Jokes aside tho, I really enjoy your analysises! 💙

Yeah i agree 🥺

@@SatomiAnzuko_chan haha, thank you 🥰 i looked into Hades a bit more. Turns out the only real "bad thing" he has ever done was binding Persephone to the Underworld by giving her pomegranate seeds or something like that. He did "just take her" to the Underworld, but that wasn't his own decision but much rather was it Zeus who told him to do so. I forgot why though. Apart from that, he didn't do much. Hades is also apparently somewhat of a young deity, way younger than Persephone and Demeter. The Underworld was originally Poseidon's domain. No idea why and how Hades came into the picture. Oh and fun fact: Persephone's "nicknames", Kore e.g., apparently all more or less meant something like "girl", "maiden" or "mistress". She was hardly ever called Persephone, which might be caused by some type of great respect and even fear she evoked in people.

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HADES: The musical

@@neilpakulath1503 Hadestown? 😂

​@@The_Rendom_Cat I... have not heard of Hadestown, thanks

@@neilpakulath1503 It is def worth a listen, focuses on Orpheus and Eurydice but Hades steals the show on his songs.

honestly one of the best Olympians and no one can change my mind

"where's the wine brooo" you got to love it

@Anonymous T loll well he was more than the god of wine. He was also the god of insanity. Plus he's the only one that stayed 100% faithful to his wife, Ariadne, after he rescued her when Theseus abandoned her. He was also the patron god of gender identity, as he was raised by nymphs as a girl for most of his youth. Essentially, he was the god of wine, insanity, and gender, along with being a pansexual gender queer icon

[Constellation, 'Father of the Rich Night' is looking for 'Queen of the Darkest Spring']

@@aaronxlycan2880 is that from ORV?

Orv ref spotted

i love how the typo at the beginning actually works in context

Omg I was literally thinking the same thing

That would be appropriate. From The Maiden to The Queen and back to spring again.

well if this was in the underworld sure, but WHILE in olympus, surely Persephone would have to be more like her mother, with her own distinct sound ofcourse

It would be cool if Perseophone's music was more dark? Historically, she appears more often and she's literally mentioned as "dread persephone". Perhaps some kind of a fusion between Hades's music and some of the stuff we see with Zeus.

@@vismaykedilaya1318 true, she is only truly Persephone in Hades she has another name when she is with her mother. She is actually more of a dual goddess.

Indeed

Her theme literally feels like a warm hug

I think Hestia is the only fully stable Greek god. The others have at least a slight bit of psychosis.

​@@joesplace2960 and given she's the oldest out of her siblings, I like that she's more mature

I would think that because every mortal will eventually end up at his doors, it would be almost irrelevant to Hades when they arrive or who sent them

​@@Cre8ivBookwormAgreed. I think, if anything, Hades would be sad towards Odysseus for sending souls to the Underworld, even if he sympathizes with the reason.

Digging deeper, Eris probably pokes not just at Athena's vanity but also the reasons she might give for wanting the apple: "Oh, I'm wisdom, mankind should choose wisdom over anything else"... well hon, either they don't choose wisdom or they just don't choose you. Which is worse? Does it hurt that you really are so alone?

@@tfly999 Personally, my theory is that Athena's otherwise-uncharacteristic interest in being "the fairest of them all" has to do with her role as the goddess of crafts. Because of that, aesthetic beauty is technically under her domain...just not in the way that you'd usually consider a person you're attracted to beautiful, but more in the way that you'd admire fine craftsmanship.

'Cause in my darkest days, Persephone's my drive

Genuinely would love to know the answer to this.

i would assume persephone likely would have had something to do with hades being convinced as it would be an interesting tie to how persephone convinced hades to let orpheus try and leave with eurydice; so likely, she would have been able to convince athena through persephone maybe?

Odysseus has a dog too man come on

"c'mon, you know whats like to miss your wife"

He could appear alone when Odysseus visits the underworld

​@@user-tp9uw1pr6m I'll take a nod/reference from Achilles too~ Like his line saying he'd rather be a peasant than king of the underworld in a song and during that part this certain piece would play or smth-

@@loserme414 idk maybe Achilles and his totally platonic hetero partner should have their own musical

My thoughts exactly. :)) It's really nice not to see him portrayed as the reincarnation of evil, but more like the chill and stoic guy he actually is.