that game failed cause of Blizzard only. but still one of the best blizzard game

Sorry mate, but that's not why. Blizzard is why. The game is great.

Hard disagree. Spent thousands of hours on HotS and you could carry. Because the XP was team based and curved, if you had 'one kid who doesn't know how to play' you could drag that clown around and it wouldn't end the game at first blood like it does in league. Being behind was due to a lack of map control and laning. HotS didn't just die it was killed. Blizzard pushed HotS marketing once, where league has a constant and reinforced marketing scheme. It obsessed over it's esport because Kottick is a clown and then got dropped to mishandle Overwatch.

HotS is like 5v5 basketball game, requires teamwork, which is actually fun imo.

1. The team based gameplay is infinately better than League's more individual focused gameplay. Not just because the entire team shares in the EXP, making it easier to swing back, but because it encourages players to have real responsobility to the whole group in order to win, instead of running off and doing their own thing the entire match 2. HoTS didn't die. It was left in a beaten down and forgotten state by Blizzard's collective incompetence. The higher ups wanted a game that rivaled League and Dota in popularity without doing half the work

Strongly disagree. Blizzard mismanaged all of their games over the past few years and this one was no exception. Betraying all the supporters, moderators, production team members, and especially the pro players in 2018 by spontaniously cancelling HGC ESports 3 DAYS before it should have taken place and abandoning the game afterwards was what killed it in the end.

HotS is my favorite MOBA. Everything is just so much more intuitive, and the maps have a good flow to them. I think the game started dying when they brought in crazy mobile overwatch characters and mana stopped being a factor for new heroes. OGs like Uther were oom half the game while tracer just ran around like a princess

Legit the best part is how the team works ,without a team u loose

Lateness sure, but they literally bailed on the game with a worldwide league and audience. Irresponsible and disgusting. 60k -144k viewers on twitch for the Title series and they bail..just wow

Strong disagree. HoTS team leveling mechanics (and other improvements on standard Moba design) meant less snowballing when one part of the game went poorly or one player on your team sucks and dies a lot early. There was more opportunity to come back mid and late game with good play or decision making and experience gaps didn't snowball as hard, since getting ahead by an entire team's level up takes a much bigger gap than getting ahead by the amount of xp it takes to level up 1 player in league (so you don't feel an instant effect from getting 1 or 2 deaths behind that snowballs into 3, 4, 6, 9 deaths and an automatic lost game that you get in league). Maybe league's system is better for someone who is good enough to pub stomp their opponents, but for everyone else on your team, they're still miserable playing a game against an oppressively over leveled player due to the feeder on their team. Sounds like you just enjoy being that over leveled player when you get a mismatch, which is fine I guess. But I think reducing the effect a mismatch has on the game experience when most people primarily play in public games with randoms is definitely an improvement over league's design.

One of my favorite HotS games is quite contrary to this statement. An Arthas on my team didn't understand his character role and was trying to get solo kills and kept dying. When my team tried to explain how tank characters were supposed to support a team comp he got mad and salty AFKed, so we didn't even get a bot to replace him. I then stepped up with my Artanis and got multiple clutch position swaps that dismantled the opposing team and won the 4v5 game. My other 3 teammates praised my strong positional awareness and ability to fill the tank role with a bruiser style character. That's a lot like how many of my best HotS games went. You're behind in the game and the numbers aren't in your favor, but your team makes a clutch play at a pivotal moment and turn the game around. I didn't need to be fed to outplay my opponents or set up my team to win.

Disagree. The whole schtick of hots is comebacks can happen at anytime, there's so many times my team has come back from getting stomped until equal levels and turning it around. If anything it made you keep trying until the end, i'd rather have an anchor in hots that's a 15-20 minute game than an anchor in league that's 40 - 60 minutes

If you think you can't carry in Hots, that's a skill issue, not a game issue.

That’s also the best part of the game, how it is all the way thru team oriented, IF your team know their role and Marco/micro play.

Bro is expecting all players on the game, plays the same way on a single player game, whilst playing on a multi-player game? The reason why HOTS failed is due to Blizzard's poor management or almost none.

you don' know heroes, when enemy team is pushing one lane they lose exp on another, and if you kill one of them when underleveled your team get tons of exp to comeback in terms of level and therese much more. I carried 5k+ games myself and trust me blaming teammate "kid " is not the way bruh

Since they dropped the main HotS team to program Diablo 4, the game has dropped the bar for both season novelties and champions. And here we are.

That's just a lie, even if someone throws in hero but team keeps a constant clean up of lanes and hunts enemy they have higher chances of winning the game

Okay. I thought I would be the only one to be disagree. You didn't played enough to know that some heroes can carry the team, can be late game like in LoL. The number of games that I won or loose juste thanks to one mistake. If you played with a feeder, the game is over whatever you can do, but it's the same everywhere. Heores didn't work only because of Blizzard that didn't make his job correctement. Destroyed the professionnal players, didn't update so much his game in the late years.

HOTS is the only Moba I ever liked

Siege is how you carry in heroes, you just haven't figured that out yet because you're too worried about being a kill god.

That's not why. It "died" because Blizzard cut the dev team over and over to work on Diablo 4 and Overwatch 2. HotS is a great game. But it was Blizzard's least successful game, so to their accountants, the HotS team was the one that made the most sense to cut. Also, if you get really good (not me, I suck), it's very much possible to carry struggling teammates

Not all matches. I've carried these same feeders you're talking about.

It failed when Blizzard popped that 2.0 update, it was due to poor decission made by Blizzard.

I really disagree. HotS was really good with its team based gameplay because it (most of the time) prevented snowballing from happening, which if I remember correctly, is something League and Smite players always complain about in their own games.

Oh you can POP off and Carry if you know how to double or tripple soak, you can easily get 15k XP and get a 2-3 level lead for ur team, just by afking in lane, and you carryed the game because of you ur team has a 2-3 level lead, cause ur Lost vikings or murloc or abby is just god tier

Main reason is no items. No items equals no variety and gets stale.

reworking tassadar so i dont ever play again, five stars

another reason is that it didnt have mass appeal and activision pushed it hard to make money from esports

Talking in the past sense as if Hots was dead or something, it's not, still got enough players to consider it working, for sure it doesn't compare to Lol numbers but other than Fortnite most games can't compare either but they can still exist and grow. I still have friends who play the game and youtube creators who are passionate about it and I myself think it's way more enjoyable than League mostly because it's way less random/chaotic so you can still play the game and have fun even when you have an inter, which is not the case for League because Hots with the shared team level gives you a way to carry your teammate with your actions, so it really feels like you have a big impact on the team, rather than on yourself only. So it's kinda the opposite of what you said and I see many people agreeing with me so I'm probably not crazy.

It would help if you don’t use upward inflections when you speak. It makes you sound condescending

I would say it's the lack of knowledge of the game. All the way up to master I've got the biggest goons. Last time I even bothered grinding ranked. Getting the same guy on my team three times in a row after watching him feed the first two and ignore all objectives was incredible

Its weird seeing people disagree with this take when back Hots dropped before it was even considered to be dying or left to rot. Many people from other mobas pointed the shared exp system to be one of their turn offs from the game as it never truly felt like you dominated your opponent.

the team level is the best part imo

Reasonable but its not at all why the game died lmao

I think it is due to lack of marketing and blizzard making tons of dumb decisions

I have enough hours into hots to say that shared levels is not why this game is bad. It is simply the matchmaking in rank that's ruining everything. People are stuck in bronze. On lol, i can easily become platinum on a unranked smurf account. You can't blame shared levels when you lose back to back. Blizzard games in general are handling matchmaking super badly. Try Overwatch 2. I'm often the one getting the most kills as a dps, but my team does nothing good compared to the opposite team and i'm just playing normal games. Results. Paladins is much better alternative for that reason, but it sadly takes 10 minutes to find a game on rank.

Ha, sorry, but you can pop up and carry your team. You need more practice. Even a good healer may carry the team.

Team based is way better than trash if legends carry nerds.

Absolutely wrong, shared leveling was great, blizzard is the issue.

Excellent point but it gets worse than that. Despite being labeled a “casual arcade game” everyone acts like a snob that’s unwilling to work as a team. Case and point. Various games where I ask my azmodan teammate (gets stacks for last hitting a wave with his dunk) to roam with me and double soak top and mid as team groups bot. He was complaining that he couldn’t lane against his opponent. I came up with a solution. Didn’t respond did whatever they cared to do had hardly any stacks till late game. When we had tons of lane pressure. The comp was also lacking since one player refused to fill so we had 3 front liners. This happens all the way into gold. Then past gold you have players that are snobby know it alls. The game community for being a dying game is kinda sad. Other games with dying community’s are usually positive and enthusiastic because they share the love for a niche game. Heroes of the storm is not one of them.

The game is too fucking simple. If you ever play Dota 2 then play this game you will be disappointed. The game is based off nostalgia

The other issue, is for the heroes that COULD carry based on design. Got drastically nerfed and made unfun to play. This game bent over backwards to break the fun factor to keep you team Reliant.

No I don't want to see overfed overwatch heroes

nah he is right, u cant simply carry if one dude plays like bot

So wrong about League. You can be 10-0 as and adv but you won’t beat the 3-0 assassin. You can be a 10-0 assassin but you won’t beat the 3-0 tank. You can be 10-0 on anything but you can still be behind if the enemy has had ample farm, tower plates, and dragons.

I miss this game

If you have 1 feeder on your team in HOTS it doesn't really affect a lot, it's just base on my expi, compare to LOL if you have 1 feeder teamates, and feed enemy team the whole game, that's affects a lot. If you're very good carrying the team in Moba, Lol would be the hardest game for you, you will always know you're good, but your team mates will fuck the whole team everytime. In HOTS if one of your team mates feed the whole game it's also affect a lot but not like in LOL, you're team will gap in level, and the only issue is your skills/abilites are weaker than enemy team, it's only the skills, unlike in LOL that you will really fuck up because when you have team mates that feeding the enemy a lot, they can build items a lot faster than you, and having item gap has a lot of effects in LOL. You can also feel that in Hots comeback system is very high, unlike on LOL that when 1 of the enemy build faster in early, the whole game turns into stressful game, because you're gonna farm a lot to chase their item builds. The whole game runs just like that.

So Ur problem Is that u like to play individual in a team game? I think the problem in this case Is you 😂😂

Blizzard failed. the game had infinite potential. What drives a esports title is a well developed esports scene. hots is not 1v9, and league is full of cheesey otp streamers. hots is 2v8. aba+illi/tracer, guldan/tracer/lunara+auriel. there are very few true carries in this game (auto attackers). but what essential for a pick to be good in solo queue is good waveclear. if you want to stand the best chance to "carry", pick something with good waveclear. or valla

Blizzard is completely out of touch. That's all. DotA is far more team reliant than any other Moba but it just isn't as obvious. Blizzard killed this game, and nothing else.

To carry in this game you actually have to play mechanically good in the pvp part of it. Wanna farm gold and stay away from arcade for 20 mins? Play LoL.

I'm gonna be playing League of Legends all my life! 😃 I play it since 2011.

Yep

True.

Bro you didnt detonate your ult on sylvanas You wasted your trait on a wave that you didn't even clear For whatever reason you're still om bot lane when they're already pushing it as 3-4 heroes from the enemy team instead of leaving bot and pushing mid or top I wouldn't take your words as to why hots failed seriously

yes yes finally someone gets it!!

Falo merda parceira esse jogo morreu por pura negligência da blizzard o jogo é muito bom não tem nada haver com o fato do level ser compartilhado

Seems like a you problem

100%

hehehehhe i remember that factor was stated by the fanboys as the positive side of this brawl game - team level - guess now all the fanboys cry hard

A lot of people disagreeing, but missing the part when if you have a shitty teammate you will still lose in your team fights and thus the game. It requires your entire team to be present in a team fight and also to out play them. Otherwise its not nearly as intriguing of a game because it is SO simple. You can't farm outside of xp, but it doesn't require skill. You can't out scale either since xp is for the whole team. It's a dumb down version of better mobas plain n simple.

stop smoking weed

league of losers.... bad like hots

this dude prefers solo. go play mmorpg; moba is all about team game

the game is shit scripter on mass alot hackers and the community only flame when is on loseing ,,, 2 years blizzard officiel channel from hero of the storm no comment

Grew up little bit you cannot make a sentence without using trash words.

Hots is a communist game😂