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f widowmaker trash hero design one shot hoe

completly deserved nerf, above plat this hero is absolute nightmare

@@kathority44 what's wrong with you?

I’d rather fight those two than a widow tho. Her presence alone forces everyone to play differently

Ashe is fine, but Sojourm definitely needs a nerf. Best DPS in any situation

ashe is completely fine lol

name fits i guess

@@jaybm1560 TTTTRU

Dude same literally 10 losses with my friend. The meta is broken

@@prodigalsun1678 It's a harsh time to Play Overwatch I feel since all the top 500s and such are grinding back up to that point. It'll probably be easier in a week.

@@Ozzy08018 true I hope you right

Idk about more op than widow but 175 sobjorn actually sounds really nice.

@@greenpig1175 she literally is ? she still basically has a one shot (195hp) because she can just shoot a little bit before hand

@@nursescure but she needs to shoot before and you can clearly tell when she has rail, don’t get me wrong she’s busted as hell but a widow from a mile away one tapping you is way more sudden and a lot less predictable.

@@greenpig1175Sojourn is definitely much stronger than Widow. There’s a reason why OWL league has the entire meta revolving around Sojourn and not Widow. Also Sojourn’s Rail Gun hitbox is way WAY bigger so that means more one taps than Widow.

Look up your monitor with the phrase "How to turn on high refresh rate" or something

Go to your display settings and make sure you’re on the appropriate hertz

Same :(

it brings me joy and happiness to see genjis get used and abused

Same bro 😔

No, they reduced her back to her nerfed health from OW1. Her original health for the vast majority of time in OW1 was 200 before they nerfed her.

And buffed Ball and Sombra

because he is not hitscan and it really isnt "easier" to consistently hit 1 shots as hanzo compared to widow or sojourn. if the enemy you are shooting at knows you are shooting at them, then the consistency of getting a headshot with hanzo goes down dramatically while the others don't have this issue because they are hitscans. you can literally dodge hanzo arrows by seeing the projectile coming at you from a distance where as the other don't have this problem. hanzo needs to predict where they will move to, to get headshot kills when the enemy is aware of it. if you look at GM/ top 500 there is only a handful of players who have mastered hanzo and his prediction shots to be able to keep up with other hitscan characters that dominate the elo.

That is just for modes that dont have role-queue, but either way, too low of health for a tank

So tanks wont leave him alone

He’ll get constantly dove on and won’t be able to get picks. Playing snipers in total mayhem sounds like actual hell

@@BriaBri i know, exactly why i want it

@@Ghost-dh1it that sounds boring af

@@maddiemassey4980 i just want tl see suffering

stop being weird man. they are obviously in a party.

but that would be pointless for how the character was supposed to be, they are an assassin sniper. but I get what ur saying, as a widow main this nerf is actually good now if a Winton dives I lit have to run away, or ill die. and if there is an enemy Widow with that Winton im for sure dead too much pressure! idk i thought she was still balanced before since she technically had a bunch of counters idk tho im happy where they at now i have accepted the nerf.

I mean you kinda have to be good to hit headsets consistently.

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She’s still better than she was in Overwatch 1 because there’s 1 less tank to protect the team/contest her.

???

@@Emma-ei2zk i Im mean remove one shot kill from hanzo

@@kikxio hanzos one shot is much different then widows, as she is a hit scan and his attacks are projectiles. Due to the completely different nature of how they are done it wouldnt make sense to remove his one shot

@@Emma-ei2zk i mean,i have honzo who is great at attack and defend from medium rang and I just have shot were the ename going

@@kikxio if you remove one shot from hanzo the character is quite literally dead. he doesn't have a lot going for him to begin with other than his primary fire one shot. if hanzo was that bad then obviously people would have asked for him to be nerfed in higher elo but hanzo can barely even keep up with hitscans in higher elos unless you've mastered his projectiles and prediction shots.

175 hp, I guess buffing ball and sombra would count as nerfs too but that’s indirect.

Not enough

@@reinerbraun2192 its more than enough. Hog meta is over. Which means dive tanks are back on top now. winston and ball can so easily kill widow now if they play right and now that sombra is buffed as well, while widow health got nerfed, all of them can easily 1v1 kill widow now. But ofc its up to the players to make these choices to focus her, if left uncontensted then obviously she'll still be as strong as before.

@@ashonline77 no its not

@@reinerbraun2192 that was a nice debate. you bring some very good points. Thanks for your input. You have successfully changed my mind.

They reduced her health to 175. Deserved

@@jhoyciv i don’t understand how it’s deserved

@@ghostriposte2977 widowmaker is busted in the high ranks, she’s pretty badly balanced ever since they took out a tank.

@@greenpig1175 lmaooooo

@@ghostriposte2977 Since the change to 5v5, characters who can one shot have gotten significantly more value. That’s why they nerfed Hog and why everyone wants Sojourn nerfed.

no def not I haven't noticed too big of a difference when dying but some cases are more apparent

No, but... With ball buff and Sombra minor buff... widow will has hard time.

it's not that she's unplayable, at least for me, it's just a little harder to stay alive

They did at one point during OW1, her CD was changed to 8secs. They realized how busted it was changed it 10secs then went back to 12. There’s only two ways to counter a Widow, you out widow her or you dive her. Her hook CD being that low makes it incredibly hard to dive her.

L2p

I think sombra should have 175 health to because she can escape easily.

@@CoolDude845 maybe, but sombra still does no damage. If they were to nerf her health they would have to buff the damage in compensation. I’d prefer if she did no damage lmao.

@@greenpig1175 lol if you headshot with sombra it does lots of damage. Problem is y'all just shoot the body. So yea nerf her health she's annoying and get away so quick.