Any at a lower price?

Oi dave, please arrange a gpu for me at msrp. Please 🙏🙏🥺🥺

yep they sure are

hey Dave, more budget stuff please?

Hey Dave, theres a typo in the video description. The 12900HK.

stfu i have core 2 duo

@@muhhamedtechtv5579 stfu i have a pentium III

@@vetamauromihali stfu i dont have a desktop :(

@@bestapexlegendsclutches8126 stfu im on mobile

Not so proud i5 3rd Gen dual core owner here 😂

bro same

YO SAME

- broke

E8400 was a beast tho.

Core 2 quad here. Basically everything past mobile 5th gen i5 is faster but oh well.

AMD's responded already by ryzen 6000

They didn't though. Look at the sites that are actually doing technical testing and the "feels fast-guys" like Dave2D. Everyone is saying this will be a nightmare due to thermal issues. It seems like Intel purposely did this move to so "tech-reviewers" can say how fast it is, but it's basically useless power as the thermal issues will eat away battery and long-term reliability.

@@pepesilvia4564 I did not know that thermals eat away battery but don’t you mean durability instead of reliability?

@@gitasumarni1760 plz dont post this kind of stuff here, we are otaku

i am waiting for another apple response to this

see hardware unboxed

Same here. I was keep searching ces details.

And he is going it for free as well. I mean, that this is not an ad at all. He is just a good guy who reviews laptops for free and he is totally unbiased.

oof

Bro we saw number today.

@Joe macbook was using intel cpus like virtually everyone else. No innovation needed if you control the whole market share. Edit : it's intel who did monopoly if you haven't got it already.

Customization won’t die out however even if they will be lest customizable, this is reflected in the keyboard community with incredible amounts of money spent for a different feel/sound/look.

@Joe he said 'was' bro

@@nabara6949 They used Intel because they had no choice. Now the M1 pretty much dominates Windows laptops in rendering and other specific tasks. It can even game decently,while the Intel ones barely struggled no matter what specs they had.

@Dave2D is this you?

My galaxy note 10 plus is also faster than my pc with gtx 750 😂😭

Brooo I have geforce 210 on my pc too lol

Same man i have i3 33200 and gt 210 and phone is faster

Guys i have Pentium Dual-Core Processor and my mid range phone is miles ahead 😂

I got a S9+ and my PC has a GT 710 in it. This shit sad

@カワイレナードの左手 he showed the battery life dude. And surprise surprise the battery life improved by a lot

@@propersod2390 still miles behind m1 but impressive nonetheless

@@artemis1747 of course it's behind m1... apple basically has a low power smartphone chip in their laptops while intel does not. But it's also ahead in performance compared to the m1. I wonder how the m2 will perform tho

@@propersod2390 yeah you’re right. I wonder what apple could do with a 100w tdp, and I also wonder if Intel is gonna stick to x86 in the long run. What a time to be an enthusiast

@@artemis1747 I think it would be better if intel stuck to x86. At least for another few years. There's so many incompatible apps it's insane. Even popular apps may not work perfectly on ARM

They do aggressively limit TGP to both CPU and GPU. IMO this is a better tradeoff for most people compared to the older 9560 where they just let it run at max power until it hits a brick wall and throttles down to 10% clock speeds and the whole system starts to stutter. On the other hand, I was able to stop the throttling on my 9560 by a combination of cutting holes in the bottom shielding, getting a laptop cooling pad, and buying a portable AC to bring the room temperature down. So I guess technically I have the 'best of both worlds' 🤣 (edit: although yes, I'd rather they just give it adequate cooling in the first place)

Avoid dell xps at all cost, their thermal systems and cooling are a joke for both xps and vostro series

My desktop is a pi400 idk why he has to kick me when im already laying on the ground

price .... hell no. we do not deserve it

It’s definitely gonna cost around or over $4k.

@@rengawr7734 they meant 4k resolution

ye for the price u can get like 3 Lenovo Legion 5 with R7 5800H and RTX 3070, which is performing only like 40% worse than these new MSI high end one. I have one and I can say for the price its more than awesome and u wont actually need anything up such specs rn to play games with high and ultra settings.

@@green_block For that money u could build such a nice desktop PC. In terms of price-performance ratio, there are significantly cheaper alternatives that are weaker but can still keep up with gaming PCs in terms of performance. So if u need like just a gaming pc to handle latest games i wouldnt recommend it, cause u can get powerful laptop and a powerful destop for $4000. Its only a thing if u really need the most powerful laptop and u dont care price-performance ratio 'cause u can afford it.

i5 is actually insane

@@yeeeooo7955 how is i5 11 gen

@@akshay5569 shit you are way better off with a ryzen 5th gen

Who you callin lower end 😒 i5 gang

@@akshay5569 I can play tons of games on it and more

Steven He: EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

As they say, Every new tech that comes out today is already outdated the second that it launches. It is just better to buy things you'll know will last you a long time based on what you need it for, not what trending now.

@@GothicDragonX I agree. I'm coming from a daily driver laptop powered by a 4gb 960M and 8gb of ram just a few years ago to now having a laptop and a desktop with a 3080 so I'm set for a while before actually needing to upgrade. It's so easy to try to upgrade to the latest and greatest but as long as what you have does what you need, you can be at ease.

nothing impressive btw, high amount of cores combined with high TDP gets you eye catching results, but efficiency / performance metric is still far away for perfection especially when used on mobile devices such as laptops. i would declare intel as a winner if they can pull off higher performance with the same efficiency as a M1 Max.

Intel 12900HK uses 115Watts to deliver that performance, while the CPUs it is being compared against use 45Watts.. They really should be mentioning that while showing benchmarks instead of misleading the audience

​@@mishomaisuradze8205 From your comments you sounds like true AMDumbs aka AMD fanboy, you just mad because your zen 3 and soon 6000 series which is still based on zen 3 totally got destroyed by Intel Alder Lake. It's not even competition.

@@evileye4797 115w is short burst, you obviously AMD fanboy who don't know how TDP works in Intel CPU, its not even the same like in AMD. Honestly you AMD fanboy are just mad because Intel put AMD to the shame with Alder Lake, not even 6000 series can save AMD because it still based on zen 3 and there are benchmark leak already that shows 6900HX is 30% slower than i9-12900HK. Edit : I just realized my comments triggered Apple fanboy and AMD fanboy because i said the facts Intel smoke those 2 CPU.

@@runninginthe90s75 dude, the 45w is talking about the Macs, harcore Intel fanboy here from what i can see

If they had just put AMD in they were looking at 100% performance improvement with much better battery life. Instead the XPS lineup will continue to be a solid "meh" with atrocious thermals, loud fans and shit battery life.

3070 Ti laptops are like 1599$…

How much does this thing cost ?

He's selling a laptop, saying it's 3.5k and performance 15% in games is not what intel's wants him to say.

@@medimeb edit: top SKU will be $4200 USD according to notebookcheck, (pre-tax, and excluding the upcharge on added storage and memory)

Assuming this is the GE76 Raider, the current configuration (12900 + 3080 Ti) is to be listed at $4000.

I’m using a $1850 MacBook. This thing’s tempting because it can game, but it’s not $4000 tempting. I’d rather build a comparable desktop for that $2150 price delta.

AMD is going to launch their CPU version of Radeon 6500XT LOL

Ryzen 6000 which uses DDR5 is only 5% faster than Ryzen 5000. And 20% slower than Intel 12th gen. AMD is DOA

@@__aceofspades ...well at least until the 7000 series which AMD will intend to release well before Intel releases Raptor Lake.

@@__aceofspades it’s not only that, that is a problem with AMD. It’s these fucking AMD suckers that propped the prices up on their chips with free marketing and advertisements. It created so much demand for their shit. AMD used to be a good alternative to a high priced Intel chip. Now they are both high as fuck in prices.

@dave2d hey can you block these scam bots. (ig the bot is gone)

Was waiting for the MSI GE series with a 16:10 display quite some time now. But they didn't change their GE chassis. This is the 3rd iteration of this specific chassis design. I feel this design looks cool and stupid at the same time. So waiting for them to change it at least next time so I can consider it for my next laptop.

It is a gaming laptop though

I'm more put off by the only 336 nits of brightness. And 1080p... c'mon, it at least needs to be 1440p.

@@SixSilverStones some of us work and game in the same pc. If we wanted two separate computers most of us will be using a desktop for gaming because almost always a desktop is far superior than a laptop.

Zen4 is likely to blow it out of the water again. Intel is barely competitive considering that they need 75W to secure a real win against the 5900HX. I'd like to see both chips compete at 45W to see where Intel really is.

@@Jimster481 amd Mobile chip is never good with that cut half L3. And zen structure hasn't changed much except increased L3. I don't think zen4 Mobil will look anything good

@@zihechen3111 I have a Zen3 mobile chip and it flies like the wind. No idea what you are talking about. Sure it isn't as fast as Zen3 desktop but it is faster than Zen2 desktop and Zen2 mobile. It also has really great performance at only like 25W, I know because I play Heros of the Storm with it and it gets over 100FPS in that heavy single threaded game with only 25W power. Even in games like COD It only gets like 28W power on my Alienware laptop (due to my custom thermal limitations) and it flies. Intel is literally nowhere near this in terms of efficiency. It is once again Intel pumping their chips with tons of power and turning the clocks up to 11 (past 5Ghz) in order to win in anything.

@@Jimster481 12400 is running at 30w when 5600x running at 90w during gaming. Same performance. They just got tested side to side.

@@zihechen3111 Maybe on some intel fanboy channel. Not in any real world testing with any real channel that does actual fair testing. You can watch gamers nexus or der8auer or even hardware unboxed.... what you are saying is 100% fake.

Eluktronics doesn't have good worldwide after-sales support. MSI has.

Eluktronics is a small private brand of Chinese laptop factories. MSI is a major Taiwanese brand. The two are not even remotely comparable.

@@RandomUserX99 Combine that with embargo, gonna be pretty hard to coordinate with Eulktronics. I trust MSI more tbh.

yep, Intel move fasts in dealing thing with TSMC, and Intel got the agreement. AMD is refining their APUs but they forget the business side : secure the stocks and production.

Everyone is having a chip shortage, and intel and other companies cant take advantage of it because companies buy waffers for chips far ahead of time so these chips were claimed before the shortage even happened. its an even playing feild, the only reason intel has performance right now is because there talented engineers optimized core counts. you cant really act fast on events like these because every company is reserving chips until 2026 right now and they dont want to over buy

@@ZAcharyIndy bro AMD is gonna come out swinging as well lol amd laptops batteries are un touchable at a low price

@@fabolousjada5070 not that well

@@errettfitchett2463 Nope, Intel did strategic partnership with TSMC that TSMC now building new fabric expanding their production at Intel sake. Apple as always already take step far far earlier. AMD in other hand seems in trouble on production.

$4000, according to The Verge

~4000 usd

@@kenansadhuvideos That's the MSRP, you're gonna have to add whatever ridiculous markup the scalpers want to that.

@@Krankynator laptops don’t really get scalped if ever. Manage to get the 15 inch (rtx3070) version of this laptop last year at release for msrp. Either way, $4000 is for the top of the line configuration, the i7 version will probably be $2000-$2500. Still a lot I know.

@@Krankynator lol scalpers dont scalp a laptop Hahahha they pay hefty upfront price and have diminishing returns.

Dell has to first fix their quality control issues. I don't understand how such premium products can ship with wobbly track pads

Ya i am planning to buy xps17. I want gaming performance and fix that touchpad issue.

The xps are way too thin to outpeform the MacBooks, even with the new intel chips. If they wanted these numbers, they would overheat!

Dell can fit in lowly end i3s and i5s and still won't be able to cool the xps properly 🤣

I wish Dell to develop a product that looks elegant while being perfectly capable of gaming loads over extended periods of time. The market demand is there, as most people woulkd want a single device using which they can do both, work and play. Like a hybrid between theri XPS and Alienware devices. I would buy it immediately.

This omg. I went from an Asus G75 to an MSI thinking they were just competitors and all that would change would be the brand. Holy. fuck. Was I wrong. A massive downgrade in everything but the hardware itself. I shouldn't have skimped out $100 for a sale.

@@Wylie288 wow. I remember before I bought my last laptop, thinking MSI might be a good way to go as an "enthusiast brand". Ended up getting an XPS 15 instead. Sounds like I made a good choice 😅

I used to have a laptop with similar issue. Awesome specs but not translating into desired output

I am running a GT72 2PE Dominator Pro with the fancy Tobii eye trackers as my daily driver for the past 7 years with a 4th Gen i7 and a GTX 880M. Having an MSI laptop was a dream for me, but it’s not great. The build quality is skeptical, with everything held by screws with the worst being the area around the bezels with unreasonable gaps. The LCD, lots of backlight bleeding wasn’t great too and the GTX 880M decided to fry itself and with no compatible 880Ms to replace it with. Currently using it as a desktop rig with an external keyboard, due to previous water spills that ruined some of the SteelSeries keys with RGB still working!

Check out the video done by Jarrod on the topic. Extremely enlightening on how the MUX switch hampers performance for gaming laptops.

Even 4k but they couldn't have kept the 360hz screen

QHD 240Hz and UHD 120Hz are offered as well, in both higher brightness and better colors. FHD is for the base model.

I wouldn't pick anything less than 4k with such caliber of hardware.

@@blue4059 And let me guess, the 4K 120Hz model costs $4000, right?

The screen is 360Hz, you better play at 1080p if you are to squeeze out that many frames.

If 105W power draw for the CPU in a mobile device is a "come back" I'm not sure what isn't a "come back". This chip draws way too much power, even on 75W it is far behind of the competition in terms of power draw.

@@Jimster481 105 Watt is the maximum idiot! Most of the brand will cap the power at 60 Watt. So it will between 30-60 watts

@@brahmasthaandipramana7591 if you see how much performance is lost going to 75W.... you think that 60W is going to be much better? What about 30W? These chips are not at all efficient for what they are. The 5950HX that they are comparing it to literally uses like 45W.... so Intel is using literally triple the power to have 50% better score....

The CPU and GPU are not upgradable. They usually aren’t.

@@abubakrakram6208 yeah, but compared to mac, upgradable storage and RAM and user replacable batteries is a huge win! The M1 macs will be rotting in some junkyard in future but these will still be usable

@@utkarshdharmadhikari6816 That’s true! Personally I replace my machines before that ever happens, but it’s nice to have.

@@utkarshdharmadhikari6816 😂😂😂 You never heard of reselling your laptop 💻🤡? Don’t dump it in the junkyard send your m1max laptop to me !

@@abubakrakram6208 no man, It's not about replacing the machine. it's about longevity and usability. It could be used by anyone; as long as the laptop is usable. Right now, there are many iPads and iPhone lying in someone's drawers or in dumpster coz someone didn't unlock them from iCloud. #HughJefferys