This Lens Could Cost $35,000. It Doesn’t.

This Lens Could Cost $35,000. It Doesn’t. - The DZOFilm Arles Primes

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The DZOFilm Arles Cine Primes provides a low budget alternative Cooke and Zeiss's high end Cinema Lenses, like the Cooke S8i and the Zeiss Supreme Primes. These lenses will give independent film makers access to some of the image quality that was once only available on a Hollywood Budget.
00:00 - A Whole Other Level
00:42 - Looks Like a $35,000 Lens
01:17 - What is the Lens?
01:41 - Vista Vision Coverage
02:35 - The Lenses I Tested
03:02 - Build and Handling
04:04 - More than A Clean Image
05:02 - Flare
06:10 - Sun Stars
06:26 - Close Focus
07:06 - Distortion
07:38 - Chromatic Aberration
07:53 - Bokeh and Background Blur
09:29 - Color Consistency Between Lenses
10:10 - Focus Breathing
10:38 - Resolution and Detail
11:36 - Conclusion

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@markwiemels 17 күн бұрын

GET THE LENS HERE (affiliate) Single Lens - geni.us/DvCKd36 5 Lens Kit - geni.us/rrBQ Camera Used for Sample Video - geni.us/kF2LK

@christopn 11 күн бұрын

My understanding is that full frame (open gate) essentially is Vista Vision which is 8 perf 35 mm fed horizontally like a stills camera is oriented or a full frame sensor. So 36 mm x 24 mm or very close to it.

@MisterDeets 17 күн бұрын

Those lenses are so sharp, bright and have such low aberration that viewing the footage of daylight subjects feels like someone pulled your eyelids open using cellotape (scotch tape for people in the US). I'm so used to seeing footage loaded with at least subtle vignetting and chromatic aberration that it feels unnaturally bright and clean when those things are absent.

@markwiemels 17 күн бұрын

Yah, they really are nuts.

@Studiotek 17 күн бұрын

The 3D Pop and Toneh is out of this world!

@ChrisM-yq2pq 17 күн бұрын

I want Toneh

@Josh_Sattin 17 күн бұрын

Fantastic review Mark! Those lenses look super nice and I would love to try them!

@markwiemels 17 күн бұрын

Thanks man!

@sonofthesea 14 күн бұрын

Brilliant and thorough review - thank you.

@RJvidmoto 16 күн бұрын

Nice work here Mark...I apprecate time you put into the video. I have several DZO lenses, looking forward to picking up one to see if I sell my Vespids and go all Arles...RJ

@antontaranenko8824 17 күн бұрын

Thank you for the nice review ☺️ You are very much right about vignetting😊 Many of my friends which making a living by videography and photography, and myself, boosting vignette manually on the modern vignetteless lenses to add 3d pop of the subject and add a depth to the scene... The only difference is, expensive vignetteless lenses allowing you composition flexibility placing subject in any place of the frame, and the rest you just apply in post ... The lenses with vignette are constraining you to the center of the frame, because vignette is a signs of other abberations on the edge...😊😊

@chosenideahandle 15 күн бұрын

Excellent video, as always! I lean toward clean and clinical, with the option to add a little of what I like in post🤷‍♂!

@SWATxPolicy 16 күн бұрын

Mark, can I ask that next time you try to stop down a bit more? T1.4 is impressive but I don’t think it’s fair to give us 90% wide open shots when I know I would be shooting between 2.4 and 4.0 much more frequently if I owned them.

@markwiemels 16 күн бұрын

Yes, I totally agree. This is an issue when I do these videos, since I have no idea (from the file) what T stop I'm using, I end up shooting most of the footage wide open, so when I'm looking at the footage, I actually know what I'm evaluating. While shooting the samples I kept thinking, I would't actually shoot this shot wide open, in a real shoot. I appreciate the feedback, I need to work out a way to manage this better. Your comment has reinforced that for me.

@cinqo7 9 күн бұрын

Wow! Did you shoot the footages shown at the section: "More than A Clean Image" with that LUMIX camera?! Did you use any LUT or do any heavy grading? Was it a SOOC footage video? Thanks!!! Amazing video!

@markwiemels 9 күн бұрын

It was Panasonic V-Log with the Phantom ARRI LUT (Neutral). You can get the same results with about any camera and those LUTS.

@SIBIRIAKoriginal 17 күн бұрын

did I hear it right? EF? EF???? 😩 I'm crying out of happiness.

@Dezdirectz 16 күн бұрын

Yes

@nick_salazar 8 күн бұрын

Hey Mark, I think your review is really well-suited for your usual prosumer audience (in terms of how you describe it in the video's intro). But if you don't mind me busting in on your turf, I'd suggest just a couple of subtle ways to think about high-end cine glass which may be useful to you in future reviews of this kind. And keep in mind, these are just MY thoughts, so they may be totally worthless. First, comparisons against higher-tier lenses are rarely about chart performance, the exact shape of corner bokeh, etc. Keep in mind that until very recently, we all experienced movies in 1080p, which is just a 2 megapixel image. At that level, a lot of those very fine details never mattered (and largely still don't). In my experience, the world of high-tier cinema glass is so much more about feeling and emotion rather than factual specs. One could argue that some (or even most) of these "emotions" are just placebo or crowd thinking. But there is at least SOME real truth to the "indescribable magic" of certain lenses. And for that magic, some people will be willing to pay a higher price. Second, these lenses actually vignette slightly *MORE* when wide open than some of their closest competitors like the Sigma FF Cine. and the Tokina Cinema Vista sets. You can see this for yourself using CVP's excellent lens coverage tool. And those lenses aren't crazy exotic; the Sigma set is the same optical formula as their Art series of photo stills, just in cinema housings. It's not terrible on the Arles set, but slightly more rather than less. It's also easily correctable (in my "Forever Lenses" video I corrected it out for many of the shots). Anyway, those are just some random thoughts, feel free to tell me they're totally BS, or that I'm a jackass, or just ignore it all completely. Again, lovely work, and it's been fun e-meeting you through these comment threads.

@markwiemels 8 күн бұрын

Some good insight, thanks for sharing.

@prostigeMarketing Күн бұрын

The 50mm is definitely on my wish list

@westwoodmanorfilms7779 17 күн бұрын

If someone was trying to decide between these and the Nisi Athena lenses, how would you weigh the pros and cons of those two choices?

@johannm7794 17 күн бұрын

I am actually between those two. I think a really big difference (besides the T-stop) will be size and weight. I just recently tried the Nisis and they are so small and light it’s awesome for Gimbal builds and easy run and gun.

@Rukiasriot1 16 күн бұрын

I wonder how these compare to the Zeiss otus lenses

@jamtotoro9850 17 күн бұрын

Great review! You've got some video samples in 3:2 aspect ratio. Is this cropped or does your camera support some kind of full sensor video?

@markwiemels 17 күн бұрын

Thanks. That’s open gate video, using the full sensor. Since I don’t have a vista vision camera, that allowed me to use a bit more of the lens.

@jamtotoro9850 17 күн бұрын

@@markwiemels That's actually a really clever idea to see more of the image circle. I actually watch your videos on a large 3:2 monitor, so it would be really fun to see an entire video like that!

@markwiemels 17 күн бұрын

@@jamtotoro9850 I almost did the whole video that way, but was afraid it would throw some viewers off. I may experiment with it in a future video.

@inSurfersParadise 16 күн бұрын

Ooooohwh! When the wool cheque comes in.

@gabrielmachadobsb 15 күн бұрын

I've watched a lot of Arles videos since their release, and while they look absolutely fantastic, comparing them to the true high end like Cooke, Angénieux, Arri or Leitz is overselling it. Imo they seem better than Sigma Primes but not as good as the Tokina Vistas. Considering the Sigmas are around 5k each and the Tokinas range from 6 to 8k, it's still a fantastic value proposition. But still not quite competing with the top shelf (and how could we expect them to, when the Arles set costs less than a single Prime from the top lines?)

@selkiemaine 17 күн бұрын

I wonder how that 75mm lens would work for taking portrait stills. I think that even the high end Sony and Canon lenses lose more sharpness than that does wide open. It might just be a case of adding back some Orton effect, or it might be amazing.

@markwiemels 17 күн бұрын

I think it would be good, they also have a 100mm, and the image form that one is bonkers good. I went with the 75 for the versatility, but the image from the 100 was stunning.

@johnmccrary6712 17 күн бұрын

Can you ever suggest Cinema lenses for Nikon Z series? I know manufacturers don't create cinema lenses for F/Z mounts, but it'd be great to hear a budget lens to adapt to these camera mounts

@markwiemels 17 күн бұрын

You can adapt any PL cine lens, like this one.

@Anatol19066 16 күн бұрын

Thank you for sharing this information! Will keep it in mind. Will i buy them? No. Who actually buys cinema lenses? But I will definitely rent them once I will need them.

@slurp3194 17 күн бұрын

do you know the distortion performance of the 25mm lens? i am really looking for a wide angle lens with the least distortion possible. would be cool to see more reviewers test cine lens against a graph.

@markwiemels 16 күн бұрын

I don't, but I'm trying to get one.

@noreaction1 17 күн бұрын

Do these work with the module 8 L1 L2 and L3 tuner/adaptors? I have a canon R5 RF mount but I can’t find if these lenses are compatible in that setup

@markwiemels 16 күн бұрын

Great question. I think they should, but I don’t know. I will see if I can get one to test. Which one do you recommend?

@ez8937 17 күн бұрын

My god, I am so happy I didn’t get the Nisi Athena Primes. These seem to be the perfekt lens kit for me. Any info when they will launch the 40mm?

@AlChered 17 күн бұрын

These are x2 price and weight of Nisi Athenas so there is like no competition. Different lenses for different purpose.

@ez8937 17 күн бұрын

@@AlChered You are right of course, but is price the main criteria for your lens choice? For me, optical features and the look are way more important (still in a certain price range). Yes, these cost round about a thousand dollars more than the Athena’s but they are much faster and size and weight doesn’t matter as much for my use case. And they are more consistent color wise. But they do share a lot of features so there is competition! They are very affordable (2400$ is still a steal considering they beat the Zeiss nano primes in every regard that matters to me and cost a fraction), clean, modern, fast, well controlled cine lenses with very little distractions like focus breathing. Tell me one more lens set with these features in the sub 2500$ range? I think there are lots of people considering both.

@AlChered 17 күн бұрын

@@ez8937 Yeah, the price and weight are very important aspects for me as i'm mostly a solo shooter. And I believe that a simple blind comparison would tell that there is a little to no difference between Arles and Athenas. Athenas (and may be Vespids) are now the best bang for the buck among the cine lenses at least from my point of view.

@atogweoghieaga2205 16 күн бұрын

Hi Mark, how are you doing ? Please can this lens be used to shoot pictures aside from video use which is their core? Thanks in advance for your quick revert

@markwiemels 16 күн бұрын

Yes, it can.

@javixo1997 16 күн бұрын

Vista vision is 8 perforations 35mm film, why is that supposed to be bigger than full frame if both are the same size? Am I missing something?

@timruegg2743 16 күн бұрын

its the same height but a bit wider

@Eissen_meteor 17 күн бұрын

those focus breathing control is insane...

@markwiemels 17 күн бұрын

Yes, it's impressive.

@theshortlist 10 күн бұрын

Reminds me of milvus and otus...

@JosephRossPhotography 16 күн бұрын

No RF mount 😢 these lenses look awesome and so does the kit price!!!

@markwiemels 16 күн бұрын

The mount is user swappable to EF mount. I’m waiting on confirmation of the price of the EF mount kit.

@JosephRossPhotography 16 күн бұрын

Yea I seen the price on adorama, it would’ve been nice to have a RF mount. Maybe in the future they have RF available. I have on adapter I don’t want to by another for my newest camera.

@FEARLESSHYENADESIGN 17 күн бұрын

You should slap an E-mount on a mason jar and review it as the most affordable lens for its quality.

@markwiemels 16 күн бұрын

I made one with a Coke can, out soon.

@halhowens4205 15 күн бұрын

Are you related to Mark Denney? His long lost twin? Same look, voice, mannerisms.... It's uncanny. Anyway, great channel!

@user-dz6ud6jw4q 15 күн бұрын

👍

@StephenOliver001 17 күн бұрын

The girl in shot doesn't seem overly happy to be there :l

@markwiemels 16 күн бұрын

Haha… She’s my daughter, and she’s not, but the face is mostly she has no idea what face to make in the videos.

@StephenOliver001 14 күн бұрын

@@markwiemels Understandable, now i think im pretty sure i would be even worse to work with at that age lol

@KaceyBakerFilms 12 күн бұрын

Hmm, I know many won’t agree with me. But this footage looks rather video-ish to me.

@markwiemels 12 күн бұрын

That's the high shutter speed. In real world use, you would use an ND filter, but I find the choice of ND filter will effect the image and colors (even the ones that say they don't), so I use a high shutter speed in the lens reviews.

@markwiemels 12 күн бұрын

Also, just a REC709 conversion, no grade or attempt to make the footage look like anything. Trying to provide a neutral image.

@JBGIMAGINATION 2 күн бұрын

Yes indeed, and has nothing to do with ND, it is the shutter, and ultimately it is the motion cadence you get from a panny "camera".

@marius_thsch 15 күн бұрын

Great video! But it is very funny to hear Americans get the metric system wrong 😅

@markwiemels 15 күн бұрын

What was wrong?

@marius_thsch 15 күн бұрын

@@markwiemels just the scale. There was an accidental addition of a decimal at the end, making the close focus at around 7 meters in stead of 70cm. It’s very easy to do, but it sticks out very easily for us watching from Europe 😁 But the video was very informative and now I am looking at getting a set for myself, so thank you for making a great video!

@yamazaru8236 16 күн бұрын

did I just miss the part about apsc and full format that you teased? 🥸 might rewatch later

@markwiemels 16 күн бұрын

When I talk about how the vista vision coverage means you get almost no vignette on full frame and below, even at T1.4. It’s a look we’re not used to seeing, and gives the images a very bight, ethereal look.

@yamazaru8236 16 күн бұрын

@@markwiemels ah, missed that point! Thanks 🙏

@markwiemels 16 күн бұрын

Oh, and in case it wasn’t clear, it was a good thing. I used the word “ramifications” which kinda sounds like it could be a bad thing.

@yamazaru8236 16 күн бұрын

@@markwiemels thought so, yeah :) Basically the smaller sensor is cropping the vignette away, helping the image you are getting to be that much more crisp is what I thought

@yamazaru8236 14 күн бұрын

@@markwiemels not sure if you keep tabs on the comments here, but something that I haven't seen done in reviews, is a quick comparison of all 7artisans 35mm options (0.95/1.2/1.2II/1.4 afaik). Would something like that be in the cards? Got the 0.95 and thinking of getting another smaller one for travel