This might be the worst fitting eBay or Amazon part I've tried... Voodoo Banshee Part 4

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This might be the worst fitting eBay or Amazon part I've tried... Voodoo Banshee Part 4

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2 жыл бұрын

This might be the worst fitting eBay or Amazon part I've tried... Voodoo Banshee Part 4
#yamaha #2stroke #build
It's not looking good for these eBay/Amazon plastics... What are your experiences with aftermarket plastics? Thank you for watching my video, you guys ROOOOOCK!!!! 🤘🤘🤘
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@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

It's not looking good for these eBay/Amazon plastics... What are your experiences with aftermarket plastics? Thank you for watching my video, you guys ROOOOOCK!!!! 🤘🤘🤘

@kdcustoms1272 2 жыл бұрын

I got the updated polisport plastic kit with the updated air box for my 04 yz250. Looked great until I tried to wheelie while standing 😳 now my rear fender got a nice stress mark across it lol. But it went back to original shape. Nothing a decal can't hide 😜

@TTR66 2 жыл бұрын

Aftermarket Plastics dosen't fit & Look Like OEM I don't Use them,If i can't restore the original one!I Search WorldWide For new old Stock!No Compromise!I am a Numbers Matching Oldskool Dude.Smile

@TTR66 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks,you Doing great JOB10-10!!but i Understand it's,Not possible to get all those Parts in Time to Run a Channel!Viewers can Not wait years!Big Big Smile

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

@@TTR66 thank you man! Yes, waiting for parts is one of the biggest obstacles I face

@AlejandroGonzalez-nz5nw 2 жыл бұрын

Drag cut them

@DUNEATV 2 жыл бұрын

Dude, your videos are so good! It’s incredible!

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that bro; means a lot 🤘

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

Hes best of best!

@PeteHager 2 жыл бұрын

The banshee is coming together well man! I’m so stoked for the next vid! I love how your weighing everything, the technical expertise you’re bringing to your content is beyond priceless! Thanks for all your efforts! 🙏🤘

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Pete! Sorry you never got to ride the 421 but this time around.... you have to try the Voodoo Pete! 🤘

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

Hes an incredible quad builder for sure Pete!

@PeteHager 2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelSabo I would be honored to ride this machine when it’s finished! The best part is you’re building it to be trail focused, it’s gonna be a ripper man! 😬

@PROTEUS_SEER-OF-EONS 2 жыл бұрын

These are the best production videos of any consistent you tuber I've seen with TONS of useful info, not just stupid entertainment. Thank you!!

@pbpaulieb 2 жыл бұрын

I HAVE THE ULTIMATE TRAIL BANSHEE, but I find so much entertainment watching you build yours! Keep fab'in up stuff and trucking along. Your plan makes alot of sence so far.

@Medusaxo 2 жыл бұрын

Love the effort you put into your production, no one’s putting in the work these days

@BraapEffex 2 жыл бұрын

Wow that's crazy! Thanks for taking all the time doing a video on this! Some people might not care about fitment, just happy to have non cracked plastics, lol... Awesome Vid!

@miked596 Жыл бұрын

Love the videos man! Just a tip. When you cut plastics. Use the blue tap and put on the side you're keeping. Cut off the piece but dont touch the blue tape line. Just get close enough. Then go with a sanding block and sand down to the blue tap line. Peel off the tap and thank me later. I discovered this on my own and the lines come out super streight.

@TBone1234561 2 жыл бұрын

I've had ebay/Amazon plastics before they've never been too bad to move around like you said with a heat gun but from very young age dad taught me you work with what you got unless you absolutely can't but 30+ years in a wheelchair as a mechanic can test you lol everything i learned was from him after going to a university for high performance automotive i still learned more from my pops than any school has taught me

@mrPancho003 2 жыл бұрын

Your videos really do help out a lot I’m currently rebuilding my trx450r your videos gave me some confidence to do my own work

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome to hear this man! Glad I can help you out 🤘

@MnWarrior350 2 жыл бұрын

Can't wait to see you Ripping this thing in the Woods! This Build project is on another level man.

@Brax2700 2 жыл бұрын

Obsessed with your videos, itching every day for a new video! Happy to come home from a long day and sit down and watch.

@SukiInDubai 2 жыл бұрын

The weight reduction on the parts is the most interesting 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@rickyhernandez995 2 жыл бұрын

Funny as hell with the rubber off the clamps “bear kill it” 😂 keep it up bro love it🤘🏽

@d4rky_60 2 жыл бұрын

micheal, i like how your videos progressively get better every time i watch because everytime you surprise me with the new edit / intro and i like it

@tjamez9910 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, love the long vids. Hope your recovery is going well!

@tyson8580 2 жыл бұрын

hes new way of filming and talking about the stuff is so good he should have way more subs

@daryleduardo7055 2 жыл бұрын

Dude you are really funny in this video this man she's going to look sweet it's going to run awesome man the port matching looks really cool

@manaaalsuwaidi3643 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video man! The URMOSI destruction test is so hilarious 😂🤣 good work man keep it up!👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@bigc7t 2 жыл бұрын

Mike,just have a aluminum ring/ spacer made and you can use the black cover. Basically a spacer and longer bolts... But a half inch or something and you can use that cover. Idk may be cheaper to get the other powder coated?

@IFIXATVS 2 жыл бұрын

I used two sets of plastics made by this exact company (Seven Blacksmiths) for two different KX85 dirt bikes and both sets were spot on. Hopefully it was just a fluke!

@johnbruzzi4381 2 жыл бұрын

Trail machine 80 hp crazy go for it Mike. Mike that hp number will beat you up for sure!! Your videos are the best love them all, wish you could drop one a day

@Bree0814 2 жыл бұрын

Dude it’s still lighter and we got some time! It’s badass lol I’m so excited I love these hour long videos

@hidinfrombiden6251 2 жыл бұрын

At 10:08 with the little mishap with the T-handle as soon as he said "oh shit" a Charmin Toilet Paper ad started playing instantly on my end😂😂😂.

@nicolasdelage2813 2 жыл бұрын

For losing more weight, you sould put a dynoport 2 to 1 pipe and silencer

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Good idea for weight but I didn't like the dyno charts I saw from them so I'm not sure it would go with my engine setup.

@kennethlittle5395 2 жыл бұрын

I've bought aftermarket ebay plastics for my 1985 Honda 250r ATC and had no problems except my shrouds only because I'm using and aftermarket 5 gal desert tank

@CountryFreshChameleon 2 жыл бұрын

I love the weight savings part of this build, I do the same thing sit and think where unnecessary weight can be cut 💪💪💪💪

@dennisbrooks186 2 жыл бұрын

Man I'm glad I didn't pull the trigger on plastics!!! And I had no idea oem were that cheap. Everyone I see them they r like 850 900. So I deff gotta go see rmatv. Really want full set of blue for my next build. Killin it with this series. Really good work on the port matching too. If ur waiting for motor assy dude u should really look into shift drum bearing mod and shift shaft bearing mod. Mechanical hulk could machine u up ur lower case in a jiff, order the correct size bearings, and that gives u a bearing behind shifter seal and on opposite side of the shift drum. Would compliment ur other trans mods freakin sweet dude!!!

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

I almost did those two bearings when I did my banshee the first time around. My trans shifted really nicely the way I had it setup or else I'd definitely take some time and do as you suggested. I'm not sure why people ask those price on eBay; I guess they're counting on people not checking on OEM sites 🤷

@waylon7371 2 жыл бұрын

Gen 1 Sabo work is spot on brother! 🤘🤘🤘 Looking amazing and cant wait for the next video!!

@BostonBanshee 2 жыл бұрын

This is amazing ! I’m so pumped for this build mike, I had a feeling about the plastics I just hoped they were ok, I was gonna ask you have you hurd anything about FORCE RACING? They make pipes that are almost T5s but for $550 raw finish, I was looking into them they are new just wasn’t sure if you hurd of them.

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

I did look at force racing and I think you're right; they look like copies of the T5. There's another company that make a pipe called the "T9" that is also a copy of the T5. I haven't personally tried either of these but I'd imagine they run okay if they're well constructed copies.

@stevencarter3290 2 жыл бұрын

cheap copies. Don't even bother

@BostonBanshee 2 жыл бұрын

@@stevencarter3290 I’m not I was just curious if anybody has ever tried them

@marklloyd3513 10 ай бұрын

I don't need to watch you work bro because it's the highest quality workmanship boss but i will watch it awesome

@jaimyswek 2 жыл бұрын

Most underrated youtuber! Recently started watching and i love it

@owendorsey707 2 жыл бұрын

That’s hands down the best name “voodoo banshee”

@Derekmoss82 2 жыл бұрын

You build the nicest looking quads I’ve ever seen.we have the same taste in style and look. Your videos inspire me to make some builds. But unfortunately I’ve never been able to save money to buy one to rebuild. I dream one day of being able to own a banshee and if that ever happens I will do a sabo inspired banshee build. Unfortunately I’ve lived a life of horrible luck. I’ve been able to get some small quads and dirt bikes for my kids but now that there getting older I haven’t been able to get bigger ones. I dream of owning a banshee literally almost every night. Hopefully god will let that happen before I’m to old

@bigc7t 2 жыл бұрын

Or.... You could even just make a ring spacer out of 1/2 inch polycarbonate, or 1/4 inch... However thick it needs to be... You could probably do that in your garage? For the black bp racing cover... Just a thought.

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

That's a great idea man. It might be more involved because of where the rear brake pedal sits. On the direct drive cover, it has a recession for it and it still hits. Definitely like this idea though man!

@chandlertremblay1128 2 жыл бұрын

I almost impulsively bought those plastics after seeing them in the last video. Am I ever glad I'm in Canada and couldn't get them anyway, Lol. I feel your pain Mike. I can't find a decent set for any less then $1600, so I remain fenderless. Great episode!

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Phew, I'm glad you didn't man; I wish I would have stated more clearly to wait for test fitment before ordering

@andrewstahl6916 2 жыл бұрын

This series is making me want to buy some of these parts even though I don’t need any of them lol

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I'm the same way; it's hard not to want to mod out your machine once you see the parts

@andrewstahl6916 2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelSabo man, I’ve only had 1 experience with aftermarket plastics and it was a set of maier front fenders, pretty sure we messaged a little about it on instagram, but I had to use a tool to extend the holes on the front since they didn’t line up properly, also has an issue similar to yours with the front brackets not reaching without a bunch of force pulling them down.

@MxShee 2 жыл бұрын

I pressed pause and did it, damn it lol 😂

@Crazmechanic 2 жыл бұрын

Taking weight loss to a new level putting yourself on the scale as well😂another great vid as always

@robland6118 2 жыл бұрын

I love the builds man. I do really wish you would do a build out of the norm. Maybe if you would build an LT250R maybe it would give the guys a chance to see where to get parts. Everyone has a banshee, the honda 250r, or the quadzilla. A lot of guys out here, like me, have an old LT250R. I understand they may not be as diserable by some, but believe there are some that have and love them. I love the channel and I love your builds. Just was hoping you would do something different from the norm. Something that's more challenging to find parts for. Maybe if you would do that than some of these places would start making parts for them again or start making parts for them now. Thanks man. Hopefully you will give it a thought. I seen your friend John had a video with an LT250R a while back.

@ni_wink84 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I could go back and tell you to buy a set of 2006 special edition OEM plastics, that’s what my banshee was and it had “carbon fiber” looking pieces and very nice black plastics, great job as always mike! Love the banshee build

@johnstancato8785 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad you're sending them plastics back cuz that's just terrible with a build this nice you at least want him to be a lot better fit than that

@chrisewing7275 2 жыл бұрын

if its yet to be revealed dont say but im really interested in what carbs you will be running i have the same alpha cub cylinders with fmf pipes and stock carbs and btw really love that you are doing this build you must be the first to document it becuase i have searched and searched but found nothing on the alpha cub cylinders at least before now so thats really cool man. looking forwar to the end result.

@Ondamon375 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure if you noticed this but I’m 18 min into the video where your going over your cases and why you can’t run the sleek flat black one, it appears that the polished case has an extension on it that the lexan is bolted to that is the same bolt pattern and and diameter as the clear lexan on the black case… so you may be able to just move the extension cord ver to the black case… it appears to be an extension made just for fitting that piece with the fingers

@NephewJamie 2 жыл бұрын

Great video once again fr! Me and my two friends bought 65cc plastics bikes back in 2021 and each pice barley fit, there’s definitely something going on frfr

@MarioLopez-zd5kp 2 жыл бұрын

Man all the things you geting for you súper build cant wait to see this banshee done

@kevinconnors9396 2 жыл бұрын

Hell yea man things coming out sick. Im more of a dirtbike guy more places i can ride in my area dirtbikes only but I love watching the builds. Its awesome how in detail you go with your thought process on parts. Its also good to hear why you picked certain parts. Keep up the good work its great to see

@ttatvoffroad2632 2 жыл бұрын

I cant wait to see a quad warz with this quad. Id love to see how it stacks up against your 250r in the woods. Im guessing the 250r takes the money but hey the voodoo aint even ready yet.

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

It's hard to say; this thing should handle entirely different than it did. We are already planning the competition series 🤘

@christopheravery5808 2 жыл бұрын

So, Saturday night I slipped on ice and broke my ankle and leg... so right when I’m doing pretty good after shoulder surgery now I am getting a plate and like 8-12 screws in my ankle and leg. Needless to say, I’m held back longer on building my quads 😤

@christopheravery5808 2 жыл бұрын

I’m hooked on this build already. I had an 87 banshee so the whole J-arm thing has my attention

@chrisberndt25 2 жыл бұрын

It's not even my quad and I can't wait for it to be finished lol love the videos bro!

@joenewberry5912 2 жыл бұрын

Really glad your happy with the pipes. If you ever need anything Cerakoting done just ask. I just did my axis shock bodies. Keep the long videos coming. Really enjoying them

@jaydingarcia899 2 жыл бұрын

hey mike i love all your vids but i was wondering if you could do a Tutorial on how to do a top and bottom end rebuild i know a thing or 2 about bikes but i would like to learn more bcuz sometimes bringing your own stuff to the mechanics can be a lil pricey it would be awesome 👏🏼.

@charliebeers2013 2 жыл бұрын

I found a 1987 brand new old stock Honda 250R I am thinking about buying for 8k. Your videos make me want to buy something rad.

@Djskmsk69 2 жыл бұрын

Love the videos, The banshee is going to look nice 🔥🔥🔥

@david-blues 2 жыл бұрын

I'd appreciate a video about the handbrake removal from the rear brake caliper, I own the same caliper and I was just thinking about some weight saving removing it 👍 thanks !

@williamneske6452 2 жыл бұрын

Ive been waitin all day for this

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for waiting bro!

@jonsheets6392 2 жыл бұрын

I’m gonna tell my kids this was Jonny bravo

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Bro I should see if he'll collab with me 😂

@GamerGavin04 2 жыл бұрын

Man im in this facebook group for my car right, and so lots of people in the group have nice builds and they look very quality. Everyone in the group tho always recommends going on ebay for parts but thats IMPOSSIBLE. It either doesnt fit right or its cheap quality which really sucks because I cant even trust ebay anymore 😂 Anyways love the vids man, the banshee is gonna be a BEAST

@mikeEshroom 2 жыл бұрын

I'm going order 2 of the thumb throttles 1 for the banshee and 1 for the LTR450 I'm just waiting for everything else I want to be in stock so I can order everything at the same time.

@chrisyeahbuuwassrileegowyn9279 2 жыл бұрын

Loving the weight detail concept, as well as the parts selection concept. Video on point as always..✌🤘

@joemusicman64 2 жыл бұрын

That heavy ass music at 46:30 was cool. Who was that? Noticed your music is always heavy cool stuff. Love it.

@rmzjohnon 2 жыл бұрын

Back in the early 2000's you had to buy 4 sets of plastics and one or maybe 2 would be correct. The equipment to press them is so cheap the first run would be small the middle run would be perfect and the final run would be oversized as the parts wear out

@BlueNoseParaCanoe 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine the combo of the soft bar clamps and flex bars. I think you'll have the best of both worlds put together

@roynelson7613 2 жыл бұрын

You could get with the KZfaq channel time machines he has done a bunch of these and he's had good and bad luck off of eBay Amazon he just finished one up but you really got it going on man you're super smart you know how to get this bad mama jama to the best of its ability can't wait to see it you rock brother, 💯💪🏽💪🏽♥️🤙🏽🤙🏽😎👊🏾

@mikeyboost4life69 2 жыл бұрын

Killer upload Mike! Keep it going man! We all lose our minds are there! You're all good man like always looking forward to next one!

@foxpuremage 2 жыл бұрын

You might need a new guard dog. Doesn't seem too vicious 😂

@joemusicman64 2 жыл бұрын

You took that well. I'd be livid about the plastics. WTF were the thinking? And yes how do they stay in business if they sell this quality of product. Liked the comment....Because stopping is cool...No it's not. Lol.

@carterdonar1246 9 ай бұрын

Bought some plastics like these in damn near new shape on marketplace for $65, again didn’t fit worth a damn but they’ll get me by for a while!

@racerx9223 2 жыл бұрын

If you haven't tried them out you really should try the pro taper pillow type grips, they're really comfortable and super grippy in the soft compound

@staygold902 2 жыл бұрын

Best atv videos on KZfaq Mr Sabo 👌

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Andrew!

@claudeoconnor4084 2 жыл бұрын

"gen 2, probably not gonna happen" should be a shirt 😂

@MxShee 2 жыл бұрын

“Am i turning crazy, yes” with face upside down on the back of the shirt. Would buy that

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Lmao 😂

@OdysseyOffroad 2 жыл бұрын

Coming along nicely bro, to bad about the plastics. No way i could live with that fitment either. send that shit back!

@danebowen729 2 жыл бұрын

45:20 is an amazing shot, lol. Keep it up, this is a great watch. BTW - JJ&A aluminum axle would be killer on this thing, and save HUGE amounts of weight. But not sure how the aluminum axle would fare on trails. But man, weight loss would be substantial.

@miguel.a.lefebre 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your content! I can’t wait for the URMOSI in-depth review. Really interested on getting a set for my own Banshee.

@captainjwcvlogs5831 2 жыл бұрын

Love the videos brother ive watched all 4 parts completely and love learning and watching what your doing! keep up the great work!

@bryscynkurr 2 жыл бұрын

I learn a ton form you man! I’ve watched most of your rebuilds, great information on everything

@jakekatalinas5448 2 жыл бұрын

She’s coming along great 👍

@kennynadeau17 2 жыл бұрын

bunch of interesting stuff going on here!! keep it up👊🏼✊🏼

@peytonismyname9258 2 жыл бұрын

you need a little keychain for merch! i would buy for sure. love your vids man

@johnk7093 2 жыл бұрын

nice video... Im 6-6, and am looking for bar risers or taller bars so I can stand up with out bending over... these urmosi might be the trick for my polaris.... thanks for posting this.

@the1320king 2 жыл бұрын

You should buy full bore plastics get fit and really look amazing

@Monkeigh7 2 жыл бұрын

Should go with Maier they have great plastic and line up very well.

@Davido50 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Mike . That's terrible bout the plastics situation! What a disappointment. Good idea to get Yamaha OEM. Have you ever used a Wiseco elite racer piston kit? Just ordered for my play bike ('06 Suzuki RM85) suppose to be really good piston kit. Love your build videos as always.

@johncordova2089 2 жыл бұрын

Your videos are great! Your attention to detail is incredible! The only thing that bothers me is cheap Chinese parts especially on such a premium build.

@goatboss3616 2 жыл бұрын

Them high bars a nice for tall people got a set for my yfz over a bar riser cleaner look and comfortable sitting or standing I'm also 6 foot 2

@jacoberbe2351 2 жыл бұрын

Sucks about the plastics. After seeing how my brothers Maier's fit. I'm glad I went oem

@jordanpanich 2 жыл бұрын

Look forward to each one of your videos!

@joeypooschke7914 2 жыл бұрын

Great video mike like Always. Love the concept you are doing with the shee, I can’t wait to see your spreadsheet on this build, I hope your keeping track of every all the weight you are adding and taking off be cool to see a spreadsheet of all the weight saving and weight adding parts to see what you actually save in all on weight from the OG shee. And as far as the plastic go ppl down here In Oregon 9 times outta ten we cut our plastics for the sand dunes. But you definitely need the OEM’s if you when I keeping them full fender. Keep up the great wk and the awesome videos and all the awesome editing you do. I hope you make hoodies one day for the Channel. I’m a hoodie guy and would love to buy a hoodie to support your channel…

@johnbruzzi4381 2 жыл бұрын

Mike have you seen 2v new video , turbo on trx400, there are no words. On every one of his videos I try and say in the comments, go to your page or time machines for real content and correct mechanics. Sorry to mention another channel ,but it’s just too funny

@MichaelSabo 2 жыл бұрын

Oh man haha; I think he's just having fun. I've seen his thumbnail pop up but I haven't watched it.

@johnbruzzi4381 2 жыл бұрын

@@MichaelSabo just watch you’ll see

@bobbymckinney1264 2 жыл бұрын

You keep putting the voodoo in that motor,it's going to be wicked fast,the pipes look killer man..

@ccroson7935 2 жыл бұрын

Full bore plastics for Yamaha banshee are the only way to go I’ve used Meijer and the garbage Fullbore plastic is the only way to go or factory plastic bottom line I’ve been running a lock up clutch on my dune banshee for eight years on the original clutch fibers lock up clutches are the Way to go