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@theoilybeard3287
@theoilybeard3287 2 ай бұрын
I did once book an MOT to "cover" me driving without one, but it was 100 miles away, and I got stopped en route. To my surprise, I got away with it! Afterwards, the car wouldn't start, and I had to ask the policeman to help me bump start it down the farm track I'd pulled into, which he did. Thank you mr policeman, it was 30 years back and I've not forgotten you!
@steamhammer2k
@steamhammer2k 2 ай бұрын
The police would not do that these days. The police have never been helpful to me, in fact they seem to go out of their way to make things more challenging.
@Cat10980
@Cat10980 2 ай бұрын
Back in the day when the police actually understood the title of Public Servant.
@SylvesterAshcroft88
@SylvesterAshcroft88 2 ай бұрын
There are still some good copper nowadays, they just seem to be rarer than they used to be, due to budget cuts, longer working hours, as well as just corporate liability, as they don't want to make a mistake that could cost them their job, or potentially somebody's life.
@svmwasthesheet1971
@svmwasthesheet1971 2 ай бұрын
You didn't get away with it only because you're allowed to drive it to an MOT test and back if it fails.
@skibidat9808
@skibidat9808 Ай бұрын
Did he clip your ear before sending you on your way lol
@thisisnumber0
@thisisnumber0 2 ай бұрын
My son's car was written off by an out of control oncoming car. It was still drivable, albeit banana shaped. The attending police officers watched him set off for home, 8 miles away. I had a car stolen from my drive (SORNed, no tax, no insurance, no MoT) and abandoned a quarter of a mile down the hill because I had removed the fuel pump relay. I found it on foot, just as plod arrived. He showed me how to start it with a screwdriver and told me it was ok to drive it back home. Funny old world, isn't it?
@leexgx
@leexgx 2 ай бұрын
This is the problem you have you get the older timers police officers a lot of them are super chill as long as you are (but newer ones are not) we had a two person incident that closed the road down for 8 hours (they was OK in the end as it would have been another 6 hours if they had passed away) and as far as I can tell none of the police officers there looked local and they hadn't blocked off the roads correctly (as 2 different directions traffic was turning into a closed road) , 3 needed blocking so they wasn't Comming towards a blocked off road just after the bridge blocked off so they had to go left and block right turn into the village so they didn't have to go around the back of coop, and 2 lanes behind the coop as that lead them to the same closed road) and they was thankfull of my local road knowledge as it was stressing the 2 officers that had to send traffic the wrong way down a 1 way road when they had taken the back road I put all the cones back once they reopened the road
@GeorgeMurrayMuirhead
@GeorgeMurrayMuirhead 2 ай бұрын
They have some cheek , your car has to be fit for the road lol , the road isn’t even fit for your car , it’s a bloody conn
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 ай бұрын
You don't get an MOT for the benefit of the road. It's primarily for your own safety and that of other drivers.
@PrincipalAudio
@PrincipalAudio 2 ай бұрын
And the road damages your car, costing you more money and giving you fails on your MOT when they find ball joints and other things that have been damaged by potholes. It's absolutely disgusting.
@classicraceruk1337
@classicraceruk1337 2 ай бұрын
I agree no car is fit for our rubbish roads. Maybe a tank is a good bet!!!!
@an1_uk
@an1_uk 2 ай бұрын
​@PrincipalAudio ball joints etc do need to move, and do wear with age.
@PrincipalAudio
@PrincipalAudio 2 ай бұрын
@@an1_uk Aye, you're right. Although, I have had one go after 2 months due to hitting a pothole. It's always the left one that wears first due to the left side of the road being worse than the middle. Same on most cars I fix. The potholes expediate the wear.
@thatsamemark
@thatsamemark 2 ай бұрын
The state of British roads bring more danger to road users than any vehicle without MOT currently on the roads tbf 😂
@Bridget410
@Bridget410 2 ай бұрын
The MOT is valid at point of inspection. Dated for 12 months but could become unroadworthy the next day.
@MrChalmers99
@MrChalmers99 2 ай бұрын
What happened with my old car, i was on a short drive (2 miles if that) and my car passed it's MOT the day before, There was a point where i needed to break and the car pulled to one side only, no crashes or anything else like that, but still came to a stop safely. I had no clue what happened, drove to the garage which looked over the car before the MOT and they said the ABS pump failed, no warning light at all, no notification, passed a Pre MOT inspection, passed the MOT and it was tested on the MOT. I was completely unaware of if apart from the pull to one side when breaking hard (It was completely fine when soft braking). It was replaced the day after, but it just shows that even if a car passes it's MOT that something can happen directly afterwards and you could be unaware of it until you use it.
@KarrierBag
@KarrierBag 2 ай бұрын
exactly and not a lot of people know this.
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 2 ай бұрын
But there is not time stated on the MOT document so that you can be required to provide a producer and get the MOT the same day, making it nearly impossible to prosecute. What used to annoy me was that I would get an MOT at the end of Oct with a note to say that the tyres were low on tread, when there was a demonstrable 6+mm of tread all around on all tyres, which is only 2/3rds the as new depth. (I found out later that the garage had an affiliation with a local tyre shop). The point about the note was that I always changed the wheels onto the winter set of tyres straight after the MOT so that it was totally irrelevant. They did the same to my daughter's car and I was on the verge of notifying VOSA.
@se9225
@se9225 2 ай бұрын
I have been a City & Guilds certified vehicle technician and certified Bendix Airbrake Specialist since 1980's. To be specifically correct.. the MOT is only valid at the point of inspection provided by THAT particular tester. You could leave an MOT station and undertake another test in another testing station. Another tester may or may not agree with the previous inspection.
@Bridget410
@Bridget410 2 ай бұрын
@@se9225 That's true. My brother has been a MOT tester for 40+ years. He keeps me updated with changes.. My friends can't believe that he has failed my car's a couple of times over the years. He is very strict and values his job. Any customer booking a car in could be from the ministry of transport, the car could have faults, if he doesn't pick them up he is in trouble. Last year a guy was dropping his car off and said as he handed the keys over 'by the way the handbrake doesn't work' my brother said 'that will be a fail then' the guy replied 'its ok, when you park it just leave it in gear'. He was hopping mad on his return to a failed MOT. How does a tester know it's an everyday guy taking a chance or the Ministry checking the place out?
@nigelh3253
@nigelh3253 2 ай бұрын
A good example of the MOT issue is tyres. Yes, they're good enough to pass the test, but only just. After a few months, and a lot of miles, they're a fail.
@JohnnyMotel99
@JohnnyMotel99 2 ай бұрын
If tyres were close to the limit, wouldn't that be a case for an advisable warning?
@nigelh3253
@nigelh3253 2 ай бұрын
@@JohnnyMotel99 Well, yes, it could be. I was thinking more of someone doing loads and loads of miles. Perhaps a change of job or the like. In the next road to me is a hairdressers with a picture of a woman in the window. She was one of the staff there. Sadly she died in a car accident caused by faulty tyres. It made me more aware of the problem.
@Paul-FrancisB
@Paul-FrancisB 2 ай бұрын
Both my motorbike and car are MOT and Tax and ULEZ exempt as they are over 40 years old, and no seat-belts, airbags or even engine management lights🙂. However construction and use still applies obviously.
@fredsmith6725
@fredsmith6725 2 ай бұрын
Daniel is wearing his matching wall brackets t shirt again😂
@thisisnumber0
@thisisnumber0 2 ай бұрын
It's code
@SusanWilliams-fg1ch
@SusanWilliams-fg1ch 2 ай бұрын
Yes!! Well spotted.
@elminster8149
@elminster8149 2 ай бұрын
Driveable does not equal road worthy. - This is nothing new it's been around for years!
@johnhopkins7614
@johnhopkins7614 2 ай бұрын
A couple of additional points which I think are worth mentioning. Even if you are just driving it home, if you take your vehicle for an MOT test early and it fails, depending on the item(s) and the category/severity of the defects, you could find yourself knowingly using a defective/dangerous vehicle on the road. I understand that in this scenario the previous MOT (pass) does not carry any weight in your favour. It is also the case when driving a vehicle to another location other than the MOT testing station for repair. eg. You could you find yourself knowingly using a vehicle on the road in the dangerous condition. However I believe you can take a vehicle to a ‘local’ testing station for a pre-booked test without a valid MOT pass certificate.
@johnhopkins7614
@johnhopkins7614 2 ай бұрын
Not sure that’s always the case. If both headlights were inoperative, it wouldn’t be categorised as dangerous for MOT purposes. However, if you were to drive the vehicle at night I’m sure you would attract unwanted attention.
@johnhopkins7614
@johnhopkins7614 2 ай бұрын
Agree, as long as no danger. Now DVSA.
@Brauschemann
@Brauschemann 2 ай бұрын
My longest trip to a pre-booked MOT was around 380 miles from Scotland to South Wales. I bought from an auction a very cheap written off van, due to vandalism, with a smashed windscreen, windows, hammered dents etc. It had no tax or MOT, although I had bought a one day insurance policy for it. Before I flew up to collect it I had it delivered to a main Citroen dealer for them to check it over to ensure it was safe for my drive back. I also arranged for a new windscreen to be fitted there by a local, and cheap, windscreen company. On the way back to South Wales I stopped off at 3 places to collect parts which I had bought on eBay for it. The worst part of the trip was the consistent pounding of the plastic sheeting which had been put over the smashed door windows. It was like a very loud drumming noise all the way back, and I shoved tissue paper in my ears, and that helped a bit. I didn't even have a code for the radio, so the only noise was the drumming. That was though around 20 years ago, and I knew I would be on thin ice had I got stopped, but it was an interesting and quite eventful experience. I have now grown out of doing such things now though. Oh happy days ! 🙉
@malfunction8165
@malfunction8165 2 ай бұрын
I thought all shitreons were like that.
@Brauschemann
@Brauschemann 2 ай бұрын
@@malfunction8165 Probably, but it was good for carrying lots of onions & garlic !
@WanDerer-rr8co
@WanDerer-rr8co 2 ай бұрын
I drive with no tax and MOT all the time. Being a trader and having a traders policy, the police pull me and let me on my way again because I'm insured for no mot or tax. And it must fall out with their jurisdiction as the cars are held in trust as part of my business. Expensive though... I'll say that.
@malfunction8165
@malfunction8165 2 ай бұрын
@@WanDerer-rr8co Are you self insured with a bond?
@WanDerer-rr8co
@WanDerer-rr8co 2 ай бұрын
@@malfunction8165 kind of, all I do is type the reg and I'm insure on anything. Unless it's a hire car or company motor taxi ect. A half dozen at a time I can have insured.
@D_pawson
@D_pawson 2 ай бұрын
Idea for a video. Gas boiler certificates when selling a house. Amount of house sales where the boiler isnt registered with building control is shocking. All the ask for is a service at point of sale 🤯
@KarrierBag
@KarrierBag 2 ай бұрын
All my vehicles except my land rovers were Test exempt as they were circus vehicles over 3500KGS , never got pulled by police or VOSA as it was then, now DVLA (I think). Only time I did get a pull was so the police could get my details.... so they could book me for a police summer family event, this happened a couple of times. I am a trained mechanic and kept all my vehicles in good condition and always fixed / replaced parts when required. When I bought tax it used to be £40 a year for any size vehicle, yes that stopped a few years ago now, so when taxing we use what's called a V112G Test Exemption form instead of an MOT cert. for over 3.5 ton vehicles classed as special vehicles. If the vehicle is pulled and found to have faults it will be treated like any other would be.
@adriancresswell9110
@adriancresswell9110 2 ай бұрын
DVSA is the agency you are thinking of.
@KarrierBag
@KarrierBag 2 ай бұрын
@@adriancresswell9110 Thats the one, am on so many meds as well as not being allowed to drive my memory has gone down the pan too 🙃
@malfunction8165
@malfunction8165 2 ай бұрын
A bunch of clowns booking a circus, that's a first.
@Mudster250
@Mudster250 2 ай бұрын
An MoT isn't a certificate of roadworthiness, it's a condition check of specific components. There could be faults that are not subject to a check at the MoT (or not possible to check), but which would render the vehicle unroadworthy. For example, the tester isn't permitted to dismantle the vehicle, and side skirts prevent the rusted out sills being checked. The car isn't roadworthy, but it could pass an MoT test.
@richardeggett392
@richardeggett392 2 ай бұрын
I know where you can get an MOT certificate for £20.00.
@sherihartley794
@sherihartley794 Ай бұрын
Very useful video, thank you. I was once on a drop off run of children back to their other parents on a Sunday evening when I heard a snapping sound, just as I parked up at the first house, I got out and found a large bolt conveniently on the ground just in front of the car. I picked it up, assuming it must be mine. I gingerly set off from that house, there were no strange noises and it seemed to be driving fine so I continued on to the next house, albeit still driving extra carefully and very very slow round corners, just in case a wheel fell off or something drastic. All was fine, got home and then drove it to the garage the next morning to have it confirmed that the bolt was indeed from my car. Although I knew there was a risk of an accident and that I would be to blame,, I didn't realise I could actually be fined even if no accident had taken place, if an officer had any reason to notice something wrong. Re insurance, I am meticulous at checking my bank every few days and ensuring all bill have gone out (as well as to check no unexpected charges) and one time my insurance had not gone out 2 days after it was due, it was the first payment following renewal so I called them worrying my renewal had not gone through, they said they were just late requesting it. With DD I cant understand why it would be late when it wasn't a weekend or holiday, it went out another couple of days later
@an1_uk
@an1_uk 2 ай бұрын
I recently had an MOT done and they'd adjusted my nearside headlight up. This was to the extent I was getting flashed by people. I think the MOT tester was looking specifically at the left-hand side of the headlight pattern and adjusted it upwards based purely on that part of the beam. In theory, that part of the vehicle should have been 100% roadworthy - but it was not.
@63mckenzie
@63mckenzie 2 ай бұрын
My very first car passed the MOT with a hole in the floor!
@johnbewick6357
@johnbewick6357 2 ай бұрын
@63mckenzie A hole in the floor is not a reason for failure, unless, it is within 300mm of a structural mounting eg a seat mounting, a seat belt mounting etc.
@63mckenzie
@63mckenzie 2 ай бұрын
@@johnbewick6357 So it would seem.
@1over137
@1over137 2 ай бұрын
Over here MOTs are done in government centres. However since the backlog since covid has not cleared, when mine was up in March I applied for a date. October.
@kieronallsop8855
@kieronallsop8855 2 ай бұрын
Still better than going to a garage. And to be fair, if you persevere you can get cancellations to get near your actual date.
@ianmason.
@ianmason. 2 ай бұрын
You don't say where "over here" is but I'll mention something that may surprise some Brits - in Northern Ireland tests are done at government centres, not contracted out to private MoT test centres as they are in the rest of the UK.
@nothingbuttruth4440
@nothingbuttruth4440 2 ай бұрын
An mot doesn’t mean a car is roadworthy even directly after the test
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 2 ай бұрын
Classic cars i.e those over 40 years old are no longer required to have an MOT, that doesn't exempt them from being safe. i once bought a car from a private seller that I found was not in a roadworthy condition. The seller refused to take the vehicle back and I asked the police to look at it to see whether it was a prosecutable offence. The actual standard that was applied was much more lax than I expected, the reason being that the bar to be qualified as a dangerous vehicle is set quite high and above what the MOT requires. I once helped a lady to change her punctured tyre and found that the tyre was seriously damaged on the inside face of the sidewall. After a bit of quizzing it transpired that she bounced up the kerb to get into her property every night to park it. The tyres were low profile and there were splits where the tyre got smashed between the rim and the kerb. She could not have seen the damage and probably wouldn't recognise it as such. I emphasised how dangerous the deflated tyre was and that she should get the others checked.
@meme2287
@meme2287 2 ай бұрын
True, but it needs to be registered as an historic vehicle with the DVLA too, which doesn't cost anything. It also needs to have road tax, but the rate for this is £0 (so you still need to tax it, but it doesn't cost anything).
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 2 ай бұрын
@@meme2287 If you own a classic car more than 40 years old you are most likely to register it as a historic vehicle to not pay road tax so once that is done you carry on as before but get charged nothing and now you don't have to MOT it. What's not to like about that?
@meme2287
@meme2287 2 ай бұрын
@@clivewilliams3661 Nothing at all! I have a 43 year-old motorbike. At first I thought I didn't need to tax it, but found out later that I do need to renew the road tax every year, but it doesn't cost anything to do so. And I don't need to do an MOT every year, although as you say, that doesn't except me from ensuring it's safe to use on the road (so no bald tyres or a non-functional brake light for example).
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 2 ай бұрын
@@meme2287 One of the reasons that the Govt decided to scrap MOTs on classics was that the testers, who had knowledge of such vehicles were getting fewer and far between and I suppose you could imagine that VOSA were getting more and more complaints about the inappropriate standards that the vehicles were being tested under. We have the same problem with competition vehicles that are used on the road, where you had to actively search out a tester with competition car experience. No classic car MOTs makes it all the more attractive for running historic competition cars that is growing at an astonishing pace.
@roberthall2945
@roberthall2945 2 ай бұрын
@@meme2287 not true your vehicle becomes mot exempt 40 years after the day it was registered. But you can’t apply for historic status until the April after the vehicle was registered. Also a vehicle can have historic status but be substantially modified requiring a MOT
@user-he5so4gz4r
@user-he5so4gz4r 2 ай бұрын
Be aware most towns in the UK that are transport hubs, ie; all roads locally pass through or around them, have their entrance and exit routes covered by discrete ANPR cameras usually 4 or 5 metres up a lamp post, if you have no tax,insurance or MOT expect a letter and fine.
@lerx5799
@lerx5799 Ай бұрын
*discreet, yes I'm that guy.
@royjennison3916
@royjennison3916 2 ай бұрын
To be honest if you dont know what your vehicle should have , and if you dont . you should not be on the road . there are to many clowns all ready on the road
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 2 ай бұрын
Incoherent babble.
@LuE87
@LuE87 2 ай бұрын
An MOT does not last for a year. The car can become unroadwortyhy for a multidude of reasons between the point of inspection and the next. I had a relatively new tyre severly worn inside not visible from the normal eye test from the outside due to missalignment and a slightly sticking caliper. MOT passed as wear still legal, yet told go straight to trye centre and change it.
@archstanton5603
@archstanton5603 2 ай бұрын
Used to drive classic cars (MoT except) but still obtained an MoT to demonstrate road-worthiness. Many friends did /do the same.
@bobmoseley4978
@bobmoseley4978 2 ай бұрын
Some 20+ years ago, I was temping with an employment agency in west London. They had some Transit vans (15 seat) which they used to take the temps to/from their place of work and I would drive one of these vehicles. These vans were leased from a firm in Kent. One of the said vehicles was returned to the leasing firm to have the steering rack replaced. About five days after the vehicle was returned, I was parking it at the rear of the premises when the front suspension collapsed as the steering rack had not been fitted correctly (and this was just after I had driven it along the A40 at around 40 mph so no idea what chaos would have been caused if it had collapsed then) So, I had no reason to suspect that this failure could or would happen. If it had, who would be liable?
@EHOinExile
@EHOinExile 2 ай бұрын
That plant's seen better days
@devilsreject320
@devilsreject320 2 ай бұрын
Over watered and not liking be that close to radiator. Possible!
@rivermoon6190
@rivermoon6190 2 ай бұрын
All this is irrelevant if you are a newly arrived boat traveller or new to this land. The number of times in the past 5 years or so I have been driving on motorways to see certain ethnicities, tootling along in the middle lane doing circa 50mph, or the youngsters of that same ethnicity undertaking at high speed and then weaving in and out off the lanes. I’m sure they think they are in Mumbai or similar! I know for fact that some of these people driving in the UK have never passed a UK driving test… and it shows.
@leexgx
@leexgx 2 ай бұрын
Cars with SRS have a directional airbag sensor so different airbags can go off depending where the impact happens or non can go off but the seat belt restrains still activates (you see smoke under seat)
@sammykovic2840
@sammykovic2840 Ай бұрын
If my car needs to be road worthy then the roads need to be car worthy....which they are not!!
@shaneord7527
@shaneord7527 2 ай бұрын
I took my 79 mini for an mot and it failed on a cv boot, repaired it took it back and it passed. It had 2 thread bare tyres on it too. In fact, I took it to a mates garage for a pre mot check, he said it would fail on 13 items (including the tyres) I did all the work anyway and never went back to that test station.
@benjones4365
@benjones4365 21 күн бұрын
What qualification does a police officer have to say a vehicule is not safe? I remember a mechanic acquaintance being stopped by the police for a routine check when checking the tyres he noticed a rubber gaiter had come off a clip, the officer said it was unfit to drive. The guy said he was a mechanic and said it was fit to drive. At this point I am sure both dug them self's into a hole, the officer gave him a ticket and told him to park it up and not to drive it. At the court, the mechanic turned up with a retired ministry mechanic to offer his opinion, after which the local judge threw the case out. The problem was the office may have been doing his job, but was not qualified to say one way or another and would have been better to use his discretion. That was back in early 1980's, so a different world, now it would have just been impounded and end of story.
@davidblackman7085
@davidblackman7085 2 ай бұрын
I always have my cars MOT done 1 month before it runs out, you get 1 month to fix any fails before your MOT runs out.
@Potatoman7
@Potatoman7 2 ай бұрын
I have been informed by an MOT tester that the old MOT becomes invalid if the new one fails to get round this book a pre-mot and if that passes then ask for the proper MOT test to be done.. at the same testing station for obvious reasons.
@Leo-om2xh
@Leo-om2xh 2 ай бұрын
Long story, but I went to the magistrates after being stopped on a hired motorbike which he police said 'uneven wear on brake pads'. Had it MOTd right after with a note from the mechanic. Still found guilty, but no points and no fine. The police were not happy. Defended myself lol.
@robd9863
@robd9863 2 ай бұрын
How on earth did a copper at the side of the road determine uneven wear on brake pads? That's ludicrous!
@Leo-om2xh
@Leo-om2xh 2 ай бұрын
@robd9863 they pulled me over for no reason, they were doing spot checks for something. I failed the 'attitude test' I suppose, and they discovered the brakes thing. Seeing them in court when I walked out with nothing was fun. 🙂
@m1cxf
@m1cxf 2 ай бұрын
And once again, guilty until proven innocent.
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse 2 ай бұрын
The first principle of UK law.
@malfunction8165
@malfunction8165 2 ай бұрын
Innocent until proven guilty, ah, those were the days.
@PeterJames-cr1ul
@PeterJames-cr1ul 21 күн бұрын
I always work on the assumption that my vehicle should pass an M.O.T. Inspection at any time. If anything is wrong get it repaired immediately.
@mrlilmatt123
@mrlilmatt123 14 күн бұрын
It really *DOESN'T* come down to 'fact' though does it?? Being 'dangerous' is quite literally subjective... As you said, their expert might believe it to be, and your defense expert might not - Therefore it is subjective and then not a 'fact' 🤔
@stevenrobinson5864
@stevenrobinson5864 2 ай бұрын
I'm sure last time I checked which was quite recently, there wasn't anything that said there was a limit on how far away the garage could be and I would be very much interested in where you get this, "the garage should be local" from? @2:00 mark.
@andrewbarnard667
@andrewbarnard667 Ай бұрын
I think it states something like nearest or within a reasonable distance. If you travel 100 miles in most places you would have passed at least a dozen mot test centres. Therefore, it wouldn't be classed as reasonable.
@neilhughes9310
@neilhughes9310 2 ай бұрын
You should have a look at the problems of trying to book an MOT test in Northern Ireland, where the process is very different.
@caparn100
@caparn100 2 ай бұрын
I had a friend that had a puncture in their work lorry. A firm came out an put a new tyre on. On the way back to the depot the wheel fell off. He was fined (his company paid the fine) and got points on his license, even though he had no way to check the if wheel was properly attached to the vehicle. After watching this I think he could have got off with Section 48.
@neuralwarp
@neuralwarp 2 ай бұрын
The inefficiency and bureaucratic officiousness of the UK govt never ceases to dismay me. They should hire STEM grads not classics nerds.
@polina_piter
@polina_piter 2 ай бұрын
But you miss the point. STEM grads can get real jobs in the private sector. Govt bureaucracy jobs are just another form of government hand outs.
@johnclutton427
@johnclutton427 2 ай бұрын
im getting fined for a car that i scrapped and the car no longer exists. i have destruction certificate and sent the v5c off to the dvla, but i am still the registered owner so i am liable to tax and insure a car that is no longer on dvla records
@plutoniumcoreuk
@plutoniumcoreuk 2 ай бұрын
I understand insurance premiums are Day Light Robbery but it is unfortunately something we have to have, Why you would drive a car without it and risk 6 points, fines and increased insurance premiums is beyond me. It isn’t just your driving you have to worry about it’s the other drivers plus the police and Ampr. It’s not worth the risk.
@davidioanhedges
@davidioanhedges 2 ай бұрын
I always get a service and an MOT at the same time, and this has highlighted to me how many things a service will pick up that are not covered by the MOT - including things that could make a car un-roadworthy, or even dangerous that would sail through an MOT, not many , but more than one ... An MOT certificate means you car was at that time capable of passing an MOT test, it does not mean it's roadworthy 1 minute later, of even it is not dangerous to drive currently - but it's probably OK ...
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse 2 ай бұрын
Tyre age is, I believe not checked at MOT; so provided that the tyres are not cracking they could be 15 years old and almost entirely useless - but still pass the MOT if sufficient tread (I have seen many classics/summer-use cars in this state!). Not something which should pass a service however.
@Batters56
@Batters56 2 ай бұрын
Follow up: What about insurance? Will your insurance be valid whilst driving without a valid MOT to a test centre? And for unsafe vehicles? Does it invalidate your insurance if you’ve had a crash and not told your insurer? And then does it follow that it should always be a double whammy? Because you get points for the unsafe car and points for not having insurance because it’s impossible for an insurance policy to be valid on the vehicle in the condition it’s being driven?
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse 2 ай бұрын
If you have a test booked and are driving to that test you are still validly insured, according to the Govt website. If you've crashed badly enought for it to be deemed unsafe then probably not a good idea to be taking it for an MOT - rather a repair first! If you have had a minor crash & not told your insurance, it is not invalidated by itself (plenty of people bump bollards/lampposts when parking, etc) - but yes if the crash made the vehicle unroadworthy the police would probably tell the insurers; which then would lead to the policy being cancelled. Nowadays they would probably then charge you with being uninsured, because why not... they would enjoy it too much not to.
@hectorsnet
@hectorsnet Ай бұрын
In my experience, the police in most situations will just give you a HORI meaning that you have to get the problem fixed and checked (within 28 days) , most likely by the same MOT station where the MOT was carried out. The only time this tends not to be the case, is when the damage is fairly severe and obvious
@WanDerer-rr8co
@WanDerer-rr8co 2 ай бұрын
Common sense to have a mechanically sound means of transport. Men and women should be able to keep their cars maintained and safe without any oversight. Especially from a thing that was fabricated or conjured even, by another living being with equal rights.
@soldierssoldier.1503
@soldierssoldier.1503 2 ай бұрын
Just a week before the car is 3 years old is plenty good enough, but with all the cameras in most towns and cities checking automatically if you're car is taxed, tested and insured get one, it's not worth the hassle.
@Interdiction
@Interdiction 8 күн бұрын
3 years on your license is too long . 12 months is more than enough . Time to change the rules
@pervazkhaliq4598
@pervazkhaliq4598 2 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for his next video where he explains the sky is above us, and the ground is below.
@Harley_the_Sosig
@Harley_the_Sosig 2 ай бұрын
Shockingly enough, the car that ploughed into my motorbike and myself at a traffic light would have failed any MOT and was driving around with the damages to the car.
@jezmadden7002
@jezmadden7002 2 ай бұрын
It used to just be a fine for no MOT, not points as well. I had a motorbike about 30 years ago and failed to notice when it got to 3 years old 🤬. Got a ticket when I went to produce my docs at the police station (no computer in the police cars then 😆). Cost me £25, which is probably same as about £100 now.
@mattwoodford1820
@mattwoodford1820 2 ай бұрын
The section about permitting someone to use has me a bit confused. Who would be liable for permitting someone to use a vehicle. Would this refer to the owner of the vehicle (or registered keeper, I'm unsure of the technical difference) or does that extend further to anyone who would reasonably know there's an issue with the vehicle?
@mymobile5014
@mymobile5014 2 ай бұрын
It has to be said that your channel is delivering absolutely free, but professional advice, and that's a great resource for people. The only problem I have is your speaking tone is almost monotone and consists of "OR (something) OR (something) OR (something) OR (something) OR (something)" which becomes tedious and monotonous to listen to, and there's no way of knowing how many 'Ors' you are going to include. You speak as if you're in court rather than trying to disseminate information to people who aren't used to courts and just want simple info. I know you'll completely ignore this, but I feel better having said it.
@davezeraschi7936
@davezeraschi7936 Ай бұрын
Can I ask you to do a video on - if you have an accident and you know it’s your fault but you shouldn’t admit liability what can or should you say if it was in fact your fault? Thank you subbed by the way great videos!
@dsd5586
@dsd5586 Ай бұрын
could you do a video covering the clause in law regarding an offence and if the driver rectifies the fault at the time if the offence they are not then commiting an offence, i had this with essex police regarding index plate not being visable, can give you further information regarding the case, also is there a way to get access to the full case details ?
@Rob-eg8qc
@Rob-eg8qc Ай бұрын
It's ludicrous the way some people misunderstand the MOT and car insurance laws, I to think they are in charge of 1000kg + lump of metal, I hope that invisible man in the clouds helps them see sense. Amen. 😅
@glynnepritchard2526
@glynnepritchard2526 2 ай бұрын
As ive always stated, the MoT is not worth the paper its written on. Should be scrapped
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. 2 ай бұрын
There isn't any paper to be written on any more, you don't get an actual printed certificate any more, you have to go online and download/print it if you want one.
@andrewbarnard667
@andrewbarnard667 Ай бұрын
Except it stops people never getting things fixed. Needs to be tougher and more often.
@caio5987
@caio5987 2 ай бұрын
Hi there I have a question that I always wondered what the correct answer is: if there is a medical emergency and instead of waiting for an ambulance I decide to drive myself to hospital (be the medical emergency with myself or another person I am driving to the hospital) am I allowed to break speed limits, etc?
@caio5987
@caio5987 2 ай бұрын
@Timmy_Westside yes
@ianmason.
@ianmason. 2 ай бұрын
No, but you're likely to be treated generously if the emergency was genuine and undertaking transport yourself necessary. You in theory have a defence of "necessity" (aka duress) to any criminal charge - it's not a card that is often played, for good reason, real necessity is a big bar to reach. In a genuine and obvious emergency if you were stopped by the police they are more likely to give you an escort than a ticket.
@robd9863
@robd9863 2 ай бұрын
I know someone who just took their car for an MOT, which it failed. This shows up on one gov website (along with all the failure reasons). But the other (main) gov website still shows it as having an MOT, expiring in about a month (the original expiry date). We've been debating, because i think he shouldn't drive it and he says it's ok to drive until the MOT expiry date, because the one government website shows it as being with an MOT. It's clear that the websites are not updating each other correctly. And i think I'm right that he shouldn't be driving it.
@numerouno2532
@numerouno2532 2 ай бұрын
If it failed on a "major" defect he can still drive it until the MOT expires. If it was a "dangerous" defect he can't drive it until it's fixed.
@andrewbarnard667
@andrewbarnard667 Ай бұрын
​@numerouno2532 it doesn't matter if its just a light out it's failed that's it the mot is no longer valid. Any vehicle should be able to pass an mot at any point in time.
@numerouno2532
@numerouno2532 Ай бұрын
@@andrewbarnard667 Best right to parliament and ask them to change the law then mate
@gamelias87
@gamelias87 2 ай бұрын
With 2 kids in the back of my car,i see advisories on my MOT i get it fixed asap,no matter the amount ££
@neuralwarp
@neuralwarp 2 ай бұрын
Oh .. YOU'RE the person who has all the ££ ?
@gamelias87
@gamelias87 2 ай бұрын
@@neuralwarp enough to take care off my kids
@davideyres955
@davideyres955 Ай бұрын
@@neuralwarpnow his mechanic is the one with all the £££ especially if he takes it to the same place that issues the mot.
@dh2032
@dh2032 2 ай бұрын
If you take none mot's car, say to a mot's test, centre? are allowed the day before, two, before, may week? So question is does, when the take car to MOT, CENTRE, as long recorded some in a MOT CENTRE, Booked in for MOT. and driven some what the right direction make there to (MOT CENTRE) and your return return direction back? ( to where ever you getting fixed ), or DIY job at your home?
@controversialrebel5639
@controversialrebel5639 2 ай бұрын
Forgive me if I am speaking out of turn, but I believe you may have have been wrong when you were giving examples of legal requirements and you mentioned airbags (circa 5 mins 20 secs into the video). As far as I am aware, there is no mandatory requirement when it comes to airbags.
@andrewbarnard667
@andrewbarnard667 Ай бұрын
If the vehicle has them, they and the warning light must work.
@bcresports
@bcresports 2 ай бұрын
I would like to know your thoughts on number plates could you possibly do a video on illegal number plates or altered number plates as they are a mot failure but i work in the accident repair industry and the amount of cars we repair displaying illegal number plates is high. How do they pass an mot and can it void your insurance in the event of an accident
@trevormegson7583
@trevormegson7583 2 ай бұрын
That was illuminating, even though I don't drive or own a vehicle.
@orrbugger
@orrbugger 2 ай бұрын
"He" implies that it is just aimed at men. so if my sister did this she'd be ok?
@ianmason.
@ianmason. 2 ай бұрын
The Interpretation Act 1978 6 Gender and number. In any Act, unless the contrary intention appears,- (a)words importing the masculine gender include the feminine; (b)words importing the feminine gender include the masculine; (c)words in the singular include the plural and words in the plural include the singular.
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. 2 ай бұрын
@@ianmason. Can't include me under the definition 'masculine', I don't have the relevant bits 😋
@neuralwarp
@neuralwarp 2 ай бұрын
Irrelevant. In English, She denotes feminine gender; He is gender neutral.
@ianmason.
@ianmason. 2 ай бұрын
@@TestGearJunkie. I'm sure it was easier when we did law in Latin and we could just use the neuter to denote 'any person'. However, there'd still be confusion between singular and plural requiring a legal convention or an _actus interpretationis_
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. 2 ай бұрын
@@neuralwarp Erm.. No.
@japfourme381
@japfourme381 29 күн бұрын
The Americans laugh at us, having to have a twelve monthly MOT!!
@salamander5703
@salamander5703 2 ай бұрын
If your car fails an MoT and you take it away for repair, apart from the roadworthiness aspect (which I guess the MoT garage will advise you on), is your insurance still valid?
@clivewiddall3430
@clivewiddall3430 2 ай бұрын
Don’t need a mot if it’s over 40 years old no road tax either. Mot’s are useless, today it needs updating to an engineer report.
@user-ky7fe1ce3p
@user-ky7fe1ce3p 2 ай бұрын
I’ve always thought the mot test is wrong in one respect. First test on car at 3 years old, a car could quite conceivably do 60,000 miles a year, so after 3 years it would have done 180,000 miles before its first mot. Whereas my did in her last car she did 1,000 miles a year her car is now 25 year old. So when my mums car is 5 years old it had done 5,000 and the other car at 2 years old had done 120,000. I ask you which car is more likely to fail a mot. Any mot tester will tell you mileage kills cars not age. I believe the mot test should be mileage related more then age related. For instant new cars should be first tests at 3 years old or 30,000 because when cars get above 30,000 parts start need to be replaced. It should be that for a car from the date of the mot lasts for a year or till the mileage goes up by 30,000 which could be 6 months. If you do less than 2,000 a year why not have mot every 2 years ? Just a thought !
@andrewbarnard667
@andrewbarnard667 Ай бұрын
When the mot was introduced. Many cars would have rust holes at 3 years old. Rust is no longer the issue it once was.
@Dadopersoblueboots
@Dadopersoblueboots 4 күн бұрын
The roads are not fit for cars
@garrycroft4215
@garrycroft4215 2 ай бұрын
Police cars do not have to have an MOT
@MattJonesGR9
@MattJonesGR9 2 ай бұрын
They use a separate system
@garrycroft4215
@garrycroft4215 2 ай бұрын
@@MattJonesGR9 no because they have their own workshops is no excuse for not having an MOT look at the dangerous state of many of them on the road. Bits of trim loose or missing, tyres you would be banned for riding on, lightbulbs out, don’t get me started on the smoke coming from the exhaust. Did you know that they also whizz the odometer before they sell them?
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. 2 ай бұрын
@@garrycroft4215 Hmmm, do you have evidence of those claims..?
@jezmadden7002
@jezmadden7002 2 ай бұрын
Most police cars are under 3 years old for a start. They rarely keep them longer due to the mileage they do. They get checked over every day before they go out & defects are fixed immediately.
@garrycroft4215
@garrycroft4215 2 ай бұрын
@@jezmadden7002 PMSL
@JackDinn
@JackDinn Ай бұрын
Just driving "involves a danger of injury to any person" so all cars are technically unfit to drive. More "prove your innocents" again.
@neuralwarp
@neuralwarp 2 ай бұрын
What happens if a garage performs an unauthorised inspection and thereby invalidates your MOT?
@coldbreeze6344
@coldbreeze6344 2 ай бұрын
Another way to remove cars of the road
@robertburrows6612
@robertburrows6612 2 ай бұрын
That has always been the law
@Johnny5Toy
@Johnny5Toy 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@user-nn8lc2bc2w
@user-nn8lc2bc2w 2 ай бұрын
Motor Ordinance Test
@ArjayMartin
@ArjayMartin 2 ай бұрын
Seatbelts not retracting is usually dirty rollers...
@Adventuresofwildcamping
@Adventuresofwildcamping 2 ай бұрын
What if the passenger seat belt is broken and you say you don't allow that seat to be used. Nobody is in danger
@andrewbarnard667
@andrewbarnard667 Ай бұрын
All forward facing seats must have a working belt. You could remove the seat.
@Sonya_Makepeace
@Sonya_Makepeace 2 ай бұрын
Thank God I sold my car. They are nothing but a worry, and a money pit.
@scal5134
@scal5134 2 ай бұрын
Daniel, can you do a blog on Tommy Robinson being arrested in Canada on an International Warrant?’ Paul Thorpe posted the arrest an hour ago…✌🏼
@davdave3470
@davdave3470 2 ай бұрын
You are unlikely to get fined the maximum fine for any offence including motoring - the clark of the court will look at your income and outgoings before setting the fine.
@Nial_Q
@Nial_Q 2 ай бұрын
So you will need to get your car inspected by mechanic after every trip because of potholes.😄
@dhdavidholloway
@dhdavidholloway 2 ай бұрын
Question. Is an electric vehicle a motor vehicle? Does the law cover electric vehicles separately?
@malfunction8165
@malfunction8165 2 ай бұрын
I wouldn't risk it you might be in for a shock and could charged if it didn't have one.
@davideyres955
@davideyres955 Ай бұрын
Yes it is a motor vehicle.
@timclough3009
@timclough3009 2 ай бұрын
Please could you outline the rules applicable to an unadopted road.
@OsellaSquadraCorse
@OsellaSquadraCorse 2 ай бұрын
From what I understand there are none. It is not a public highway - and several insurers recently refused insurance to people who lived on / accessed by unadopted roads (including fleet insurance for DHL, the Post Office, etc, leading to deliveries being refused as the drivers did not have permission to take their vehicles onto the unadopted road, as recently as 2019).
@POISONSHANK1
@POISONSHANK1 2 ай бұрын
Hey blackbelt barristers. Just wondering about the Dr Disrepect thing. Kinda want your take on it as he seems broken. I kind wanna throw your way because i don't think he deserved this. Any thoughts
@loucipher67
@loucipher67 2 ай бұрын
Does anyone else hear the theme tune from Jaws.? The guy in the garage said yes. The ahole in the bullet proof vest says no.
@user-nx8ii4ef7f
@user-nx8ii4ef7f 26 күн бұрын
Grate Britain......land of the fee!
@MrJTJINX
@MrJTJINX 3 күн бұрын
So Ulez is under scrutiny as the Car MOT covers emissions to an agreed European standard. Relying on the fact the car passes an MOT should set a precedence that the cars emissions do not exceed those allowed with the Ulez areas. Im sure the Europeans will be making that argument when this stupidity is enforced upon them, just watch the French congregate and speak loudly about their dissatisfaction in public. Clearly not a very British thing to do. The emissions test would also only valid for one day as it is part of the MOT ? Do we need to test all cars everyday, a new car could just as easily fail as an old banger. And how on this earth does ulez now include electric cars, the whole argument is based on emissions ? In regards to this video that section 40? means we are all guilty until its proved otherwise - take pothole damage for example, how many cars will be on the road with minor defects caused by hitting potholes which may only show up under close scrutiny in an MOT by a government approved testing station by a professional mechanic. We the public are not such an expert. Clearly now the ownness is on us to prove we had no knowledge of microscopic fractures, elongation, signs of deterioration from continued impact from traveling over potholes.
@stephencoleman2414
@stephencoleman2414 2 ай бұрын
Could you do a talk on potholes
@thundercatsaga6136
@thundercatsaga6136 2 ай бұрын
Maybe a 12.50 daily charge might help this no? 😂
@granddadmark7639
@granddadmark7639 2 ай бұрын
Life was so much easier in the 80's when you could get an MoT certificate by post
@malfunction8165
@malfunction8165 2 ай бұрын
I still do, but don't tell anybody.
@stephengirling7859
@stephengirling7859 Ай бұрын
IT'S ALL A MONEY MAKING SCAM!
@disturbed250
@disturbed250 2 ай бұрын
This is...common sense lol
@TestGearJunkie.
@TestGearJunkie. 2 ай бұрын
Common sense isn't all that common, sadly.
@Zebedeedoo
@Zebedeedoo 2 ай бұрын
Why conflate a valid mot with general unroadworthiness after the certifacte issuance? Pointless and irrelevant. Therefore your point is moot. Whatever that point is or was.😊 😊😊
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