I own both brands. I have owned a Royal Oak Offshore with rubber strap for several decades; it has been on some rugged fishing trips that would be totally inappropriate for the Pateks and has been relatively hassle free. I have caught some amazing fish wearing it and I like the look. On the other hand, the Pateks look great with a suit or jeans and the Pateks keep amazing time. They are little marvels of engineering and art. I am lucky in that I have been collecting most of my adult life and have been able to make some good trades and take advantage of markets where the dollar was strong vs the pound. As a result, I have owned a number of nice watches but have it distilled down to my final six: 3 Pateks, a Royal Oak Offshore, a Rolex Sub (because it was the first nice watch I owned and still looks cool to me) and a Ulysses Nardin Diver just because I liked the look, got a great deal on it in the islands and have been on some great dives wearing it. My collection is geared towards my needs. I do fishing trips in remote areas and used to go diving. As such, half of the collection is suitable for diving or very wet rough conditions. The Pateks are all leather banded dress watches totally unsuitable for my fishing trips but they serve a role the other 3 watches don’t fulfill. These final 6 watches uniquely fit my own personal needs and tastes and likely would not be in anyone else’s final collection. I understand that you can tell time as accurately, if not more, with a quartz timex for a lot cheaper -but it has been a hobby I have enjoyed for over 40 years and the watches and the craftsmanship they represent gives me the same pleasure that a sports car, painting or great guitar might give to someone else. If you enjoy this hobby (or passion) my advice is to look around, trade around (if you can find a reputable dealer) and try a variety of brands until you find the watch or watches that you know are keepers (and you will know). For me, the search for the next great watch or cool trade was a big part of the enjoyment. Once you have those special timepieces, hold on to them for dear life. They will be like old friends that remind you of the places you have seen and the old friends that have shared your adventures. Finally, they will be heirlooms that your children and grandchildren can enjoy. It is a cool hobby. I enjoy these comparison videos but can assure anyone that you would not go wrong with either an Audemars Piguet or a Patek Philippe or a number of others brands produced by great watchmakers. Hope the hobby is as much fun for you as it has been for me.
@brunovrancic83303 жыл бұрын
I saw worn AP, it lost all of its attraction, no more perfect polish-brushed transitions, PP has internal value that is forever. No contest to me.
@pumaadidas3 жыл бұрын
BW your vc overseas was a real thing of beauty I think you will regret that you sold it
@smart41413 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Bruce. A good comparison of the AP and Patek and very descriptive. Thank you to Fabian for this video. One question, the entire world has suffered due to the pandemic. People have lost jobs, small businesses have closed etc. How come then the sales of luxury watches have gone up in these turbulent times? What drives the sales?
@slimbomania13 жыл бұрын
Beside all the downturns there is also alot of people who gained capital during the pandemic...
@brianmsahin3 жыл бұрын
Definitely the Patek for me. I don't like the Royal Oak design at all.
@storck083 жыл бұрын
RO is a footballers and rapers watch.
@simonwright68823 жыл бұрын
For esthetic reasons alone personally I wouldn't give the patek a second look. You have a beautiful piece in the AP. Other people's opinions shouldn't matter its your choice.
@Moe90rules3 жыл бұрын
Definitely prefer the Patek
@thor_863 жыл бұрын
If you're at a point where you can be shopping 80k watches then you can just have both tbh😄
@time2tockpodcast8163 жыл бұрын
The fun is in the choosing though
@CraigG213 жыл бұрын
I'm more of a sport watch guy, but like Bruce said - buy what YOU want/like and the one that fits your lifestyle.
@anthonystevens86833 жыл бұрын
I love the great format Bruce and the honesty with this is an opinion not an instruction. A point of view only. It's great that a collector in the hobby can garner feedback from not only the channel but the comments as well. As for my opinion, I'd like both (I can't afford or justify both) but if I had to choose I'd keep the Royal Oak. Apart from the cost and value retention these are totally different watches so I agree it boils down to the use of the watch and maybe not quite so much the aesthetic. I hope we find out what the final decision is.
@sealevelbear2 жыл бұрын
Fabian, yes!
@stevefox86053 жыл бұрын
I just don't get GG's 70s designs, just fugly imho - I wouldn't look twice at the Patek tbh, but certainly much nicer than the AP.... For that money, no brainer it'd be an ALS or Omega Tourbillon 😉... But I'm a luddite 😂 Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
@MohammadAWaly3 жыл бұрын
Patek Philippe complication watches are the best at gaining value over long periods of time… Both are amazing pieces and parting with 15500 is a big decision… Why not a VC overseas world timer?
@jimlittle57693 жыл бұрын
I would keep the RO over the Patek, but I might go with another option. Option 3: Sell the RO and get a Lange1.
@lelimitededition42193 жыл бұрын
Don’t be crazy and don’t sell the AP, you are selling AP which will go up in price and hard to find to buy the worst Patek watch. Don’t do it, Bruce stop this guy making the mistake of his life.
@henrywest72173 жыл бұрын
I really really dig that AP! But I actually prefer that VC Overseas above the others. But there're no choices here that aren't transcendent. I couldn't make a decision without regret.
@frankmastromauro56303 жыл бұрын
Good video - looking forward to more of these
@timmanion74593 жыл бұрын
I've actually been selling more peices during the pandemic. People are still working , but from home. They're bored and have spare time and money. I've been surprised how fast I can sell a high-end luxury watch . Amazing market.
@jayblake70053 жыл бұрын
Enjoy your content Brice all very good points, Personally its the AP
@ericpignatore53173 жыл бұрын
You could not pay me to wear a Royal Oak. That and the Nautilus both look like cheap props from a bad 70s "B" scifi movie. As well as I have no idea how AP is in this mythical Holy Trinity of watch making because they are a one trick pony. They make the Royal Oak and pretty much that's it. So obviously my worthless opinion is buy the Patek.
@cfcblue83 жыл бұрын
Forget the 5711, try the 5235
@curtangle54403 жыл бұрын
These two are very different from each other in every way. If you can try to get both in your collection.
@mpikers3 жыл бұрын
Personally, I'd keep the 15500. The Patek is beautiful and arguably a "nicer" watch but it's not for me.
@Ohmie2 жыл бұрын
That Patek is other-worldly. Awesome swap.
@TheMuffinator3 жыл бұрын
I don't like either watch personally, but if I had to choose between the two, I would go with the AP. That particular PP doesn't look great to me. Too busy of a dial.
@matlindell50223 жыл бұрын
It’s a no brainer ,keep the AP!!!
@blueshirtbuddah16653 жыл бұрын
Great video Bruce.
@JamesandRibble3 жыл бұрын
First. JLC of course.
@Marco-ey3ob3 жыл бұрын
I prefer a little bit more the Audemars…. But the Patek is wonderfull🤤
@majix1234 ай бұрын
PP ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
@shadimagdy81963 жыл бұрын
I would keep the AP but man this patek is awesome! Grand comp that he can get at a steal at the pre owned market!
@luxman94633 жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch your videos I always think of Edward Grimley I must say.
@EddyTeetree2 жыл бұрын
As if someone making that decision had to ask your opinion 👀 Thats called a wind up!
@BruceWilliams2 жыл бұрын
You would be surprised at how many people ask me these types of questions
@Giovan_Nino3 жыл бұрын
What a dilemma, heads you win, tails you win..Although I would also check out other Pateks..take your time..
@volcanobro84433 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Patek in this scenario, I hate the blank space on the lower half of the 15500
@dylantkl3 жыл бұрын
I would pick Patek. Just feel better. I mean I like the AP too
@excelerater3 жыл бұрын
AP is the shit
@theenavybluemonster3 жыл бұрын
Of the 2 choices, I’d keep the AP. World timers are cool but I’d never want one.
@jodysilvia23 жыл бұрын
What watch did you wear on your rafting trip?
@BruceWilliams3 жыл бұрын
Titanium camo GShock
@jodysilvia23 жыл бұрын
@@BruceWilliams nice
@robboyer64483 жыл бұрын
I’d flip it for the Patek any day of the week
@romank41323 жыл бұрын
AP is a versatile watch - any occasion. This Patek is only for office wear and looks same as million other classic dress watches over there. Add this Patek, may be later. Thanks
@dannyg65923 жыл бұрын
I prefer Patek to AP. Always have. I'm not a fan of the Royal Oak. I love the Patek complications, craftsmanship and design. If I won the lottery, I'd buy a six figure Patek.
@elboogy3 жыл бұрын
I would flip it for Any of the 57xx pateks, just not that one.
@ocb053 жыл бұрын
Brand wise i would go for Patek Calatrava instead of world timer. But yeah, no feelings for AP.
@billcore62953 жыл бұрын
Bruce, do a comparison of 2 affordable options of these extremely highend grail watches.... compare the FC Highlife and ML Aikon..... this would be attainable! I agree these are 2 grail watches....I would choose the AP RO over patek. Agree us collectors only need to answer to ourselves...no one else.
@clausborg773 жыл бұрын
I like better your G-Shock, these ultra expensive watches are too delicate for me, so many amazing watches for less and I´d rather go for a Rolex Yachmaster white gold 42. But between AP & PP no questions about it PP of course!
@sadaka2013 жыл бұрын
I'd keep the AP and invest some money otherwise...
@seanp78713 жыл бұрын
AP
@pumaadidas3 жыл бұрын
1st PP 2nd VC Distant 3rd AP Even more way down 4th Rolex Not much further down 5th Omega This excludes niche brands ie fp,rm
@alectang16143 жыл бұрын
This ranking is based on what though?
@pumaadidas3 жыл бұрын
@@alectang1614 most highly prestigious & quality of finish recognised watch brands in the world exc niche brands Not unit sales either
@alectang16143 жыл бұрын
@@pumaadidas if it's recognition then Rolex is number 1 and omega would probably be top 5. If it's other qualities you mentioned then Rolex and Omega don't even make the top 10.
@NicholasSadlier3 жыл бұрын
I'd be worried about either of these watches being passed down to the next generation, unless they can seriously appreciate what they are getting and are also watch nuts.... as opposed to a Porsche for example which will kind of speak for itself in any language lol.
@chia-mingyang58043 жыл бұрын
Though I am not a huge fan of this 15500, I definitely won't change to 5930.
@YongJoonPaek3 жыл бұрын
That patek is my grail!
@glennpowell34443 жыл бұрын
Even if I had the cash and was prepared to spend it on that Patek I would dread the day it started playing up.The service costs must be eye watering?
@glennpowell34443 жыл бұрын
@@SnazzySki98 As you say its all relative . If you buy a Lamborghini you can't expect running costs to be " usual". Both beautiful if you have the cash and want to spend it that way.Thanks.
@kd12183 жыл бұрын
AP for sure
@felipec21573 жыл бұрын
Don’t get twisted we all know Patek is the (Jefe)😎
@alexsierra13313 жыл бұрын
I love Patek but I’ll keep the AP, the Patek you can buy it anytime and probably for less money in the future, the AP can keep going up in price …
@GustapoGomez3 жыл бұрын
Above your status quo. Will look weird on you. Stay with Rolex. You're moving too fast.