This Persona 5 scene was supposed to be even WORSE

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The Persona 5 scene were everyone hits Ryuji was supposed to be even WORSE.
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@FazPersona
@FazPersona 2 жыл бұрын
While modding this scene to make it better, DeathChaos25 found the unused audio and animations. If you want to see a better version of this scene where they don’t beat up Ryuji, check it out here! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bs6Dh8KUxNnZmqc.html
@sheepersouls9898
@sheepersouls9898 Жыл бұрын
I mean hey, he kept them waiting, but that was a bit too much o.o
@KonohanaSakyuka
@KonohanaSakyuka Жыл бұрын
This is taking The Boy Who Cried Wolf to a whole 'nother level. I can't believe they're still friends after all that.
@alsohedge6537
@alsohedge6537 2 жыл бұрын
What’s even crazier is MORGANA IS THE ONLY ONE WHOS NORMAL ABOUT IT
@damthatssick
@damthatssick 2 жыл бұрын
And Mona dislikes Ryuji the most. The only good thing I think about this is that it shows that Mona and Ryuji bonded after gradeschool Okumura arc.
@Knapperoni
@Knapperoni 2 жыл бұрын
This cutscene is so off it made him break character lol
@thomasfairburn5254
@thomasfairburn5254 2 жыл бұрын
@@damthatssick Dislike is a strong word. They don't hate each other. They rub each other the wrong way because of their personalities clashing.
@plinfan6541
@plinfan6541 2 жыл бұрын
You know things have gone to wacko town when Morgana, of all people, is taking sense.
@arjostarudo9406
@arjostarudo9406 2 жыл бұрын
Even MC didn't care about him. And i suppose to represent that guy? Sorry but hell fricking no! Because if i ever could a chance, i would hug to Ryuji and thank to him for million times for allowing to live my life with risking his own.
@tryinglyon
@tryinglyon 2 жыл бұрын
I find it ironic how Morgana, the one party member Ryuji had the most beef with, is like "Uh guys this isn't really cool". Crazy how he was the only one in character in that entire scene.
@benhiden1797
@benhiden1797 2 жыл бұрын
Yea weird. It’s almost like it’s a joke
@woodflink1867
@woodflink1867 2 жыл бұрын
@@benhiden1797 shit joke
@drasconboy6349
@drasconboy6349 2 жыл бұрын
Jokes are supposed to be funny though
@benhiden1797
@benhiden1797 2 жыл бұрын
@@drasconboy6349 you’ve never watched an Amy Schumer Netflix special
@drasconboy6349
@drasconboy6349 2 жыл бұрын
@@benhiden1797 And I pride myself on not doing so
@Khamiru
@Khamiru 2 жыл бұрын
Ryuji nearly died proving himself to be the MVP of Shido’s Palace by getting the whole TEAM to safety and THIS is the thanks he gets?
@thomasfairburn5254
@thomasfairburn5254 2 жыл бұрын
He would have gotten it if he didn't shoot himself in the foot by trying to make light of what happened.
@madamehypnos9807
@madamehypnos9807 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfairburn5254 Ummmm he's a victim of ABUSE. No one has ever taken that seriously to the point where downplays his own pain to make sure the others are okay as we've seen many times.
@thomasfairburn5254
@thomasfairburn5254 2 жыл бұрын
@@madamehypnos9807 Ryuji wasn't downplaying his pain to make the others feel better. If he wanted to make sure the others were ok, he'd have asked straight up and at the very least could've had tact to apologise for worrying them. Dude made fun of the girls for worrying about him as if it was some joke that he made them feel that way. There's a tonal difference between actual abuse Ryuji suffers from the likes of his father and Kamoshida that's played for drama vs comedic misfortune and slapstick Ryuji brings upon himself. In which case this scene Ryuji brought it upon himself.
@madamehypnos9807
@madamehypnos9807 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfairburn5254 Yeeeeaaahh okay. No matter how you much you say otherwise, they would not be alive if not for Ryuji. Plus the females get away with waaaaay more shit then the guys do and it's honestly sad. If they are mad about how he reacted they they could at most just yell at him. Not jump him when he still trying to recover his broken leg. That's the truth.
@jeremybaker7963
@jeremybaker7963 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfairburn5254 ps ryuji didn't shoot himself in the foot you are dumb there's is no mention of ryuji shooting himself in the foot you are a fool to say that
@lewis2705
@lewis2705 2 жыл бұрын
i don’t even get why they would attack him, like shouldn’t they just hug him?? he nearly DIED
@SuperDanMan11100
@SuperDanMan11100 2 жыл бұрын
I don't like this scene either. I can kind of get Ann slapping Ryuji for making her worry and him making fun of her, but the fact that all of the girls beat him up, the guys let it happen, and no body goes back to check up on him is ridiculous. Especially, if th scene was supposed to be worse.
@treyhill1773
@treyhill1773 2 жыл бұрын
@@SuperDanMan11100 I agree to. The scene should of just been Ann slapping Ryuji and everyone walks home. But they really tried to kill him.
@avendurree
@avendurree 2 жыл бұрын
@@treyhill1773 You'd think they would be tired after the fight, but nah, lets make an unfunny scene
@jspeedstar1129
@jspeedstar1129 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna totally use that idea to fix this scene but also all of them cry happily that he's actually ALIVE
@fukopi
@fukopi 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like this scene
@VXMasterson
@VXMasterson 2 жыл бұрын
Atlus: “let’s make our physical abuse survivor get beat up by his friends, it’ll be funny” Whyyy
@flowersandcheesecake1710
@flowersandcheesecake1710 2 жыл бұрын
And also a game franchise that prioritize friendships or good bonds as a really important thing Altus really holding the idiot ball in this moment
@tomotomato
@tomotomato 2 жыл бұрын
God thinking about that makes this even more awful
@jimmy2dumb105
@jimmy2dumb105 2 жыл бұрын
My dude got assaulted for not dying, bruh.
@DarthJoshReturns
@DarthJoshReturns 2 жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time Max Mittleman played an abuse survivor who gets subjected to slapstick, I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot of money, but it's still weird that it happened twice.
@sdbzfan1
@sdbzfan1 2 жыл бұрын
@@DarthJoshReturns who is the other
@owain1077
@owain1077 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely don’t know what they were thinking with this scene
@KVoinre
@KVoinre 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes, abusing a teammate who sacrificed his life
@adachivineboom
@adachivineboom 2 жыл бұрын
bold of you to assume they were thinking.
@thomasfairburn5254
@thomasfairburn5254 2 жыл бұрын
Simple. The gag is that Ryuji did something cool, only to ruin his five minutes of fame in typical Ryuji fashion to go back to the status quo of being uncool compared to Joker. Ryuji's dumb remark there is insensitive by Japan's standards, the reaction is slapstick.
@KVoinre
@KVoinre 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfairburn5254 your point of 'cooler than joker' is so true it literally pains me. I was excited for characters like ann, Yusuke and Ryuji when we first met them but they all completely threw away the character growth they had in their arcs to become vapid comedy relief. that's one of the reasons I think akechi and sumire are so beloved- they seem like normal (ish) humans compared to the rest of the phantom thieves
@thomasfairburn5254
@thomasfairburn5254 2 жыл бұрын
@@KVoinre I wouldn't go that far and say their growth is thrown away. There is growth from them if you know where to look and I'm not talking confidants.
@ExiletheJedi
@ExiletheJedi 2 жыл бұрын
With friends like these who needs Shido?
@lowhp_comic
@lowhp_comic 2 жыл бұрын
The phantom thieves become the new Shido and Ryuji has to stop them all by himself
@goroakechi6126
@goroakechi6126 2 жыл бұрын
Oh SHIT NOT AGAIN-
@johngreen8921
@johngreen8921 Жыл бұрын
@@lowhp_comic I would play the shit out of that game
@theilluminatibenefactor
@theilluminatibenefactor Жыл бұрын
@@lowhp_comic I swear, in an alternate reality, there's a sequel to Persona 5 where Ryuji becomes the main protagonist and he basically fights the rest of the Phantom Thieves as Skull, unless he changes his name because that's how it usually goes.
@manupm9161
@manupm9161 6 ай бұрын
It's crazy how ally Akechi treats Ryuji better than most of the phantom thieves in this scene
@animebro14
@animebro14 2 жыл бұрын
How did my boi not become a palace ruler after the way everyone treats him amazes me
@FoenyxFeather
@FoenyxFeather Жыл бұрын
He's too good for them, tbr.
@egbertmilton4003
@egbertmilton4003 Жыл бұрын
@@easygamer4260 Maruki: Are you sure about that?!
@kingcamelot1395
@kingcamelot1395 Жыл бұрын
@@egbertmilton4003 Maruki was a special case. His Stan- er, Persona had the power to literally rewrite reality to fit his every whim.
@mightiesthacker
@mightiesthacker Жыл бұрын
@@kingcamelot1395 It might be because his Palace predates his Persona.
@SolidSnakeFromMetalGear
@SolidSnakeFromMetalGear 3 ай бұрын
​@mightiesthacker so does futaba's?
@DaakkuuYRS
@DaakkuuYRS 2 жыл бұрын
Ryuji is sadly the punching bag of P5. To the point that on the Japanese cover of P5 Strikers, everyone got cool pose while only Ryuji is punched by shadow. The western release felt so bad for him, and it was changed for the cover of western release.
@KonaKonaKaabisteru
@KonaKonaKaabisteru 2 жыл бұрын
He actually just got very lucky in that circumstance as that was mainly done to tone down the depicted violence on the cover under Western ESRB rating system.
@AnInkStick
@AnInkStick Жыл бұрын
@cartoonistlouis773 because Ann is a bitch…
@sidneyrobinson18
@sidneyrobinson18 10 ай бұрын
I kinda hate stuff like rhat in general. I often really like the "punching bag" characters and always get happy whenever they get cool scenes and root for more so it sucks either seeing them never get anything cool or just get shit on constantly
@2bdaqueen268
@2bdaqueen268 6 ай бұрын
What sucks is that the fans in japan voted for him to get punched on the cover, they just really don’t like Ryuji for some reason
@unknownmxn7683
@unknownmxn7683 6 ай бұрын
​@@2bdaqueen268apparently in Japan people like ryuji aren't actually seen in a good light, you know the deliquent outlook and personality, the bleach hair, all that in japan are seen as people that have long since been considered a lost cost to japanese society
@twistedflurry6675
@twistedflurry6675 2 жыл бұрын
0:15 This was exactly how I felt when I first saw this scene.
@Grimnoire
@Grimnoire 2 жыл бұрын
Its terrifying...
@BlackHero20
@BlackHero20 2 жыл бұрын
And you know they were trying to make you laugh as well. because I doubt they were trying to make you genuinely believe everyone was so mad at Ryuji almost dying they left him to die on the streets unconscious.
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Жыл бұрын
it was hilarious, snowflake
@kontoui
@kontoui Жыл бұрын
@@mihaimercenarul7467 Hitting the MVP that literally saved everyone in the crew is funny? Alrighty 😐
@bitesthedust1932
@bitesthedust1932 Жыл бұрын
@@kontoui he wants to be different
@clashguru9097
@clashguru9097 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, This makes the scene even worse then the original. Man almost got blown up trying to save them and ALL of them decided to jump in and beat him. At least in the final one, Ren and Yusuke didn’t say or do anything.
@bebitacaramet697
@bebitacaramet697 2 жыл бұрын
I know, right?
@cyschan
@cyschan 2 жыл бұрын
atleast the bros decided to be real ones
@nocebo5792
@nocebo5792 2 жыл бұрын
This and every hot springs scene (except maybe P3 where it at least gave you a chance to avoid being slapped for no good reason) are the most immersion breaking moments in Persona series. Do Japanese people really find that shit funny? Because I can't think of a single streamer or person who would enjoy and/or find funny Ryuji beatdown & hot springs scenes. Saddest part is the psychopath asshole with daddy issues who is responsible for 2 of phantom thieves parents deaths & giving Shido power & help to become the Villain (and to make it worse shows no signs of remorse) gets more sympathy, respect & understanding from PT than genuinely good (even if not too bright) guy who was willing to risk his life to save his friends. And no, Akechi didn't sacrifice shit, he was already dying so it was his first good deed in live to possibly save PT. For anyone waiting for P6 I highly recommend playing 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim. This is newest game by Atlus that had no marketing at all but has the best plot in all gaming (or rather in all entertainment) + so much interesting stuff (13 main characters is not the weirdest part) & characters that it's crime how underrated it is. I mean if you would tell me that one game will have plot that is Steins Gate + AoT + Matrix + Mecha shows + lot other stuff all put together that not only works but makes perfect sense I wouldn't believe it but it actually is that. Think Persona but with more realistic characters & actually great plot + better fighting mechanics. @Faz did you check out 13 Sentinels and if, is there some cut content/stuff out of it that you would want to make videos about?
@mageyplss
@mageyplss 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly though it just makes them look like they really don't care about Ryuji. At least the others actually cried over thinking he was dead.
@mageyplss
@mageyplss 2 жыл бұрын
@@nocebo5792 Just roasting the Persona franchise in two paragraphs lol
@masteroffakesmiles9476
@masteroffakesmiles9476 2 жыл бұрын
1:40 Even MORGANA thought that this was unnecessary, and this is from the same guy that shits on Ryuji on the daily.
@Mufflin
@Mufflin 2 жыл бұрын
This def would've been the perfect chance for Mona to be the one to stand up for him. Honestly could've saved the scene imo.
@streetdude9664
@streetdude9664 2 жыл бұрын
huh, Morgana would get kicked like he did around haru france
@Mufflin
@Mufflin 2 жыл бұрын
@@streetdude9664 Your mistaking the community's view of Mona with the Phantom thieves's.
@100Darkspine
@100Darkspine 2 жыл бұрын
It would have made the scene a lot better, but everybody else would feel too meanspirited while Morgana would be unusually emapthetic. It would be a nice chance though
@scrapox217
@scrapox217 Жыл бұрын
Well this is a "comedic" scene so that would require the writers to be self aware enough to notice that what they are writing is fucked up and actually quite heavy.
@noakinn
@noakinn Жыл бұрын
@@100Darkspine i do feel like it would be a nice moment for morgana, brcause despite them being antagonistic to each other, they are actually good friends who stick up for eachother
@ogbeastbroly6681
@ogbeastbroly6681 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf bro "I wonder what ryuji will look like in death" and "I'll be sure to pick up your bones" they straight up turned into villians someday at Atlas really hates the homie Ryuji. Out of all the cut content I'm glad they cut this out though i wish they just rewrote this whole scene. The rest of the PT were just so brutal for no reason. smh it be your own friends sometimes
@Freddyfazbendy5901
@Freddyfazbendy5901 2 жыл бұрын
If I was a phantom thief, I would actually kill ryuji
@thegreatheisenburger5656
@thegreatheisenburger5656 9 ай бұрын
Ryuji really gotta get outta there
@santaisntblind2073
@santaisntblind2073 Жыл бұрын
I like how akechi, the guy who ruined two of the phantom thieve's lived, killed haru's father, and was the cause of the shutdowns gains all the sympathy from the phantom thieves, but when ryuji sacrifices his life, he gets beaten... This scene is disturbing
@allhailzememes5872
@allhailzememes5872 11 ай бұрын
I fucking know, it pisses me off
@quack-tastictictac1630
@quack-tastictictac1630 11 ай бұрын
Granted, some fans also excuse Akechi’s actions for some reason Ryuji: A loud, kinda dumb, but caring guy who literally saves his friends lives from a sinking ship and almost dies from doing so Phantom Thieves: *Beats the shit out of him* Akechi: Is a literal hitman who destroyed the lives and families of multiple people and Phantom Thieves members, literally tried killing them Phantom Thieves: Yeah, we can let this one slide. He has a sad backstory, why shouldn’t we sympathize with him? Fans: He’s sad and hot, of course we can forgive him. Let’s give him a boyfriend for some godamn reason, because imagining him in a romantic relationship with the guy he shot in the head TOTALLY outweighs his crimes in our eyes.
@baronetibuki8282
@baronetibuki8282 9 ай бұрын
On... Fucking... God.... That is literally exactly what I was thinking about these 2 as scenes when I watched them. Murderer and delusional 👍 great teammate who literally saves the entire squad and almost sacrifices self for team 👎 Makes no fucking sense.
@just1randomguy658
@just1randomguy658 Ай бұрын
​@@quack-tastictictac1630 OH MY GOD, THANK YOU! FUCKING THANK YOU! Finally, someone who actually thinks about this realistically and understands that no one in their right mind would want anything to do with someone tried to *ASSASSINATE THEM* . Someone who SMILED right before they killed them. I don't care if you like enemies to lovers, IT DOESN'T ALWAYS MAKE SENSE! Thank you so much for being rational. Genuinely. Thank you.
@turbulentbreak
@turbulentbreak 2 жыл бұрын
Where was this hostile treatment when Akechi was in their group? If anyone deserves getting their shit kicked in, it's Akechi.
@sokkerfreak
@sokkerfreak 2 жыл бұрын
Na, not even him considering all the things he went through
@herogamer0457
@herogamer0457 2 жыл бұрын
@@sokkerfreak I mean he isn't wrong
@DarthJoshReturns
@DarthJoshReturns 2 жыл бұрын
They already fought him and beat him to a tar. When I got to him in Royal, I even finished him off with Haru and Makoto's wrestling tag team move.
@noro329
@noro329 2 жыл бұрын
@@sokkerfreak I disagree People always give him the benefit of the doubt cause he’s “tragic” or whatever but remember both Futaba’s mother and Haru’s father got killed by him and that’s not counting the dozens of people he has killed in the train incident In my opinion he was too much of a martyr in the game but at the very least he got a proper death
@GlitchyPixExtra
@GlitchyPixExtra 2 жыл бұрын
@@noro329 No one actually died during the train incident, flavour text revealed that there were injuries but no casualties occurred
@theghostofjeffgoldblumdail9613
@theghostofjeffgoldblumdail9613 2 жыл бұрын
Yusuke said it best, “this isn’t funny at all.” When will Atlus learn that seeing the female characters we like act completely irrational and physically abuse the male characters we like isn’t funny, it’s just annoying.
@JoelPerry1
@JoelPerry1 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is, this was voted as one of the funniest scenes in Japan. It's a cultural thing I guess.
@michaelbarrett8141
@michaelbarrett8141 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoelPerry1 i will never get why this would be funny especially in a more heavy and mature story. Because there is nothing mature and heavy in this scene after all. Why they do they need to ruin a Mature scene who is serious with that shit wo easily get you in jail.
@JoelPerry1
@JoelPerry1 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelbarrett8141 If I had to guess shock comedy? The sudden switch from sad to "funny"? I dunno I ain't Japanese. But the game is made for Japanese people and they clearly enjoy it, so I wouldn't expect this type of scene to go anywhere.
@MitsurugiR
@MitsurugiR 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a reason this scene was cut, bozo
@JoelPerry1
@JoelPerry1 2 жыл бұрын
@@MitsurugiR some dialog was cut but the scene remains.
@dragonkyn20
@dragonkyn20 2 жыл бұрын
They could've easily just had the group tackle Ryuji in relief that he survived. But nope, Atlus just went for the "Let's beat the shit out of this guy for making us worry" shtick.
@Nicodemus.26
@Nicodemus.26 2 жыл бұрын
Ryuji: "If I knew that everyone would punch me after I risked my life, I would have let you guys die"
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 2 жыл бұрын
Either they should have just let him be killed off or make him the traitor which would have made a pretty dark but valuable lesson on the consequence of how one treats their friends.
@aarondx3764
@aarondx3764 2 жыл бұрын
1:40 Futaba: "This one's for Mona!" Morgana" Wait I don't really-" I'm sorry but this cracked me up. You know you fucked up when even Morgana doesn't take a chance to shit on Ryuji.
@mucrow4400
@mucrow4400 2 жыл бұрын
first time morgana felt bad for ryuji lmao
@streetdude9664
@streetdude9664 2 жыл бұрын
I loved that, but not with ryuji
@SoundwaveSC
@SoundwaveSC 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that cracked me the fuck up
@KazeShikamaru
@KazeShikamaru 2 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I can say for Futaba is at least she mentions wanting to apologise to him in the Thieves Den.
@Yu_san354
@Yu_san354 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone: OH NO RYUJI DIED IM SO SAD Ryuji: hey guys im alive Everyone: *BITCH*
@DLxxx
@DLxxx 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, he was REALLY tactless and rude about it, lol. They were all extremely broken up about it, and it was not something to joke about. Does it justify what came next? No. But at the very least their anger makes sense.
@CopySigma
@CopySigma 2 жыл бұрын
Ryuji : I'm alive Everyone: so you've chosen death .
@user-wm9ee7lh3l
@user-wm9ee7lh3l 2 жыл бұрын
@@DLxxx Ann’s slap was slightly justified and that’s all. Ryuji didn’t even know what they were crying about. You can say anything about this situation, but it’s definitely not Ryuji’s fault
@Freddyfazbendy5901
@Freddyfazbendy5901 2 жыл бұрын
If i was definitely a member of the Phantom thieves, ryuji would actually be dead, as in not alive (because I strangled him to death)
@piggytalesremastererDADDY
@piggytalesremastererDADDY Жыл бұрын
@@DLxxx Persona 4 Handled it a Heck ton better, with Teddie's return and all, rise scolding Teddie for disappearing for so long calling him bad bear and all, but all the while still hugging him and super relieved that he's okay
@kusaba7770
@kusaba7770 Жыл бұрын
Futaba was just fucking SOBBING at the loss of this man and instantly is like “lol let’s kill him”
@zegal2253
@zegal2253 2 жыл бұрын
Ryuji: **almost fucking dies** Joker: You're awful, Ryuji
@berrylicious108
@berrylicious108 2 жыл бұрын
This is so violent and kinda dark that it looks like it's from a creepypasta lmao
@alatsus
@alatsus 2 жыл бұрын
i wish that they changed this scene in royal to everyone hugging ryuji. i think it would've been a really sweet and memorable moment for everybody
@alatsus
@alatsus 2 жыл бұрын
and it would've been actually in CHARACTER
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 Жыл бұрын
@@alatsus Hugging in Japan is considered a very intimate act reserved for couples.
@kingcamelot1395
@kingcamelot1395 Жыл бұрын
@@davidtimmer596 Wait, you don't hug the homies in Japan?
@ShadowEclipse777
@ShadowEclipse777 Жыл бұрын
Yeah you gotta suck their dick instead
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 Жыл бұрын
@@kingcamelot1395 Nope.
@ningen_shikakuu
@ningen_shikakuu 2 жыл бұрын
Man ryuji didnt deserve that. Im glad it wasnt included. Ryuji deserved a hug
@Hewasnumber1
@Hewasnumber1 Жыл бұрын
Specifically a hug from Joker.
@Benjawin6671
@Benjawin6671 Жыл бұрын
I wish this whole scene was cut...
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 Жыл бұрын
In Japan, hugging is considered an intimate act.
@sonicboom126
@sonicboom126 2 жыл бұрын
Despite all this, Ryuji's the A real man for taking this verbal and physical abuse plus the past experience. But despite having every right to complain about being treated like the absolute common comedic UNLIKE A CERTAIN FLEABAG, he doesn't. You're the real one Ryuji. You really are. Screw what they say.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 2 жыл бұрын
If Persona 5 had Persona 2’s darker storytelling, Ryuji could have easily become a traitor through all of that and they’d only have themselves to blame for it.
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Жыл бұрын
cope harder snowflake, harder little baby boo
@sonicboom126
@sonicboom126 Жыл бұрын
@@mihaimercenarul7467 This was 6 months ago. Telling me to "cope" now is an r tard move.
@Joaquin-xq5wo
@Joaquin-xq5wo 2 жыл бұрын
for people who don't get it, my explanation is that it's just Japanese type of crude humor. look to naruto to when Sakura hits him or any pervert type character like master roshi. Or even the other persona games with their anime tropes (hot spring scenes). This one was just another example of that, more slapstick type thing but with Ryuji's context as a abuse victim this scene stands out especially badly.
2 жыл бұрын
I might want to move to Japan but I will never understand their humor.
@user-ne2mt7zi7e
@user-ne2mt7zi7e 2 жыл бұрын
Ryuji: is this... my time to shine??? I... I WILL SAVE YOU GUYS! *saves his friends* Ryuji: holy shit, am i really alive? God, i am so glad you guys are... Ann: *slaps Ryuji* Ryuji: OH WHAT THE HELL??? YOU PEOPLE NEARLY DIED! WHY WOULD YOU HIT ME ALL OF A SUDDEN? Ann: because you are a comedic relief, Ryuji! You have no right being treated like a normal human beign! Ryuji: i want to persona 3 myself...
@joaolima7131
@joaolima7131 2 жыл бұрын
There was a Survey in Japan and Ryuji is one of the characters people most deslike
@roamingtheinternet8652
@roamingtheinternet8652 2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately Naruto turns out perfectly fine after Sakura hits him, especially after being pervy or doing something really stupid that deserves it. This cut scene however, is really messed up and there was absolutely NO REASON for them to jump him.
@user-ne2mt7zi7e
@user-ne2mt7zi7e 2 жыл бұрын
@@joaolima7131 holy shit. Dude. C'mere for a sec. Just... just fucking imagine yourself created specificaly for being a laughing stock and the most disliked character by the fucking target audience (Japan). Yeah, yeah, i know, like, Ryuji can be loud and too expressive, but holy shit these people, who made him just to be worst fucking protagonist also made him save their friends from fucking demise! And on top of that he helped elderly woman to carry her bag! And he cares about his mother! Like, why the fuck he had to become a typical comic relief where everyone hates him??? Just answer me, don't you think that he is just deserves a little better than that? Why do people have to be so harsh on him? Isn't persona 5 about throwing off your mask and accepting the real self and real others? Like, THIS IS A BIG FAT LIKE PERSONA 5 WRITERS MOM CONTRADICTION OVER HERE! Or maybe people are just fucking shit for brains.
@aarondx3764
@aarondx3764 2 жыл бұрын
That ammout character assinations that would'be performed in thsi scene is truly astounding, it would rival the ammount of assinations Akechi pulled.
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Жыл бұрын
it was just a funny scene, you are too emotionally hurt, snowflake
@Hewasnumber1
@Hewasnumber1 Жыл бұрын
You don’t do english very well, do you?
@aarondx3764
@aarondx3764 Жыл бұрын
@@Hewasnumber1 I must've been in a rush lol.
@dgcfgvvgb6555
@dgcfgvvgb6555 5 ай бұрын
​@@aarondx3764nah it makes sense, just a few words spelt a bit off in your haste. The other guy is just being mean for no real reason
@zenix6467
@zenix6467 2 жыл бұрын
*Ryuji comes back after nearly dying* Phantom Thieves: LETS KILL HIM *Akechi, the guy who literally ruined two people’s lives in the phantom thieves and nearly killed their leader comes back to life* Phantom Thieves: *Does nothing even when they’re all a few feet away from him*
@plinfan6541
@plinfan6541 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair Akechi literly goes through the third semester expecting to drop dead after beating Maruki, so I don't think he would really care if the Phantom Thiefs took revenge on him.
@lowhp_comic
@lowhp_comic 2 жыл бұрын
@@plinfan6541 I think the point is the PTs won't lay their hands on an ex-enemy/traitor who has actively tried to kill them and killed those through mental shutdowns, but the loyal friend who risked his Life to save them all gets the shit kicked out of him fnr
@user-vw9zw2xq1v
@user-vw9zw2xq1v 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, except, they ALREADY had a boss fight with him.
@WarmLillie
@WarmLillie 2 жыл бұрын
This is pretty mean, instead of being happy that he’s alive they thought let’s kill him now actually for real.
@SuperDanMan11100
@SuperDanMan11100 2 жыл бұрын
It's odd seeing you respond while out of character, but you are right about the scene.
@mageyplss
@mageyplss 2 жыл бұрын
Lol imagine if they actually did it because he cheated death or something and if they don't kill him it'll start a Final Destination movie
@Tenebrio-Morio
@Tenebrio-Morio 2 жыл бұрын
"How Dare you make us have emotions!"
@PhantomAkira5
@PhantomAkira5 2 жыл бұрын
Facts
@snowy_gateaway7583
@snowy_gateaway7583 2 жыл бұрын
For real?!
@haruokumura4271
@haruokumura4271 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how I was just talking about this scene last night and how they kinda did the exact same thing with Morgana at the end of the game (except they didn't assault him) but what made the Mona scene genuinely funny was that he didn't show up sooner because he thought it'd be awkward
@Monorakun
@Monorakun 2 жыл бұрын
If he saw how Ryuji was recieved by them like this, then no wonder why he waited up to show up. Fucking yikes, bro.
@lowhp_comic
@lowhp_comic 2 жыл бұрын
@@Monorakun they all start kicking the cat in the middle of the streets
@treyhill1773
@treyhill1773 2 жыл бұрын
Im glad they removed this part. Cause why would you punish him even more just for surviving Shido’s palace. Atleast he ins’t Akechi.
@unknowed5048
@unknowed5048 4 ай бұрын
The only thing Ryuji could be faulted for is being insensitive for not realizing how worried they are.
@poodoodrilldick7757
@poodoodrilldick7757 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how awful this scene was going to be, and even still cut people still think its the worst moment in p5 Kinda makes you think that maybe maybe they should of cutted the whole scene than a little.
@thomasfairburn5254
@thomasfairburn5254 2 жыл бұрын
Nah, unpopular opinion what we got in the end is fine as is. The gag lands for me in that Ryuji fucked up his five minutes of fame is hilarious as he goes back to the dog house cause he ruined it by opening his mouth.
@poodoodrilldick7757
@poodoodrilldick7757 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfairburn5254 Eh, I can see it like that. Honestly in execution it felt like a simple slap would of just been it, but it just seems in poor taste and loses that feeling seeing him unconcious on the street left alone after saving everyone.
@thomasfairburn5254
@thomasfairburn5254 2 жыл бұрын
@@poodoodrilldick7757 I don't think so. I can't take it seriously of him being knocked out unconscious when the slapstick fades to black plus Ryuji sprawled out in an exaggerated pose. Also they aren't in a dangerous place like Shinjuku. Fact that Ryuji made it back home without incident shows he likely wasn't in the streets for long.
@poodoodrilldick7757
@poodoodrilldick7757 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfairburn5254 Well in that case thats pretty fair, it was more so the left-field for such a level of slapstick to feel unautural. Plus I think a lot of people were upset thinking he almost died to have such a slapstick-heavy scene maybe just make it come across as tone deaf. But then again I can totally see the joke approach. Ryuji tries to be a hero, comes back and ruins his spotlight. Though I felt like the little slap he gets would of been enough but then again- I can appreciate how toned-down and a little more light-hearted the scene can come out as, as oppose to everyone getting violently aggreseive that would feel out of nowhere. For what it is, it's not bad.
@thomasfairburn5254
@thomasfairburn5254 2 жыл бұрын
@@poodoodrilldick7757 It's unnatural to us Westerners but such left field humour is isn't that odd of a thing in Japan. You kinda have to be so accustomed to how different they do things to get it the method behind the madness. No that I'm a complete expert and is gonna justify everything they do so much as try and explain their side to it.
@dspace4514
@dspace4514 2 жыл бұрын
I still don't get why they think we would find this scene hilarious. I would give them the benefit of the doubt the first time around (even then, they were on thin ice), but to not change the dialogue the second time? And before anyone asks, yes, the game does have some changes from the original one. Heck, you have one in this arc where they changed Futaba dialogue in regards to Akechi being able to wield more than one Persona. So if they changed that, why didn't they change this? The only thing i could possibly be okay with is if they actually gave you a choice: hit Ryuji or hug him. But obviously, like button mashing Morgana, there is only option people would pick
@mageyplss
@mageyplss 2 жыл бұрын
And that option would be Hug Ryuji, because Ryuji best boy
@Sephiroth08150
@Sephiroth08150 2 жыл бұрын
That scene is popular in Japan because what Ryuji said is ruder in Japan's morals. Still, you don't just punch the guy that just saved you. Sure, he deserves a slap for the "not cute" thing, but a full beatdown? WTF Atlus?
@thomasfairburn5254
@thomasfairburn5254 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sephiroth08150 We don't even see the slapstick so I wouldn't take it seriously.
@Tenebrio-Morio
@Tenebrio-Morio 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasfairburn5254 sometimes that makes it worse.
@Ghostguy693
@Ghostguy693 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah for some odd reason Japanese audiences think this is hilarious. Wish they'd leave us out of it though, it probably wouldn't be _that_ hard to change the scene slightly.
@konjiki8203
@konjiki8203 2 жыл бұрын
So you are telling me the original take was not only the girls, but everyone jumping Ryuji? Damn, even Ren wanted to run his fade. Fight Back, Ryuji.
@googleisevil8958
@googleisevil8958 Жыл бұрын
At least Ren could have said "Let's just leave it at that." Still the fact that two of the three protentional responses were implied to harping on Ryuji is just sad. He's like your best friend, Ren!
@darrylaz3570
@darrylaz3570 2 жыл бұрын
Yikes Atlus talk about missing the mark then added rockets to your legs so it's way more off the mark. Thank goodness it's cut because if that stayed all members of the Phantom Thieves goes waaaay down on the likability tier list.
@kolbymiller3440
@kolbymiller3440 2 жыл бұрын
You know, this scene really gets me. I know it's supposed to be comedic slapstick on ryuji who normally gets s@#$ on for being rough around the edges, and Yes he was rude with how he handled it and I don't blame Ann for slapping him. but even when thinking that I had issues with this scene. This happen IMMEDIATELY after the palace of the biggest villain so far in the game, and after they were literally CRYING about his "death." So timing wise... this is not the time for a "let's beat up ryuji" joke. This is the big moment where we should be relashing in our victory over the main villain, they should be happy ryuji is alive at all! Sure he's tactless with it but let it slide just this once THE MAN NEARLY DIED AND YOU WERE CRYING OVER HIM! secondly, THEY LEAVE HIM THERE! In the middle of the night against a random lamp post... WTF? HE'S YOUR FRIEND! HE JUST NEARLY SACRIFICED HIMSELF TO SAVE YOU ALL! And those issues I had with the version in game... if it was this version I would really have hated it because this is going beyond slapstick and into actual assault/violence, EVEN MORGANA AGREES WHEN FUTABA SAYS SOMETHING! AND MORGANA AND RYUJI DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER! And then, even if joker, the one that normally know how to handle the team says "guys, let it go just this once" they F@#$ING REFUSE AND DO IT ANYWAY! I don’t care how much slapstick comedy this is, this scene, in this original version, is straight up abuse.
@kolbymiller3440
@kolbymiller3440 2 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Rodriguez dang, I kinda forgot that ryuji had an abusive father, but even if he didn't... he did get abused by kamoshida. Some of the slapstick with ryuji in the game is fine if you ask me, it's a kind of comedy Japan likes but... sometimes they take it too far like here. I know the joke is "ha ha ryuji is tactless and Rude so pissed off his friends ruining his 5 minutes of fame" but like... to take if THIS far (or even as far as they did in the actual game) ending with them LEAVING HIM KNOCKED OUT AGAINST A STREET LAMP is just insane and abusive from what are supposed to be his CLOSEST FRIENDS! They could have left it at Ann slapping him, that's fine they know each other the most so it happens with emotions... but the rest is abuse. Like, even if the guy has no tact and in the end they do care about him, they could have cut him some slack this ONE time! After Ann slaps him he yells "what did I do" and the gang yells at him about how worried they were clearly pissed off. But because they just finished their biggest mission and because he really was ready to sacrifice himself for them, they let it slide this once. His 5 minutes of fame still get broken but he doesn't get ganged up on
@theilluminatibenefactor
@theilluminatibenefactor 9 ай бұрын
I agree. But Mona PROTESTED against Futaba if you look at it again
@Loner098
@Loner098 4 ай бұрын
​@thomasrodriguez5876 Ann also kinda gets sexualized a decent amount even after the Kamoshida arc, which is yet another contradiction towards a woman's sex appeal.
@Loner098
@Loner098 4 ай бұрын
​@@kolbymiller3440 Kamoshida *did* kinda also break Ryuji's leg, so there's that.
@Connector7th
@Connector7th 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is a game but this behavior isn't warranted EVER. A friend group shouldn't embrace laying hands on anyone for unreasonable situations. It's disrespectful and degrading to see. And trust me, it won't turn out whimsical and comical like you see in your anime. That person feels like shit. It's borderline bullying among friends. I think that's worse than your local bully. Your friends doing it.
@TheGroovyRoomLab
@TheGroovyRoomLab 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone: NOO! Ryuji is DEAD! Why?! Ryuji: Hey guys! I’m back! Everyone: KILL HIM!
@tadbane5957
@tadbane5957 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy how they are angrier at ryuji then they were at Akechi
@aleksandrsiv6099
@aleksandrsiv6099 8 ай бұрын
Not only that. Akechi, the guy who responsible of death Futaba's mother and Haru's father, responsible for deaths of countless civilians due mental shutdowns, responsible for almost killing Ren/Akira and betraying Phantom Thieves, still treats Ryuji more lightly then entire cast. Honestly, now that i'm think about it does Sumire also will beat up Ryuji, if she was present?
@ryuji8762
@ryuji8762 2 жыл бұрын
Now imagine if Ryuji was a girl and they all beat her up. Would it still be "hilarious"?
@akramirez
@akramirez 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@machine1685
@machine1685 2 жыл бұрын
I love Persona 5 and Royal. I truly and honestly do. I'm actually in the middle of doing a solo Almighty Arsene run in Royal. But boy oh boy does Atlus make some ""decisions"" with their writing.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 2 жыл бұрын
Persona 5’s story would be so much better if they didn’t lean so damn hard on the anime tropes and more like SMT in it’s storytelling aspects. Could have been the darkest modern Persona entry since Persona 2 without these tropey trappings being in the way. For fuck’s sake, it starts like an abusive sexual predator that made a girl try to end her life by jumping off a roof. Think of how the rest of the game could have been if they kept it to that really dark writing style with the occasional comedic moments to break up the darkness once in a while.
@machine1685
@machine1685 2 жыл бұрын
@@rayvenkman2087 They started off absolutely phenomenal with Kamoshida as a villain. But from there, at least for me, they never touched that peak after his palace.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 2 жыл бұрын
@@machine1685 It feels like they put the most effort into making Kamoshida a despicable human being by showing and presenting his sins in the real world. Something that we don’t really see with Madarame and other characters including Kaneshiro whom you think would be a more evil person than Kamoshida by virtue of his role as a crime boss but we don’t really see much of their rotten sides outside of their Metaverse counterparts. Okumura is especially terrible in not having his real world actions shown on screen and the game tries to make him out as a sympathetic character without bothering to convey that. Madarame’s neglect could have been shown, Kaneshiro’s criminal behaviour could have been shown and implicated and Okumura’s overworking of his employees in the real world could have been shown on screen. As much as P5 The Animation gets wrong including shoehorning Akechi into scenes that were for Sae, it did try to show more of the other Palace rulers’ sins and they changed this atrocious scene as well.
@machine1685
@machine1685 2 жыл бұрын
@@rayvenkman2087 Exactly! Kamoshida shined so much because we got to see his evils first hand and the effects they had. We learn what hes done to Ryuji, witness the abuse Mishima goes threw, Ann's desperation, and Shiho's suicide attempt. And to top it off, the adults all know about it and turn a blind eye to it. We witness true injustice that only we as the PT can stop. The other bosses simply dont have that.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 2 жыл бұрын
@@machine1685 Plus I feel that Haru should have been introduced in the Kaneshiro Arc alongside Makoto. They could have had him try to extort Haru’s father for money once she got caught up in Makoto’s mess while they could have tied the guy’s connection to the death of Makoto’s father in some form or something to have commonality with her than what we got.
@RebelRiot
@RebelRiot 2 жыл бұрын
Damn the unused theives are vicious
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 2 жыл бұрын
This unused dialogue feels so out of place its almost creepy. I also have no clue why Makoto or Haru would be mad at him. Ann kinda at least makes sense for the stupid comment but if Futaba was supposed to be mad because of Mona that should’ve been about 10 hours earlier.
@firstnamlastnam2141
@firstnamlastnam2141 2 жыл бұрын
As if the scene didn't feel out of nowhere already, the characters aren't even acting in character anymore.
@nicoffee777
@nicoffee777 Жыл бұрын
This fucking scene is so unnecessarily cruel it's unbelievable
@joyurizzzz
@joyurizzzz 2 жыл бұрын
this is why this game confuses me sometimes. who thought it would be funny to have a kid who’s experienced physical and mental violence all his life get beat up by his friends
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Жыл бұрын
it was hilarious, snowflake
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Жыл бұрын
@MCU fell off after phase 3 yes it is😐
@EmoLover43
@EmoLover43 Жыл бұрын
@@mihaimercenarul7467 okay indian
@EmoLover43
@EmoLover43 Жыл бұрын
@@mihaimercenarul7467 keep crying nigga
@mihaimercenarul7467
@mihaimercenarul7467 Жыл бұрын
@@EmoLover43 assuming I am indian? you must have 2 neurons at best
@dforond
@dforond 2 жыл бұрын
I love just how all the fandom hate this scene
@ShiningTaiga
@ShiningTaiga 2 жыл бұрын
Than there's that vocal minority who don't see why we hate this scene
@nekogamer2508
@nekogamer2508 2 жыл бұрын
Not in the East
@SolsLuminous
@SolsLuminous Жыл бұрын
In Japan it was voted the best scene in the game soooo
@branlopgar
@branlopgar 11 ай бұрын
​@@SolsLuminous Let's just file that under "Japan being Japan". Like, they're the ones who defend Akechi's actions. I know most of his angst and desire for revenge on Shido comes from something that is mostly a Japanese taboo (born from a single mother and a literal son of a whore, which is bad everywhere but it is way worse in Japan), but using that as an excuse for his murders... Yeah, only in Japan.
@keondramcintyre3444
@keondramcintyre3444 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I can somewhat image how uncomfortable the VAs must have felt voicing this.
@PotatoVoid255
@PotatoVoid255 2 жыл бұрын
This just makes the whole thing more messed up because he saved us from the explosion like give the man a hug!!
@elite6321
@elite6321 2 жыл бұрын
Oh and there's extra dialogue too. Wtf atlus?!
@PoIarization101
@PoIarization101 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I like the cast’s delivery of those new lines a lot, this definitely makes the scene so much worse (and I’m not even a big Ryuji fan). He literally saved their lives and that’s how they repay him?
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 2 жыл бұрын
If they had to vent their anger at him in their grief, comedic slaps to the face would have been more preferable than this and you could have actually gotten a hilarious comment out of him when Haru gives him one like this: “For real Haru, how strong is that fffing hand of yours!?”
@j.s.ospina9861
@j.s.ospina9861 2 жыл бұрын
"I survived!" "Oh don't worry Ryuji, not for long"
@michellegreene5458
@michellegreene5458 2 жыл бұрын
The final version of this scene already ticked me off enough because the girls’ vicious (deadly) anger towards ryuji made no sense, but THIS version just puts the icing on that bitter cake. If they made this the final cut, the game would probably have a lower review score imo.
@DiogoJ1
@DiogoJ1 Ай бұрын
Deadly? The guy was just knocked down a few notches. Calling it deadly is an exageration.
@somasora7
@somasora7 2 жыл бұрын
I can see why this got removed. The scene as it is is already garbage to me, and made me actively dislike the Thieves for a few minutes, but this isn't even slapstick, it's just straight up abuse. And those extra lines are even more out of character than the ones in the original scene
@theo9501
@theo9501 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I'm still pissed at how Atlus handled Ryuji's entire character. Any time Ryuji did something good they would immediately downplay it, like the scenes above or him making comments. Which has led him to become a very disliked character. But it's not just that in general, but also how the other Phantom Thieves acted in response. If he made some one-off comment then yeah it makes sense for them to be annoyed, but this entire scene is incredibly out of character for everyone except Morgana and Ryuji. The whole Morgana fight thing too, I think it's fair that Morgana and Ryuji would fight but their reactions made no sense, and the apology was hardly an apology at all. I feel like this has happened with other areas of the game as well, which really disappointed me because the plot was a wonderful idea and the concepts for the characters were fantastic, but the execution at times feels like a train wreck.
@rayvenkman2087
@rayvenkman2087 2 жыл бұрын
Fortunately, Strikers toned down the abuse on him and limit it to just the physical contact with most of the jails in a way that actually is pretty funny with how they execute the scenes. Unfortunately it has it’s own equivalent to this one but with all the boys involved. Though if they were going to make him the comic relief, then they should have probably omitted the physical abuse backstory for him or stop leaning so damn hard on those anime tropes instead of having their cake and eat it ordeal.
@triv1a947
@triv1a947 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this scene makes Akechi look like a good person.
@i.wannabe.m.e
@i.wannabe.m.e 2 жыл бұрын
This scene always made my blood boil. And now, knowing the extra context, I can confidently say that this is the worst scene in any persona game. Worse than the bath house scenes especially. Ryuji is a *physical abuse* victim. And yet, the teammates he saved and almost died for are acting as bad as his bullies, his father, and even Kamoshida. How fucking disrespectful of ATLUS to even consider this to be included. -a victim
@Mr_Mistah
@Mr_Mistah 8 ай бұрын
Okay bud
@alfredopuente6483
@alfredopuente6483 Жыл бұрын
Psrsonally I cried during this scene the first time I played P5. If you think about it Ryuji is the first human who believes in Joker (you) and trusts him even when everyone thinks that Joker is a criminal. For a whole minute I thought that Atlus was going to pull another Shinjiro from P3 at this point and I was not prepared for that. But the fact that we all care so much about Ryuji says how amazingly well Atlus wrote these characters and how much we care about them.
@AnInkStick
@AnInkStick Жыл бұрын
For people defending the scene, let me ask you this, what if it was the opposite situation what is a bunch of guys beating up on a girl? Would this still just be “slapstick humor” oh, and people treated as the disgusting abuse that this is. Friends don’t hit friends PERIOD.
@theilluminatibenefactor
@theilluminatibenefactor 9 ай бұрын
People defended this shit? HELL NO.
@I_want_a_discount_in_life
@I_want_a_discount_in_life 8 ай бұрын
@theilluminatibenefactor it was voted favorite/funniest scene by 🌟 Japan 🌟
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 8 ай бұрын
Cuz Ryuji's not very well liked in Japan, due to his character being an outspoken loudmouth, and disruptive of Japan's social harmony.@@I_want_a_discount_in_life
@Mr_Mistah
@Mr_Mistah 8 ай бұрын
It's called cultural differences you trog
@kaitokid5797
@kaitokid5797 2 ай бұрын
If it's in the same context as this scene, sure. It may be more popular against men but anime has had all types of jokes that include violence and abuse against women as well. If a scene is clearly intended to be just a joke, why take it seriously? Also, if being a decent human being is just so important to people, even in fiction, why do people who are outraged about this scene still like, love, and defend Ryuji considering he exbihits questionable behaviors himself that are unbecoming of a "good friend"? People should just admit they got hots for Ryuji and they're willing to overlook the same dumb anime tropes that they claim is their issue with this scene or some sort of bad writing. Ryuji isn't independent of Persona or Atlus but people make it as if he's a real person who is a victim of Atlus' abuse.
@inari850
@inari850 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but this whole scene was out of pocket for all of the characters. I get that they were worried about Ryuji but this dude SAVED ALL OF THEM! I don’t get the understanding of why The writers wanted to make him be the punching bag of the group like this. Like yes I get Ryuji has said and done dumb shit. However realistically it makes no sense to beat him up for it. There are even more explains of this before this one event! I understand he is a “Comic relief” character but at the same time I don’t give a fuck if he is. Ryuji is one my favorite characters the RPG genre and for him to be this thrown under the bus is shameful and disrespectful as fuck.
@avendurree
@avendurree 2 жыл бұрын
I like Ryuji. Scenes like this are things I really dislike about the game, it wasnt even funny, I dunno why japanese have this shitty sense of humor to have one of their favorite scenes... For real, Ryuji got verbally abused by the cat the whole game, his friends scold him when he gave the cat taste of his own medicine, then this shit happens... The dude genuinely looks confused, teases Ann for 5 seconds and his friends go balistic on him. Yeaaa...great friends and great sense of humor Japan...
@IceQueen975
@IceQueen975 2 жыл бұрын
I WILL drag Ryuji for screaming "pHaNtOm ThEiVeS!!11!" all the time but that's it. Both Morgana and him are at fault for thier fighting. And this scene? Fuck no. Horrible.
@Epicbuttercat
@Epicbuttercat 2 жыл бұрын
The Morgana and Ryuji relationship dynamic isn't like verbal abuse. Mona knows that Ryuji has a strong sense of will and he knows what he can handle so teasing him on the stuff he says throughout the game never effected ryuji. Its kind of like one of those relationships with a friend where you guys constantly shit on each other which i do with a best friend of mine and what they say is mild compared XD. And they actually do like each other you can see in the serious scenes they actually care alot bout each other as friends. In the end its honestly not that serious, and i've played through the game thrice and really payed attention to all of it. And about the whole thing with Ryuji calling Morgana useless, sometimes you say stuff to someone but you actually have no clue if it'll hurt someone and this was the case as well Ryuji said 4 times spread out actually all in like a 2-3 week time, it was a mental decline for morgana at that point so it really struck a nerve with him Not trynna say your wrong just trying to point out the dynamic between them, they still pretty good friends (although this scene where he gets beat up inexcusable, also morgana was the only one who didnt take part of this in the scene in the cut out version for the canon version that being joker and morgana)
@avendurree
@avendurree 2 жыл бұрын
@@Epicbuttercat I know what you meant, but I disagree. Its not really the dynamic of good friends shitting on each other, more like the cocky "friend" shitting on the other thinking its all good fun, which I've seen happen IRL to a recent coworker and classmate back in high school. Given Ryuji's personality, he didnt take it seriously.
@fk.sizzle5991
@fk.sizzle5991 2 жыл бұрын
That’s because to Japan women hitting men for stupid reasons is funny
@avendurree
@avendurree 2 жыл бұрын
@@rafee_alaasyawi What might be just a video game to you, might be more than a hobby to others. I'm serious, because I like the game, I want it to be better and I wish things like this wouldnt be in the game.
@XMan2001X
@XMan2001X 2 жыл бұрын
Because threatening to attack an abuse victim is TOTALLY okay! BEST FRIENDS!
@rydermcneal5511
@rydermcneal5511 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to remind everyone that this is what he would have gotten for LITERALLY SAVING THEIR LIVES!
@_Adie
@_Adie 2 жыл бұрын
I could give it the benefit of the doubt and be like "haha, cultural differences ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" but even then that doesn't make sense. It's like they're mad at him for... surviving? What type of tsundere shit is this? "Oh, you made me worried because I thought you died, but you're actually alive so fuck you." For such a good game, P5 really has a lot of dumb writing. but the animations of ann throwing a haymaker and makoto sucker punching are funny as hell, i'll admit
@ainzuploadz1863
@ainzuploadz1863 Жыл бұрын
Honestly what sucks so much about this scene is how easy it would have been to salvage it-- Have Ryuji prank them. He jumps out and says "boo" or sum shit which justifies why everyone is so angry boom instead of just random "I can't beliEvE yOu mAde US thInk YoU diEd."
@IcyLapis
@IcyLapis 2 жыл бұрын
1:30 For the unused part
@MNthal
@MNthal 2 жыл бұрын
i really don't understand what they were thinking with this. How is this the natural response to someone saving your life? not funny in the slightest
@nekogamer2508
@nekogamer2508 2 жыл бұрын
In Japan it is
@lunolionreacts2362
@lunolionreacts2362 2 жыл бұрын
@@nekogamer2508 Japan has a messed up sense of humor
@nekogamer2508
@nekogamer2508 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunolionreacts2362 so does every country
@lunolionreacts2362
@lunolionreacts2362 2 жыл бұрын
@@nekogamer2508 Then I take it you watched Robot Chicken?
@nekogamer2508
@nekogamer2508 2 жыл бұрын
@@lunolionreacts2362 yes I did
@mastermindmokie7401
@mastermindmokie7401 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t even know this was supposed to be a slapstick moment until I read some of the comments. I was genuinely, and still am, upset about this scene.
@mage_43
@mage_43 Жыл бұрын
I got to this scene yesterday for the first time and it honestly annoyed me how Ryuji literally almost dies, makes a small comment then gets beaten up for it. If they really wanted to keep the "Ryuji gets hurt because he said something dumb" thing then Ann slapping him would have been enough, then afterwards she says something like "but I'm glad you're alright". Maybe some hugging by everyone if they wanted to add that idk.
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 Жыл бұрын
You do know that hugging in Japan is considered an intimate act.
@MrAwesomeMatty
@MrAwesomeMatty 2 жыл бұрын
2:12 "You seem quite fine." The first thing outta my mouth upon hearing that was "Fuck you, Haru." Seriously, what the fuck?? Someone nearly died and you guys says stuff like THIS to him right after?
@ginorincon9183
@ginorincon9183 2 жыл бұрын
Maaaan, they did my Ryuji dirty. He's such a precious well-meaning boy, and they all just bully him 😪
@100Darkspine
@100Darkspine 2 жыл бұрын
An uses the wording "Punish him" at 2:05 like he did something wrong. And like, I can get why somebody would be mad, but they're acting like Ryuji sold them out or betrayed them at some point. Did something behind their back They're acting like they all ordered a huge meal and he made everybody but himself pay, they're acting that petty What's there to "punish" him for? I've heard it's a Japanese trope about characters acting reckless and being punished for it, but this feels so meanspirited
@SaiyanElite-gp4vn
@SaiyanElite-gp4vn 5 ай бұрын
That is the reason this scene was cut, yk. I'm honestly surprised that they even kept this scene. The guy who pitched the idea must've been jealous or Ryuji or smth, or just a guy who's too far gone.
@hansalanson3497
@hansalanson3497 2 жыл бұрын
Is this supposed to be one of those thing that "only the Japanese audience gets it" ? I mean, I understand that there's the "so worried you're angry" trope, like what happened in P4, but this is way different from when Chie chastised Yosuke after his second dive into the TV because: 1. Chie didn't deliberately take out ALL her frustration into hurting Yosuke and just sulked for the day 2. Yosuke was indeed kinda being selfish there and putting her and MC in worrisome predicament 3. It wasn't played for laughs or relief (at least in the game).
@MitsurugiR
@MitsurugiR 2 жыл бұрын
2:28 THEY FUCKING KILLED MY BOY WHAT THE
@RetroRageasaurus
@RetroRageasaurus 2 жыл бұрын
1:29. BRO, literally EVERYTHING WAS OK UP UNTIL 1:29 when Haru finishes talking! Like, WHAT the HELL guys, J E S U S... Even Mona isn't that ass-ish till he has to leave at the end, bruuuuh
@Monorakun
@Monorakun 2 жыл бұрын
Atlus, what the absolute fuck? How come the character who sacrified himself for his friends to live and had a record of being abused by his own father and his teacher, ends being BEATEN UP BY HIS FRIENDS, THE ONES HE SACRIFIED HIMSELF FOR??! HE DIDN'T EVEN PLANNED TO SURVIVE, INSTEAD OF THEM BEING HAPPY AND GRATEFUL, THEY ARE ANGRY BECAUSE, HE SURVIVED?????? EXCUSE ME????
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 Жыл бұрын
Because Ryuji's the comic relief baka.
@Silent_Mochi
@Silent_Mochi 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I didnt like this scene originally But this beta made it even worse I understand what they were trying to do Oh they all got sad he died and he didn't notice and was being an asshole about it so they get back at him The issue is 1. Ryuji doesn't really do anything to deserve this(all he did was say that ann isn't cute when she's crying which is valid imo) 2. Ryujis abuse in context of his social link makes this really bad without context 3. The fact ryuji never gets anything for this and nobody ever acknowledges this moment I'm sorry this scene makes me so angry xD
@JazzoBeat
@JazzoBeat Жыл бұрын
I don't get how you couldn't just said "Ryuji just saved us, let him be" regardless of your confidant rank. Like he's your best friend and just saved everyone
@DiskoNixon.
@DiskoNixon. 2 жыл бұрын
I'm kinda glad they didn't use this scene, I think it's to overly harsh. He actually nearly died and just woke up a little bit after everyone a short distance away. It's not like he hid on purpose
@Growingcrazy8
@Growingcrazy8 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that was a bit harsh for ryuji
@alfredoamendez4299
@alfredoamendez4299 2 жыл бұрын
"A bit"
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 2 жыл бұрын
Well, he mocked the girls for crying when he supposedly died, so yeah. He ruined his 5 minutes of fame by putting his foot in his mouth.
@ZZ-ht6uy
@ZZ-ht6uy 11 ай бұрын
I relate to Ryuji a lot, seeing this shit done to someone like him just hurts to watch
@nickgreene9456
@nickgreene9456 2 жыл бұрын
This scene already made the PT look like total psychopaths the og intended scene would've made them even worse
@Lumii_Yoshizawa
@Lumii_Yoshizawa 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I’m sure we can all agree that we’re very grateful that this is unused.
@johnathanholmes1297
@johnathanholmes1297 Жыл бұрын
My problem with Atlas is that it crosses between anime logic and reality logic when it comes to Persona Games. I am starting to see it after the countless nudity-painting joke for Ann when just a month ago she was constantly sexually assaulted.
@samsungfrid_ge
@samsungfrid_ge 5 ай бұрын
One thing with this game that constantly got me mad was 1)Ann constant sexualize after surviving abuse from an older man 2)Ryuji’s physical abuse in this scene after surviving 2 PHYSICAL ATTACKS from 2 different people in his life Stuff like this was never funny whatsoever, their survivors and they downplay it for comedic relief. Nothing was funny about either of the cases
@sebastianyoshikage6352
@sebastianyoshikage6352 2 жыл бұрын
This has to be the most unrealistic reaction to a guy that almost died for their sake. I’m glad that this scene didn’t get any worse in the vanilla game.
@mokonarose01
@mokonarose01 2 жыл бұрын
When they say love HURTS they meant it. Dang, Ryuji didn't deserve all that. Im suprised this is what it was supposed to be at one point 🙁🙁
@jonathangp65
@jonathangp65 2 жыл бұрын
Excuse me for my language here, but this is extremely fucked up. You guys were just crying a few seconds ago with him possibly dying for you all and, in spite his possibly bad way of lightening up the mood to show that everything was A-Okay in the end, you guys team up and PUMMEL him?! _"You're too nice."_?! And with those comments of making sure he died to make his previous statement true was extremely uncalled for! Hell, even having Makoto make sure she picks up his bones and Futaba wondering how Ryuji'll look post death is just sickening. I'm so damn glad they removed this scene, or I'd have lost all respect for the girls here, and hated Makoto even more because of this. Yusuke would have lost some respect from me since his comments are a bit out of the blue for those light remarks Ryuji made. Morgana would actually be placed higher for me due to not wanting Futaba to give him a solid punch on his behalf, considering his quirk in the team is to make snide comments to Ryuji and vice versa.
@ratnaandrajveerGaming007
@ratnaandrajveerGaming007 2 жыл бұрын
Yusuke - *Did you die* ? Ryuji - *My Death was Greatly Exaggerated* Yusuke - *Do you want to die* ?
@donovanhadley2209
@donovanhadley2209 2 жыл бұрын
Geez, the just wanted to murder him.
@slayeroffurries1115
@slayeroffurries1115 10 ай бұрын
Teacher "Hey class, today we will beat and torture Ryuji to death" Kid named Ryuji:
@monokuma7746
@monokuma7746 2 жыл бұрын
Dam they murdered him for not dying 😳
@TitusRedwind
@TitusRedwind Жыл бұрын
He literally saved their lives and they're pissed he's not dead. Fake friends.
@lewis9s
@lewis9s Жыл бұрын
“You saved our lives! How fucking dare you, *TIME FOR AN ALL OUT ATTACK!!”*
@TaurusTheCrazyBull
@TaurusTheCrazyBull Жыл бұрын
Honestly should have given the player the option to get between them and Ryuji or at least stay by his side until he recovers, sure this might be "comedic" but some people (such as I) don't like seeing someone who just risked their damn life In order to save others only for those exact same people to gang up on them and leave them unconscious for probably the two pervy guys to find him and do lord knows what to him a second time
@dragonslayerornstein9553
@dragonslayerornstein9553 Жыл бұрын
WOW, just wow. If I were ryuji, putting my neck on the chopping block the way he did, I would have felt soul crushing treachery and our friendships completely destroyed. the game took a big hit from this scene, but now knowing what it could have been it's even worse.
@MarcoA3774
@MarcoA3774 2 жыл бұрын
1:46 >Joker >You're awful, Ryuji. OH NO
@adiazrue5776
@adiazrue5776 2 жыл бұрын
I get that this was probably the usual type of slapstick comedy in Japan, but the way it was framed here with the lack of "goofy" music or a change in artsyle (like they usually do in anime when this kind of stuff happens) make it so much more serious than the dev intended, it makes the whole scene uncomfortable and just make the Phantom Thieves looks like a bunch of jerks lmao
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