"there are people EVERYWHERE"- as an adult understanding the truth of that statement, I'm saddened in a different way.

I am estonian i was just turned 7 that same day ,my birthday is 27 september and i rember this accident it was sad day !

😂😂😂😂My mother told me when l was 5 if you made a face to the kids next door the wind would your face permanently. I was terrified.

@@sking3492 Jeeez

You have a good heart.

I learned this from bijlmerramp

Actually, that is very interesting. Thanks for including it.

Not useless... Intuitive... They always 'ramp' it up.

More of a sad fact

Thank you for the information. Never know about this so thank you again!

Wow got a sense of deja vu last summer also in july i was on a ferry from turku finland also to germany and me and my brother slept on the top deck of the ferry pretty wild, sad what happened to them

In denmark we had a man named Herman Himle who was on that ferry back in the day (under a different name) was he actually guilty. He appear to be that person that has a lot to say & if it annoys the authorities then he will be happy to say it. If he actually committed then why was he acquitted in finnish court? He has been throwing a lot around since that appears to be nutts & bolts, but one said: he claimed he did IT. A lot of words in the documentary doesnt make sense & i highly doubt his words as he is full of hot air...

No fricken mystery, if Estonia was used by Americans to transport Russian military hardware from Baltic States. I guess someone grom KGB had enough and sank Estonia.

The ones that bugger off are worse. The ones who freeze can be left on board to go down with the ship while someone else takes lead.😆

If you’re talking about Costa Concordia, he didn’t abandon ship, he FELL into a lifeboat. Which then unexpectedly carried him to the shore. 😂😂😂

@@farfaraway4285 ah yes, the old “fell into the lifeboat” guy. And didn’t he change into civilian clothing before “falling into the lifeboat” or am I confusing coward captains?

​@@ResearchNational yes you are correct. He changed his clothes when he got to safety before being interviewed.

If a captain stays, at least he isn't taking up a spot on a lifeboat that someone else can use

That one was attempted insurance fraud. Scandinavian Star was barely legal, this was the first journey after some neck breaking deals and firefighters discovered at least three separate fires.

@@user-yi3yx2fn7g I know, i have an aunt that travelled with Scandinavian star a few days before the fire, she said the ship was in complete disrepair, cabins were being constructed or refurbished while the ship was operating, hoses and extension cords were strewn in the isles and through where the fire doors should close in case of fire.

Not to forget the MS Jan Heweliusz sinking a year before Estonia

@@darraghmckenna9127 lol I travelled on that ferry in 1990 and THAT was a crusty, rusty, dusty wreck held together by glue and tape! I was terrified the entire trip and it's amazing it held together for three years afterwards! I find nothing weird in that sinking. Screws INSIDE the ferry, in our cabin, were rusted loose!

@@user-yi3yx2fn7g no surprising, the repair job for the fire damage seemed amateur at best

Thanks mate. 🤛🏻

Thanks yes I'm enjoying adding that in

​@@waterlinestories it's cool!

@@waterlinestories keep it up! its not easy to improve upon an already great concept

@@dabootvv Well said.

@@waterlinestories It is dumb and unrelated. A play to inflate legitimacy. A gimmick.

More so ,, I’m terribly not going on a boat ,, ship ( any kind ) I’m have bad vertigo ,, found this out in the late 80s ,, sick was a understatement . 🤦‍♀️

Enjoy your box.

As he explains in the video, yes they WERE saying that. The problem was they weren't saying precise information about their exact coordinates because the GPS was at a crazy angle and nobody could get to it to read the position for awhile. And constant updates on exact condition depends on actually knowing the condition, which they probably didn't themselves.

It is dumb, and not related what so ever.

@@Look_What_You_Did It's dumb and funny that you felt the need to respond to three comments to complain about this 😂😂😂

I was like meh, but then I thought, he's put some effort in and not used some silly stock footage. I like it.

Thank you so much for sharing your memories.

@@user-fj4mo9xz1c your welcome.

Did anyone ever say why? It's the first time I've ever heard of a ship- civilian or Military- covered in concrete.

@@derektaylor2941 They wanted to make it a “Seamans” grave. The reason that they wanted it covered by concrete mats was because Russian Navy ships were constantly near the spot where it sank. Also there was a rich guy who hired an ROV vessel to find his wife’s body and wanted to retrieve her with divers once he found her. So the Swedish government decided to cover it so no one could disturb the wreckage and, most importantly, the bodies of the deceased. They were afraid that people would dive to the wreckage to retrieve valuables from the trucks and the deceased.

@@erikgoossens1 it is unusual though, compared to other ship wrecks. Whilst I make no judgement either way, I can understand why the conspiracy theorists believe there is something inside the ship that they want to remain there. Thanks for explanation.

It is dumb.

@Look_What_You_Did I won’t hear any more Pen on Paper map slander. You’re already on thin ice

The ships I have been on as a passenger had rear or side ramps.

I’m fairly sure these types of ships have doors at both ends, because you don’t want the hassle of trying to drive all the vehicles backwards.

I think thats what the raising front section was supposed to function as, a way to keep pressure off the bulkhead of the loading port, but once that was gone like you said going at that speed in that weather its not suprizeing those hinges failed

Very typical and used design .

​@@Sashazur correct

Search up express samina

one reason is that after this incident, atleast in the nordic countries and estonia, they welded the front shut, and only use the back to load trucks and cars now.

@@Weffi76makes sense. I work in Agriculture and all the Wallenius Wilhelmsen ships that move the machines are stern loaders.

@@Weffi76 that is not my experience. Bow loading still takes place.

Like Estonia, most accidents do not occur due to a single event, but many. Even an inch of water on the car deck won't automatically sink the ship. One inch of water on a RoRo 575 ft long, 100ft wide (about the Estonia or a Mariella class size) is about 130 tons of water. On a calm day with little movement, you'd not even notice that in the handling of the ship. Even on a violent sea, 130 tons is not going to capsize the ship- that's going to make it handle about the same as a badly loaded deck with 3 lorries on one side... With a ship weighing 37,500 tons (as with Mariella- don't know about Estonia) you won't sink from that. In any case there are drains all over the deck- named scuppers- which will either drain straight to the side or will have active pumps which switch on when detecting water. A clearer example of multiple events leading to a RoRo sinking is MV Herald of Free Enterprise... there were so many failures that happened and if only one failure had been detected and prevented then it would never have capsized- same with Estonia, perhaps (HOFE: bow door open, bow trim tanks flooded to match the linkspan, shallow water, increased speed, turning to port... take away any one of those and accident avoided). Re being trapped: I took part in a crew training event on Olympia (sister to Mariella, though just changed fleet) right after Estonia. When you're down on the lower decks, below water, with the power off, using torches because they even deactivated the emergency lights, with dry ice to simulate smoke and trying to get up to the top decks... that was not pleasant and that was in port and not on a ship in a storm. HTH.

Great information I'm sure the survivors floating in the water were concerned about the correct name of the helicopters that were coming to try and save them wow are you just being smart I'm amazed that you're brilliance of British aircraft you should be up aircraft designer better yet you should be someone that names their crafts😂

Were actually working on it.

@@waterlinestories omg cannot WAIT

​@@waterlinestories I also cannot wait! I read a riveting piece from William Langewiesche on El Faro which was my gateway into this subject. Can't wait to see how you cover it!

​@@waterlinestoriesyes lad

More like the other way around.. El Faro went down because of one mans Ego..

Yeah that series is full of bulls*** if its the one im thinking of. There was unreported damage discovered yes. But it was investigated and found to have been from from contact with the sea floor and discoved only recently as the boat has shifted position over the years, revealing parts of the hull that where hidden when the original investigation took place.

I'm Swedish. I didn't know it at the time but I lived in the city that was hit the hardest by the tragedy as about 100 of the people who were lost came from said city. For well over a month the only thing I heard downtown were the church bells tolling for the funeral services (most without a casket) day in and day out. It was a very somber sound. I remember waking up that morning. I always woke up to the prolonged radio news at 06.45 but this morning my brain was very slow to react, so I didn't really hear what they were talking about. Instead I reacted because usually they shifted news story after a minute or so, but this seemed to just be one very long, very serious story. After a quick shower I went out to the communal TV and switched on the TV where the news showed the helicopters evacuating people from the life rafts. I still couldn't grasp what had happened and just stared at the TV in silence. One after another my fellow dorm mates joined me on the sofa. Somehow we managed to cram 8 people in a sofa made for 3. No one said a word; we were all just staring at the TV, but then one of the guys began to cry. A situation where 8 adults sit on top of each other and just stare at the screen in total silence for about two hours in indeed a traumatizing event.

@@swedishmeatball4382 It is still a difficult topic to discuss for many and now that I'm much older I completely understand why. I have some friends in Sweden who lost someone that night. I hope you're doing alright.

this channel is doing God s work, people take many things for granted, no way I am sleeping or below deck in any ship for any period of time lol and will do a reconnaissance tour of everything like you said, and all thanks to what I ve seen here

Thanks 👌🏻

Those are not shots from Estonia but from another ships.

@@dexio85 I have been tricked.

@@something7239 Don't feel bad. Remember it as a lesson. TRUST NOTHING on the Internet until you've confirmed it yourself. Not photos. Not audio. Not words. Verify first... because the Internet is half truths incarnate.

​@@dexio85Some are from Estonia but most of the video footage is from Concordia I believe. Its defo Estonia where the little red liferafts are being tossed about in the swell, filmed by a chopper. Pretty haunting video footage of those rafts, in some videos, about half of the people in the raft are dead. I remember theres a clip on Ytbe where a young, attractive, fit looking kid gets airlifted out of a raft, he survived, but the raft is partially filled with dead bodies just floating face down. The look on his face... Like a ghost. The fear of cold exemplified. I also recall a young fella saying he knew something was wrong, went to evacuate up the stairs, but his gf, mum & dad just froze at the entryway, he was carried up the stairs with the crowd & that was the last time he saw them, looking shell shocked & bewildered. Awful.

🤣 thanks. I'm working on it

Constructive critisism: It should have at least been mentioned that the reasons and findings about the sinking are disputed. It could not be ruled out that weapons were smuggled, that it was sabotage, there maybe was a bomb threat aboard just before leaving habour, according to some sources. The swedish government wanted to completely cover the wreck in concrete as soon as possible and without consent swedish from nation and people involved ships dropped rubble over the wreck. @waterlinestories

Well, that sucks. I get paid just as much with good health, and I don't even have close to the certifications and responsibilities that you have. My home and family is less than 5 mins. away. I literally put part in machine press button remove and repeat.

Money talks unfortunately. People's safety isn't paramount when there's money to be made.

Damn, I make more than that and I’m mainly just a dental hygienist for peoples pets.

why hire you for high pay when they can get all the crew from the 3rd world and pay them 120$ a month

@@imchris5000 To save lives? Properly inspect the vessel before, during and after the trip? To actually organize a proper evacuation? To minimize damage by initiation of proper safety protocols and securing the damaged area to prevent spreading? 🤷

Same, but I was an “adult”, barely 18 and living in my first own home. Estonia happening right after Princess Diana’s death felt almost apocalyptic, I remember waking up to both, vividly. This was before internet, so quickest way to find news was text-tv, me & ex were glued to it, trying to find updates and checking all news broadcasts from all possible channels (I think we had 4 back then). Im a Finn and we traveled to Marienhamn in summer ‘95, it was hot & muggy July week, but I refused to go swimming.. all I could think was all the bodies, somewhere in that same dark water. I was melting, but I just couldnt make myself go into the water. On my first ferry trip to Stockholm after Estonia, I was super aware of every creak the ship made, I dont think I slept much at all. I cant even imagine how it mustve felt like as a child..

​@@janemiettinen5176 Estonia sunk in 1994.

@@helene4397 For some weird reason my brain makes Princess Di happening the same year, I dont get it myself.

Thanks. I'll check it out.

Another comment said they are almost all from the Concordia sinking.

Thanks Beverly. Great to see you here👌🏻

@@waterlinestories Well, I've been here for weeks waiting for a new story from my favorite guy 😉😉 great to see you back at it

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😂 I wish I were that good. I actually use a teleprompter. It’s the only way I could be as precise. Even then there’s a fair amount of editing out the garbled tongue twisters.

Thanks for your kind reply. I hope you continue with these excellent videos. Many of us enjoy vicarious excitement and adventure from your work but of course loss of life is sad but at sea anything can happen. These videos are far superior to the rest on You Tube and a cut above the American output. Best wishes in all you do. Peter Starr London UK

Thanks Peter. I actually lived in London for 15 years. My wife’s German so we moved to Germany after our son was born. Now we live in the middle of nowhere. Big change from London

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Yes it was caused by the ship hitting the seabed when she sank. When she landed on her side hard parts of the seabed punctured the hull on her side.

@@parnordquist6607she landed on sand, and the sand made it impossible to make that powerful hole in the ship wreck

​@@QertzonOfficalAt first it was belived to be only soft seabed at the site of the wreck. New investigations of the site have shown that part of the seabed is rock. Those parts match the holes in the hull.

And a very well told story, that did not go into all of the conspiracies that lingered around the sinking, with claims of forbidden weapons or drugs transported, being the reason the ship sunk (I seem to remember claims that someone onboard found out costums would raid the ship, so they opened the bow to dump some vehicles containing the illegal stuff, but did not disengage the locking pals before opening the gate, making the hydraulic cylinders force the hinges to break)

@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Yes, I heard and saw those other causes - on different documentaries. I think that what we saw here was the truth. I thought the analysis that we saw of how the tragedy could have been avoided (or greatly reduced) was very useful.

@@nigelh3253 I agree, no matter why the bow port fell off, the captain and his crew terribly mismanaged the situation. This accident reminds me a bit of the "MS Harold of free enterprice" disaster, there someone forgot to close the bow and they sailed until the ship was full of water and again...No camera's to see what was going on. Luckily, today the laws have changed and these kinds of disasters would be all but impossible.

@@JohnDoe-bd5sz Yes the Herald of Free Enterprise was another Ro-Ro ferry (roll on, roll off). Almost 200 lives lost. Crew had a very lazy attitude - the man who should have shut the bow doors was asleep in his cabin! But nobody else bothered to check the doors and close them. Presumably this would have only taken a few minutes. Things like closing the door should have been double checked and not just left to one idle crew member. A disgrace.

What podcast ?

They still would've died.

Oh Lord, not another conspiracy theorist 🙄.

@@johnnunn8688 because everybody knows conspiracies are not real. The rich and powerful are ABSOLUTELY NOT doing shady deals, ever. Not once in history! Brilliant and high IQ post brother!

@@johnnunn8688 There were claims of foul play, possibly involving military equipment. These theories only gained traction when governments in the area made it illegal to try to recover anything from the ship, going as far as to want to pour concrete over the ship below, so that no one would be able to enter it.

@@johnnunn8688 Oh Lord, another sheep

@@neera1123finally someone who uses his brain 👍

To point at things

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Bc there’re no pictures of the Estonia listing 90 degrees

Does it, though? Lol. The ship sank while sailing, anyone with common sense would know that those were meant as reference material. Chill out man, this video was fantastic. Lol

It’s obvious to everyone that possesses a brain.

actively scooping up water by going forward certainly didn't help...

They didn’t physically investigate a loud bang heard on the bridge. They forensically investigated the door and hinges. Had they stopped or even backdown on the initial bang the outcome would have been different.

@@PadConnelly interesting. I read the wiki on it. It told a story just like the video. I was interested if the primary captain died in the wreck. Apparently he did and rightfully so.

you are correct. There was nothing they could have done. The safest thing to do in a storm is to sail into the wind like they did. And maintain speed so you don’t loos steering control

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