Me too. Jesse Broadwater style.

Thanks for watching, You are correct, I mentioned in the video that Cascade, HotShot and Scott archery have previously made relax style releases but not an index relax

Thanks for watching and I always appreciate the input!

Thinking this EXACT thing

My only concern about this as well

I can do that

When I was transitioning from fingers to release back in the day I did that with a cascade. Loved that release. Sergio Pagni still shoots one!

Thanks for watching Bart, maybe I can make a shorts video with more of a close up of the action. Thanks for the suggestion.

Thanks for watching, I agree this prototype needs some tweaking. This is typically the process. Prove it works then refine as needed

probably a safety or something that will be installed

He literally explains it’s a prototype.

Thanks for watching , I’m doing my best to shoot it as a surprise release and It’s actually the opposite, as you relax your finger it goes off smooth and the bow reacts straight forward

Wow, Thanks for watching, I had completely forgotten about the Winn freeflight releases. I haven't seen one in 20+ years. I wish I had mentioned it in the video.

Thanks for watching! You can contact Mr Estrada through one of the links in the description. He actually sent me a wrist sling with the release, I just chose not to use it. I should have mentioned that in the video.

He actually sent me a wrist lanyard with the release I just chose not to use it. I'll most likely be doing some shorts video with it as well. Mr. Estrada says that it releases fast enough that if you release all 3 fingers at full draw the release just drops straight to the ground. So far I haven't had the nerve to try that but I will soon. LOL

I had the same issue. However, I fixed it by pulling back normal and then rotating the palm facing out after the bow drops all the weight off. I blew out my rotator cuff doing other shit and couldn't pull back 20 lbs. After rehabbing it, also took a year and rotating after drop off, shoulder pain gone. I could pull 80 lbs all day but stick with 70.

Thanks for watching, you are correct. The neck is quite long and would require most people to shorten the draw length. With that said, this is only a working prototype, I feel like most designers would shorten that neck length for the very reason you mention.

Makes sense. It is a prototype and Felix is putting these together by hand--making smaller components with tight tolerances would no doubt drive up his cost to the point where he could not keep it affordable. I wish I had half a million to invest, I'd back him.

How do you get one​@@archeryuniverse

@@stevestroop6522 Thank you for watching. You can reach out to Mr Estrada through his web page or Facebook page. Both links are in the description. He is selling them, but keep in mind it will be a working prototype just like the one I have.

@@michaelpoplawski3246 Hi Michael, I'm looking for a partner(s) to Flip this. I beleive that in the right association we can put the bulk of the capitaol in advertising, R&D, and prove that This product is the first to offer what no other device has yet to do. We're selling ARCERY.

Thank you for watching. You can reach out to Mr Estrada through his web page or Facebook page. Both links are in the description. He is selling them but keep in mind it will be a working prototype just like the one I have.

Thanks for watching, I agree 100% that's why I mentioned in the video this would be an instant transition for hinge shooters that relax the index finger. Just another option for those of us that like to have a lot of toys. Hopefully someday well see it refined and readily available.

Thanks for watching. I honestly have not shot it enough to make that conclusion, with this being a prototype the finish work on the release is not to a level that I would put thousands of shots through my tournament bow with it. With that said, once the design work is completed it is the first release I have shot that made me feel like it could replace my hinge (I've been shooting the same Scott hinge for more than 10 years).

Which is what made it intuitive, however rotation is what activates a hinge not the index finger.

Thanks for watching I agree many people shoot a hinge by relaxing the index finger. As I mentioned in the video these people would shoot this release really well with a very short learning curve.

Does that mean you don't enjoy using your fingers on the string? I think I know what you mean by a wrist supported index finger release. It's pretty good but my fingers are too short for those releases. I find myself applying torque to the handle of the release.

@@LoreFoundry When its my fingers on the string it is different because i am not trying to retain a device at the release of the string.

Relaxing a muscle into a shot it likely more accurate and consistent than tensioning a muscle or group of muscles to set off a trigger or sear.

Most shoot a thumb button with the same idea. Your grip naturally loosing from fatigue as you pull through your shot.

If you’re shooting a thumb button style release correctly, you’re practicing “relaxing” your hand to get a “surprise” release. It’s pretty common.

Thanks for watching, I sent a link to Brian as soon as I posted the video!

@@archeryuniverse Thinking an adjustable wrist strap/short throat version would be in high demand!

@@RWTupper I agree 100% he did send a wrist strap with it I just chose not to use it. B3 could do great things with this concept.

Thanks for watching, No argument here about the hinge being hard to beat. I've been shooting the same hinge for more than 10 years. This release is the first one I've tried that made me think it could replace my hinge. It still needs work and is a long way from being complete but the concept is there

For prey?

@JackGFriend I assume you intend "prey" to mean a live game target as distinct from a static bulls eye target. If so, then my opinion applies to both, although I would add that in the case of live game, there is the additional prospect of unintentionally releasing the arrow in such a manner to cause a non-fatal point of impact causing inhumane animal suffering.

Yeah, prey is far from a static bulls eye target unless you are putting in the work to train for live game as one should. I am curious how your background as a design engineer and experienced compound bow hunter brings you to the conclusion that this "prototype" is unacceptably dangerous? Is it because it is new and uses a different pressure than is the standard for your experience? I like innovation and think this is more than acceptable to explore and am happy there is innovation for us all to test and maybe it will fit someone better than it fits for someone like yourself. On the other hand, I may hate it if i ever try it. I do like supporting innovation and I think it is good for all of us that enjoy archery. Just my thoughts. Take care.

@JackGFriend Particularly when actually hunting, it is quite common to come to full draw and hold in anticipation of the animal coming into clear range and/ or presenting the optimum heart/lung window of intended point of impact. Sometimes the duration of the hold is much longer than first anticipated and even then, a let down from full draw, without the kill shot release being able to be made happens quite often. In those circumstances, any unintended reduction in grip pressure would cause the arrow to be fired in an unexpected and uncontrolled manner .... obviously very dangerous. While there are of course several different globally circulated types of release designs, those incorporating thumb or index finger triggers which retain the d- loop until the trigger is intentionally depressed, are thereby innately safe as they cannot release simply through lack of attention to grip.

​@@willshuntingnah, loads of people hunt and shoot target with hinge releases and tension activated releases. You learn to run them and it's not an issue. I'll regularly let down my hinge even after it's past the click.

I will definitely admit the first few draws I was a little nervous myself lol

Thanks for watching, I actually agree about a hinge. When I teach people to shoot a hinge I teach that if you only pull you could pull the axles out of the limbs and the release won’t go off. It has to rotate. I actually mentioned Cascade and a couple others that have made relax type releases. In the video. What sets this release apart is Mr Estradas patented mechanism. Hopefully someone will take it and refine it then bring it to the industry. Thanks again for watching and taking time to comment.

My slogan is "Release Tha Release!"

Joe Rogan would definitely like it.

Nope. More of a resistance release (think Carter evolution) set to hot

​@@ccleadge but still the same hand movement as shooting a thumb button or hinge by just keeping your other fingers in place and relaxing your index finger.

@@stick__shooter sorry no my bad, evolution is relax the thumb then pull through the shot.

​​@@stick__shooterAlso there should be next to no hand movement when the shot activates, other then through the shot also your index finger shouldn't change position it's the one finger which has 0 input on a release.

I hear what you’re saying. But were it not for Chinese knock-offs, I’d never have been able to justify taking up the hobby. I hope one day, to be able to afford a first class, American made compound bow that gives me a 32” draw length.

@@larshowen3319 there are options, these companies show up at the ATA and photograph/scan products from American manufacturers then under sell them on Amazon. When mom and pop shops start going away you guys buying salindas can always send your bows to China to get them tuned.