Indecent exposure? This poor woman had to give birth in front of a crowd showing her inner parts. Talk about isn't life strange.

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She’s actually wearing a chemise a la reine (called such after she popularized it) dress. She’s not just in a chemise, but a dress inspired by the look of them, which is why it’s so fancy (and not plain)! She would still be wearing a normal chemise under it :)

a note about "Muslin". TODAY the term means a very poor quality cotton (or not) fabric, often used to make trial garments, or ... cheap things. that is NOT what the term meant then: Muslin was a very very fine cotton fabric, something closer to what we might call handkerchief linen, or "lawn".

I really loved to see you talk about a painting done by a female artist! I'd really love to hear you talk about other female artists, such as Artemisia Gentileschi

I love a supportive dad, especially back in the day, when it was usual to ignore any talent in your daughter.

Actually muslin isn't a type of cotton. You can have silk muslin, too, for instance. The specific muslin fabric in the painting may have been cotton muslin, but muslin is more a type of lightweight, semi-sheer, loosely woven and slightly coarser weave fabric. Cotton muslin is the most common type of muslin, but it is not the only type. Just like you can have silk velvet, rayon velvet, cotton velvet, etc. muslin can be made out of different fibers.

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Wait, the real muslin, the one from that special type of cotton (Phuti carpus), was INSANELY expensive (from BBC article "The ancient fabric that no one knows how to make": "At the time, a yard of Dhaka muslin fetched prices ranging from £50-400, according to Islam - equivalent to roughly £7,000-56,000 today. Even the best silk was up to 26 times less expensive."). Let me repeat: A YARD of this fabric's price was £7,000-56,000 of today's many! So it couldn't be that the queen was wearing something cheap... EDIT: This type of cotton has SHORT fibers= is NOT suitable for machine processing! So this is why this plant nearly went extinct...

That 10 minute video could be a whole movie.

I was put off by the inexpensive fabric statement. Muslin cost wayyyy more than silk -- in modern money, up to about $56,000 per garment. It was an incredibly exclusive fabric used only by royalty until England started making a knock off version during the industrial revolution. It was so complicated to make and so exclusive that it disappeared altogether when it couldn't compete with the knock off. Muslin no longer exists for that reason.

Wait? They were thinking about abolishing slavery in the 1770s? Damn you American Education System! Now I gotta do my own research again…

Marie Antoinette is like the it girl of high school in history, a lot of people like her and a lot of people hate her

I fell in love with Elisabeth Vigée Le Brun (or at least with her self-portrait) when I saw one (you flash it on the screen at 8:51) at the Kimbell Museum in Fort Worth, Texas. Of all the amazing paintings in this museum's permanent collection, I found the Le Brun self-portrait mesmerizing. I must have stood in front of it, visually drinking it in, for 15 to 20 minutes. I literally did not want to stop viewing it. Like most great visual art, reproductions don't do it justice, robbing it of its vitality. Of all the pieces at that museum, I would want that one to take home with me. richard -- Oscar Wilde: "I wish I had said that" James McNeill Whistler: "You will, Oscar, you will."

What a twist!! Did not see that coming!! Fascinating story. ❤

Le Brun’s style is so beautiful, her work has a warmth and life to it that I can’t look away from! As you said, she put her subjects at ease so they just seem more lively and like themselves in the paintings💖

Marie Antoinette is THAT GIRL of the 18th century. Such a queen.

The claims in the video, like the article it was presumably based on, requires us to ignore everything else related to cotton demand and production and pretend that this singular portrait is the reason cotton was in demand, thus ensuring one of the staples of the American slave trade was kept in demand. It's a very simplistic, "plug your ears and pretend nothing else is happening" sort of view. The garment is not called a "chemise." Chemises (undergarments) are different than "chemise gowns," also known as muslin gowns, chemise a la reine, gaulles, and a number of other monikers. Women wore actual chemises and other underclothing underneath chemise gowns. Marie Antoinette was not posing in her underwear, she was posing in an existing informal style that was popular among women for their informal clothing intended for wear at home or in private settings. The issue with Marie Antoinette wearing the dress was multifaceted. She was criticized by contemporary art critics for wearing a gown "in public" (her portrait being displayed at the Salon was viewed as her being in public) that should be "reserved for the privacy of the palace." Meaning it was fine for her to wear it, but not in public view, which should have been treated as a formal court setting. Decades later, the artist wrote in her memoirs that people claimed she painted the queen in her undergarments. Contemporary criticisms of these gowns also related to a blurring of class barriers; non-aristocratic women wanted to wear them, and could wear them, allowing them to emulate what noblewomen were wearing which would not have been as possible (at least in terms of what aristocratic women wore in public) with court gowns. The fabric wore by the queen was not inexpensive cotton. Muslin and cheap cotton were not interchangeable, at all, and this is a critical fact. The criticism against the usage of muslin was not because it was cheap (it was not--it was notoriously expensive and had to be processed and laundered in very special, time consuming expensive ways) but because it was foreign and because it was related to a reduction in demand for silk. When women's fashion shifted away from expensive heavy silks for everyday fashions (with exceptions for formal robe a la francaise, which still had to be worn at certain court functions, but were no longer the fabric for dresses women typically wore out to the operas, balls, etc) this devastated the French silk industry. The industry blamed Marie Antoinette, because as she was the queen, she was blamed for just about everything. The situation was so bad that in 1785, Marie Antoinette swore to only wear "French gauzes," with Thomas Jefferson noting: "how many English looms will this put down?" It was not cotton fabric from North America, nor was it connected to the North Atlantic slave trade. It was connected to the exploitation of Indian workers, who were said to work in difficult conditions. The cotton gin was created in 1793... more than a decade after the portrait was created. The cotton gin was not used for muslins. The development of the cotton gin is not connected to the chemise muslin gown portrait, as that would require claiming that the reason for its development was muslin gowns that didn't use cotton that could be produced with the cotton gin. Other types of fashions using cotton were far more popular than the muslin gown worn in this portrait. Cotton was a vastly popular textile, and trying to pin its demand on this singular portrait, again, requires ignoring everything else that was involved in the demand for this textile. Which isn't a solid way to approach an historical topic. Like the article this was based on, the premise of this video ignores that cotton was already a popular fabric, and the boom in cotton demand and production was related to the existing demand for cotton growing exponentially during the 18th century. In the early 1770s, England removed restrictions on cotton import/export in the early 1770s, which made cotton more accessible for far more clothing styles than ever before. So when the shape of fashion began to change in the 1780s, with "English" gowns and less restrictive gowns becoming standard for everyday wear, this increased the demand for cotton. Cotton was popular before Marie Antoinette was painted in an existing fashion trend, and it would have been popular without this particular portrait. There is no reason to think that cotton would not have continued to dominate just because Marie Antoinette didn't have this portrait made, especially since the trend for these gowns already existed, and women were already beginning to venture into public with them. But of course, "Marie Antoinette's portrait sparked the slave trade, and it's all her fault that the American slave trade didn't magically disappear in the 1770s" is much better clickbait...

5:37 the way you said “what the f-“ in a nonchalant voice made me laugh 😂

I love your videos. I wait for it. And I'm watching the no. of views increasing in the real time...!!!

Excellent!! Thanks! I lecture on Elisabeth Vigée Le Brun as part of my French 18th-century painting gig, and I learned a lot about her and Marie Antoinette from your video!!!

Why is this one of my favorite channels? I know nothing about art and thought it would remain this way for the rest of my life. Now I find myself thinking about these videos often, with interest and cannot wait for the next one!

I'm from the southern U.S.A. I've picked cotton and worked in a cotton mill. Little did I know that there were so few degrees of separation between Marie Antoinette and me. 🙃

I feel sympathy for Marie Antoinette. I think she was a horrible queen and even worse politician, but I have to admire her care for her children, biological and adopted. When the Jacobins accused her of abusing her son, she fought back and appealed to the women of France, asking if they really thought her so heartless she would inflict that on her children (ironically, her son Louis "XVII" was abused and murdered at the hands of the revolutionaries when he was 10, years after Marie died). The famous "let them eat cake" was almost certainly never said by her, and if it was, it was probably more like "If they're starving that badly, shouldn't we give them some of the good stuff?". And then her reputed speech when she was sentenced to death - *_"In my defense! Nothing. For your scruples! Much. I was a queen, and you dethroned me. I was a wife, and you killed my husband. I was a mother, and you tore me from my children. Only my blood remains: you are thirsty. Drink it. Hasten to meet it that you may drink it."_* Oh, and her last words were apologizing to her executioner because she accidentally stepped on his feet when she was climbing the scaffold. Literally everything about her life has many, many layers, and so many of those layers are completely awful to analyze. I'm not saying she was this innocent saint - she was probably partly responsible for France's bankruptcy through her ridiculous extravagance and was right beside Louis XVI when he was making his own terrible decisions, but I tend to look on her a little more favorably than on the other people involved in the first revolution.

Marvelous! ..the details, the dash of humor and the big plot twist...mind blown and always edutained!! Thank you so much again!!

You have further educated a person who, prior, only received a scant drop of info on this. Thank you!

2:22 this guy had all the names

I think its beautiful that the queen bared herself physically and emotionally for her subjects in this portrait. At this point it was probably established that she was allegedly spending her country into ruin with her lavish shopping trips parties and finery so this would make people upset because it went starkly against those accusations for her to be donning a simple garment for a portrait.

Thank for another excellent program. The back story of this painting is fascinating. I never would have guessed that a simple painting would tie into the political economy of cotton and slavery in the US.

Marie Antoinette couldn't get a break! ❤❤❤

C O N T R O V E R S I A L. OH. MY🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨🎨 Art Deco You've done it again, as we've come to expect. You've dragged me down the Time Tunnel some 241 years to life in 1783. The brush stroke felt around the world. It's amazing the consequences of such a painting. Both Marie & Elizabeth were 28 years old at the time...perhaps this is why they got along so well. 💜💜💜art deco💜💜💜

Wasn’t aware of Elizabeth Vigee Le Brun. Beautiful and talented. Sounds like she had an amazing life. To live til 86 would have been a rarity in those days. Ty AD. ❤the channel.

I thought you were going to say that Elisabeth was a serial killer - oh, well, maybe next time. Another great video - thanks for brightening my week and a few other people by the looks of it! 😍❤

These just keep getting better and better. Thanks ❤️

I’m about to make a part of my thesis about french revolution, thanks for this video. just on point

Thanks for the video! Your channel is so informative and interesting!

I adore your work, the fact that you incorporate history to every aspect of it and even go as deep as other subjects is extremely appreciated. ♡

Wow! Never expect paintings of the "influencers" before can affect the lives of the other continent. I really loved your content. Keep up the great works!

I love this. The narration is so pleasant and ASMR. It’s also really informative.

Girl I love you and your videos, it just lights up my day to see you posted 💕

Can't wait until you post again!

Wow! Love your videos. Thank you for always providing such insight into not only into art and history but showing the passion. Have a great day!

One of the best videos I have ever seen. That is a real class!

Except this was before the invention of the cotton gin and Indian Muslin was 25 times more expensive than silk at the time of the portrait.

I love this channel, I am always waiting for a new video to come out!!

All of this was very interesting. Thank you.

I love this channel and appreciate all the insight given to each painting. This video is especially interesting since I knew nothing of the artist.

its been years since i havent watched her channel, ITS SO GOOD WATCHING IT ONCE AGAIN

That needle drop sound effect that you use in everyone of your videos never gets old.

Absolutely love it when one of your videos shows up in my subscription feed. This lady, Elisabeth Vigée Le Brun, had a life that from the little you've told us makes me admire her greatly above and beyond her beautiful paintings

I swear to god, I haven't been getting your videos in my sub box. I thought you took a break for a few months. I'll definitely hit that notification bell now.

I absolutely love your channel. You give such indepth examination of each topic. I found this particularly fascinating, linking cotton demand on France to the South and affects a b slavery!!! What a history lesson, as well as revealing the interconnectedness of all aspects. Amazing commentary😊

Fascinating video! Really appreciate the research you do. ❤

Brilliant bit of art history here. Thank you for sharing it.

Another painting! Thank you so much!

My 11 yr old daughter loves this series of art history videos. Her current favorites! (She's hoping g there's a new one to enjoy around her birthday on July 30th). Thanks for such interesting content!

Fascinating, as always. Thank you.

Wow! What a story😳 I wonder whose idea it was to pose in the cotton chemise? It's the butterfly effect enacted 🤯

This is a very good channel, one of the best at accurately explaining art history and I honestly love it ❤ I must ask however, if you can push out new videos quicker, and I do realize you have work etc, but I personally think this fanbase has the potential to grow, as I got interested in it only a few months ago, and I have now watched all your videos. Great job!

She painted so much life into eyes. It’s mesmerizing.

Interested and entertaining as well as informative. Thanks

I would really love to learn more about this artist! Thank you!!!

This is honestly such an amazing channel

Saturday just got brighter Art Deco posted.

Could you do The Acrobatics?? I just learned about this painting!! Love your videos!!

First video of yours I’ve seen, and subscribed not even 30 seconds in.

👏💯💐💝🥳I love your videos so much you're so good.❤❤ I get so excited every time I see a new one posted.❤❤ I love the art humor you add it's fantastic bravo.

I so enjoy your videos. We never learned a lot of this in art school.

French society was so debauched then it is almost laughable that this picture is considered scandalis

Just Beautiful ❤, the model, the painter and the story.

My mind is blown again. The facts about the artist were most interesting. I love you and your work.

I've always liked Elizabeth Vigee Lebrun since I first saw her paintings in London, but I didn't know anything much about her.

Thanks!

This chemise style of dress was so popularized by the Queen’s portrait that the technical term we most often use to describe it today is the Chemise á la Reine; the “Queen’s Chemise/Chemise in the Style of the Queen”. I’m not certain but I believe I recall that term being used in the period as well!

Fascinating as always

Studies Artemisias work for art history class! Was really cool to learn and love seeing you post about her!

Impressive video essay and quirky humor! ❤

Always love your videos! ❤❤❤❤

Could you please cover Bélizaire and the Frey children,it's such an interesting piece

I always know it’s gonna be a good day when you post keep up the good work!! ❤❤✨✨ - I have a painting recommendation ( The Great Conemaugh-Valley Disaster - Flood and Fire a Jhonstown pa ) - By Kurz and Allison

Could you please do some on Raja Ravi Verma paintings? You are so so insightful in your explanation - I really resonate with the way you think and express your take on paintings. It would be very interesting if you could do at least one video on Raja Ravi Verma’s paintings. 🙏🏽❤️

I just watched a video about Dhaka Muslin, which was 30-40x more expensive than the finest silk at that time. The strain of cotton they used went extinct & the craft of making the 1200-1300 thread count muslin was lost to time. ✌🏼

Amazing presentation, as always 😊👍

Can you do Salomes Dance by Leopold, Ivan the terrible and his son ivan, Isabella and the pot of basil, or Kriemhild accusation? Love your vids btw❤

Can I suggest that you add where the piece currently can be viewed? then you could even tag the name of the museum, develop playlists of art pieces in Metropolitan Museum of Art in NYC for example. This would increase your views and be a valuable resource for those planning a trip to a specific museum.

Elizabeth Vigée Le Brun was an amazing artist. I wish she was better known.

The issue people really had was that Marie Antoinette was cosplaying poor while the actual poor and middle class were actively starving in the streets. Le Petit Trianon was a small town that hired people to run it whenever she gave notice to visit like Disney Land. They would stuff it with flowers, bathe the livestock and put ribbons on them, and would pre-harvest fruits and veggies but place them in such a way that the queen could feel like she’s doing something without the strain of actually doing something. Once this is understood the “let them eat cake” thing makes more sense and why the people felt she had to go.

actually, the chemise gown was a style worn in the French colonies in the caribbean, worn because of the heat of the land!!

Keep up the great work!

Interesting content!

These also look like Dutchess of devonshive Georgiana Cavendish by Gainsborough ? Is there a link or just the fashion pose at the time?

Thank you.

The artist and the queen were rOommATeS.

Thank you, AD. What an amazing artist. So glad she achieved success in her lifetime. Very interesting history.

Excellent video ❤

Vigée Le Brun is such an underrated successful artist, people looked at her works because of the fact she painted an important person, but a few only paid attention into her skills and artistic potency. The way she made people younger and bloomy, while making it so it doesn’t stir away from their actual features, she made Marie Antoinette beautiful, charismatic and pleasant for the average french person. Le Brun basically made her marketable and likeable for french people at a good solid time before tragedy happened She was the everyday artist of her time, that had a chance of a temporary spot light

Another great video!!!

One of your best!

I love these videos. A bit of a chronological disconnect cotton gin 1794. Queen beheaded 1793. Maybe I missed something? I’ll watch again on a big screen.

2:48 “and they would sing together”