This Son Won't Let His Dad Be Saved

This Son Won't Let His Dad Be Saved | Chicago Med

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Dr. Choi (Brian Tee) and Dr. Rhodes (Colin Donnell) work on an elderly man who is discovered to be very ill, but a conflict in how to best treat him develops between his son and his young girlfriend.
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@kattd7524 11 ай бұрын

This is where nursing is super important. We can and should advocate for our patients. I can't count how many times I stood up for my patients actual wishes against families and doctors with inflatated egos, even if it meant life or death.

@themakerstoolbox9688 6 ай бұрын

True but in this case prolonging life can be up for debate whether it is the right thing to do. Dementia is terrifying and horrible to experience for the patient. The moments of clarity that sometimes come can be soul crushing to these patients. You have to also balance whether prolonging life will help or just lead to more suffering. In this case I think it is the latter.

@butterflygirlks 4 ай бұрын

Advocate for a demented patient who can’t remember what he asked 5 seconds ago? Nor can understand any of the decisions he’s making? That’s cruel; nurses are supposed to HELP patients, not prolong suffering. That is ridiculous

@leahthomas3879 11 ай бұрын

this highlights the importance of a personal health care directive in the event of cases like this and what the wishes of the person is.

@alisonfraser8231 10 ай бұрын

I heard “leave me”. If that is his wish, he should have the documents.

@thetissuebandit5815 11 ай бұрын

As someone who works with people with dementia everyday I'm 100% on the sons side, this man has no quality of life and I can almost guarantee he'd wish he was dead if he could even understand what was happening to him

@becky2235 11 ай бұрын

Its a horrible disease i pray and hope they find a cure

@8bennaboo 11 ай бұрын

And the patient does not seem capable of making an informed decision either way.

@thisisreallyverysilly 10 ай бұрын

This is something that people only ever see in hindsight, sadly, because our medical system is incapable of being honest with relatives and is incentivized to make these stupid decisions. In no rational world does it make sense to devote significant medical resources to a guy like this. And I have lived through this with my father who lived for four miserable years in a care facility until cancer killed him. And doctors were still pushing for us to operate on him. I guarantee none of you reading this want to ever end up in a care facility like my father did and we chose the best one. You don't even want to know a) what it cost b) what the lesser options looked like.

@brontewcat 10 ай бұрын

He sounded pretty lucid at the very end to me. He had a young woman, and was enjoying the fact. He sounded like he some quality of life.

@8bennaboo 10 ай бұрын

@@brontewcat With dementia you can have lucid moments, but that does not necessarily translate to quality of life. if someone is lucid and capable of making the decision, then they should do so. If they are not, then they are not.

@welcometogreenaquasglen1846 11 ай бұрын

What if the younger woman had been his daughter? If Mr. Hall's son and daughter disagreed about his treatment, which one would have the final say?

@krisstevens8509 11 ай бұрын

Similarly to divorced parents disagreeing on a decision involving their child there would usually be an unbiased mediator brought in that would collect all the facts and make the decision for them based on the individuals best interests. This would only be the case here if both or neither sibling was given the complete legal rights as a decision maker for their father

@charlamalan2747 10 ай бұрын

"next of kin" = oldest

@renomiz2373 10 ай бұрын

@@charlamalan2747 Next of kin is your closest relatives by blood or law. It goes to all children unless specifically stated in a will and testament.

@Yoru-el5zg 8 ай бұрын

@@renomiz2373actually theres a very diversed way of dealing with cases like these depending on where you live

@jazzycat8917 4 ай бұрын

@@charlamalan2747 Thats not what that means. We;re talking about right to medical authority, not medieval inheritance. Age has nothing to do with next of kin law, its simply the closest relative by blood/law, and in the case of it passing to children making decision for a parent is shared evenly between all children aged over 18.

@andyt2k 10 ай бұрын

"My job is to do whatever it takes to keep my patient alive" - No it's not, you have to respect the patients wishes and improve quality of life and not try and bully an old man into doing what you want. The doctors in this show are terrible, this is just one of many examples of medical malpractice, assault etc

@inwit594 4 ай бұрын

Assisted suicide/assisted death is a controversal topic. Some people outright reject the idea that death is mercy. The real question, to me, is when does life become so bad that death is better? I'm not discounting it as an option, but things would have to be dire.

@shy_anne666 3 ай бұрын

But they cant allow to let a Patient die , I mean why Are they saving suicidal people then , it is their Job to Save them , you cant just say : let me die , its Not bullying I mean I dont know exactly but I am Not Sure if a Patient can decide to die

@lisi1732 11 ай бұрын

he said „leave me“

@bonD6002 11 ай бұрын

I heard an S

@arozYO 11 ай бұрын

I heard a s to

@K.B98 11 ай бұрын

Heard leave

@Nedread 10 ай бұрын

I heard 'leave', too.

@dogstorme9333 7 ай бұрын

I heard leave

@adinag9750 5 ай бұрын

I can only imagine how stressful and upsetting it is to doctors when a dying person begs them to save their life, but there's a piece of paper saying the doctors can't help them. Even though that paper was sighed by the patient before they lost their mind, it's still a very f-ed up to go through. Still, they should honor the paper the patient sighed as their last wish when they were of mind.

@ngelica985 2 ай бұрын

one thing i hate is when they say “ my job is to save life’s “. that doesn’t mean that all lives want to be saved . ethically we must follow the patients wishes . no matter how hard it is to admit

@Willow-fk4kp Ай бұрын

If he didn’t want be saved he can k himself later..

@annaalestra4263 Ай бұрын

So you end up I jail for you believes ? Beacuse its euthanasia

@ZEUSCLAPZ 11 ай бұрын

*Your Chinese *- 😂😂😂😂😂

@butterflygirlks 6 ай бұрын

That man did not have decision making capacity and the surgery was completely illegal

@BlastFromThePastTheGoodOldDays 6 ай бұрын

I heard the guy saying leave me leave me, I think Choi also heard Leave me but because that didn't align with Choi's beliefs and wants he lied and said it was save me. it was why he asked April if she heard what the guy said

@noahjay1996 11 ай бұрын

Keep up the amazing work😊

@sweetdoll6641 9 ай бұрын

5:58 nooo now the water is rolling down to his elbows!!! 😂🤦🏻‍♀

@rymacreeks2k07 7 ай бұрын

sees a chinese guy and instantly thinks about the great wall LMFAOOO

@EZ-D-FIANT 4 ай бұрын

This was clever, Im pretty sure they ran a filter when he spoke, specifically an S in a frequency only some of us hear correctly, so some of us heard leave me and some heard save me. 👍👌👍

@Bananasplitsssz 6 ай бұрын

A lot of you clearly need a lesson on dementia All patients respond differently to dementia, some are fine and lead happy lives while experiencing it, others lead depressive, cruel and lonely existence. Dementia causes memory loss and memory issues, again, many people live a happy life with dementia, but at a certain age it becomes to much, you don’t remember your children names or faces, you mistake people for your deceased partners , parents or siblings only to be reminded that they are long gone causing many people to go through mourning all over again. Let alone physical issues like heart, bone and joint problems. Nobody wants to watch the old man die, but sometimes life just isn’t worth the suffering. He can’t make cognitive decisions due to his worsened condition and lack of awkwardness. Doing the surgery will keep him alive, but he won’t be living.

@LilyGrace95 5 күн бұрын

I agree. It took 15 years to kill my granddad, and in that time he had every symptom you can imagine; memory problems, joint problems, the angry phase, the inappropriate phase, the overly happy and joyful phase, slowly (quickly in some cases) forgetting everyone, the lack of mobility, respiratory and cardiovascular problems... I could go on. For the last 3-4 years of his life, he was bedridden 24/7, sleeping probably 23hrs a day, with no concept of anything or anyone (except for my grandma, who he always had a smile for 🥹). By that point, we all wished euthanasia was legal in my country, even my grandma in the end. It sounds so callous, but sometimes letting someone go really is in the best interests of everyone, especially the poor person who loses their autonomy and their dignity.

@hinataharuna2890 11 ай бұрын

"You're Chinese I saw the great wall" -Wise words

@kgothatsokganyago1191 10 ай бұрын

For Dr Reese and Dr Rhodes to return 😭even Dr Latham

@ameliaflynnhayes 10 ай бұрын

Being caught between your girlfriend and your son. When you are caught between life and death.

@inwit594 4 ай бұрын

To be honest, I wouldn't want to be alive if I had dementia or anything that takes the 'you' out of you. But sometimes, dying isn't the answer. It really depends on how dire the circumstances are and if you (the person making the decision) are able to rationally weigh the price of your own life. It's awful.

@hunterthejokethegamerandst5567 11 ай бұрын

I’m no expert but one comment said that the Son was right. Idk why but maybe he is. But then again, he might also be in the wrong. I haven’t seen this episode so don’t know the full story. Someone plz explain. and in my opinion, he seems a little controlling to me.

@ewazagroba1818 11 ай бұрын

He was not. He simply respect his father's wishes. Did u ever cared for a person with dementia? If you did you would not have said that.

@hunterthejokethegamerandst5567 11 ай бұрын

@@ewazagroba1818 okay okay. No offence. Sounds a little rude but i get what you’re saying. Thanks for explaining.

@brontewcat 10 ай бұрын

I agree with your first comment. The son was over the top,man I was completely uncomfortable with his attitude. No matter what his father had said before, I am not sure his father wanted to die an uncomfortable death which not treating the tumour would cause.

@Lynn-gh9fb 3 ай бұрын

@@brontewcat Completely agree. My grandparents made the agreement that if one shouldn't be able to have a proper life then they would get euthanised. When the moment came to ask the question for my grandad if he wanted to go (he had a stroke and half of his body couldn't move, he couldn't speak) and he blinked his eyes twice to say no

@bigraymie 10 ай бұрын

Was that old man Captain Farillo out of Hill St Blues 🤔

@sweetdoll6641 9 ай бұрын

i love doctor choi 🥺

@hazbrn 6 ай бұрын

So unprofessional

@AlexisStreams 11 ай бұрын

i heard save me too

@weavercs4014 11 ай бұрын

no you didn't. He said leave me

@sargon0141 11 ай бұрын

He actually said 'leave me'. Besides, it is beyond the point. If he has dementia, he should have a legal guardian established which can make decisions for his care (it does not have to be his son).

@AlexisStreams 11 ай бұрын

@@weavercs4014how do you know what i heard, i heard save me

@AlexisStreams 11 ай бұрын

@@sargon0141 that's not what i heard, i heard save me

@MysticClaws100 11 ай бұрын

Idk how you could've even heard save me from that

@JRHainsworth 3 ай бұрын

Dr Choi never took the Gravytrain with him :(

@theyisonegodAllah 10 ай бұрын

💜

@rafaelalbertocayuela8661 11 ай бұрын

🤔 If I didn’t know better, I would think that guy wanted to kill his own father.

@xenalovesares 11 ай бұрын

How? Thr father told the son when he was still in his right mind he didn't want to live like that noe have ant surgary etc. The son loves him and wants what his Dad wanted. The women only wants money. How is lettkng him go wanting to kill him? My Mum has told us that she would never want to live like this nor on life support so if she ever ends up on it and we turn it off does that mean we want to kill her? Or does it mean we are respecting her previous wishes? Think about it.

@kalitheamare 11 ай бұрын

Probably sought his Inheritance before the young woman delapilated it in life

@ninawozniak82 10 ай бұрын

Same like

@sofiamastroiacovo7441 10 ай бұрын

I disagreed with the son he doesn't know what mr wall needs. The son wants to confused treatment for his father. Son and father conversation talk about do you want that heart surgery. I am totally agree with the daughter she knows exactly his dad needs.

@vvoof2601 10 ай бұрын

No unfortunately with dementia/Alzheimer's patients when it gets to this level they are not cognizant enough to make informed decisions, that's why the son and not the girlfriend (not daughter, said so herself in the clip) has the legal right to make that call. Disagree with the writers if you want, however, that's the current law for you.

@KororinaMorrell 5 күн бұрын

It was his partner not daughter

@LilyGrace95 5 күн бұрын

It wasn't his daughter, it was his girlfriend. And when it comes to dementia, the vast majority of people would rather die quickly than slowly degrade. I should know, it runs in my family. And it took 15 years to take my granddad. Right now it's taking my grandma's sister. My mum has made it clear that if she's diagnosed, she wants to go before she's too far gone. These are conversations EVERYONE with a dementia/Alzh diagnosis has. And it IS all-encompassing - every surgery, every treatment, every procedure isn't about life and death, it's about ending it now, or enduring the pain for longer. Most choose the former.

@shankarraveendran8385 2 ай бұрын

Legally the desicion would come to the wife then adult children. this its pretty inaccurate

@hannahwinterhalder741 2 ай бұрын

I think she is hsi gorlfruenf not wife

@Demon10_1 3 ай бұрын

@feanedhell 3 ай бұрын

Choi should have been fired. Absolutely disgusting behaviour.

@SarahJane-nw8qy 11 ай бұрын

That's just wrong letting him die like no one cares if if son wants him dead he just wants the will just save him and u can't let him die u are a hospital u don't let u patents die

@zilesis1 11 ай бұрын

you do if they want to die lots of people have DNR orders legal documents telling their families not to keep them on life support. lots of advanced cancer patients chose not to have treatment and just spend what little time they have with their families instead of suffering through chemo if the son is telling the truth and his dad really did tell him before that he did not want to be saved, then the son is right and the hospital needs to respect the man's wishes

@vvoof2601 10 ай бұрын

Wow are we ever ignorant!

@ottokarl5427 Ай бұрын

Seems more like it is implied that the girlfriend is wanting him alive to keep on spending the money, though she isn't in the testament. Meaning if she dies, she won't get anything

@lillyquadrobics 11 ай бұрын

IM EARLY!!!!!

@jamesdick2580 11 ай бұрын

wow, real big achievement.

@vvoof2601 10 ай бұрын

One pump chump

@EPICRAGE1000 2 ай бұрын

dr choi is the most unethical doctor out of any tv show ive ever seen and hes portrayed as a saint... Such a stupid show

@HulklingsBoyfriend 11 ай бұрын

Son should sue the hospital into oblivion.

@buffya8012 11 ай бұрын

Why? Cos daddy didn’t die and leave him the huge inheritance? The son doesn’t care about his father whatsoever just the money he’s going to get when he dies…dementia or not still better than dead…besides I have a feeling the sons making it seem like he’s worse than he is…if he was that bad he wouldn’t have been able to recognize his girlfriend,let alone talk about her

@vikingr246 11 ай бұрын

@buffya8012 "dementia or not better than dead"? Okay, you have clearly never met someone with dementia. It is nothing but suffering. You wouldn't want to live like that, sometimes dead is better.

@vvoof2601 10 ай бұрын

@@buffya8012 I hope with all my heart you never discover how wrong you are. May your life forever allow you to think this way.

@buffya8012 10 ай бұрын

@@vikingr246 my Grandmother had it actually,and I’m pretty sure she didn’t want to die…and it’s not nothing but suffering,she was not suffering in the least,she just needed to be loved and cared for,not hidden away…and no I don’t believe anyone is better off dead

@Mitzi-chan224 9 ай бұрын

'Murica