This table saw trick may FINALLY end dado blades

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@CP-mb7ly Жыл бұрын

I'm just grateful there are teachers like you out there!

@dporrasxtremeLS3 Жыл бұрын

Very Well Stated! Thanks Stumpy Nubs!

@brucehansen7949 3 ай бұрын

Stumpy nubs is a genius

@kholdanstaalstorm6881 Жыл бұрын

I'm speechless... It's so simple and easy, truly a "why didn't I figure that out" moment... I literally facepalmed from It's straightforward simplicity. But this is a perfect example of what we get from Stumpy Nubs, tips and tricks that are so elegant and easy to replicate because of the accompanying commentary and visuals!

@mrz80 Жыл бұрын

Yeah. "A shim the width of the sawblade." That's so blindingly obvious once you've seen it. Why hasn't EVERYONE figured this out by now? :D :D THANK you, James, for sharing this.

@valvenator Жыл бұрын

Simple yet brilliant, plus a huge time, space and money saver since you don't need to spend 💵💸 and storage space on specialized tools. Stumpy definitely deserves two 👍👍 for this one.

@taylormcintyre5759 Жыл бұрын

Oh my god. Definitely a head slap moment

@Rukkus333 Жыл бұрын

It's funny how obvious things can be after you see them.

@JoeMac1983 Жыл бұрын

Agree.

@amauryrodriguez477 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant, Simple, Sexy!

@scottmessina9435 Жыл бұрын

Genius.

@woodstover Жыл бұрын

Now I just have to remember the trick when I need it 😆

@thefrogking481 Жыл бұрын

Good video. Those of us who were too broke to buy stacked dado blades have done it this way for years. Poverty, the driving force behind invention. Good stuff, brother.

@MichaelCampbell01 Жыл бұрын

Broke or not, just changing and fidgeting with a dado stack is so irritating. When you might need a BUNCH of them in a batch it's worth it, but for the onesy twosy, nope.

@eloscuro704 Жыл бұрын

@@MichaelCampbell01 I actually have a nice dado set, but you are right. Setting it up and fiddling with is a pain. If I have to do something like 50 dadoes, then yes. But most projects, I'm going to just use this.

@elvinhaak Жыл бұрын

Here we cannot even access stacked blades (officially), yes Netherlands.

@AxGryndr Жыл бұрын

To make this work the best you can use a blade with a flat raker tooth. Most tablesaw blades use alternating tooth bevels (ATB) which will leave the bottom of the dado with a handful of VVV that need to be cleaned up with a chisel where the raker tooth blade will produce a flat bottom like a dado stack.

@StoneyMeyerhoeffer Жыл бұрын

I use a box joint grind from Forrest. Works great.

@jimweisgram9185 Жыл бұрын

I have a couple of those but since I have a router plane, I can clean the bottom of each dado in about 30 seconds. Zip zip fine tune, zip zip zip and on to the next ones. Of course I do need to sharpen that blade now and then

@TheCyberMantis Жыл бұрын

Nah. The VVV is great for holding glue. Think of it as glue-channels.

@sjsomething4936 11 ай бұрын

I e used a less effective way of doing this for awhile, for “cleanup” of the middle I do a few passes to remote majority of the unneeded material and then a router to finish up, i have much less concern about the router biting, causing a dangerous situation due to an excessive amount of material being removed it does a great job of cleaning the groove.

@dores893 9 ай бұрын

Exactly! And, if you have a sawstop, good luck finding a flat blade! I haven't found one yet, but I'll keep looking.

@twizzlerboy Жыл бұрын

Best woodworking tip I've seen in a long time!

@christopherdean1326 Ай бұрын

That's really neat! Now, all I have to do is remember it when I get back to my workshop!

@nicolascomesse7432 Жыл бұрын

As you probably know, dado blades are uncommon if not illegal in Europe, where many of us have used this technique for years. Great that it made it's way all the way to the other side of the pond!

@JohnDoe-nl5mf Жыл бұрын

Why are they illegal?

@jonathanbuzzard1376 Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-nl5mf They are not illegal but as a consequence of EU Safety legislation, they are tricky to legally implement. The legislation says that the saw blade must stop within a certain time after it is turned off. I am not sure what that is but it is quite quick. This is usually done with an electric brake on the motor. There are two issues. The first is that with the mass of a dado blade, stopping it that quickly would cause the nut holding the blade onto the spindle to come loose apparently. I have no idea if that is actually true but I can imagine it is. It could be solved with some sort of quick change mechanism that didn't rely on a nut but that would be more expensive. The second is you now need a more complex and hence expensive braking mechanism that can detect and compensate for the increased rotational inertia when a dado blade is fitted, to stop it in the required time. The simple solution for the manufacturers is to make the spindle too short to accept a dado and the problem is solved from their perspective.

@syninys100 Жыл бұрын

@@jonathanbuzzard1376 I'd note that this set of safety rules only applies for situations where an employer is hiring workers to use the employers saw. If you're the owner of the saw, then they do not apply. With that caveat, it does make more sense - you can do what you like, but when responsible for other peoples safety then there are more rules.

@Hashimo Жыл бұрын

As far as I know, it's also not recommended to use both stop fences at the same time.. due to kickback and so on.

@emm_arr Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-nl5mf A few reasons, one health reason being that dado blade injuries are much harder to treat.

@ericsiegal603 Жыл бұрын

You can do the same thing with a drill bit. Measure the thickness of your saw blade, and then use a bit of the same thickness as a spacer. Shaun Boyd has a great little video about this.

@williamellis8993 Жыл бұрын

You beat me to it. I was going to say the same thing.

@micschemelin663 Жыл бұрын

👍👏 Great, STRAIGHTFORWARD tip and thank you for always having a focus on safety!

@markanderson8066 Жыл бұрын

Or even a piece of bar stock or sheet metal or plastic as the spacer. Thanks Stumpy! Great stuff 👏

@baileythesleepless9966 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if you could use another sawblade as a spacer if you were desperate lmao

@ryanhirschey Жыл бұрын

I love the uncommon sense you bring to woodworking. Brilliant idea as always.

@sonnyaluzzo4788 Жыл бұрын

This was amazing. You know this was a "I can't believe I didn't think of it " moment. I can't add dados to my table saw. This is a game changer. Thanks.

@larrygardner53018 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful tip! Your careful video editing and straightforward explanation make it clear and succinct. Keep 'em coming!

@scottwilliams8636 Жыл бұрын

Great tip! Just when I think that every woodworking tip that could possibly be thought of has already been explained, you come up with another gem!

@MakerBoyOldBoy Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your continuing instruction in a calm manner. It's good to see the craft continuing to expand through the generations for the woodies. Good on ya.

@tonyjenkins7156 Жыл бұрын

I have avoided the table saw for years, but now see the benefit and got one. You might be the clearest explainer on KZfaq!

@BobHerres Жыл бұрын

Fantastic! James continues to be a "modern day woodworking pioneer!" Thank you !

@tttm99 Жыл бұрын

Whether you know the trick or not it's always a good one and your presentation is always fantastic. Simply the best KZfaq reference for woodworkers 👍

@BlindGrilling Жыл бұрын

Wow! Your explanations are always great. Since I’m blind, it is hard to find YT videos that explain things so well. Thanks again.

@araphelt Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the continued tips and short form videos to deliver the information without saying any more than necessary. Extremely useful channel.

@dannymurphy1779 Жыл бұрын

Thanks - you showed a lot more simply than in the other video I saw about this, actions speak louder than words!

@olddawgdreaming5715 Жыл бұрын

That's about the slickest idea I have seen in a while, THANKS James, can't wait to try it out. Stay safe and keep up the fun. Fred.

@MarkKelly1307 Жыл бұрын

As a new woodworker (at 55yrs old), I am amazed at all these tips and tricks. I really appreciate your style of "teaching". Thanks for the great video! I'll incorporate this soon. Cheers, Mark

@zS39SBT4fe5Zp8Q Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this! It's really encouraging to learn beginner friendly techniques.

@JerInCrik Жыл бұрын

I’ve now cut a dozen different dados like this - it works like a charm! What a time and frustration saver! Best tip I’ve learned in years! Thanks Stumpy!

@MrMarkpeggy Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great tip, James. You are so good at explaining things. I remember years ago that you made an amazing finger joint jig that was capable of doing dadeos.

@running_rich Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this, I'll use it a lot unless I have many dados to do at once. Hate dealing with the stacked dado blade.

@johnnyb95678 Жыл бұрын

GREAT TIP!!! Always appreciate your videos and learn something new almost every time.

@michaellacaria910 Жыл бұрын

I struggled many times how to mitigate that spacer thickness. You’re right the answer is so cool and simple… thanks for sharing. All I need now is a good flat top grind blade!

@LAP1050 4 ай бұрын

This one goes into the keeper drawer. Thank You!

@manyirons Жыл бұрын

You can save the shim step for all dadoes by using it to rip a rabbet one sawblade thickness off the spacer before beginning cuts on your workpiece(s).

@randytellez2451 20 күн бұрын

Your videos are some of the best. Precise narratives without any off topic blah blah and your demeanor is to be applauded. Even better is your all inclusive explanations. Thank you for sharing your expertise.

@devilsdance87 Жыл бұрын

Just tried this today and absolute game changer!! Thanks Stumpy!!

@fidgetshouse 10 ай бұрын

I am certain you don't expect comments on older videos, but you just saved this fan girl from the anxiety of cutting my first dados. I love how you explain everything so clearly. I am so glad I found the video!

@thebigksmoosey Жыл бұрын

Great tip. I saw this a few years back on someone else's video, but I can't remember whose. With so many newer woodworkers around, and so many veteran woodworkers putting down their tools due to age, it's always good to keep tips like this circulating through the community, in my opinion. This keeps knowledge fresh and stops it from being lost to time.

@dsigetich Жыл бұрын

Terrific again, James. Simple, simply explained. Thanks again.

@billybike57 Жыл бұрын

Wow! Thanks! I’ve put off using dado joints simply for the cost of a dado stack. This is great news for a paycheck to paycheck hobbyist like me!👍🏼

@rexseven93 Жыл бұрын

If the spacer boards along the fence through the whole cut bother you, you could just clamp it before the blade. You would want to hold the panel secure to the miter bar, but it would work fine.

@DomenicDatti Жыл бұрын

Great tip! This will surely save me time, as I do not have a dado capable saw. I bought the Freud blade you mentioned a long time ago in one of your other videos to cut dados, so I will definitely be using this trick. The thought dawned on me that this trick works with a dado stack as well. Your shim would have to match the thickness of the stack, but depending on how wide of a dado you're cutting, you might save a ton of time using this method.

@DomenicDatti Жыл бұрын

@@kyronnewbury I believe he suggested a bunch. I ended up with the Freud 24T Heavy Duty rip blade. He mentioned another from Ridge Carbide and possibly others. I'm sure you can find the video on his channel somewhere.

@Cecil_X Жыл бұрын

It also works with a router bit.

@springwoodcottage4248 Жыл бұрын

So beautifully simple & effective. Thank you for sharing!

@chrispelletier3661 Жыл бұрын

Omg! Sooo perfect!!!!! Thank you for your expertise! Chris

@WhatAboutZoidberg Жыл бұрын

The video finished and Im just sitting here blinking with a blank expression on my face. "Huh, thats so elegant and simple."

@GeorgeCooper_LoneWolf Жыл бұрын

Finnaly after watching all your fantastic helpful tips and information. I can for the first time say this... I have been doing this trick for years. However the tip to add a bit of tape just to get the right thickness is a great idea that I never thought of. Great video buddy 👍

@lukmanadewunmi3876 11 ай бұрын

Wow!!! You just helped me with a solution to a problem that has been troubling me. Many thanks.

@jrobiii1 Жыл бұрын

Best idea ever! So simple. Going to try it out this weekend. Thanks James!

@glennryzebol4472 Жыл бұрын

This is a great trick. The guys over at foureyes furniture have a very similar one using a drill bit as a spacer in the same way you`re using that piece of hard board. Slightly different but the same result. I think your method might be a bit simpler to use so i will have to try it also . thanks

@CarlYota 11 ай бұрын

It’s also worth noting that instead of the small shim you can use a drill bit. That way if your blade isn’t 1/8 you can easily get it perfect no matter the blade size. Remember that you don’t have to drag the wood against the rip fence you’re just using that tool set the position of the wood on your miter gauge or crosscut sled. So just jam the piece against the drill bit against your rip fence. Then make your cut leaving the drill bit behind. Of course if it’s easy enough to get your shin the size of your blade then that’s fine.

@Woojo01 4 ай бұрын

Holy cow! This is so simple and extremely useful. Thanks for sharing this. I try to watch all of your videos and always find them useful. 😀😀

@romanjohnston Жыл бұрын

So the key is you have both reference points of the source material and the blade cutting the void and their relationship. Very nice and a great understanding of the KISS principle. Thank you!

@IanPrest Жыл бұрын

This would also work well *with* a dado blade, so you have to do fewer passes. Just make sure your stack is thinner than you need your dado to be (though preferably greater than 1/2 the desired dado size, so you only need two passes), and make sure it's of a known thickness, so you could use a brass setup block as your 'thin' spacer.

@philjohnwilliams Жыл бұрын

You can save yourself a few passes over the blade by using a dado stack that is narrower than the dado you are cutting, for example using a 5/8" stack to cut a 3/4" dado in two passes

@paristo Жыл бұрын

The idea of this is that you don't need to switch blades. You just get the required cuts made quickly, as making few extra passes is not wasted time.

@percyfaith11 Жыл бұрын

@@paristo Depends on how many dados you have to cut. A dado in 2 passes versus 6 or 7 passes is a lot of saved time if you have to do 10 dados.

@paristo Жыл бұрын

@@percyfaith11 If it would be dedicated machine for this one task, it would make sense more, or if the cut needs to be long ones. Then dado stacks make sense. But swapping between working and all, it is just time saver to even do those few cuts more. Common cut is only 1/2-3/4" wide. Common blade is what, 1/8" kerf. For one dado you need to do 5-7 cuts with little overlapping, so you don't need to use chisel to finish it. Having a good sled makes it super fast. First, last and then between. Even easier is often to use a router with good sled jig, that does it with one pass, but table saw is still faster. If one doesn't do dados all the time, time and effort savings to use dado stack isn't there.

@y2kroxy 7 ай бұрын

I like the idea of the dado stack when you have production work. No , I don’t do this for a living but I could see using that dado stack as the kerf thickness could save me time. I’m currently making 22 cabinet drawers using the 1/2, 1/2, 1/2 method which will have 1/2” and 3/4” thick bottoms that will be in a dado all around . Having to do this with a a regular 1/8 kerf blade would take forever. Using the dado stack with this video would be easier than having to fidget with differing dado stack thicknesses and will only to do 2 passes at most.

@carlmclelland7624 Жыл бұрын

Stumpy... I've been 'destroying wood' on a table saw for sixty years now... WHY didn't I ever think of that?!?! I'm making my 'dado guide' right now! You've earned my subscription!!

@Hoeech Жыл бұрын

I am literally one sleep away from proceeding to the part of my current build in which I'll be cutting dados and I was dreading it. I always second guess myself and overthink the measurements, usually ending up with a dado that's too wide. This solution is so stupidly easy and virtually foolproof that even a fool like me can cut confidently. Thanks!

@ralphiewigs2208 Жыл бұрын

This simple jig (masonite, maybe with tape) will now need to be turned into an impossibly complicated build. i'm imagining quick change inserts, rulers, adjustable stops, possibly a laser, and lots and lots of t-track.

@tinynolamike6360 Жыл бұрын

Wow. You said it in the intro and delivered in the video. Many thanks for this great tip!

@javierflores4567 4 ай бұрын

This video is going straight to my favorite playlist 🎉🎉🎉thank you I saw this in onother video but the way you explain is the best 🎉🎉🎉🎉

@safriedrich1631 Жыл бұрын

for a "piddler" of woodworking like me...this unbelievably simple trick, is life changing !! No amount of thanks could even up for your tips !

@tgahan01 Жыл бұрын

I’ve seen this method shown on other videos, but I must say, James, your explanation is the easiest to understand.

@AussieDonkeyDan Жыл бұрын

Thanks, You demonstrated it perfectly and I will use it now.

@TheCyberMantis Жыл бұрын

This is the most useful trick I have learned in a long time. Simple. Genius.

@gteam53 Ай бұрын

You make the complex simple. Thank you for your excellent videos.

@glencrandall7051 Жыл бұрын

Thanks James. It is a simple idea. And as you stated it has been presented by others. But from the comments here a good many folks have not seen this before. Therefore it is a useful reminder. For those concerned about this technique not leaving a flat bottom, this is a great opportunity to use your router plane. In fact regular use of a router plane to finish off dados is a good idea. It ensures uniform dados. Thank you for sharing James. Have a great day and stay safe.🙂🙂

@cyrilnorrie8450 Жыл бұрын

You're right, I don't know why I didn't think of this. I think we sometimes just keep using the same techniques that we've been using for years without giving a thought that there may be a better way. Thanks for sharing this and I always look forward to your videos!

@paulperlmutter5371 5 ай бұрын

This is ingenious! Terrific. Thank you.

@rallapalli48 Жыл бұрын

After watching this video, I tried this trick and worked absolutely fine. Thanks for the tip!!

@stephenrichie4646 Жыл бұрын

Yup. Figured that out a couple years ago. Works like a charm.

@bvictory5698 4 ай бұрын

What a clutch little tip! Thanks for sharing with us!

@cyrilnorrie8450 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for this trick, which will come in handy when we just want a quick dado or two, without installing a dado blade. You always come up with time saving ideas, sometimes money saving as well.

@raymcedward1416 4 ай бұрын

I used this method for a 36” groove in some oak. Worked great! Thanks for the tip.

@LewHarriman Жыл бұрын

Sheesh. So obvious and so clearly a good idea as soon as one sees it in action. Thanks James.

@rgsiiiya Жыл бұрын

WOW! Perfect Timing. I was going to go buy a dado blade this weekend. I don't need to do this very often, and this approach 'just makes sense". You just saved me $80!!!!!

@perkrog8310 Жыл бұрын

Great and simple trick. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@stephendelassus5462 Жыл бұрын

Holy crap! This is so simple! Thank you!

@user-fp1wx2oq7e 11 ай бұрын

Thank you for the intelligent and simple method. When I watch your videos you come across as a really intelligent and skilled person.👍

@sipntools Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much. I have a shelf I'm in the process of making and I need to do dado cuts (never done before). I've already saved your video and will definitely be referencing it!

@dancoleman1269 4 ай бұрын

This is brilliant. Wow! Thank you.

@nikolausreinke9966 Жыл бұрын

Great. Easy. Reliable. What else could one wish. Thank you!!

@user-gv1jd8qo3n Жыл бұрын

This is one of the best tips I've ever seen. Thank you!

@nonprogrediestregredi1711 Жыл бұрын

That's a fantastic idea. 👏 So simple, yet so effective.

@user-cq8gu6wn9g 5 ай бұрын

Now I understand how the "kerfmaker" works. I was going to buy one soon, but with this trick there's no need for that anymore. Thank you for the comprehensive video!

@kiki231000 Жыл бұрын

well done, James. This is so simple and fool proof it should be considered a fundamental table saw trick (like auxiliary fences and sleds)

@keithkester8574 Жыл бұрын

Perfect tip. Brilliant and super handy

@toddkunkel7111 Жыл бұрын

Awesome tip! I will use that at work in the future. Brilliant and eloquently simple.❤

@Dazza19746 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant, a mystery simplified and transferable to other work such as a router table, just match shim to cutter! Thank you 🙏

@TheLovelyMissBeans Жыл бұрын

This is so smart! Just a really brilliant and simple solution, exactly what I've come to expect from you! So great for new woodworkers who haven't acquired a dado stack, or our friends across the pond who are not allowed access to them. And great for making one or two quick cuts instead of changing out blades.

@chipperkeithmgb Жыл бұрын

Not correct in England if you want to you can use them

@MrReivn Жыл бұрын

Well explained, and extremely well presented. Useful hands-on instructions on a fairly simple work flow, especially for us that don't have official access to dados due to regulations. Thank you!

@chitwazingambi9003 5 ай бұрын

You're a very resourceful man God bless you.

@ZipHope Жыл бұрын

That is genius! Thank you for the great tip!!

@alexlev4631 Жыл бұрын

Simple, handy, excelent tip! Thanks!

@9and7 Жыл бұрын

Another awesome idea that keep coming from the makers of YT. I Build It had a great one for dowels and now we get this Dado dandy from Stumpy Nubs. Genius!

@markyboy4777 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for sharing. I only hope I remember to use it next time I need it!

@theofarmmanager267 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. I’m sure many of us use this method already - but there will be many who do not; watching this video makes it so easy to understand the principle. I have kerf shims to fit all of my various table saw blades. One point: I fully understand it’s unlikely to get kickback when you are only partially cutting through a board or slab. However, I prefer to have only one best practice and so never have the fence addition as far forward as the front of the blade. That way, I don’t have to think about whether it’s a partial or full cut. At my age, simplicity is a virtue