Wing Chun Genius: "Karate Is WRONG"
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6 ай бұрынWing Chun expert Kevin Lee explains kata Naihanchi / Tekki Shodan from Karate. These practical applications (bunkai) will blow your mind! Is Okinawan Karate is actually Wing Chun?
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@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
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@Gwamdes 6 ай бұрын
I am sub you and i am like
@ryanosullivan2858 6 ай бұрын
I do like these comparisons so deffo
@king4lit707 6 ай бұрын
yes
@user-pb6vr5oq7u 6 ай бұрын
Yes 👍
@RajaBrahman-sn6fj 6 ай бұрын
Yes sensei
@KevinLeeVlog 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for having me! 🙏🏼🙏🏼 I have learned so much about Karate from you! It’s so fascinating to see the connection! Now I just need a Time Machine to truly find out what happened in the past!
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
That would be amazing Kevin! 🤩 Thanks again for sharing your knowledge 🙏
@dandenyer1543 6 ай бұрын
I love this! I always thought the Sanchin kata, with open hands,reflects opening of Siu Lim Tao. Wing Chun and Karate pair so well, it's like they are teaching the same thing, but Wing Chun focused forms teach by principle, which you need to learn to apply; whereas Karate forms teach by examples, for you to figure out the principle yourself.
@bikerunner1792 3 ай бұрын
i love wing chun one time a guy got in my way i elbowed striked a guy he went flying i didnt learn wing chung very long either i did for a couple weeks like to learn from a real master thought
@AI-Records24 3 ай бұрын
And yes, yes you have!
@jamesbeach7405 Ай бұрын
I always enjoy your wing chun explanations! They are very clear and make a great deal of sense.
@robertstubblefield8190 6 ай бұрын
I think this is brilliant. Alot of Southern Chinese martial arts played a role in the development of karate.
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
Most definitely!
@bradnarok 6 ай бұрын
It’s been my understanding that Karate, as well as Wing Chun, Dragon, Mantis, Snake, and Bak Mei styles of Kung Fu, all evolved from Fujian White Crane. Is this correct?
@georgefoley9793 6 ай бұрын
@@bradnarokNot sure about other Kung Fu styles, but definitely Wing Chun for sure. I currently practice the Goju-Ryu style of Okinawan Karate, but I also have a background in WC as well, and both styles share a lot in common when it comes to body mechanics, stances, and redirecting open hand movements.
@robertstubblefield8190 6 ай бұрын
@@bradnarok Having trained in Southern Mantis, Wing Chun and Karate and I can say from my experience it's a mix of yes and no. Yes in that with Wing Chun that per the origins that both White crane as well as snake fist played a role in it's development. As for Southern Mantis particularly the Jook lum lineage had combined White Crane, Chin Na grappling and other Shaolin martial arts to get to it's development. Bak mei from what other Bak mei practitioners have said to me the arts that played a role were Tiger, death touch, wudang and Shaolin but idk white crane played a role in it's development. But for Karate, Mantis and Wing Chun it's yes and no. Hope this helps. Train and learn.
@Pantoffla 6 ай бұрын
Bak mei, fujian white crane, five ancestors gung fu is more ore less Okinawa kenpo
@Drescodeleo 5 ай бұрын
As a Wing Chun practitioner, I must say that this is for once a refreshing video of comparisons between Japanese and Chinese styles. I love the approach and comradery between both masters.
@guyvandurme7228 3 ай бұрын
Real masters do not compete, they learn from each other
@BadaBarreto 2 ай бұрын
Shoshin
@C5films Ай бұрын
Greatest respect, there is no Japanese style here. Traditional Karate is Okinowan, derived from Chinese teaching and influence. Japanese Karate is 'sport' karate, and that is not here. These styles meld beautifully together because they're essentially the same thing
@danielhashemi3163 Ай бұрын
Idk that you consider kyokushin a Japanese style or Korean but it's not definitely okinawan Maybe some okinawan influences but not directly a subgroup of it
@Drescodeleo Ай бұрын
@@danielhashemi3163 not kyokushin but karate itself
@raphaelargus2984 5 ай бұрын
My Sifu, who only taught me Wing Chun and Qigong, but was a master of several other arts too, once said to me, "I'm going to show you this thing, called Tensho. Don't worry about the rest of the art it comes from, just learn this". And it became part of our Wing Chun routine. He got criticized by traditional Wing Chun guys for that!
@Dariet88 5 ай бұрын
breathing kata
@mokkorista 5 ай бұрын
Few years ago, I've seen a local WT sifu performing something that resembled Tensho so much that it couldn't have been a coincidence. I showed him my Tensho, which is a bit different from other versions (hands movement is fast and goes in long circles, not almost straight like typical goju ryu). We agreed it's definitely from the same cradle.
@anistardi 4 ай бұрын
If you learn many movement but do not understand how to use it, you must be stupid. But wise man understand why that movement created and can develop many variation or even modify to be better.
@mokkorista 3 ай бұрын
Look for Siu Lim Tao, it's Tensho of Wing Chun.
@chrishart3090 3 ай бұрын
LOVE Tensho
@jackheritage3023 6 ай бұрын
These kind of videos need to become more popular amongst martial artists as a whole. The community spends so much time at each others throats about what art is the best and which are useless... etc. Videos like this help us understand that PRINCIPLES are often shared from art to art. It is just the examples of the use of the principle that differ. Loved this video!
@owenwoolley3394 6 ай бұрын
Based comment
@Averagebum21 6 ай бұрын
+jackheritage3023 Exactly.
@elpanamoe8040 6 ай бұрын
Thats how many schools or styles were born... sharing knowledge
@miguelscosta 3 ай бұрын
yep
@RIMOCEROS 6 ай бұрын
As a Wing Chun guy, I really enjoyed this! Kevin Lee seems to be a very proficient Wing Chun teacher. You really stepped up your game over the years Jesse. Keep this quality content coming! :)
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
I appreciate that! More coming 😁
@michaeljohnson6019 6 ай бұрын
Wing Chun gentlemen really has excellent understanding of the principles used.
@jeffrey501green 6 ай бұрын
@@PaMuShinpick up the gold nugget wherever you can find it...
@anistardi 4 ай бұрын
@@PaMuShin I agree, but it not only depend on the teacher but also depend on yourself. I learn math faster than average people regardless who is the teacher. Good teacher made the student learn more faster. In engineering, many graduated student don't know how to apply the knowledge in real world. Even they can not design a simple product then working in the different field. It is like martial arts that many student only interested how become stronger but can not apply their technique in real fight.
@MehrdadParthian 6 ай бұрын
sense jesse's animated reactions are so funny. also i love how kevin is basically an encyclopedia of wing chun. everything jesse throws at him, he already knows and goes even further. amazing
@ThomasfromDenmark1 6 ай бұрын
Jesse you have one of the most wholesome martial arts channels on KZfaq. You are a role model for anyone who wants to learn martial arts. Genuinely open and eager to learn, and so humble. And of course you are a major martial arts nerd, your are extremely full of knowledge.
@smaulpaul 6 ай бұрын
I love how you both were so excited to see the similarities in the styles and ultimately learn from each other. The energy levels in this short video were incredible. Lots of respect to Kevin who clearly knows his stuff. Well done guys
@dificilhardschwer 5 ай бұрын
More, more, more! It was too short.
@user-nc5kz9nm9m 5 ай бұрын
Yalnisin var karateci öhreniyor
@johngodson5156 3 ай бұрын
I felt exactly the same. Well said.
@seyfoudin 6 ай бұрын
In fact, it is not than Okinawan made a local Wing Chun, it is than Wing Chun and Karate came from the same "mother martial art" : Bai He Quan, (Crane Fist) from Foshan. If you study the Taos in Bai He, you will see that Wing Chun and Karate, in their own ways, are in fact sort of synthesis of that style !
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
Seems so!
@houseofaction 6 ай бұрын
No this is wrong, Wing Chun has its origins in basic shaolin and Nanquan, karate has its basic origins fom Fujian white crane, white crane has its origins in shaolin and Nanquan. so its Nanquan Wing Chun- Fujian hite krane Karate so they are siblings or more akin to cousin arts
@rogermanley9017 Ай бұрын
Yes!
@PaulMarostica 3 ай бұрын
This was extremely well done. I've never before seen such close comparisons of karate and kung fu. You 2 could make a very exciting team in a fictional martial arts movie, where the 2 of you working together each take on bad guys differently while learning from each other, and at the same time teaching the audience. The chemistry between you was as good as it gets. Get yourselves into the movie business as a team. Use this video as your promotional video.
@richyjay330 3 ай бұрын
Kung fu just means way of life.
@waynestarkey756 5 ай бұрын
Its so great to see a respectful conversation and exchange of knowledge between two people from different paths and styles meet.
@jhf833 6 ай бұрын
Tensho is very similar to Sil Lin Tao, several aspects in common between Goju Ryu (and Naha Te in general) with Wig Chun. I think it's due to the common roots of the Fujian White Crane Fist. With this in mind, it is interesting to reflect on how the transformation into a sport when Karate arrived in Japan distorted and deformed it.
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
Spot on 👍
@dimulaidari3714 6 ай бұрын
Kungfu being Kempo in Japanese Tongue😊
@Budoka2005 6 ай бұрын
That was also my thought. The chum kiu of Wing Chun and the Naihanchi have also very similar Motion.
@kris4786 6 ай бұрын
@@KARATEbyJesse In your China series didn't you find that Flower Shop Kung fu was similar to the Original Shaolin form and saw Naihanchi in the form. It was a very good series by the way.
@TheSubwaysurfer 6 ай бұрын
Totally agree with you and tenshou Is my favorite form also. I’ve always felt that it was a cousin to wing Cheong
@andrewt8721 5 ай бұрын
This is the best video I've seen explaining the similarities between both arts, you guy's rock, thank you from down under Australia
@darkarts_grappling 3 ай бұрын
Dang Kevin... this is by far, one of the best videos on application I've ever seen. Great job!
@kevingray4980 6 ай бұрын
When I first started learning Wing Chun in the 90s, my sifu explained the similarity to traditional Okinawan karate. "They are both based on the same movement patterns from White Crane, but Karate focuses more on using those principles to create powerful strikes to cause direct injury. Wing Chun focuses more on the intersection between striking and wrestling to improve position, use structure to physically move a larger opponent and deliver quick low energy strikes to vital targets.
@fallofshadows2209 6 ай бұрын
That description, combined with the movements of the Wing Chun teacher in this video remind of me certain concepts in Hapkido. Makes me wonder if they’re distantly related somehow.
@houseofaction 6 ай бұрын
nope sorry but not true, the parent styles of Wing Chun are basic shaolin and Nanquan. where in Fujian white crane is descended from Nanquan as well. so its like this Nanquan Wing Chun-Fujian white crane Karate Jeet Kune do thats the family tree
@kevingray4980 6 ай бұрын
@@houseofaction I took it to mean the principles understood from observing the animal, not a literal lineage. I imagine there was a lot of cross-pollination between styles and animals served as lexicon for movement patterns.
@reeds.9669 6 ай бұрын
I was about to say this, my Wing Chun Sifu told me that the legend was that Ng Mui created the prototype Wing-Chun from the crane and snake techniques from the five animals Shaolin style and simplified it so that a student could learn to use these techniques effectively within a few years of start training, and then it was passed down to Yim Wing Chun and so on and so forth.
@jjma5894 6 ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong. But I believe that Jesse did a personal trip documentry to China that tried ot follow Okinawan Karate back to China and the White Crane kung Fu in China. It was a very informative.
@SalvadorTrakal 6 ай бұрын
One of the systems that influenced Okinawan Karate is White Crane, they even share a form, Sanchin. Both White Crane and Wing Chun come from the same place, Yongchun. Always loved to find connections between Chinese systems and this is why Okinawan Karate has a special place in my heart, even tho I have never practiced it. Great video as always!
@sayajinmamuang 6 ай бұрын
Yes white krane and pushing hands
@matthewbaumann630 5 ай бұрын
How many forms does white crane have?
@SalvadorTrakal 5 ай бұрын
I know about 2, I'm sure there's more and also various styles, so there may be a lot of forms in the system
@lottodesire 5 ай бұрын
It comes from the bubshi. It's very well documented. Shoalin monk fist ,Yong Chun and white Crain. The documents exist. Patrick mccarthy how's written about it Extensively . Historically, Wing Chun was one set. Then broken down into 3 sets. Which started the watering down. SLT is a dead give away that it's a Qi gong based system. And also do to the Kuen kit.
@zoeebaron9107 5 ай бұрын
Yes, for me too it is fascinating. In all fairness it is all in all the same. I guess Wing Chun was a modern version of the Crane. Like Karate was a Japanese version of some Kung Fu... It is the same remodel. When it comes down to it we all (well nearly) got 2 arms, 2 legs and 10 fingers all over the globe, so it is not that crazy to find similar technics in other places.
@dasnegotiator 4 ай бұрын
Keep these videos coming. That was one of the best breakdowns of nihanchi I’ve ever seen. I love that you demonstrated that it’s the artist not the art. No egos. We are truly one family.
@AlphN008 7 күн бұрын
To think that the content of this video could've been the wisdom of a lifetime before the internet is really humbling and amazing.
@ryansmith-on5im 6 ай бұрын
I’ve done traditional style Kung Fu and Wing Chun for over 25yrs. What I’ve learned from my masters is that there is really only so many “right ways” to move the human body. So basically all the really good martial arts share the same or very similar techniques just with there own flair. Great videos. Keep up the good work!!!!
@michaelmartinez3893 6 ай бұрын
Kevin is great. He's making me want to take a Wing Chun class. Excellent video as always Jesse 🙂.
@jamiearnold1711 6 ай бұрын
Give it a try but bear in mind classes are often very slow paced. Try and find one that spars too.
@michaelmartinez3893 6 ай бұрын
@@jamiearnold1711 thanks. I did karate for 8 years. It just seems an interesting style to study to me.
@jamiearnold1711 6 ай бұрын
@@michaelmartinez3893 it's certainly a complex and interesting art. I studied Wing Chun and really enjoyed it -- I hope to return to it one day but I'm focusing on karate and other goals at the moment.
@michaelmartinez3893 6 ай бұрын
@@jamiearnold1711 Cool. What style of karate?
@jamiearnold1711 6 ай бұрын
@@michaelmartinez3893 Shotokan
@justinwilson3653 6 ай бұрын
This a amazing! Everything is connected thank you for making this connection and taking the time to talk and film it.
@cdouglashall Ай бұрын
Mr Enkamp, you are an asset to humanity, sir. I could write an essay, but thank you for everything. 🙏🏼
@KARATEbyJesse Ай бұрын
Thank you kindly 🙏
@marcusgottlieb2307 6 ай бұрын
To witness a sincere, ego free exchange of knowledge is such a fresh breath of air. Thank you for reminding us what curiosity open mindness, and willingness to listen looks like. Well done gentlemen!
@Foggen 6 ай бұрын
Between this and the Savate video, Jesse is really doing an anthropological study of the history of Karate, in a way only a dedicated practitioner could.
@SamuelBarrPhotography 2 ай бұрын
That was awesome! So good to see you both exchanging ideas and sharing. Yes, we want to see more of these types of videos.
@garywilliams1839 3 ай бұрын
As a Wado student of many years, this video felt very natural and made so much sense. Thank you.
@Elemental19001 6 ай бұрын
I grew up doing taekwondo, essentially Korean karate, and then did Moy Yat Ving Tsun (wing chun) for about 4 to 5 years. The more I watch Jessie explore the roots of karate and meet with other teachers of other styles the more I see the relationship between Wing Chun and karate, particularly the Okinawan variations Jesse has shown
@georgefoley9793 6 ай бұрын
Goju-Ryu style of Okinawan Karate shares a lot with Wing Chun and Fujian White Crane Kung Fu. I have trained several years in Ip-Man / Wong Shun Leung lineage of WC, and I currently train in Goju-Ryu because it is very similar in body mechanics, stances, and redirecting open hand movements.
@Elemental19001 6 ай бұрын
@@georgefoley9793 I have wanted to study goju-ryu for a very long time but there are no schools in my area that are close enough to travel to. Live just outside of Philadelphia currently
@georgefoley9793 6 ай бұрын
@@Elemental19001 If you travel to Southern California, there are several good dojos here.
@johncontrael9916 6 ай бұрын
@@Elemental19001Same here. Western PA is full of Tang Soo Do, Taekwon Do, and Hapkido schools. Not much of the Okinawan arts available.
@Elemental19001 6 ай бұрын
@@johncontrael9916 there might be some in Philadelphia but I cannot travel that far right now. I know there used to be a Uechi Ryu school not too far into Philadelphia though
@MartialArtsGamer 6 ай бұрын
My sensei teaches me wing Chun as well as Karate. I see the connection. Great stuff Jesse. I’ll have to show him this video.
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
Wonderful!!
@krishnakamble9698 6 ай бұрын
Which one do you prefer?
@MartialArtsGamer 6 ай бұрын
@@krishnakamble9698 Both traditional Karate and Wing Chun have good application of technique. They’re both interchangeable, but I will say in some ways Wing Chun is a little bit easier. Still I enjoy both Martial arts.
@AndroidSamsung-qz9pl 5 ай бұрын
@@KARATEbyJesse is there a Karate version of the Wing Chun chain punch?
@billreynolds586 5 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this video for both the illustration, via bunkai of Naihanchi, of the commonality between Karate and Wing Chun, but also simply for the validation of what we have observed at my school. We provide classes in karate and also separate classes in Wing Chun and have appreciated the synergy that we have found in training in both.
@dorgoron 5 ай бұрын
as a once practitioner of karate and wing chun, this bunkai is blowing my mind. thank you so very much!
@OPGuitarandGames 6 ай бұрын
I am preparing my black belt exam and this is a kata that I need to perform. So cool to see this variation and the application of it. Great learning !
@belangp 6 ай бұрын
This was a wonderful video. I've practiced kung fu for a little over 40 years and every time I have an interaction like this with someone who has a similar level of experience in another system it opens my eyes to new ways of interpreting movements in my forms. Great respect to you, Jesse, from a martial arts brother in Buffalo, New York!
@marthascargill5234 6 ай бұрын
this was great! i'd love more teamups from you two! the sincere but also fun move set testing was very wholesome
@trainingnotes4793 3 ай бұрын
This was so freaking educational. You guys are two masters. Well done! And Thank you!
@blockmasterscott 6 ай бұрын
Man, I love Tekki Shodan, one of my favorite forms.
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
You’re not alone! 👍
@theelementalmonster4121 6 ай бұрын
Also listening to the final conversation that you had with Kevin, it does bring us back to the point that whatever martial art it is, basic biomechanic principles do still exist and still apply, which is why ive always laughed when people think that one art is better than another, because at its core, all martial arts just simply use your body mechanics as leverage. As long as we understand the application that's what matters!
@mdfds963 Ай бұрын
With over 40 years of Wing Chun kung fu training .He is the only Gm Teaching 6 days a week .He is also the fastest Wing Chun kung striker.He is second to none!
@kaironconqueror5817 3 ай бұрын
As far as application and comparison this has been the best matchup of skills and training of 2 disciplines I've seen so far.
@matthewlakes7780 6 ай бұрын
I am not a martial artist, but I like cultural studies. Your videos are centered in this way, which is really interesting and fun. Thanks man! Good work. Subscribed.
@nicholasgreen339 3 ай бұрын
That's an interesting view point you have 😊
@MartialArtsCalisthenicsOutdoor 6 ай бұрын
I practiced GojuRyu Karate in the IOGKF for many years and then 8,5 Years ago I switched to WingTsun. And the more I learn in WingTsun the better I understand what I did in Karate but more important why I did this way in Karate. And in the 12 GojuRyu Katas the one that is closest to WingTsun is Tensho and it's cause of where it comes from.... The white crane.
@georgefoley9793 6 ай бұрын
I practiced Wing Chun (Ip-Man / Wong Shun Leung lineage) for several years, and I now practice Goju-Ryu. Both styles complement each other so well, and the more I learn Goju-Ryu, the more it feels like WC.
@RoyalFizzbin 6 ай бұрын
Goju-Ryu is what I grew up doing. I tried SOUTHERN mantis, and it was so, so, much like wing chun; all three arts share this close, “step in” focus. If you can find a good Southern Mantis instructor (anyone reading this), you will learn to play in that wing chun space for sure. Note however that NORTHERN mantis is a totally different art that likes to go from a distance.
@SVTCO 15 күн бұрын
This have me lots of insights into the evolution of styles and shows the similarities of the fundamental principles which are the keys of each style. Thank you for this!
@kunedoman 2 күн бұрын
One of your top videos Jesse, hope you have Kevin back for more comparative discussions!
@martialgeeks 6 ай бұрын
Wing chun's been making a comeback....almost tears me up 🥲 thank you Jesse & Kevin 💪🙏🔥😎
@Kal-El_was_taken 6 ай бұрын
Woah; my Shi-Han literally just taught me the beginning of this Kata tonight - its not in our Goju-Ryu syllabus but its so different than anything I’d done up until now over these last few years. Love the wavelength you’re on Jesse - keep inspiring🥋
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it resonates! 🙏
@hotlanta35 6 ай бұрын
There are 3 naihanchi katas
@abrahamlincoln6201 6 ай бұрын
@@perfectsplit5515I study isshin ryu too but from what I learned it was mostly just goju ryu,shorin ryu, and motobu kenpo and weopons from Taira Shinken idk bout pure kung fu though maybe though maybe
@kevionrogers2605 6 ай бұрын
@hotlanta35 it depends on the lineage the 2nd & 3rd were created by Itosu, so only the lineages that descend from him have three. Similarly with Pinan 1 to 5. Originally they were created as a series of introductory forms by Itosu, but depending on when you learn them & from whom they evolved into several varieties. Chomo Hanashiro only learned the first when it was developed. The others came several years later, so if you learn from his lineage they only teach Pinan Shodan.
@abrahamlincoln6201 6 ай бұрын
@@kevionrogers2605 I'm not sure if it's true but I would like to share that it's said that hiagonna kanryo knew a nahanchi with open hands
@reltcstone2 2 ай бұрын
this was excellent you guys. wonderful analysis from both perspectives that i also found enlightening. Loved the info on the strength in strikes from breath and the ribs/lungs. really interesting applications of counter strikes, elbow combos, and handswords.
@johngustafson7490 5 ай бұрын
Hugs to Kevin, thanks for the training in the past!
@simkoning4648 6 ай бұрын
I used to practice Wing Chun and Hung Gar, both of which are related to other southern styles like White Crane. I think karate is more closely related to "southern Shaolin" styles than southern Shaolin styles are to northern styles like Longfist, which is what you most often see in modern wushu and Shaolin.
@forestsnow6508 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like Albuquerque 🙏
@houseofaction 6 ай бұрын
the parent style of karate is fujian white crane. the parent style of fujian white crane is Nanquan the parent style of wing chun is also Nanquan so its like this Nanquan Wing Chun Fujian White crane karate Jeet Kune Do
@davidschultz5874 6 ай бұрын
I love how curious you remain and always open to new understanding of an art you've been involved in for most of your life. You're so fun to watch.
@alexandermcfadyen3295 5 ай бұрын
VERY interesting video guys! Really enjoyed this video, especially how Jesse demonstrated such a perfectly executed Okinawan Karate form and how Kevin was able to perfectly disect the form by Jesse and execute its principles as Wing Chun applications. It just goes too show our martial arts traditions have the same goals and it’s really great too see two different style practitioners, coming together and exchanging techniques in such a friendly manner. Great for the martial arts communities guys, very good show, we all learned some really valuable skills!
@josephchen3493 3 ай бұрын
Wonderful demo video. A friendly, non-bias discussion of different style of martial arts. Rare to see.
@tanjudermanl9111 6 ай бұрын
That's the reason why I studied so many years Wing Chun, after Shorin Ryu and Shotokan. Karate and Wing Chun complement each other and are actually a continuation of each other and JKD is the final station. The way of mind is one. Thank you so much dear Sensei Jesse. I love your way of thinking.
@rahulsubramanian6545 6 ай бұрын
Jesse's approach towards videos is "quality over quantity".
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
It’s my way of life 💪
@fabchi4597 6 ай бұрын
I left karate over 10 years ago and by watching you I just want to go back to it right away, I miss it so much 😭
@mikesrandomchannel Ай бұрын
I REALLY like the final point on focus and concentration, so applicable in martial arts! ❤
@hawkgirl0912 6 ай бұрын
It's 8:30 am and I'm drinking my morning coffee.☕️ I thought I subscribed to Kevin Lee's channel, but I hadn't!😢 Gonna remedy that! Jesse, I can tell you're mentally absorbing everything being said! You're going to be a lethal weapon in USDC 2!😂
@nevilleharris4466 6 ай бұрын
I used to train in Wing Chun back in the 1990s, but I've been using Naihanchi Shodan (and Sanchin) as the core of my own training, for the past five years or so. So I find this video brilliant and fascinating!
@licustoms 6 күн бұрын
I've never studied Wing Chun but this was quite eye opening to the similarities of the styles! Thank you for sharing. 🙏🏻
@timoloef 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Jesse, this is the most informative video on karate that I've seen in a while. All karate teaches should watch it! By the way, lots of karate teachers say you should only make a fist at the last one or two inches right before hitting someone ... and keep the hands relaxed until that point. And the way the Wing Chun master "chopped" the attack is exactly how we practiced shoto uke
@glauciogonzales 6 ай бұрын
This is one of the reasons why I love this channel! Wonderful class showing the Chinese origins of the kata I learned as Tekki Shodan! And it's great to see both experts learning together from each other.
@Vincentorix 6 ай бұрын
It’s neat to see that Karate, which came from Okinawa, has its roots in different KungFu techniques. We can look to other martial arts for the bunkai of our katas.
@Elemental19001 5 ай бұрын
Hi Jesse. I just wanted to say thank you. I studied Tae Kwon Do as a child, Wing Chun in my late 20s and now, in no small part due to your videos, I just started studying with a sensei who teaches a combination of Goju-ryu and Seidokan karate. I just learned the first to Kata and I'm only had two classes so far but I am absolutely loving it. Thank you for the inspiration
@Swift52556 5 ай бұрын
Amazing, English-fluent and top communicator Wing Chu teacher. This is the meeting of two great masters!
@davidmedeiros7572 6 ай бұрын
Love this! I've always heard my from wing chun instructors that there was a direct connection between wc and older forms of karate. Some of this is probably just that certain movements are logical in any martial art, but a lot of it looks like a shared lineage as well. You guys are great together BTW, more of this please.
@lee9576 5 ай бұрын
Definitely shares lineage to White Crane
@GreenGrid 16 күн бұрын
Awsome upload! Thank you both for sharring this golden knowledge.
@mxracer158 3 ай бұрын
It's great to see two sharing and comparing with an open mind for the other
@kpitman1990 6 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this subject to appear on your channel for so long, I’m so happy! I’ve been practicing Wing Chun now for almost 10 years and I was happy to hear about the things Kevin was mentioning and saying! This reminds me so much of one of the concepts you have mentioned before on your channel, I think maybe even when you were experimenting with Kevin before! You said, “No matter where you start around the base of the mountain, all paths journey towards the peak.” That mindset is one of the things that your channel has taught me that has made such a huge impact on my training. Eventually, martial concepts start overlapping and techniques start performing the same with slightly different adaptations. It’s a beautiful thing!
@tolkelas 6 ай бұрын
I've been waiting a long time for a video of Jesse talking about Wing Chun as, being a Wing Chun practitioner myself and having practiced karate, I've come to see a good amount of similarities between the two arts. Thank you so much Jesse and Kevin. It'd be great to have a more in depth video comparing Wing Chun with Karate.
@ShaneTheViking 2 ай бұрын
listening to you two geek out put a smile on my face.
@LizardManFromTheEarthCore Ай бұрын
Love the exchange of knowledge. Kudos to both.
@themartialdao 6 ай бұрын
As someone coming from Wing Chun myself, I noticed some massive similarities between the Chum Kiu and Goju Ryu's Kururunfa while I was training in Okinawa. One of the coolest things I noticed was that literally all of the karate hand movements I was shown over the year I was there were contained within the Sil Lim Tao form if you knew where to look! I wonder if these similarities are because both styles came from Southern Shaolin?
@markherron3067 6 ай бұрын
Ask the Shaolin temple and they'll tell you there never was an official southern Shaolin.jessie did a really cool series visiting Fujian province in China with the fella at Monkey Steals Peach. Very much recommended if you're into "origin stories"
@themartialdao 6 ай бұрын
I've actually already seen it! Great set of videos! I'm not so much into "origin stories", but rather the history of things, so I love to theorize about this stuff. I actually wrote a research paper on the history of Karate while I was studying in Okinawa, though it's in Japanese, not English. @@markherron3067
@markherron3067 5 ай бұрын
@@achtungbaby2009 Wu Zu comes from Tai Zu Quan, and that's not a Shaolin art, it's from southern China (as far as I know).
@jamestan4165 6 ай бұрын
I loved this Jesse and would love to see you explore your karate more through more style comparisons. Fascinating stuff. I'm teaching taiji to a group of karate sensei right now and every lesson one of them yells "It's just like what we do!". Thanks for posting this (and Taiwan would be worth a trip for you I think!)
@Cicero642 22 күн бұрын
Another great video .. excellent demonstration of similar movements in Wing Chun and Karate and their underlying principles.
@RenzoCapone 5 ай бұрын
your excitement here is contagious
@MrEcomusic 6 ай бұрын
thanks Jesse for this video. It really opened up a hole universe regarding Naihanchi´s application and possible meaning
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
Very glad to hear 😇
@raydrexler5868 6 ай бұрын
Awesome collaboration guys, I trained karate for years before I started Wing Chun and JKD and I immediately saw the same similarities! I’m so happy to see that I wasn’t alone in my observation. The glee with which you born approach the subject makes me so happy. Thank you, and be safe
@ultralog5782 3 ай бұрын
Mr Enkamp .. I really love Karate and Wing Chun... You opened my mind to understand that similarities... 🙏🙏 Your knowledge about traditional karate ( from Okinawa ) is amazing....
@hafizulhakim7179 6 ай бұрын
love seeing the excitement in his eyes and explanations
@kingeditz2740 6 ай бұрын
Awesome! It’s amazing how karate takes techniques from different martial arts.
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
It really is! 🤩
@ethanbradley6922 6 ай бұрын
I've been thinking this exact thing for the last couple months!!!! This is insane to see! Thank you for doing these , it's amazing how things have changed, back in the day we would have to travel to China to find these things like the old masters, now I can do it while eating my breakfast
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
You got it!
@TheTrtmrt100 3 ай бұрын
I am not a karate man but I enjoy your videos. Like that your dissent and respectful with people you talk.
@barrygeistwhite3474 5 күн бұрын
I don't know shit about martial arts, but I love watching nerds talk to each other about their interests and this is that exact energy :D
@eagleclawja1 6 ай бұрын
Great video. This video shows how our world of martial arts is closely linked. I like Jessie's enthusiasm when he finds something similar. We all should be sharing this way.
@chriswright7781 6 ай бұрын
Great to see 2 great teachers from different systems, learning from each other and being respectful to each others styles.
@Alivefrom45 3 ай бұрын
I have watch loads of video on martial arts over the years on KZfaq. Having studied for over 21 years in many different styles, two of which being Shotokan Karate and Wing Chun. This video real jumped out at me and I can say this is one the best video i have watched around any martial arts. Well done, you got my Sub 🤜
@iisan1 Ай бұрын
the passion between these two.... man its so interesting to watch
@obiwanquixote8423 6 ай бұрын
Kevin is my favorite Wing Chun guy on KZfaq. But what I love the most is that it's just two guys who love martial arts just nerding out about talking shop.
@carl_perry 6 ай бұрын
This is just a general statement to your content and over the last four years I have truly enjoyed everything you’ve posted. I especially enjoy all the collaborations you’ve done with others in the martial arts community. Showing that one style isn’t necessarily better than any other. For that thank you. 🙏
@KARATEbyJesse 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your kind words! 🙏 Just doing what I love 😁
@greggriffiths9053 3 ай бұрын
I've been studying Tekki shodan for a while now this was a great use of bunkai I will add to what I already know thank you very much for the video.
@davidmiller4078 2 ай бұрын
Well done you two your both martail art nerds in the best sense of the word Great stuff
@Gastonicus 6 ай бұрын
Once I saw Ohtsuka the second in a Wado-Ryu seminar. His movements were not rigid karate but looked more like something that looked like Win Chun. He also always stated that there was something deep about the Naihanchi Kata.
@jty1999 6 ай бұрын
I've already begun incorporating that karate foot check you showed off with Kevin a while ago in MMA and it always catches my more Muay Thai focused peers off guard when they throw leg kicks. I'm hoping I can learn Wing Chun hand trapping for the boxing side of things but it's harder with 1) 16 oz gloves and 2) the fact that boxers are taught to always retract their hands after throwing punches. Thanks for showing us cool stuff like this Jesse.
@adriandinsmore5630 3 ай бұрын
This is such an awesome video. I love seeing sharing and discussion between styles. I train in Wing Chun but have fond memories of Okinawan Goju Ryu from my younger days. I think Jesse is a fantastic martial artist and a credit to his craft. Keep up the fantastic work.
@michaelteter 3 ай бұрын
Considering physics and mechanics of two body movements is really what it's all about. This is great content.
@onlywatching2c 6 ай бұрын
This is fascinating! The similarities they discover while comparing different methodologies. I have a black belt in a Shotokan-based karate system in the Philippines and was taught by a brilliant wing-chun stylist from the USA, who regrettably didn't have enough time to teach our small group as he was going back stateside. It is wonderful to watch Jesse Enkamp and Kevin Lee exchange notes instead of doing a pissing contest. We need more interactions like this in the martial arts.
@RoseKB22 6 ай бұрын
This is so cool! The similarities are amazing! I studied Taekwondo for about 5 or so years, but then moved to a different place and wasn't able to continue under the same instructors. My teachers teach Karate, Taekwondo, and Modern Arnis. Now that I'm in a new place I have been interested in joining another school but I can't really afford it right now. I'd love to study Wing Chun though too. I got to spar with a Wing Chun student once, and it was one of the most memorable learning experiences I've had in martial arts.
@jacobr4558 3 ай бұрын
Fascinating! A lot of biomechanics and technicalities. Im a golf nerd and the technical aspects are so much fun!
@JosephelLeon 3 ай бұрын
Outstanding video! Great comparison, thanks.
@cringusmoss9937 6 ай бұрын
This is so funny. I was just watching the video you did with sensei Seth with my daughter and we both said "that looks and sounds like wing chun!" Knowing you were teaching him self defense we thought it seemed obvious it's a different beast than sport karate. Even though many traditional kata remain the interpretations by modern practitioners are still made through a lens of either A enthusiasts or B sport practitioners. So few people who focus on self defense actually pressure test to make it useful. Seeing you learn new applications for knowledge that you have obviously spent so much time and effort to perfect is inspiring.